Keep right unless to pass is the rule but often on the Causeway, there are usually to many cars for that to work. Technically you and everyone in front of you **are trying to pass**, making the passing lane longer than the travel lane even if you are going faster. So idiots are going to get inpatient and try to get 1 car ahead for no reason. This happens every day.
Just move and let them tailgate the car in front of you, and move behind them and laugh at them.
Speaking from experience, just sit in the right lane and enjoy your coffee with your 23 minute commute. People drive like idiots over the bridge, not worth the extra 4 minutes you'll save risking a wreck.
Also speaking from experience, going over 72-73 on the causeway is asking for a speeding ticket.
I don’t even slow down at crossovers after years of doing the commute, but I try not to go over 71. People going 80 is an exception amongst regular commuters, I think. Most people keep it between 65-72 mph.
If you're in the left lane and someone is trying to pass you while you're not trying to pass the car in front of you, you should move over and let them pass you. Let them crowd the person in front of you, it saves you from having to do it.
Yeah I don't think OP did anything wrong explicitly, but if it were me, I would just say fuck it, move over for a minute, let the asshole pass, then go on with my drive in whatever lane makes sense now that they're in front of me and hassling some other driver.
> Should I be constantly moving in and out of the lanes when I’m trying to go faster than both lanes to allow the tailgaters to do their thing.
At the variance between the left lane speed and right lane we are talking about here (63mph v. 71mpg), the difference in time over the causeway is about 2 minutes and 36 seconds.
I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about what to do when I want to go faster than traffic in the left lane while keeping a reasonable distance. The "Left lane is for passing" people always ignore that if you are going 71 and the cars to your right are going 63 you are constantly passing the cars to your right. But there's no way I'm hanging out for 20 minutes in front of drivers flashing their headlights at me and driving dangerously close to my bumper to save 150 seconds of time.
If there’s nowhere for them to go, then there’s nowhere for them to go. If there’s ample room ahead of you, might as well get over and let them run up on someone else. Since they think they’re the problem solver of the slow guy at the front of the line.
There is no etiquette when driving in Louisiana, just be safe and don’t endanger yourself or others.
I cruise 70 and stay in whichever lane is open and away from everyone- yes 70 is over the limit, but sfw?! I keep 2.5 car lengths between myself and the person ahead, and yeah the crazies squeeze in there because saving 30 seconds on their drive is imperative to them. I’m fine being in the right until I get behind someone going 55 then I overtake and continue in which lane is best suited for my speed.
I learned this literally when I got a speeding ticket in college driving from LSU to New Orleans for a hair appointment. My dad calculated the time I would have saved driving at my speed of 80 instead of a safer 74 and it was like a few minutes lol.
Is the etiquette to defer to drivers impairing your life and breaking the law by driving 77 on the causeway or being in the left lane driving safely, is a study in how humans view the world. Impede someone who is dangerous is bad. Causing a delay of 2 minutes over 20 plus minutes is bad. Funny how that changes in a grocery where you have to interact with each other.
Agreed, I drive fast but never stay in the left lane. Just move left if I need to pass then go back. I’ve found that staying in the long line of cars in the left lane I end up going slower somehow.
The left lane should be used exclusively for passing. If someone is behind you and you’re in the left lane, get over when space allows. As a daily commuter, I wish this was enforced by the causeway police. Merely announcing it on the signs at crossovers obviously isn’t effective.
> Two drivers today didn’t like that. They were flashing their lights at me and getting right on my bumper trying to move me.
Two things here:
1) if two different people were flashing their lights at you for the same thing it’s safe to say you’re more at fault than not.
2) just get over bruh. The world, and especially the road is full of psychos. Like legitimately crazy people that won’t hesitate to put your life at risk or deliberately cause harm to you over road rage. You’re gonna bore the fish at the bottom of the pontchartrain by going on and on about etiquette, speed limits, being morally correct, traffic rules, and all sorts of other things while you drown.
Driving is small ego time. Just move, smile, keep it pushin. I promise it’s better for you too. No reason to be so worked up ya needed to come post a rant thread over someone wanting to pass on the causeway.
You’re getting some shit here, but as someone who commutes 3hr round trip by interstate every day, I know better than to move right to let someone pass unless it’s clear that I won’t have to slow down to do so, otherwise you get stuck going 5mph slower than you want to so someone else can go 2mph faster than you were going.
