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G37_is_numberletter

Not very realistic. You never stand down wind from r/freemagic


Thecrumpmyster

HELP THERE'S BEEN A MURDER AND IT WASN'T KARLOV MANOR


PunchSisters

You can literally smell that sub


Xenolithium

Don't know, Yu-Gi-Oh fans which I classify as anime fans, are historically worse in every possible way.


Precipice2Principium

Magic has multiple mangas so that’s like the pot calling the kettle black


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

I play both and they are equally bad. There’s honestly a bunch of overlap anyway.


FartherAwayLights

They might smell but in my experience they’re usually pretty cool people at least


ellie_i

i'm more surprised that i was surprised when i discovered that sub. this is absolutely a first world problem, but i can't remember the last time i pulled back the "free speech" curtain and it was anything but hatred. i just couldn't imagine living like that


VoltorbPinball

r/Stonetossingjuice material


thelostclone

I thought I was there for a moment when I saw this post


Kindney_Collection

Stonetoss = opinion discarded


SpectralBeekeeper

Based


AnderHolka

Oh hey, it's freemagic. Meanwhile WoTC literally making products for both sides.


Multiple_Monochrome

Go where the paycheck takes you


Ashamed-Bluebird-940

I'm a trans anime nerd, I broke conformity, also fuck Stonetoss and his fasciest alt right friends


Jam_B0ne

I read that as "I also fuck stonetoss" and was like, dang well guess that's settled


Ashamed-Bluebird-940

That's hilarious, I have no notes


blurrydad

Lmao I did too


DaperDandle

Lol no one fucks stonetoss thats why he is the way he is.


Skelehedron

Might sound dumb here, but who is that? Also as a Trans person, anyone with alt right beliefs needs to either change and grow as a person, or fuck off


Ashamed-Bluebird-940

You don't sound dumb, to be frank I'm jealous as fuck, i wish I didn't know who he is, he makes nazi supporting comics and has several anti-semetic conspiracies. He is also friends with Spencer, the guy who did a nazi salute at a Trump rally and never got condemned by Trump for it...or MTG (go fucking figure)


dbh192

Not everything you don't agree with is fascist


mcindoeman

my guy he openly supports the Nazis, it's hard to get more fascist than that...


TheTrueSpoonGod

The man is an active neonazi


Bloodshed-1307

Hans Kristian Graebner is a fascist


Maser2account2

While true, Mr. PebbleThrow is absolutely a fascist who openly supports Nazis and actively denies the holocaust.


zacyboo

True, but fascists are fascist


Ashamed-Bluebird-940

He's an open nazi, what the hell are you talking about?


nimrodfalcon

You’re right! Openly fascist little pricks like Stonetoss, however…


dedstrok32

I fucking wish that was the only reason to call him so, buddy 😭


MrBisonopolis2

This one actually is lol.


Snowy_Thompson

What is it like to have no opinions of your own outside of contrarianism?


hentailerdurden

This comic makes no fucking sense


Loken9478

The artist is a fascist


hentailerdurden

Right, and that sucks on its own. OP’s edits also make the comic completely incoherent edit: I am curious what the original comic said, but not curious enough to give traffic or ad revenue to that persons websitw


Kultrum

Probably some transphobic bs mixed with shaming people for enjoying things based on their fascist opinions... you are correct not to give them any attention


nighght

Are you guys ragebaiting? It depicts two socially outcast types of people, and the greasy transphobic weeb is clearly the villain. I fail to see how this is transphobic in any shape or form. It is just making fun of /r/freemagic types for gatekeeping something as dorky as magic the gathering. Edit: Oh, the original artist is a fascist I understand the hesitation


Loken9478

Yeah, and considering only the text is edited, it probably wasn't good to either


No-Resist1009

Fascism is quite the buzzword these days. Did you know Mussolini was vetoed by the ground council of fascism constantly and didn’t have totalitarian power?


