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Godzilla fight with ghidora was brutal compared to his fights with Kong . It looks like Big brother vs little brother. Not enough violence imo. The two biggest icons in all monster movies fight and it seems lack luster to me . Maybe cause there both portrayed as hero and no one the villain idk
Yeah not sure, I just love how slow and massive the fights look with Ghidorah and the MUTOs, even that first clip with kong. Feel like most of their other interactions look a lot faster
I agree . Godzilla got everything going for him. Bigger, stronger, more durable, more powerful and let's not forget his atomic breath. Kong got him with intelligence and agility ( even with axe and glove )but in every match up with Godzilla he still gonna be the heavy underdog.
Not at all.... we literally saw Kong going hand to hand combat without the axe against the big lizard in the first half of the city fight. And even in the Egypt fight in GXK he didnt even have the axe.
Kong got bodied in the city we can’t just look at one half of the whole fight and Kong had his other plot armor equipped for GxK
Godzilla was also toying with Kong until he got hit in the head in the axe where Godzilla overpowered him rather quickly and then let him live
I never mentioned Kong won..... was just pointing out the facts that he didnt even use the ax for the first half of the movie. You cant talk about Kong having plot armor when godzilla literally has a contract to where he cant be killed of LOL thats bigger plot armor than kong has ever gotten.
my headcanon is that despite godzilla having smaller arms they pack a wallop. like T rex arms. the evolved form wouldve been even crazier in a physical fight
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Cheak out hakaishin from Jimbo CC on youtube, that thing punches like a boxer.
One big bonus Goji has is his weight. If he throws himself at somebody with all his body mass, he will overpower them.
And his incredible thick thighs. Seriously, they are bigger than Kongs arms. He can take the most powerful punch in the entire monsterverse and he still wouldn't fall down.
I still think that Kong has one of the strongest arms or punches but Goji is just built different.
He's literally starting to get back up in that clip I wouldn't call that balance personally, and even if Kong did have better footing that still wouldn't be equivalent to Godzilla's tail, higher durability, greater weight. So yes in my opinion kongs arms are strong based on well his anatomy but thr Gman is thick as fuck which negates Kong's punch
Goji tanked the punch without using his tail iirc. I remember it sliding of the boat. Looked more like gman used only his legs. But Yeah, still way better footing and higher weight
Regarding that first clip. Kong's punch had less impact on Godzilla than the reverse. But, that doesn't say anything cuz they aren't punching the same target. I'd like to see if Godzilla can take a punch from Godzilla.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Kong is absolutely chucking scylla lmao. I really don't what to say if you think otherwise. Seems like you really, really, just don't want to give Kong an ounce of credit. What in the world is up with people who just can't let Kong have anything.
>tail is three points of contact!
Kong was on all fours
>Kong was standing up
His hands never left the deck, that's not standing up.
>it was an uppercut
We see it from the pov, it was a side swipe
>Godzilla is just stupid heavier than Kong
Godzilla weighed 99k tons, Kong weighed 90k.
That's 10%
>Godzilla put his weight in
Godzilla threw a standing hook
>Kong didn't
Bro, we see Kong rear back and step into that punch.
>in the novel...
You're prolly lieing
I think you meant to reply to someone but also i think we shouldn’t be using the boat fight as proof of Godzilla having stronger arms, the Hong Kong fight has a quick moment of Godzilla blocking Kong’s arm with his own
Edit: and also other feats that prove Godzilla is physically stronger but you get my points
Godzilla is physically stronger, Godzilla has lifted muto prime who weighs 35% more than himself whiled weakened and in his 2014 state and swung Ghidorah who's 141,000+ tons while he himself is 99,000+ tons, to top it all off in the Tasman sea battle Kong grabs Godzilla to bite him with both arms and Godzilla shoves him off with one.
We actually saw Kong briefly overpower one of Godzilla’s arms when he jumped on his back. Godzilla knocking Kong over isn’t a simple result of having greater arm strength. He is much heavier, had his powerful legs and tail for balance, and when he hit Kong, he put his entire bodyweight into the attack.
Kong is 90,000 tons, Godzilla is 99,000 tons (weight you see at the start of gvk was flawed info and rushed, said by Adam Wingard himself ) so while Godzilla is still quite a bit heavier the difference isn't that huge.
Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't Kong hold back goji's arms underwater like a minute later? And that was him at 50% strength due to the sedatives.
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Feel like a lot of people forget this. Kong has him mostly immobilized then just headbutts the absolute fuck outa him so bad kong had enough time to climb out of the water and collect himself before goji could recover from it
novelisation. kong’s blood carries so much oxygen that even with sedative once he woke he was basically back to normal. also i think he was already awake for days before godzilla attacked
None of these actually show Godzilla using just his arms. He's using his bodyweight. If you want to see who's arms are stronger, you need them to compete in doing curls, tri extensions, or just arm wrestle.
This is only because Wingard was directing lol. If they kept Dougherty (as they shouldve) Godzilla still would’ve won in the end, but Kong would’ve gotten a win that amounted to more than just pissing Godzilla off, and would’ve had some attributes that posed trouble for Godzilla.
Kong should have stronger arms. And overall, be a more worthy foe than he was since that movie was… you know… what we had been building to. Godzilla couldn’t lose, especially after what happened in KOTM, but it should’ve been more than a toying with. Not really a versus movie.
Alright, go ahead and downvote me.
Don't worry I support, you can tell that they established Godzilla as one of the most powerful character in their verse.
Which would leave some really good villain sequences where they had to work their way instead of the heroes, which I feel like the concept itself haven't been touched upon yet.
Godzilla was the most powerful and needed to win the movie but Kong deserved to have some kind of X-Factor that made him a worthy adversary for the movie that basically ended phase 1 of the cinematic universe – not "Godzilla's fucking with him but isnt the monkey lovable?"
Whether it was superior strength or use of a more advanced brain, he needed something that made him an actual threat to Godzilla.
Again, doesn't feel like a proper versus movie.
My head cannon: Kong has stronger arms, but Godzilla has a dramatically stronger core & more weight to throw around. If they were just standing swinging arms Kong would have an advantage because of the extra length, but since they use their whole body to hit Godzilla has the advantage.
Also if we want to bring a bit of realism into our giant Monkey/ Lizard fight, Kong would probably have more fast twitch muscles to help with his hand control & agility. Godzilla likely has more slow twitch muscles which helps with his bitch slaps & throwing strength.
I still think godzilla is more durable and kong has more raw strength as it should be cuz he is a giant Gorilla and normal size gorilla are pretty soild against normal size lizard, apart from the radioactive thing
Godzilla literally threw Kong halfway across Hong Kong with his mouth, manhandled him, ripped him apart, suplexed him, tackled him. Every time they fight, Kong has to rely on his speed, agility, intelligence, weapons and dexterity not strength, because Godzilla outdoes him there.
Also Kong is not a real Gorilla and Godzilla is not a real lizard. And if you haven't noticed, most lizards are tiny compared to a gorilla, no yeah, no shit gorillas would do pretty solid against "normal sized" lizards.
That’s kinda just not true, Kong’s shown multiple times to be able to keep up with Godzilla in combat. In the water or in Hong Kong. Godzilla did overwhelm Kong in there third round but that was after his shoulder was dislocated. Godzilla is stronger then Kong but not by leaps and bounds
Like I said, Kong uses his speed, agility, intelligence and weapons to keep up. Of course his shoulder was discolated, Godzilla bit on it, spun him around like a frizzbee and threw him across a city. But until he obtained the BEAST glove, the gap is still hupe. Kong can get a few good hits on Goji but Goji can manhandle him. It's like Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago.
The whole purpose of that glove was to give Kong a fighting chance against threats of Godzilla's calibre. Godzilla could take everything Kong could throw at him and keep coming back but Kong can't once Goji fights tooth and nail. That's why he needed an equalizer,
Not talking about his speed or agility, specifically his strengt. if Godzilla is so much stronger the Kong the he should have totn his throat out in the water easily
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the beast glove only increased his strength striking, that’s about it. the fact that goji only started beating down on king after his shoulder got dislocated kinda says otherwise
um no, it was to make him stronger. That’s about it idk were you got Godzilla lvl opponents from
" if Godzilla is so much stronger the Kong the he should have totn his throat out in the water easily" - I mean he did, He wrapped him around and dragged him to the depths of the sea. I can name a few instances where Kong gets some good hits in but the tide completely turns once Godzilla hits back once or twice.
