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BroccoliFree2354

Wait I missed it. Was it on the gacha or the Nintendo 2DS exclusivity ?!


GrimmCigarretes

It was on the Tomagachi you fool


BroccoliFree2354

No way it’s my favourite


Unaffectionate_Hat55

I thought it was in the 1 of 1 gameboy advanced will smith edition


GrimmCigarretes

Common misconception. In the Gameboy Advanced Will Smith Edition there's a cutscene that exists as foreshadowing for the actual lore heavy cutscene on the Tomagachi


Unaffectionate_Hat55

Oh I must’ve have missed that thanks


DayOlderBread16

No it’s only playable on a very obscure model of Japanese docomo phone and will contain very important lore vital to the story


Whats_Up4444

This isn't even hyperbole, this is literally Coded.


Automatic-Boot

is there anything in coded that wasn't in recoded though?


Whats_Up4444

Yeah that really badass way Roxas summons his keyblades before the fight.


Automatic-Boot

well I know they didn't put that in the movie but they did put it in the DS game. I was wondering if there was anything lost from mobile to DS


Emergency-Spite-8330

What was vital in Coded? I thought you could skip it and not miss anything.


Whats_Up4444

Namine lore and everything you needed to know for coded was shown in BbS secret ending and kh3. It was just the game to show Sora all the people he had to save. Which y'know is a single sentence long.


DayOlderBread16

True lol, also that weird Verizon v cast one


BroccoliFree2354

Oh that one yeah it checks out


DayOlderBread16

Sadly true 😂


AdrIkkan

Love the fact that I literally got one of those for the sole reason of playing coded lmfaoo


DayOlderBread16

I am trying to get one as well but it’s a pain in the ass 😂


AdrIkkan

Oh boy, I managed to get one like a year ago or so. Worst part was the fact that it could not have the app (since Coded was an app that came with the phone from factory, so any user could have uninstalled it) and also the fact that the charger came a bit damaged so I have to be very careful with it. Also google lens helped a LOT when I got the phone, wouldn't have been able to use it without it. Good luck, but honestly, don't sweat too much over it. It's cool to have something like that, specially if you are a collector or similar, but I feel like those phones don't have much life left in them, so they might end up disappearing.


DayOlderBread16

Sorry to hear that! It didn’t have the app installed on it? Also so far I haven’t run into that issue because all those obscure Japanese docomo phones I buy brand new. But the only downside is that they usually are way more expensive than just buying them used. But it’s awesome getting to play those obscure games on them, the one I have has a mobile version of the devil may cry game


AdrIkkan

Oh nono, maybe I explained it badly. The phone I bought does have Coded in it! But I had no way of knowing it for sure until it arrived, since it was used and it's common for people to uninstall apps that come with a new phone if they are not interested in them, specially back on those days. So in my experience, unless someone is selling the phone for the main reason of it having Coded installed, your best chance of getting it from Japan is to buy it understanding that it may arrive without the game in it. Also fun fact... the charger costed me almost twice the phone's price (phone was about 12€ and charger 20€, even though it was half busted)


DayOlderBread16

Ohh my bad I understand now. And yeah that’s why I buy them brand new because it’s a toss up whether it’ll still have the games installed on the used ones. Also yeah the cheapest charger was $30 on eBay sadly


BluePeriod_

No, fake fan. It was a joke. It was actually in the Kingdom Hearts Back Cover - Re:ISBN Final But Stop Inc. 2.7 manga bonus chapter.


BroccoliFree2354

Sorry. I am not worthy of the genius of kingdom hearts. I should never have stopped at kingdom hearts 2.265.pi


dodotag

It was that sim racer one


Economy_Ad8686

A cutscene from a Mobile Game that could be downloaded for a limited time back in June 9th of 2011.


dmanny64

Can't believe I missed the crucial lore that was exclusive to my local bank's proprietary software from 3:43 to 3:50 on November 6th, I mean I had my calendar set and everything


Taydenger

Watch out Sora, he's a lawyer!


SentientShamrock

Spoiler: Sora loses to the final boss of KH4 because the boss is forklift certified.


doctorpope181

Missed the PIT maneuver reaction command :/


Raetekusu

My least favorite type of Heartless.


No-Reality-2744

I am offended that I cannot feel offended by this.