^ This, it’s quite simple really, you drive in the right lane, pass on the left, then get back over to the right. You do not drive consistently in the left lane, regardless of speed. As DadBodMoney stated, that’s the law.
This is what he described in the OP.
But if someone ahead insists on cruising in the left lane then no one can pass, and everyone just stacks up waiting to get ahead.
Agreed, but the answer to the question posed in the OP is yes, they should love to the right, let the jackass tailgaters deal with the jackass slow moving left laner, then proceed as normal once both sets of jackasses sort themselves out. No hate on the OP, sounds like they actually know how left and right lanes are supposed to work (so they’re basically a unicorn) but sometimes it’s best to just get over, slow down, let’s jackasses be jackasses then get back to normal.
The speed limit (by consensus) is 65 in the right lane and 73 in the left. You must be confusing the causeway with I-10 where the speed limits are 65 in the right lane and 82 in the left. If you do the math, the difference in arrival times between 77 and 71 for a 40 mile trip is 3 minutes. Suggest you go with the flow and chill.
It's not a question of etiquette so much as it is a question of law. Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing. However, there is this thing called a speed limit, and there is no etiquette that trumps the speed limit. If you are already over the speed limit, even if it's just 1 mph, no car behind you has a right to "bully" you into altering your course. No motorist can reasonably expect you to drive over the speed limit just to satisfy their desire to go faster, even if you're in the left lane. Traffic laws trump traffic "etiquette" 100% of the time. That said, I try to stay out of the left lane whenever I can, unless I am using it to pass.
For sure, that is the law. And no car shall exceed the speed limit, that is also the law. So in practical terms, what you end up with is a right lane populated with cars who prefer to travel under the speed limit (but at or above the speed minimum) and cars who wish to pass those cars in the left lane. But exceeding the speed limit is against state law, even by 1 mph.
You are not the police and you should only worry about law you are breaking yourself. You traveling in the passing lane at the speed limit is breaking the law regardless of the car behind you is going to speed to pass you.
I know I'm not the police, this is Reddit and I'm not worrying about anything. Right lane is for cruising, left lane is for passing, and no speed over the speed limit is legal, regardless of the lane. And fwiw, no speed under the speed minimum is legal either.
I'm not sure what the argument is then. You were under the impression that keep right except to pass is not a law. Now that you understand that it is, all is good
Understood it all along. It's been a long time since I've travelled the causeway, but I believe the speed limit is 65 on it, correct me if I'm wrong. But if you prefer to drive 58, that's ok too. Cars that wanna pass you can use the left lane to do so, just as long as they don't hit 66. I believe the OP threw out numbers like 71 and 77, which are illegal themselves. So it seems we have one group of lawbreakers (those who wanna cruise in the left lane) in conflict with another group of lawbreakers (those who wanna go over 65), and there exists no "etiquette" for such a conflict.
Keep right expect to pass applies even if everyone is speeding. There is no fine print after it that says "unless everyone is speeding then you do not have to keep right".
Like I said, worry about laws you are breaking yourself.
> You were under the impression that keep right except to pass is not a law.
I’m constantly impressed but how eager everyone is to argue on Reddit, to the point where they will blatantly lie about the post they’re responding to so they feel right when responding in an argumentative tone.
The first line of their first post is:
>It’s not a question of etiquette so much as it is a question of law. Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing.
But I mean, here we are. Both of y’all saying the same thing, and arguing about it. That’s Reddit nowadays I guess.
>Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing. However, there is this thing called a speed limit, and there is no etiquette that trumps the speed limit.
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>Traffic laws trump traffic "etiquette" 100% of the time.
I mean I guess it depends on how you read it, but It seemed pretty cleared to me that he implied keeping right is an etiquette but speed limit is a law. If he understand that both are laws, the word etiquette should have never came up.
Argue argue argue argue argue lol.
Bruh there’s only so many ways one can interpret “it’s a matter of law”. But sure, if you read that and concluded “this person is not aware the law says the thing they’re saying it says” then that’s certainly an opinion you can hold.