"the fact that goji only started beating down on king after his shoulder got dislocated kinda says otherwise" - No shit. And how did you think he managed to do that? By being weaker than Kong? If someone gets hurt in a fight, does that mean it's cheating?
"um no, it was to make him stronger. That’s about it idk were you got Godzilla lvl opponents from" - Duh, it's to make him stronger. Why did he need to be stronger? Because he nearly got killed by Godzilla and Mecha Godzilla. Godzilla level threats include monsters like Shimo or Ghidorah, those who are way out of his league with some power boost or a speacial weapon.
He kinda didnt, he should have killed right there and then with no problem
Of course not, but it also doesn’t mean the person resciving blow is massively weaker then the other(though I guess that’s a bit variable)
Did you have any actual statments for it being specifically made to kill Godzilla lvl opponents?
He was about to kill him, if Apex and Monarch didn't set off depth charges.
I'm not saying Kong is weak or anything, he's mandhandled skull crawlers and warbats before.
The movie didn't exactly say it directly but the dialogue between Bernie and Andrews stated that they made the glove as concept after they realized from the Hong Kong fight that there are threats Kong couldn't handle on his own (He nearly died to both Godzilla and MechaGodzilla). Basically, the glove is meant to be an equalizer, to put him up to their level. I gotta find that clip again.
Only when he tried to drown him. If Godzilla was so much stronger then him he should have done Kong worse then he did ghidorah underwater
I know, but your saying Godzilla can easily manhandle Kong which isn’t the case
They specifically said mechagodzilla who ragdolled goji(granted both Kong and Godzilla were tired)
He's in water, he can't swim, he can't breath. Like, the first thing he did after pushing Godzilla away was immediately swim up for air and a ship to climb on. Ghidorah did not have any of that. If there was no ship to anchor himself with, Godzilla would've done the same thing with Kong.
Also, the level of hatred Godzilla has for Ghidorah is deepr than any titan. He sees Kong as competition, a rival. Ghidorah is someone he absolutely detest with every fibre of his being.
He did manhandled him, Thrice. Threw him halfway across a body of water in Hong Kong, broke his shoulder and tossed him across Hong Kong with his mouth and suplexed him in Egypt. In every physical bout they've had, Kong has never lifted or thrown around Godzilla the same way goji can.
And guess what MechaGodzilla was design to kill?
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I think it’s less that Godzilla has stronger arms and more that he has more weight to swing around. Boxers have strong punches, but have you seen fat people slap fight? It’s like bears ffs
sure lol but a feat i think fly over people is that a sedated kong holds back godzilla ( killing intent ) in the water, where godzilla has the advantage. Personally i think that says a lot, you can say godzilla is stronger in those terms but imo they’re equal
The reason for Kong falling and not Godzilla is just simple anatomy its been explained thousands of times now.... Godzilla literally has a tail to for balance that supports him where Kong doesn't, take away that tail and I assure u godzilla would've fell backwards during the boat scene.
Both fan-bases have their own realizations:
1. Godzilla fans have come to terms that Kong is a more emotionally characterized protagonist with is a cool backstory.
2. Kong fans have realized that Godzilla is better in every single category in terms of fighting. Size, IQ, resiliency, endurance, battle IQ, punching power, speed....the whole thing.
I don't really think Godzilla has a higher IQ. Kong literally knows sign language. Godzilla's a f****** brutal murder lizard. As he should be. All that other stuff though. Yeah. being an unstoppable force of nature is kind of his whole metaphor, one does not simply stop Godzilla
I mean, Kong definitely has stronger arms. It's just that Godzilla is tougher and more durable. An attack that Godzilla could shrug off would knock Kong down flat.
Kong could pretty much do the same to everyone here with Ghidorah being the only one excluded. He ripped the Kraken in half a titan thats double and possible three times his size. The Ion dragon and Female Muto are both smaller than Kong and weaker. Scylla is actually taller than Kong standing at a height of 341ft but surpassingly light she weighs 20,000 tons
Novelization states that Kong knocked Godzilla over on his heels. Kong was in the process of getting up and Godzilla is more stabilized and has more solid footing because he’s bigger and has a tail for balance.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Godzilla has Larger legs and was more stabilized when he stood unlike Kong, that's why his punch felt weaker. So yeah maybe use your lil mind sometimes 🥺🥺🥺
The implication that Kong also couldn't do these things🤭
The only realy Godzilla didn't go flying is cause he's so heavy, everything else Godzilla does in this video Kong could too.