SleezySn0wfal

Erm you forgot to mention how you need to access the 3.6 Drop Re:Watch secret movie trailer clip by fighting the “PP-Snatcher” heartless boss hidden under the floorboards of The Dark Land that Possibly May Become ad Phalicum


Watson_Dynamite

kingdom hearts fans when they're faced with the need to consume kingdom hearts media:


prodimfailing

what other franchises have this much bs u have to go thru to understand it fully lol, crazy thing to defend. like every other kh fan would concede that point, i can’t believe ur driding this hard


Menime59

Clearly this guy has never played Nier


Watson_Dynamite

> what other franchises have this much bs u have to go thru to understand it fully Not many, and that's what makes KH special. Kingdom Hearts is one of the last few franchises daring enough to continue a dying trend: lore that respects its fans, doesn't treat them like idiots, and rewards players daring enough to dig into it. If you can't be arsed to watch a youtube video to summarize the story, which takes absolutely minimal effort, there's a billion other videogame franchises for ADHD children that spoonfeed you absolutely everything, go play those instead. This one is for us.


prodimfailing

theres a diff between lore that rewards u to dig into it and having every game never come out on the same system twice in a row just to know the basic story at hand, as in what’s happening, not lore. nobody is complaining ab not being “spoonfed” enough, it would be good if the mobile game actually was just lore and wasnt directly tied into events going forward. ur just strawmanning what im saying, which ik is on purpose cuz it cant be hard at all to get what im saying. “thats what makes kh special”? sure but that doesnt make it a good thing. wanting something to not be as convoluted with retcons and all over the place storytelling-wise is not having adhd, but sure dude continue to think kh should not be criticized in any way, and that every single thing ab it that u could criticize is actually a good thing in disguise, lol


Watson_Dynamite

> theres a diff between lore that rewards u to dig into it and having every game never come out on the same system twice in a row just to know the basic story at hand, as in what’s happening Kingdom Hearts 2.5 came out 10 years ago, judging by how you behave you couldn't have been older than 3 years old, as such the whole franchise has been readily available for you to enjoy on Playstation 3 and 4 ever since. Every cutscene from the mobile games has been recorded and uploaded to youtube, and if you don't want to see every cutscene there are several videos summarizing the important story bits from UX, Dark Road, etc. You've had more than enough time to catch up, that argument is completely invalid and hasn't been valid for years. > nobody is complaining ab not being “spoonfed” enough, it would be good if the mobile game actually was just lore and wasnt directly tied into events going forward. if you want "lore" to be nothing but past events with no bearing on the present state of the franchise, then you don't want lore. You want something you can skip entirely guilt-free. > ur just strawmanning what im saying nope, I know exactly what you're saying, it's just a really long way of saying "I can't be arsed to play this franchise I'm supposedly a fan of, but I especially can't be arsed to look up a youtube video that explains the story and that I can watch in one sitting while eating dinner". > “thats what makes kh special”? sure but that doesnt make it a good thing disagree. > wanting something to not be as convoluted with retcons and all over the place storytelling-wise How do you know about all these supposed retcons when you don't even know the full story? There aren't nearly as many retcons as you think and many retcons are on such minute details you won't even think about it. The only really bad retcon I can think about is how KH1 treats the keyblade like a singular entity that's somehow self-aware and can choose its wielder, other than that it's really minor stuff or people not knowing how to read (which is strangely common with this fanbase) > but sure dude continue to think kh should not be criticized in any way and that every single thing ab it that u could criticize is actually a good thing in disguise let me quote you as a reply to that: "ur just strawmanning what im saying, which ik is on purpose cuz it cant be hard at all to get what im saying.". prove me wrong and quote a single instance of me saying KH "can't be criticized in any way and that every single thing ab it that u could criticize is actually a good thing in disguise", I actually -dare- you to prove that claim. Go ahead, make my day, I could use a laugh. Not every piece of media has to be for everyone, and that's okay.


peachsepal

I'm not disagreeing with you, just want to say, I hate the idea of watching summaries of stuff because I want to engage with the games and content first hand. But I also hate mobile games/gacha games. Some day I'll rectify this (or kh4 will have a little "what's the lore?" section and I'll be thankful lol)


prodimfailing

huh? kh had to fix the fact that they were convoluted by having the collections, and there are games on it u cant play. and yes, i think that it is a bad thing if i have to watch a youtube video to know exactly whats happening, as in understanding important plot points. thr lore is definitely something u should b able to skip “guilt-free” although idk y u would feel guilt from not playing a kh mobile game lol. as for retcons, xions entirr existence, ansem getting his name taken for some reason, and ur downplaying bbs’ affect on everything. retcon doesnt mean something is unexplained, its something thats unprobable given past information. it making sense within the story is the bare minimum. as for the story, ik everything except for the khux, so thats still a pretty big chunk of the kh story that i can talk ab. when u say “prove that claim” i simply mean when u said that having important plot points be spread out over every medium, thats actually a feature of it, and that its a good thing. just bc ive “had time to catch up”, it doesnt make it any less convoluted right? i simply think its not good writing