MagnanimosDesolation

OP is from freemagic and so presumably hates LGBTQ people.


hentailerdurden

Ahhhh ya. Unfortunate for all involved


webot7

Agreed


wasaguynowitschopped

Why not? As long as nobody shits on another (for being a person not their magical abilities, I feel it's fair to DUNK on someone if they've been playing long enough to know what is going on) it should be fine-


Affectionate-Rub5176

They kinda do shit on each other a lot tho. As seen in talk surrounding old vs new artwork of Kemba.


KindMoose1499

Tig ol biddies are still there, covered by armor


YamatoIouko

I’d complain, but they’re still all-in on male fan service, and I’m like 70-30 male/female pref, so I can live without Kemba’s titties as long as I get more of Ajani’s.


KindMoose1499

Altho they missed an opportunity to have the alternate art be a catgirl


starcap

The funny thing to me is I don’t get why they are avoiding female skin below the neck on cards these days. Like are they trying to take the high road here? Because they still shamelessly use sex to promote their product. A week or two ago if you opened arena the first thing you saw was some chick with her cleavage hanging out for a link to her YouTube video or something. Half the videos I see promoted in their YouTube channel are hotties of a caliber I’ve never seen in my LGS. Their official story podcast is read by ladies with simpering valley girl accents. I mean I’m ok with that but I feel like they should own up to the fact that their promoters are shamelessly not representative of the magic community and not pretend like they are taking the high road by avoiding any suggestive women on the cards. Just pick a lane guys, any lane will do.


KindMoose1499

The difference is the promoted women are choosing themselves to dress that way, where an artwork could be implied that someone just wants to use sexy imagery to sell/"appealing to the male fantasy". At least that's how I'm trying to rationalize it, pbly more of a "we want to promote women" paired with women on the internet using their looks often to sell, while the image they want to promote in game isn't sexualised


Kultrum

No weirdos who fixated on fictional tits are shitting on each other...


Affectionate-Rub5176

Okay weirdo


meatspin_enjoyer

You are on discord and Twitter too much. Nobody gives a shit at the lgs


Affectionate-Rub5176

I'm more of a telegram 4chan type.


meatspin_enjoyer

Same thing, all full of racists and morons


EntertainmentTrick58

as long as i get to shit on grixis players im happy sharing the hobby with half of anybody


monoblackmadlad

Conclave scum


EntertainmentTrick58

fuck you leave me to my gruul business. grixis players are smelly poopie heads


monoblackmadlad

Removal+counterspelled+hand disruption+destroy all lands


Kultrum

Right... smelly poopie heads who won't let me get out my big stompy bois😋


YamatoIouko

[[Cavern of Souls]]


monoblackmadlad

[[stone rain]]


YamatoIouko

…you haven’t played much against tuned Gruul, have you?


monoblackmadlad

What do you mean?


SavageJeph

Ahh the poster is a freemagic poster. The stone toss makes sense now. And no, they aren't right in this case at all, plenty of space in this hobby for Trans people.


xXYiffMasterXx

Why are we reposting this scumbags art?


hellllllsssyeah

Probably because of reads it sincerely


TheEzekariate

Oof. r/freemagic and r/horusgalaxy? Fucking yikes. The Ezekarion does not claim OP.


CallThePal

Oh there's a wh40k freemagic thanks for sharing


Affectionate-Rub5176

Any other groups you think would be a good fit for me?


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TheEzekariate

No. Anti trans bullshit doesn’t deserve a home anywhere.


Affectionate-Rub5176

I actually often talk about my waifu Alesha.


BXNSH33

/r/ropeandstool


Affectionate-Rub5176

Lmao take my upvote.


Dan_Turell

So it's either gay or anime fan?


GrassDry2065

That's the trans flag, and there are bystanders. So you could be one of the people not involved in the conflict too


Dan_Turell

What's it about? Kinda confused, I play MTG because its an interesting game with unique interactions


zacyboo

There's conflict in the community rn. It can't really be helped, anything with a large following is going to have bigots who want to shit on minorities. If you want to stay out of it and play with the fun cards go ahead, have fun.