Need to see Kong & Goji recreate this now that they're on better terms: 
- Kong! You sonunava bitch! -
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- What’s the matter? Hollow Earth got you pushing too many pencils?
- Make it easy on yourself, Goji.
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That scene of him Slamming one of Ghidorah’s heads is so badass
Wish he done Kong like that
Would’ve been sweet to see
Godzilla fight with ghidora was brutal compared to his fights with Kong . It looks like Big brother vs little brother. Not enough violence imo. The two biggest icons in all monster movies fight and it seems lack luster to me . Maybe cause there both portrayed as hero and no one the villain idk
Yeah not sure, I just love how slow and massive the fights look with Ghidorah and the MUTOs, even that first clip with kong. Feel like most of their other interactions look a lot faster
Ghidorah fight Godzilla is still best fight in Monsterverse imo
Loved it just wish he had a more visceral death instead of some thermonuclear pulses taking him out
I agree should had Godzilla rip his heads off and one head left he blast it right off lol 😆
Lol anything a little more rewarding!
Its because the power is so far apart if Godzilla wants Kong dead he is dead.
I agree . Godzilla got everything going for him. Bigger, stronger, more durable, more powerful and let's not forget his atomic breath. Kong got him with intelligence and agility ( even with axe and glove )but in every match up with Godzilla he still gonna be the heavy underdog.
Kong's axe is physical plot armor in the movie. Without that its GG right away
Not at all.... we literally saw Kong going hand to hand combat without the axe against the big lizard in the first half of the city fight. And even in the Egypt fight in GXK he didnt even have the axe.
Kong got bodied in the city we can’t just look at one half of the whole fight and Kong had his other plot armor equipped for GxK Godzilla was also toying with Kong until he got hit in the head in the axe where Godzilla overpowered him rather quickly and then let him live
I never mentioned Kong won..... was just pointing out the facts that he didnt even use the ax for the first half of the movie. You cant talk about Kong having plot armor when godzilla literally has a contract to where he cant be killed of LOL thats bigger plot armor than kong has ever gotten.
He does have a solid pimp slap.
He is Pimp named Zilla
Godzilla sleeper build
my headcanon is that despite godzilla having smaller arms they pack a wallop. like T rex arms. the evolved form wouldve been even crazier in a physical fight
It's because he's built like a bear His arms are short but THICK and all the muscles form that huge hump on his shoulders/back.
Yeah and his fighting stily is based of THAT of a bear...and komodo dragons too why not
I wish Shin Godzilla had longer arms
i want shin godzilla with giant, lanky arms
Skar Shin
Skar king is the evil version of lanky kong from donkey king
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i like the stubby shin arms, enhances the horrific complexion
There is something menacing about those hands.
I don’t think they move at all the whole movie. Like they’re stuck in the grabby claw pose facing up towards the sky.
Reaching for the heavens….. a death he so wishes to grasp…
People forget that Godzilla literally ripped the wing off of that dragon
He pulled it right out of the socket like it was an SHMA ball joint lol
Idk why i read that as “stay at home ball joint”
Since when is SH MonsterArts became Stay at Home???
They should have included the suplex.
My main focus is Godzilla's arms which you can see in each clip
Still a solid montage!
Godzilla did a suplex?!
He suplexed Kong off one of the pyramids!
Ah yes, Goji's most powerful move
One big bonus Goji has is his weight. If he throws himself at somebody with all his body mass, he will overpower them. And his incredible thick thighs. Seriously, they are bigger than Kongs arms. He can take the most powerful punch in the entire monsterverse and he still wouldn't fall down. I still think that Kong has one of the strongest arms or punches but Goji is just built different.
Weight distribution is also a factor. Godzilla has a more solid base than Kong, meaning he can tank hits and be more likely to remain standing.
He also has a tail which offers a ton of stability.
Beast glove uppercut caused him to fall over……
that has less to do with weight and more with force transference than anything
And a single slap from gvk godzilla (weaker) caused kong to fall over
Kong is top-heavy. That's less of a feat.