Watson_Dynamite

They had a problem, you complain, they went out of their way to fix the problem the best they could, you complain anyway. They can't win, you just want to hate. Anything less than travelling back in time and telling Tetsuya Nomura to do things differently just won't be enough for you. That's why you're unreasonable. > thr lore is definitely something u should b able to skip “guilt-free” HARD disagree, especially on an RPG franchise (you know, the genre where the story should be the focus?) Thank god KH will never deface itself to appease people like you. > retcon doesnt mean something is unexplained, its something thats unprobable given past information There is nothing about Xion that is "unprobable given past information", she just shows up earlier in the timeline and then disappears as to not conflict with what's shown later. You seem to think that showing a character in the past that doesn't appear later in the timeline somehow constitutes a retcon. By that logic every prequel ever made is a retcon. > when u say “prove that claim” i simply mean when u said that having important plot points be spread out over every medium, thats actually a feature of it, and that its a good thing. please explain in great detail how that is somehow tantamount to me saying Kingdom Hearts "can't be criticized in any way and that every single thing ab it that u could criticize is actually a good thing in disguise", again this is your claim that I'm quoting verbatim, so prove it in detail.


prodimfailing

what? when did i complain that they fixed the problem? im saying that this only partially fixed the issue, as some games arent playable and theres still things like the mobile game which are very crucial. and again, i feel that very important plot points shouldnt be delegated to mobile games and things like that, y is that so crazy to u? btw, iactually rlly love kingdom hearts, i just have opinions on how the story is handled, so its weird how u have this gatekeeping tone. plenty of rpgs dont have u going thru as much as kh requires to get the plot. there may be other media that expand lore, but not direct plot points, theres a difference. how is me saying that there should only be supplementary lore in a non mainline game somehow me saying “i dont want story” to u? it wouldnt b a problem if kh3 didnt have random points where u have to know ux to know whats going on or who someone is. as for xion, yea there is. organization 13 actually has another member that would make it 14. she was definitely inserted after the fact. the only reason theres no mention of her is bc they lost their memories of her very conveniently, thats like retcon trope #1 and for the last thing u said, i dont understand what u dont get, that was a response to u saying the story being convoluted is a good feature. dk y u asked twice now lol. i rlly dk y u wanna argue so bad, it just seems like the opinion i have isnt crazy enough for u to have this reaction


prodimfailing

lol i saw u delete it


Watson_Dynamite

probably the first thing you've read in years if I had to guess


ROTsStillHere100

Blud stayed quiet, you won king.


Watson_Dynamite

it's probably because my response was pretty long, we've already established he has issues with reading


Franco_Fernandes

It only seems dumb because you didn't play UHX2/5.1X, a Windows Phone exclusive that was only available in Malaysia for 6 months.


doctorpope181

Casuals amirite?


DayOlderBread16

Don’t give Nomura even more ideas lol


AltroGamingBros

It truly is a shame that I understand this joke...


XenoGine

They forgot the Time Dream machine 🙃.


SMITHY2109

I loved that part


doctorpope181

Truly the moment of all time


LucianLegacy

My favorite moment was when they made a whole game to explain how Mickey lost his shirt


doctorpope181

Midgame when he was still wearing his wife beater was a truly underrated aesthetic


Raetekusu

Isn't this the cutscene where Sora became a beekeeper and Donald's subtitles came back?


doctorpope181

And Goofy had a wardrobe malfunction, yes.


bedteddd

Being an OG KH fan like many here...my heart hurts because of this.


PrinklePronkle

I’m glad this fanbase actually acknowledges how batshit or even outright stupid the series can be sometimes, it’s a nice breath of fresh air. I still can’t get over the name “358/2 Days” lol


DayOlderBread16

I feel like they just pull Random names out of a hat


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

SHITAXSS was in a South African exclusive scratch and sniff sticker. No one knows what he looks like, only smells like. The cutscene was confusing but smelled fucking great though.