GrassDry2065

So there's a small group of alt right goofballs who formed a community and they are vocal about hating things in way that dogwhistles alt right points. One of their things is not liking trans people Edit to add: anime fan with body pillow is slowly moving from being coded as "awkward nerd who can't talk to girls" towards "I hate women and minorities because they're happy". That's a whole other discussion involving what some refer to as the alt right pipeline


CrumblingDragonballs

It's kind of really funny how far and close things have come to full circle: we have the far right people yelling at people for being snowflakes and being soft and nerdy to suddenly they need protection from their anime body pillows and uwu dolls Bec they are feeling encroached upon by people with differences in opinions. 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Pink_Monolith

It's becoming less socially acceptable to abuse people over their facking prohnowns and more acceptable to abuse hateful scumbags, so now they feel persecuted. Poor things.


ellie_i

tag urself i'm tumbleweed


noahtheboah36

Thought I was in freemagic for a minute.


3RR0RFi3ND

Good thing nazi’s aren’t broken clocks then. Saying they’re right even once, is once too much.


CallThePal

Man I guess it's wrong to be against animal cruelty and testing on animals, who knew


Affectionate-Rub5176

Saying that any person is never right on anything is peak zealot level crazy.


Specific_Variety_326

Well considering Stone toss is a Nazi He isn't right about anything. ever


Affectionate-Rub5176

Did you know Hitler supported animal rights?


Specific_Variety_326

Did you know that it really doesn't matter if he supported animal rights or not? It wouldn't matter if he had been saving starving children in Africa. He was not a complicated man. He was evil. Like whoopity Doo he liked dogs. Chairman Mao liked cats, Vlad the impaler liked his kids I guess. Rasputin was a ladies man and threw a really good party. Just because a person has a single positive trait does not make them good Edit to add that holy moly being on Horus Galaxy and free magic at the same time you probably do. Actually think Hitler was a good guy really


Affectionate-Rub5176

But specic, hitler was a nazi, and nAzI's ArE nEvEr RiGhT aBoUt AnYtHiNg. BTW that's how you sound.


Specific_Variety_326

You do realize that you're defending fucking Hitler just to have some sort of cheap gotcha?


Affectionate-Rub5176

You do realize even the most zealot Christian won't condemn a devil's advocate? Are you really about to be more of a zealot than them?


Specific_Variety_326

You. Are. Defending. Adolf. Fucking. Hitler. To use as an Internet gotcha. Also me the zealot? Bruh you're on free magic and Horus Galaxy prolly 2 of the most zealoutous and insane subs in this hell site


Affectionate-Rub5176

I see. Well I hope you have a good day. I'll be ending this pointless convo here.


Expanseman

To The surprise of no one, the Stonetoss reposter is a Nazi. 


Affectionate-Rub5176

I'm literally not.


ubf_blu

you literally are


Affectionate-Rub5176

Dude we've been over this. Do you remember the time I tagged you in a discussion about good woke shows?


ubf_blu

no


Affectionate-Rub5176

Want me to tag you in it again?


LuxrayLucien

Did you know you're defending hitler right now?


Affectionate-Rub5176

You do know only zealots say someone is wrong in every aspect, right?


LuxrayLucien

I never said that, only pointing out who you're defending. People can be right in aspects that don't matter, like you right now. It doesn't matter if Hitler owned an orphanange, he was directly responsible for the deaths of six million people. Do you see how one of those things makes the other insignificant?


Affectionate-Rub5176

Dude, I'm defending the fact Hitler is right on treating animals well. You by pointing that out like it's a negative is proving my point.


ellie_i

i think you're focusing on this particular point in a vacuum and they're looking at the bigger picture of the person


Affectionate-Rub5176

Yes exactly. A clock is right twice a day.