On a rocking aircraft carrier with little space for both getting slapped while getting up. Your logic makes no sense l.
Godzilla stronger period
Fiiiiine I’ll do a rewatch of The Monsterverse….again
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Godzilla has a counter balance the size of a skyscraper it's called a tail
Kong was literally standing on all fours. He too, had enough footing for balance.
He's literally starting to get back up in that clip I wouldn't call that balance personally, and even if Kong did have better footing that still wouldn't be equivalent to Godzilla's tail, higher durability, greater weight. So yes in my opinion kongs arms are strong based on well his anatomy but thr Gman is thick as fuck which negates Kong's punch
Goji tanked the punch without using his tail iirc. I remember it sliding of the boat. Looked more like gman used only his legs. But Yeah, still way better footing and higher weight
The difference is Kong was also getting up off his hands when Godzilla hit him, he would’ve been off balance because of that.
Kong also threw his entire body with the punch. That’s why he fell down. Godzilla just turned and slapped him.
Godzilla's may be stronger, but he has a harder time using them with how comparatively shorter they are.
Regarding that first clip. Kong's punch had less impact on Godzilla than the reverse. But, that doesn't say anything cuz they aren't punching the same target. I'd like to see if Godzilla can take a punch from Godzilla.
I will say Godzilla has 3 points of contact with the ground and is much heavier than Kong, so sending him flying would be extremely difficult.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
10/10 times godzilla wins
Kong ain't chucking the crab like that lmao, also evidence shows otherwise in the movies
Kong is absolutely chucking scylla lmao. I really don't what to say if you think otherwise. Seems like you really, really, just don't want to give Kong an ounce of credit. What in the world is up with people who just can't let Kong have anything.
>tail is three points of contact! Kong was on all fours >Kong was standing up His hands never left the deck, that's not standing up. >it was an uppercut We see it from the pov, it was a side swipe >Godzilla is just stupid heavier than Kong Godzilla weighed 99k tons, Kong weighed 90k. That's 10% >Godzilla put his weight in Godzilla threw a standing hook >Kong didn't Bro, we see Kong rear back and step into that punch. >in the novel... You're prolly lieing
I think you meant to reply to someone but also i think we shouldn’t be using the boat fight as proof of Godzilla having stronger arms, the Hong Kong fight has a quick moment of Godzilla blocking Kong’s arm with his own Edit: and also other feats that prove Godzilla is physically stronger but you get my points
Kong has stronger arms but Godzilla is able to put way more weight into his attacks
It's physics, Godzilla has that big tail for counter weight, more torque. Kong is all arms
Godzilla is physically stronger, Godzilla has lifted muto prime who weighs 35% more than himself whiled weakened and in his 2014 state and swung Ghidorah who's 141,000+ tons while he himself is 99,000+ tons, to top it all off in the Tasman sea battle Kong grabs Godzilla to bite him with both arms and Godzilla shoves him off with one.
Guess evidence can't beat fanboyism 🤷
Bro didn’t watch the video
Did you ?
Yup
Doesnt seem so.
Did so
Then you need glasses mate.
Disagree
Fair enough.
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We actually saw Kong briefly overpower one of Godzilla’s arms when he jumped on his back. Godzilla knocking Kong over isn’t a simple result of having greater arm strength. He is much heavier, had his powerful legs and tail for balance, and when he hit Kong, he put his entire bodyweight into the attack.
Kong is 90,000 tons, Godzilla is 99,000 tons (weight you see at the start of gvk was flawed info and rushed, said by Adam Wingard himself ) so while Godzilla is still quite a bit heavier the difference isn't that huge.
Godzilla literally has a third leg
And also a tail😏
Hes not 'King of Monsters' for nothing
Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't Kong hold back goji's arms underwater like a minute later? And that was him at 50% strength due to the sedatives. https://preview.redd.it/pu2i49yahayc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=211f105f076057b970a25f15484e6715975b82ce Sorry, this was the best image I could find of what I was referring to.
Feel like a lot of people forget this. Kong has him mostly immobilized then just headbutts the absolute fuck outa him so bad kong had enough time to climb out of the water and collect himself before goji could recover from it
not taking a side just thought u should know the sedative thing was debunked a while back
How
novelisation. kong’s blood carries so much oxygen that even with sedative once he woke he was basically back to normal. also i think he was already awake for days before godzilla attacked
The sedation thing was debunked but you are right, this strength feat is ignored pretty regularly
Could I pls get a source of where the sedation was debunked?