DayOlderBread16

He also appeared in kingdom hearts 420/69 days which was exclusive to special models of Norwegian calculators


dfj3xxx

I don't even understand what it is saying. I recognize most of the words, but not how they are being used together.


doctorpope181

That’s the joke


No-Reality-2744

That is the meme. Yes


DayOlderBread16

It’s kh4 lore obviously /s


by_gone

did anyone play that borderline unplayable Verizon exclusive mobile kingdom hearts game back in probs 2005? Heres a forum discussing it. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/924747-kingdom-hearts/43796295 Lots of important foreshadowing in that game lots of people missed. /s


Legospacememe

Apparently that was lost media lol


Even_Set_2822

Important foreshadowing? but wasn't the game considered non canon??


DayOlderBread16

It reveals who the master of masters is


Even_Set_2822

so who was it?


DayOlderBread16

I was just making a joke my apologies i forgot to put the /s


tinyspiny34

So true


DevilKing__07

That moment when Hisstas turned into a nobody took me by surprise.


Froeleveld

Sir this is a Wendy's


EWABear

0/10. Kingdom Hearts would make them the 13th, not the 15th. Obviously.


slycooper13

Did I just have a stroke? 😂


Akimoto_Riku

Funny... But this could be almost any important scene in the game T-T


Bchulo

oh no... this is talking about me😭


Pokehero96

I had a shocked reaction when this initially happened but then simple and clean started playing on the kazoo which instantly brought me to tears


doctorpope181

You’re thinking of the Otamatone version. The kazoo rendition was after the battle…


Jellybean_Pumpkin

It's a little frustrating how accurate this is. Man the lore is bloated in KH. It's so dumb! Gotta love it.


mickelrastfasterborn

I'm just going to say it. If you can't follow the plot you're dumb.


doctorpope181

Ok


DayOlderBread16

It’s probably nomuras alt account


Apprehensive-Bus2522

Longtime KH fan and I’ve come to terms with the fact that the story is a bunch of bullshit and does nothing but add more new characters, plot lines and other things that does nothing for it.


SleezySn0wfal

Oh yeah? If you’re so good with the lore, then who was the one to bring about a coup and replace the leader in Kingdom Hearts? No need to answer. John Hearts, the main protagonist did it. I answered for you, no worries 🥱


unwise_entity

consider me an idiot, then 🤯


Apprehensive-Map-53

Lol


PrinklePronkle

Ok nomura


MaxTeX60N

ok good for you pls tell me.


llliilliliillliillil

While yes, it was foreshadowed 7 games ago a the Japan only single-use-timed-exclusive app for the Panasonic FOMA P900iV in 2008 that SHITAXSS would use the HEART LIGHT DARK MEMORY MACHINE, it was steadily build towards throughout the next 6 games, especially when SHITAXSS would talk to UFXKACEF about it in Kingdom Hearts %20/2~ReFractured~ that was released on a limited capacity only in Taiwan. Like, Sikas who’s point of existence was to aid Sora in averting the ZERO REVERSE ACOPALYSPE that would’ve been set in motion when SHITAXSS would use the HEART LIGHT DARK MEMORY MACHINE and I thought it was actually really clever how they used the IRREVERBIAL MINUS DIMENSION MIRROR to counteract the effects which was also foreshadowed 22 games ago when Maleficent had a piña colada in a beach and said "the only way to counteract the HLDMM is to use the IMDM but these fools would never figure that out" after she used compromised dream data to travel back in time that actually turned out to be a dimension jump instead. Like, all you have to do is to not be a fake fan and actually pay attention to the cutscenes, then it’s really simple and straightforward.


DayOlderBread16

😂 it’s sad but funny how that actually sounds like something you’d have to do to play an obscure kingdom hearts Japanese only mobile phone game to understand the lore


Ok-Contribution5630

I got to the "Pina colada" before I realized this was all bs 💀


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Well its a lot easier now that most of the games are bundled together and you can watch everything on youtube. Around ~2006 when KH2 came out this was a lot more applicable, where not only did the US not have access to all these side games and lore, but I didn't even know they existed until years later. I would argue if you can follow the convoluted plot of this series, YOU are dumb.


X2-Intrepid-Hero

To be fair, there are a lot of important plot points and details that are only truly clarified by Nomura himself in interviews and in the Ultimanias....