LuxrayLucien

What you're trying to do is defend posting this by saying that the point of the comic is correct even though the person is a bigot. But that argument falls apart because the comic is a misrepresentation of the situation. Two parts of the community are not trying to push each other out. One part of the community hates the other so much that they literally will not allow them to participate, and will flame them just for existing. In this sense, the comic is not a correct statement that just so happens to come from a bigot. It is a misrepresentation meant to paint bigots in a better light by trying to make it seem like both parties are equally to blame. And I think that misudnderstanding/misrepresentation is BECAUSE of who the artist is. Regardless I'm good on continuing this. You called me a zealot before, but I haven't seen you agree with anyone but yourself in any of your comments. Which means that the chance of me changing your mind are zero. Later!


Affectionate-Rub5176

I don't know what to tell you, it really looks like both hate each other mate. Both sides have their fair share of zealots.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Have a good day.


LuxrayLucien

You're correct. Also, never admitting where you're wrong is zealot level crazy.


Affectionate-Rub5176

I agree. I'm glad there's comments I've made where I admitted I was wrong.


Maser2account2

Begone, back to r/freemagic with you.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Okay. Sorry for bothering you. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. <3


Maser2account2

Honey, I was joking don't take it too serious, unless you support stonetoss, fuck that guy.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Aww thx. *Kiss*


Rumpled_NutSkin

If you know the creator of the comic strip is a Nazi, why repost it? The last thing we need as a community is to support that asshole


Affectionate-Rub5176

It's an altered picture. He didn't have it about MTG.


Rumpled_NutSkin

My point still stands. Why use this person's work if you know they're a literal Nazi?


Affectionate-Rub5176

Because I like the meme format.


LonelyDM_6724

I don't get it. Explain the joke.


nyx-weaver

I'll explain it because u/Affectionate-Rub5176 is a coward who wants to just provoke and then not take responsibility for making this sub shittier. We have two groups of people who, according to the both original artist (literal neo nazi "stonetoss") and the person who modified the comic for this meme, are worthy of derision in and of themselves: trans people and anime nerds. In order to "get" the joke, you have to feel that WotC trying to appeal to a wider audience (with nonbinary and trans characters, and anime art card treatments) is reprehensible, mockable, and something worth throwing a tantrum over and posting about daily on /r/freemagic. And that there's somehow...some conflict between having both of those groups in the fandom and playerbase? It doesn't make sense, because obviously trans people and anime nerds have been playing MtG since the 90s. But critically, to find this funny, you have to be the kind of person for whom "lol transgenders, amirite?" is like...a *hilarious joke*, on its own. *"You know...morons"*


Farabel

Slight added note: There was some conflict a while back which **roughly** was because a prominent player came out as trans and got some harassment for it by a small group, which then turned to the group getting banned from the event.


Undead_Artemia

They’re against the religion known as “woke” Or some other dumbass bullshit. It means they are too much of a coward to do so


Affectionate-Rub5176

I rather not.


TheEzekariate

Don’t want to get banned?


Affectionate-Rub5176

No. I think it's a waste of time. I can't change your mind and I doubt you can change mine.


Marsbarszs

If this comic is supposed to be a joke then why are you trying to change anyone’s mind? Just explain the shitty joke and then fuck off


Affectionate-Rub5176

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm trying to show a funny meme that certain people would understand and find funny.


Fretzy

Yeah, that's called a dogwhistle.


Affectionate-Rub5176

No, an inside joke.


Fretzy

Yeah, a dogwhistling inside joke.


Affectionate-Rub5176

There's nothing I can say that can change your mind is there?


Fretzy

"Hey man, I'm just making an inside joke to a very small group of like-minded individuals, using a comic template mare by an infamous Nazi sympathizer"


Affectionate-Rub5176

637 people isn't a small group.