Here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/Monsterverse/comments/1cheoay/in_the_novel/
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None of these actually show Godzilla using just his arms. He's using his bodyweight. If you want to see who's arms are stronger, you need them to compete in doing curls, tri extensions, or just arm wrestle.
Agreed. While Kong definitely has the advantage in reach and dexterity, Godzilla takes it in terms of sheer strength.
Godzilla with the strongman build.
my ears are bleeding
People tend to forget godzilla literally almost knocked kong off the boat in the air
This is only because Wingard was directing lol. If they kept Dougherty (as they shouldve) Godzilla still would’ve won in the end, but Kong would’ve gotten a win that amounted to more than just pissing Godzilla off, and would’ve had some attributes that posed trouble for Godzilla. Kong should have stronger arms. And overall, be a more worthy foe than he was since that movie was… you know… what we had been building to. Godzilla couldn’t lose, especially after what happened in KOTM, but it should’ve been more than a toying with. Not really a versus movie. Alright, go ahead and downvote me.
Don't worry I support, you can tell that they established Godzilla as one of the most powerful character in their verse. Which would leave some really good villain sequences where they had to work their way instead of the heroes, which I feel like the concept itself haven't been touched upon yet.
Godzilla was the most powerful and needed to win the movie but Kong deserved to have some kind of X-Factor that made him a worthy adversary for the movie that basically ended phase 1 of the cinematic universe – not "Godzilla's fucking with him but isnt the monkey lovable?" Whether it was superior strength or use of a more advanced brain, he needed something that made him an actual threat to Godzilla. Again, doesn't feel like a proper versus movie.
Confuses arm strength with mass and momentum.
What a title 💀 Godzilla is just way heavier and has a giant tail to keep him balance. Kong has stronger arms. Brute strength goes to Godzilla though
I agree. Also his new form gave him longer and muscular arms so his arms are even more stronger now.
My head cannon: Kong has stronger arms, but Godzilla has a dramatically stronger core & more weight to throw around. If they were just standing swinging arms Kong would have an advantage because of the extra length, but since they use their whole body to hit Godzilla has the advantage. Also if we want to bring a bit of realism into our giant Monkey/ Lizard fight, Kong would probably have more fast twitch muscles to help with his hand control & agility. Godzilla likely has more slow twitch muscles which helps with his bitch slaps & throwing strength.
I still think godzilla is more durable and kong has more raw strength as it should be cuz he is a giant Gorilla and normal size gorilla are pretty soild against normal size lizard, apart from the radioactive thing
Monsterverse Godzilla has a bear like build. A Gorilla vs a Grizzly basically.
Godzilla literally threw Kong halfway across Hong Kong with his mouth, manhandled him, ripped him apart, suplexed him, tackled him. Every time they fight, Kong has to rely on his speed, agility, intelligence, weapons and dexterity not strength, because Godzilla outdoes him there. Also Kong is not a real Gorilla and Godzilla is not a real lizard. And if you haven't noticed, most lizards are tiny compared to a gorilla, no yeah, no shit gorillas would do pretty solid against "normal sized" lizards.
I agree ☝️ with this ! Godzilla just built different.