I drive opposite commute (south to north am)
Cruise at 65 and seldom have to get out of cruise (2-3 x per trip)
Weirdly I did have someone flash this morning (hasn’t happened in months)
I take the left exit towards madisonville so I had gotta over (no one was close when I got over, then boom, there he was
I didn’t move over just to let him zoom by - I’m left turning, I’m in the correct lane to do that
I’m in my 50s and don’t play dumb driver games anymore…unless someone is super agro in an F250 - my right leg does not work so well under those conditions
often the right lane becomes a secret that Errbody is afraid to use … I wanna pass you and get away from you on the road 100% of the time … get in where ya fit in or nah?
Okay so, here’s how I think this should work in theory, and it’s also why the system is broken.
The speed LIMIT is 65. So in theory, people in the right lane should be going any speed up to 65. That may mean they go 58, 62, whatever, up to 65.
If a faster driver (going 65 let’s say) in the right lane comes up behind a slower driver in the right lane, they should get in the left lane and pass that slower driver by going no more than 65 even in the left lane. It is, after all, the speed limit, and not “just the right lane speed limit.”
However nobody does this and that’s why the system is broken.
The system for setting speed limits is antiquated and incredibly imprecise. Also the method for changing those limits is cumbersome and overburdened. That's why the system is broken.
But the way you describe lane usage is perfect if a rational speed limit were to be used.
Keep right unless to pass is the rule but often on the Causeway, there are usually to many cars for that to work. Technically you and everyone in front of you **are trying to pass**, making the passing lane longer than the travel lane even if you are going faster. So idiots are going to get inpatient and try to get 1 car ahead for no reason. This happens every day. Just move and let them tailgate the car in front of you, and move behind them and laugh at them.
Let's hope it doesn't reach "inpatient" status.
Speaking from experience, just sit in the right lane and enjoy your coffee with your 23 minute commute. People drive like idiots over the bridge, not worth the extra 4 minutes you'll save risking a wreck. Also speaking from experience, going over 72-73 on the causeway is asking for a speeding ticket.
Yep can vouch for this too sadly. They don’t play on the causeway.
Yep. Those tickets aren’t cheap either!
77 on the causeway is pretty crunchy dude
Risky business. Causeway police are not people I'd mess with.
Luckily they are spaced out and we know where they are. People get speeding tickets on the Causeway because they don’t pay attention.
Yeah 77 is asking for a ticket
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I think most people pop cruise control on 71-72 and slow to 67 by crossovers
I don’t even slow down at crossovers after years of doing the commute, but I try not to go over 71. People going 80 is an exception amongst regular commuters, I think. Most people keep it between 65-72 mph.
If you're in the left lane and someone is trying to pass you while you're not trying to pass the car in front of you, you should move over and let them pass you. Let them crowd the person in front of you, it saves you from having to do it.
Yeah I don't think OP did anything wrong explicitly, but if it were me, I would just say fuck it, move over for a minute, let the asshole pass, then go on with my drive in whatever lane makes sense now that they're in front of me and hassling some other driver.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve done this and just been like “Take it buddy, it’s yours.”
> Should I be constantly moving in and out of the lanes when I’m trying to go faster than both lanes to allow the tailgaters to do their thing. At the variance between the left lane speed and right lane we are talking about here (63mph v. 71mpg), the difference in time over the causeway is about 2 minutes and 36 seconds. I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about what to do when I want to go faster than traffic in the left lane while keeping a reasonable distance. The "Left lane is for passing" people always ignore that if you are going 71 and the cars to your right are going 63 you are constantly passing the cars to your right. But there's no way I'm hanging out for 20 minutes in front of drivers flashing their headlights at me and driving dangerously close to my bumper to save 150 seconds of time.
If there’s nowhere for them to go, then there’s nowhere for them to go. If there’s ample room ahead of you, might as well get over and let them run up on someone else. Since they think they’re the problem solver of the slow guy at the front of the line.
This is my general approach.
There is no etiquette when driving in Louisiana, just be safe and don’t endanger yourself or others. I cruise 70 and stay in whichever lane is open and away from everyone- yes 70 is over the limit, but sfw?! I keep 2.5 car lengths between myself and the person ahead, and yeah the crazies squeeze in there because saving 30 seconds on their drive is imperative to them. I’m fine being in the right until I get behind someone going 55 then I overtake and continue in which lane is best suited for my speed.