DopelyWilco

Isn't this kind of a shitpost ? Saying magic players are either LGBT or some greasy anime fanboi


nyx-weaver

Not a shitpost, just shitty post. For stonetoss, the artist of this comic (and literal neo nazi), a person being transgender is a punchline in itself. There's nothing good here.


SavageJeph

It's a shitpost trying to rally other right wing magic players, that's pretty much it.


blurrydad

I don’t think the point is that they’re the only kind of magic players I think the joke is that they’re the two opposites in the community that claim it to be a space that caters to them specifically or at least want it to.


CookieSheogorath

Still promoting the website of a fascist. But cool to see that people think it's something true enough to meme about. And by that, I mean sad. I just wish the community could get along


hachitheshark

OP I think you forgot to take your schizophrenia medication, its important to take every night


Affectionate-Rub5176

Why do you think I'm a schizo?


tau_enjoyer_

Hey look, it's art by Hans Christian Graebener, noted Nazi who lives in Spring, TX.


Tantra_Charbelcher

This artist sucks unwashed incel dick. The first dialogue bubble should have been "this hobby ain't big enough for the both of us" the last panel should show the two of them standing outside an lgs with saloon swinging doors and a neon MTG sign in the window. That way the sequence builds tension until you learn in the last panel what they're fighting over and uses the art to convey information, ya know, like an artist, instead of a character randomly saying "magic the gathering". You suck at basic sequential art, bruv.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Happy Cake Day!


nanapolitain_is_lewd

Me who like both 👀


VelociraptorAHH

Fucking what


_Moontouched_

Fuck Stonetoss, fuck freemagic, and fuck you. Support trans rights


Affectionate-Rub5176

But I do support trans people. I believe they should have the same rights as everyone else.


AppropriateAgent44

“Yes the artist is a Nazi. But…” never goes anywhere good.


Skeither

Oh so THIS was the plot of OTJ all along. I get it now.


NuccioAfrikanus

Just make Anime Phyrexian’s, problem solved.


xxzyxx

pebblechucker is a dipshit, thus whatever this is trying to say is invalidated.


EymaWeeTodd

Miss me with that gay shit.


mehicanisme

We wouldn’t ❤️ hope it helps for next one so you can pick something actually funny bro


Affectionate-Rub5176

I don't think there will be a next time. Multiple people have asked me to to come here again.


Zanderfus

unrealistic smh, cant smell lack of deordorant through the screen from the seconed panel.


NicWester

Stonetoss is a literal nazi.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Yes it says as much in OP.


Ubersupersloth

I mean…yeah. The culture of those two are so openly hostile to the others’ existence that it’s very difficult, if not impossible, for them to co-exist.


Tallal2804

It's not realistic


MaximusDOTexe

Unfortunately, one of these smells a lot better and doesn't actively antagonize people for gameplay actions


GankedGoat

Maybe there would be if we had consistent and well written storylines, and Hasbro stopped humping the IP for every penny.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Agreed. Corpos are the biggest problem.


DirtyPenPalDoug

No, fuck anything stonetoss.


Grey_Dreamer

Screw stone toss. All my homies hate his sexist, racist, turbo terf and literal not even joking active neo Nazi ass.


Epicjettt31

Ew stonetoss


ianmerry

The common thing to do when repurposing this Nazi piece of shit’s comics is to change the site address to inform the viewer the original artist is a Nazi piece of shit. Just a pointer for future use of his shit art


Beginning_Orange

Is too much to ask they shoot each other?


Affectionate-Rub5176

Based


Mustelid_Queen

I don't even play magic and I understand and love this. I'm so entrenched in loser-dom that I care about the drama of fandoms I'm not in


IgneousFoliage

R/imaginarygatekeeping. Nobody is pushing straight and cis white dudes out of gaming.


Affectionate-Rub5176

You're right, they're pushing women with big breasts out by refusing to represent them. We on the other hand get a lot of hot representation.