OperativePiGuy

lmfao


Watson_Dynamite

this


Apprehensive-Map-53

Bruh why you get downvoted for agreeing? 😭


Watson_Dynamite

people don't like it when you say "this", some whiny virgin even made a bot that seeks out "this" posts to scold the posters


Gronodonthegreat

“I’m actually FOYGOX! When I was knocked out during kingdom hearts II, Xemnas replaced my body with a digital double…”


PikachuGamerSMTYT

I remember when I played this game on the Pocket Station as a kid (fun times)


BMatthew30

Just wait until the learn Shitaxss is actually the nobody of Sish Tas


Haisiax

See everyone talks about the lore being absurd but the funniest thing about the series to me is that so many people from the different worlds are willing to just accept that a talking dog and a talking duck just exist.


DayOlderBread16

Especially in the big hero 6 world they are all scientists yet they have no reaction to a walking and talking duck and dog with weapons


hongjoongkink

Tag ur spoilers 😔


proxiginus4

Even if you think the plot is easy enough to follow if you didn't laugh at "Heart Light Dark Memory Machine" I'm thinking lesser of you. Like the game is full of super dramatic mentions of all those things and I love the series but if you talk about it from those themes/ideas backwards it sounds nonsensical.


Spare_Reality_3311

God damn, I missed out on the guitar hero clone that gives heavy exposition to IV the same way CoM had super important points that made console players feel lost!


Ok-Contribution5630

These 3 are of the worst "non-meddlers" I've ever seen. 😂


jojory42

Kingdom hearts don’t foreshadow though, rather they seem to look back at what they done ask “did we mean anything by this” and when they realise it was just a cool, fun or random thing they work it into something pre significant. So I guess they backshadow.


DevilKing__07

Literally all the secret endings foreshadow future games


Rozwellish

It's called a retcon.


hobiwan-ken0bi

Shitaxss the 15th was my nickname in high school


wigglyboiii

Honestly, KH lore is stupid. The magic of the game is amazing, but the lore attached to it sucks


vampireguy20

That's exactly why I quit KH. Just too much "It's a surprise tool that'll help us later"(straight from the mouse's mouth) sequel bait garbage. I actually groaned so fucking hard when in KH3 Mickey "the goddamned" Mouse said "It's finally over" like *"No the fuck it's NOT, Nomura's got like ten years worth of confusing, arbitrary, asinine plotlines with samey, Corporate-ordered Disney Worlds that serve absolutely zero fucking purpose and twenty more worthless instances of Olympus Colosseum rattling around in his head as we speak, you damn **rat**"* *That's* why I quit Kingdom Hearts. It was a relationship that started out as an innocent, childhood crush that, over time, became toxic for us both.


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

You can always pretend KH3 doesnt exist like I do. Same with Dragon Ball Super, that series ended after the Cell saga and everything else is noncanon fanfic.


vampireguy20

You know what? I won't even have to pretend, because I'm done with KH anyways. It's all just been Nomura making shit up for the past few games, anyways. I don't even care who the MoM is or what's in the damn box anymore, it's probably Future Sora as the MoM and the real Heart of All Worlds or some shit in the box, who knows (Not even Nomura, he's still trying to wrap his head around it all), and who cares (Not me). And I'm glad someone else has the same mindset with how stupid Super is, the power scaling has gone completely off the rails with these straight up Gods, Angels, Alternate Timeline throwaway characters, fucking Frieza and Broly being back for like the fifth time each, *Marvel Movie Humor* and do **not** get me started on all these asinine Forms they keep pulling out of their asses and subsequently throwing away for the brand spankin' new Form they just made up: Super Saiyan God is just Kaioken, Unassisted SSJ God is just "What if Super Saiyan, but **Blue**", Trunks's SSJ Rage is JUST him being mad and in SSJ (I thought all Saiyan's get mad when fighting in SSJ, you're not special), Ultra Ego GETTHEFUCKOUTOFHERE level stupid, Orange Piccolo. That's all i'll say on that one and finally, Ultra Instinct, or "Buff White Hair Goku that just walks so we don't have to spend money on him moving too much" and *finally* finally, **BEAST FORM GOHAN LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT DEVIANT ART SHIT**.


DayOlderBread16

I feel like sometimes Nomura just gets drunk and starts writing the script


vampireguy20

"Sometimes"


DayOlderBread16

😂 true


ComicDude1234

We need better memes.


doctorpope181

Instead we’re asked which character had the best design for the 4th time this week.


DayOlderBread16

Or weird fan fiction 😂


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

b tha change u want 2 c


Waluigi02

This board desperately needs KH news. I'm getting so tired of all these low effort shitposts.


doctorpope181

Shitposts >>>> Elementary level engagement posts


Waluigi02

You say that like this isn't also elementary level.