Slow down. What's the rush? Trying to save 5 minutes?
I learned this literally when I got a speeding ticket in college driving from LSU to New Orleans for a hair appointment. My dad calculated the time I would have saved driving at my speed of 80 instead of a safer 74 and it was like a few minutes lol.
That's a great story, thanks!
You should start by not going 77 on the causeway.
Is the etiquette to defer to drivers impairing your life and breaking the law by driving 77 on the causeway or being in the left lane driving safely, is a study in how humans view the world. Impede someone who is dangerous is bad. Causing a delay of 2 minutes over 20 plus minutes is bad. Funny how that changes in a grocery where you have to interact with each other.
The left lane is for passing.
Agreed, I drive fast but never stay in the left lane. Just move left if I need to pass then go back. I’ve found that staying in the long line of cars in the left lane I end up going slower somehow.
Left lane is for passing, not for driving, end of story it’s that easy
The left lane should be used exclusively for passing. If someone is behind you and you’re in the left lane, get over when space allows. As a daily commuter, I wish this was enforced by the causeway police. Merely announcing it on the signs at crossovers obviously isn’t effective.
> Two drivers today didn’t like that. They were flashing their lights at me and getting right on my bumper trying to move me. Two things here: 1) if two different people were flashing their lights at you for the same thing it’s safe to say you’re more at fault than not. 2) just get over bruh. The world, and especially the road is full of psychos. Like legitimately crazy people that won’t hesitate to put your life at risk or deliberately cause harm to you over road rage. You’re gonna bore the fish at the bottom of the pontchartrain by going on and on about etiquette, speed limits, being morally correct, traffic rules, and all sorts of other things while you drown. Driving is small ego time. Just move, smile, keep it pushin. I promise it’s better for you too. No reason to be so worked up ya needed to come post a rant thread over someone wanting to pass on the causeway.
You’re getting some shit here, but as someone who commutes 3hr round trip by interstate every day, I know better than to move right to let someone pass unless it’s clear that I won’t have to slow down to do so, otherwise you get stuck going 5mph slower than you want to so someone else can go 2mph faster than you were going.
I’d never ever rush on the causeway. I do not play.
Yes! Left lane is for passing! Period! It’s the law.
^ This, it’s quite simple really, you drive in the right lane, pass on the left, then get back over to the right. You do not drive consistently in the left lane, regardless of speed. As DadBodMoney stated, that’s the law.
This is what he described in the OP. But if someone ahead insists on cruising in the left lane then no one can pass, and everyone just stacks up waiting to get ahead.
Agreed, but the answer to the question posed in the OP is yes, they should love to the right, let the jackass tailgaters deal with the jackass slow moving left laner, then proceed as normal once both sets of jackasses sort themselves out. No hate on the OP, sounds like they actually know how left and right lanes are supposed to work (so they’re basically a unicorn) but sometimes it’s best to just get over, slow down, let’s jackasses be jackasses then get back to normal.
The speed limit (by consensus) is 65 in the right lane and 73 in the left. You must be confusing the causeway with I-10 where the speed limits are 65 in the right lane and 82 in the left. If you do the math, the difference in arrival times between 77 and 71 for a 40 mile trip is 3 minutes. Suggest you go with the flow and chill.
I dunno. Three minutes is time to get coffee or a snack. Maybe even pee. That's not insignificant
People who tailgate and high-beam eventually move slow left-laners over. So, I tend to let them.
It's not a question of etiquette so much as it is a question of law. Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing. However, there is this thing called a speed limit, and there is no etiquette that trumps the speed limit. If you are already over the speed limit, even if it's just 1 mph, no car behind you has a right to "bully" you into altering your course. No motorist can reasonably expect you to drive over the speed limit just to satisfy their desire to go faster, even if you're in the left lane. Traffic laws trump traffic "etiquette" 100% of the time. That said, I try to stay out of the left lane whenever I can, unless I am using it to pass.
Keep right except to pass is a state law, not etiquette.
He said he was constantly passing and wanting to go faster than the cars in front of him. This is exactly what the left lane is for.
You really think the guy flashing his lights plans to ever get into the right lane? Not a chance
For sure, that is the law. And no car shall exceed the speed limit, that is also the law. So in practical terms, what you end up with is a right lane populated with cars who prefer to travel under the speed limit (but at or above the speed minimum) and cars who wish to pass those cars in the left lane. But exceeding the speed limit is against state law, even by 1 mph.