VikingDadStream

What's wild about this.. is that if you watched the pro tour. There's a whole ass team of trans and trans allies who put up top 32 level performances Jason Ye made like 11th place Last season Ettienne was in the top 8


ihp-undeleted

"The artist is a Nazi" then I'm sure you find him good company. Go back to r/freemagic.


BannedInDay

ThE ArTiSt Is A NaZI!


Expanseman

If you know this was made by a Nazi, why are you sharing it?


Valfor17

Also, is it just me, or do you hate both people here?


Affectionate-Rub5176

Both sides have done wrong, yes. One side is just less wrong on average. I'm not going to say who tho.


Ok_Cryptographer6681

All of this is beta boy shit 🤣


NittanyScout

Fuck stone toss, all my kindred hate stonetoss


CodeRed97

You do not have to in fact hand it to the Nazi artist 🤷🏻‍♂️


Forsaken-Blood-109

Perhaps I was too hard on you, weebs.


LuxrayLucien

Well if you're gonna make me choose... the trans community has literally never bothered me and you're (that is you on the right I assume, with the pillow?) here posting your hateful trash. Nobody's bothering you by existing, you're just evil, sorry to break it to you.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Come again. Can you explain why I'm evil?


LuxrayLucien

Yeah man, I'll walk you through it real quick: so this comic is highlighting the issue in a strange light, as one of these groups just wants to exist and be represented, and the other group quite literally hates trans people so much that they cannot handle the idea of a trans person in the media they enjoy. If you hate a specific kind of person who has caused you no harm SO MUCH that you don't even wanna be reminded they exist, I consider that evil, maybe that's just me. Your "broken clock" idea is technically correct, but most people upon finding out that the creator of the comic is a nazi would simply choose to not post it, so as to not support the creative endeavors of someone with a racist, fascist ideology. Can you enjoy art and agree with ideas of a person like that? Sure. But bringing it to us, here, while plainly stating that you know this about the artist really just seems like a mixture of classic trolling and a cat bringing its owner a dead rat that they really don't want. At best you didn't know your audience and at worst you're trolling and supporting bigotry. Messing with people intentionally while spreading media that misrepresents a real, serious issue is maybe a bit dramatic to go as far as evil, but I'm gonna stand by it. Or maybe you just didn't know your audience and genuinely thought people here would love this, in which case, my bad. Everyone makes mistakes.


Affectionate-Rub5176

>At best you didn't know your audience The post seems to have the most up votes compared to any other post I've ever made. I could be wrong, haven't looked at my post history in a min. >at worst you're trolling and supporting bigotry. Messing with people intentionally while spreading media that misrepresents a real, serious issue is maybe a bit dramatic to go as far as evil, but I'm gonna stand by it. Oh I see. I don't really agree with labeling someone evil for just causing mischief.


LuxrayLucien

Strangely convenient when the person in question is yourself. "I think the thing I'm doing is just fine" Considering your opinion seems to be the only one you're taking into account, I think that's some pretty sound logic.


Affectionate-Rub5176

What's wrong with labeling myself as acting fine?


archangeldacob

ew stonetoss


King_Comic

This is why people should gatekeep their hobbies


HolyManBob

So much butthurt in the comments.


KenUsimi

*sigh* I have been part of fandoms since the beginning of social media. I’ve been through Gamergate. This discussion happens time and time again and every time the answer is the same: if you are the one who has a problem with the group, and that’s causing problems, then you need to stfu or leave. Why? It’s very simple. You are the one having a problem. If you didn’t have a problem, then there wouldn’t *be* a problem. Think of it like a DnD group. If you’re in a group, and someone starts causing problems with other people at the table over something that’s not their business, then yeah that person’s probably gonna get the boot. Apologies for the snarky tone, I’m just kinda sick of having to have these arguments and discussions every few years. Games are a safe place, created for the purpose of having fun.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Agreed. Not everything is made for everybody.


biinboise

I love political comics that are vague enough to piss off both sides.


Affectionate-Rub5176

Same


Tripudi

BASED