Don’t forget he literally threw Kong off his shoulders while Kong was beating on him
That’s kinda just not true, Kong’s shown multiple times to be able to keep up with Godzilla in combat. In the water or in Hong Kong. Godzilla did overwhelm Kong in there third round but that was after his shoulder was dislocated. Godzilla is stronger then Kong but not by leaps and bounds
Like I said, Kong uses his speed, agility, intelligence and weapons to keep up. Of course his shoulder was discolated, Godzilla bit on it, spun him around like a frizzbee and threw him across a city. But until he obtained the BEAST glove, the gap is still hupe. Kong can get a few good hits on Goji but Goji can manhandle him. It's like Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago. The whole purpose of that glove was to give Kong a fighting chance against threats of Godzilla's calibre. Godzilla could take everything Kong could throw at him and keep coming back but Kong can't once Goji fights tooth and nail. That's why he needed an equalizer,
Not talking about his speed or agility, specifically his strengt. if Godzilla is so much stronger the Kong the he should have totn his throat out in the water easily [https://preview.redd.it/godzilla-has-stronger-arms-cope-v0-pu2i49yahayc1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=758f84da857aa9f37a79faf407071e9b67d37955](https://preview.redd.it/godzilla-has-stronger-arms-cope-v0-pu2i49yahayc1.jpeg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=758f84da857aa9f37a79faf407071e9b67d37955) the beast glove only increased his strength striking, that’s about it. the fact that goji only started beating down on king after his shoulder got dislocated kinda says otherwise um no, it was to make him stronger. That’s about it idk were you got Godzilla lvl opponents from
" if Godzilla is so much stronger the Kong the he should have totn his throat out in the water easily" - I mean he did, He wrapped him around and dragged him to the depths of the sea. I can name a few instances where Kong gets some good hits in but the tide completely turns once Godzilla hits back once or twice. "the fact that goji only started beating down on king after his shoulder got dislocated kinda says otherwise" - No shit. And how did you think he managed to do that? By being weaker than Kong? If someone gets hurt in a fight, does that mean it's cheating? "um no, it was to make him stronger. That’s about it idk were you got Godzilla lvl opponents from" - Duh, it's to make him stronger. Why did he need to be stronger? Because he nearly got killed by Godzilla and Mecha Godzilla. Godzilla level threats include monsters like Shimo or Ghidorah, those who are way out of his league with some power boost or a speacial weapon.
He kinda didnt, he should have killed right there and then with no problem Of course not, but it also doesn’t mean the person resciving blow is massively weaker then the other(though I guess that’s a bit variable) Did you have any actual statments for it being specifically made to kill Godzilla lvl opponents?
He was about to kill him, if Apex and Monarch didn't set off depth charges. I'm not saying Kong is weak or anything, he's mandhandled skull crawlers and warbats before. The movie didn't exactly say it directly but the dialogue between Bernie and Andrews stated that they made the glove as concept after they realized from the Hong Kong fight that there are threats Kong couldn't handle on his own (He nearly died to both Godzilla and MechaGodzilla). Basically, the glove is meant to be an equalizer, to put him up to their level. I gotta find that clip again.
Only when he tried to drown him. If Godzilla was so much stronger then him he should have done Kong worse then he did ghidorah underwater I know, but your saying Godzilla can easily manhandle Kong which isn’t the case They specifically said mechagodzilla who ragdolled goji(granted both Kong and Godzilla were tired)
He's in water, he can't swim, he can't breath. Like, the first thing he did after pushing Godzilla away was immediately swim up for air and a ship to climb on. Ghidorah did not have any of that. If there was no ship to anchor himself with, Godzilla would've done the same thing with Kong. Also, the level of hatred Godzilla has for Ghidorah is deepr than any titan. He sees Kong as competition, a rival. Ghidorah is someone he absolutely detest with every fibre of his being. He did manhandled him, Thrice. Threw him halfway across a body of water in Hong Kong, broke his shoulder and tossed him across Hong Kong with his mouth and suplexed him in Egypt. In every physical bout they've had, Kong has never lifted or thrown around Godzilla the same way goji can. And guess what MechaGodzilla was design to kill?
https://preview.redd.it/6fiqk3q1s8yc1.png?width=784&format=png&auto=webp&s=e811a5af633cfe51e74a10bc196bef83cea63c6f My honest reaction to hearing whatever the hell that music was
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are we just showing clips of godzilla using his arms 😭
Kong should have stronger arms. But doesn't really matter
i think they should do a man in MV goji suit getting a MMA gold belt
It always makes me chuckle everytime I see him yeeting the Ion dragon
I like to think Goji fights like a sumo wrestler. Hes throwing every bit of that weight behind every strike
Godzilla literally does have stronger arms for lifting slamming or throwing things while Kong has better striking strength.
Truly speaking, I don't much care either way. But you gotta stick with the facts and feats.
What about the part where he swings ghidorah across Boston into a building.
Didn't Kong say hitting Godzilla was like hitting a mountain?
Quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard
What song is that?
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Small arms Many muscle Powerful af
Honestly while I don’t think his arms are weak I see it more ass him using the upper body strength and weight rather the strength in his arms.
konv dodged
gxk kong would like a word
Isn't the Godzilla that fought Kong on the ship hinted at being mechagodzilla?