You are not the police and you should only worry about law you are breaking yourself. You traveling in the passing lane at the speed limit is breaking the law regardless of the car behind you is going to speed to pass you.
I know I'm not the police, this is Reddit and I'm not worrying about anything. Right lane is for cruising, left lane is for passing, and no speed over the speed limit is legal, regardless of the lane. And fwiw, no speed under the speed minimum is legal either.
I'm not sure what the argument is then. You were under the impression that keep right except to pass is not a law. Now that you understand that it is, all is good
Understood it all along. It's been a long time since I've travelled the causeway, but I believe the speed limit is 65 on it, correct me if I'm wrong. But if you prefer to drive 58, that's ok too. Cars that wanna pass you can use the left lane to do so, just as long as they don't hit 66. I believe the OP threw out numbers like 71 and 77, which are illegal themselves. So it seems we have one group of lawbreakers (those who wanna cruise in the left lane) in conflict with another group of lawbreakers (those who wanna go over 65), and there exists no "etiquette" for such a conflict.
Keep right expect to pass applies even if everyone is speeding. There is no fine print after it that says "unless everyone is speeding then you do not have to keep right". Like I said, worry about laws you are breaking yourself.
Yeah people who have this mindset tend to be dangerous on the road. Leave the policing up to the police.
True, leave the policing up to the police. That includes lane usage.
> You were under the impression that keep right except to pass is not a law. I’m constantly impressed but how eager everyone is to argue on Reddit, to the point where they will blatantly lie about the post they’re responding to so they feel right when responding in an argumentative tone. The first line of their first post is: >It’s not a question of etiquette so much as it is a question of law. Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing. But I mean, here we are. Both of y’all saying the same thing, and arguing about it. That’s Reddit nowadays I guess.
>Right lane is for slower traffic and left lane is for passing. However, there is this thing called a speed limit, and there is no etiquette that trumps the speed limit. > >Traffic laws trump traffic "etiquette" 100% of the time. I mean I guess it depends on how you read it, but It seemed pretty cleared to me that he implied keeping right is an etiquette but speed limit is a law. If he understand that both are laws, the word etiquette should have never came up.
Argue argue argue argue argue lol. Bruh there’s only so many ways one can interpret “it’s a matter of law”. But sure, if you read that and concluded “this person is not aware the law says the thing they’re saying it says” then that’s certainly an opinion you can hold.
I drive opposite commute (south to north am) Cruise at 65 and seldom have to get out of cruise (2-3 x per trip) Weirdly I did have someone flash this morning (hasn’t happened in months) I take the left exit towards madisonville so I had gotta over (no one was close when I got over, then boom, there he was I didn’t move over just to let him zoom by - I’m left turning, I’m in the correct lane to do that I’m in my 50s and don’t play dumb driver games anymore…unless someone is super agro in an F250 - my right leg does not work so well under those conditions
You’re supposed to stay in the right lane except to pass.
Driving 101. This post explains why so many people seem completely clueless on the interstate
There is no etiquette on the causeway. Just don’t kill yourself or others
often the right lane becomes a secret that Errbody is afraid to use … I wanna pass you and get away from you on the road 100% of the time … get in where ya fit in or nah?
Here’s the thing. 77 is speeding and illegal.
Okay so, here’s how I think this should work in theory, and it’s also why the system is broken. The speed LIMIT is 65. So in theory, people in the right lane should be going any speed up to 65. That may mean they go 58, 62, whatever, up to 65. If a faster driver (going 65 let’s say) in the right lane comes up behind a slower driver in the right lane, they should get in the left lane and pass that slower driver by going no more than 65 even in the left lane. It is, after all, the speed limit, and not “just the right lane speed limit.” However nobody does this and that’s why the system is broken.
The system for setting speed limits is antiquated and incredibly imprecise. Also the method for changing those limits is cumbersome and overburdened. That's why the system is broken. But the way you describe lane usage is perfect if a rational speed limit were to be used.
Just go slower to enrage them even more is my rule of thumb.
i think theres enough rage on the streets without doing something like this.
To be fair, you're deflecting rage from other targets, so it's possibly a wash at worst.