Kong is stronger
I love in 2014 when Godzilla chokeholds and slams that muto to go bite and attack it. Some WWE SHIT!
Where was that last scene from? The one with Goji throwing a creature into the crystal wall?
Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, and it's not a crystal wall. It's a hollow earth portal
I think it’s less that Godzilla has stronger arms and more that he has more weight to swing around. Boxers have strong punches, but have you seen fat people slap fight? It’s like bears ffs
https://preview.redd.it/3kumd6o4tlyc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2c21d3a47f980b3ba0b63fab32892d3e85b7364 You forgetting about this?
sure lol but a feat i think fly over people is that a sedated kong holds back godzilla ( killing intent ) in the water, where godzilla has the advantage. Personally i think that says a lot, you can say godzilla is stronger in those terms but imo they’re equal
The reason for Kong falling and not Godzilla is just simple anatomy its been explained thousands of times now.... Godzilla literally has a tail to for balance that supports him where Kong doesn't, take away that tail and I assure u godzilla would've fell backwards during the boat scene.
What’s the song
Kong literally has stronger arms tho. His arms are anatomically longer and larger than Godzilla’s. This literally isn’t a debate.
Kong should have had his own series. He seems too underpowered for hanging with Godzilla and his villains.
Not to mention he takes Kong to Suplex City in the new one
Kong has longer arms Godzilla is better
The only defense Kong has is plot armor.
Good thing he is the main character
Both fan-bases have their own realizations: 1. Godzilla fans have come to terms that Kong is a more emotionally characterized protagonist with is a cool backstory. 2. Kong fans have realized that Godzilla is better in every single category in terms of fighting. Size, IQ, resiliency, endurance, battle IQ, punching power, speed....the whole thing.
I don't really think Godzilla has a higher IQ. Kong literally knows sign language. Godzilla's a f****** brutal murder lizard. As he should be. All that other stuff though. Yeah. being an unstoppable force of nature is kind of his whole metaphor, one does not simply stop Godzilla
Godzilla is like a Komodo dragon 🐉 when he show up you know he about tear 💩 up!
Godzilla does not have a higher iq what are you on about, speak for yourself fanboy
Yeah for the monsterverse
I want to see Kong prepare a special trap to counter Godzilla if ever need
none of that proves godzilla’s arms r stronger lol
A better example for thr Kong punch would be in Hong Kong when Kong jumps a little and really gives him a good one
I mean, Kong definitely has stronger arms. It's just that Godzilla is tougher and more durable. An attack that Godzilla could shrug off would knock Kong down flat.
Mass and momentum doesn’t equate to arm strength nice try
Kong could pretty much do the same to everyone here with Ghidorah being the only one excluded. He ripped the Kraken in half a titan thats double and possible three times his size. The Ion dragon and Female Muto are both smaller than Kong and weaker. Scylla is actually taller than Kong standing at a height of 341ft but surpassingly light she weighs 20,000 tons
Novelization states that Kong knocked Godzilla over on his heels. Kong was in the process of getting up and Godzilla is more stabilized and has more solid footing because he’s bigger and has a tail for balance.
>standing up No
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Yeah nah. Kong absolutely has stronger arms lmao. But their centers of gravity are so different. Godzilla's bodyweight is concentrated mostly in his lower half, whereas Kong is all top half. That makes it easy to knock Kong down and tough to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla absolutely wins the fight 9/10 times but anyone who thinks he has stronger arms needs help lmao.
Mary sue
Godzilla has Larger legs and was more stabilized when he stood unlike Kong, that's why his punch felt weaker. So yeah maybe use your lil mind sometimes 🥺🥺🥺
So basically kong is in fact weaker
Cope~🥺🥺🥺
What else did j except from godzilla fans smh
As a Godzilla fan, I’ll even admit as far as arm strength Kong wins…… Godzilla wins leg day though lol
The implication that Kong also couldn't do these things🤭 The only realy Godzilla didn't go flying is cause he's so heavy, everything else Godzilla does in this video Kong could too.
I can’t think because of this shit music
I think that hit against kong was more like kong trying to get away from godzillas claws
Forgive me but that slap in GvK means nothing.
This is why I hate godzilla & kong fans, mainly godzilla fans bc of comp godzilla.