To follow up, things can be not organic but be safe also.
I hate this idea that organic is good and nonorganic is bad. Not saying that was your point (in fact I think you were saying the opposite) just wanted to say it in my words lol
In this context, that’s not what organic refers to and you know that. Pointing out something related to organic chemistry makes zero sense here. Like many words, organic has more than one definitions.
Let your landlord know that the tenants are spraying unknown, possibly toxic substances.
And ask landlord to find out what it is because you are worried about your safety and your dog's safety.
I would be careful when going up the chain for stuff like this.
It is standard for lawncare companies to broadcast spray dicamba and 2-4D on lawns twice a year as part of their service package.
The neighbor is spot spraying. If the landlord decides her tenants are complaining about "unknown substances" they may well hire a lawncare company instead.
Now you have a professional company spraying the entire property with chemicals that are probably even worse, because you didn't like seeing the neighbor spot spray.
We really have to be careful and knowledgeable about these practices, instead of a blanket judgement of "all chemicals bad." It could set up an even worse situation that is now invisible to everyone because its "professionals."
Even though I don't like herbicides it's important to understand everything in context.
Not sure, but definitely figure it out. When we were renting, our landlords son would spray roundup all over the place. Two cats and our dog all got cancer. People who say it's safe are full of shit.
Bayer also made Zyklon B during World War II.
seems like making Roundup is just sticking with their pattern of making horrific choices and being on the wrong side of history.
And let’s not forget how deadly salt is when returned to its elemental state of Sodium and Chorine. Di-Hydrogen oxide is 100% natural and “organic”. If drink too much and you are dead as what happened in Sacramento California when contestants for a radio station were told who ever could drink the most amount of water in an hour would win a X-box. The woman who won, was dead within a day from water intoxication.
Round up is kinda necessary for taking out a lot of invasives.
It would be impossible to take care of honeysuckle or Japanese knotweed without it.
I think the real ecological damage comes from farmers spraying gallons on gallons killing millions of acres of bugs
Yes but when it comes to invasives like knotweed and bamboo people should be painting roundup/glyphosate onto stems, not spraying where it can move around
Roundup is safe enough *when used correctly*. The problem is that almost nobody can be bothered to wear PPE and apply it at the proper rate.
edit: "safe enough" = "as safe as any other toxic substance commonly used in agriculture"
Yeah, I did my masters in public health thesis on roundup and lymphoma specifically, the data are all really poor. Based on my research, I don’t think it causes cancer in people who use it around the house, but it *might* in commercial applicators who get covered in the stuff - the data just isn’t there yet. Regardless, obviously fuck Monsanto and if families of cancer victims can get money out of those assholes that’s great, but I don’t think glyphosate needs to be taken off the shelves at Lowe’s.
I love your take. I have the same idea (the chances of it being as directly linked to cancer as some think is low but fuck Monsanto and other large companies so get what you can from them)
People love to make this "lol redditors" comment and yet in most farming / gardening / homesteading subs the notion that it's safe if used correctly is almost always at the top.
It's really disturbing to see that not only is it not being decommissioned from agricultural and professional lawncare use, but now it's also being marketed on TV for direct home use as a lazy lawncare alternative. As if cancer rates aren't already high enough.
All of the gardening subs have people recommending it. And when I say what I have here, I get downvoted to oblivion and told "naw it's really safe".
With three dead pets and one more that might end up the same way including my wife and I, then yeah I have strong feelings about it.
Not in dogs at least. And it's not like cancer in dogs is uncommon:
https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/petcare/cancer-pets
But there absolutely are studies that show links to cancer, *in agricultural workers*. But these commenters never give a fuck about them, it's never about improving labor conditions, or cracking down on the companies exposing their workers to those conditions, or dismantling the immigration laws that enable the exploitation of undocumented workers. They genuinely believe the real problem is the neighbor spraying dandelions. It's all about MY yard and MY health and MY pets and anyone who disagrees literally killed my dog!
Some actual studies, since no one else in the thread has any:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10937404.2012.632358
https://factor.niehs.nih.gov/2020/7/papers/kidney-cancer
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8431399/#B21-cancers-13-04477
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8525621/
The last one doesnt help. It's broad (includes all pesticides, majority being insecticides) and isn't specific to roundup.
I didn't look at the rest, just chose one at random to see
Maybe there is one like that and I’ve just not heard of it, but several of the “pet safe” weed killers I’ve seen just mean they aren’t fatal but they can still cause issues like skin irritation. And most of them still say keep your pet away for 24 hours. People use vinegar (or straight acetic acid) and salt as common natural weed killers, but in high enough concentrations to kill weeds, they can burn your dogs skin so your dog should be kept away for a good time after. Also the “pet safe” weed killers I’ve seen are actually just all-plant killers and will kill all the grass. I’m very confused what could possibly be natural/organic and not kill the grass as well.
Tell them you mentioned their weed killer to a friend and they want to know what it is so they can get it. Could they find out for you so you can tell your friend. Because I, your new internet friend, want to know what I could use on my driveway.
I may have found what they were using and it's probably harmless when dried.
Organic, brownish and kills dandelions might be *"Captain Jack's™ Lawnweed Brew"*, with a folksy name and a label assuring you that it's "Derived from Iron, which occurs in nature" to make you feel better about buying it.
[https://extension.umd.edu/resource/iron-based-herbicides](https://extension.umd.edu/resource/iron-based-herbicides)
>iron (Fe) is bound to a chelating agent (such as HEDTA or (hydroxyethylenediaminetriacetic acid) that keeps it soluble and readily available for plant uptake. And the excess iron kills the plants.
[https://bonide.com/product/captain-jacks-lawnweed-brew-conc/#tab-product\_labels](https://bonide.com/product/captain-jacks-lawnweed-brew-conc/#tab-product_labels)
And the MSDS
[https://files.plytix.com/api/v1.1/file/public\_files/pim/private/assets/43/37/8d/5e/5e8d3743202d9eba64d3af60/texts/52/af/5c/60/605caf5256c98b0d2a020239/sds2611.pdf](https://files.plytix.com/api/v1.1/file/public_files/pim/private/assets/43/37/8d/5e/5e8d3743202d9eba64d3af60/texts/52/af/5c/60/605caf5256c98b0d2a020239/sds2611.pdf)
This was my hunch, based on the brown color, but I've used it under a different brand name. The one I used is considered acceptable for organic use (*meaning organic growing standards, not carbon-based chemistry). I honestly didn't find it to work well at all. 30% vinegar knocked weeds back, but dandelions seemed to come back.
I’d ask for clarification on the name of the product and research from there. If you are worried about it maybe you could compromise with them by you taking over weed maintenance and using a diluted vinegar or whatever you are comfortable with. Hope it works out, neighbors are important but can be tricky.
You can get a cheap weed torch & fry the dandelions. Your neighbors might have fun doing that.
By the way, neither dandelions or honeybees are native to the Americas. Ground bees like Mason bees & bumblebees are native & are far better pollinators.
Doesn’t matter if it’s produced at a chemical plant from oil residues or in a shed from plant material - poison is poisoneous.
If they dislike the dandelions just pull them up.
I bought this last year and I am amazed at how well it works. It takes a few tries to figure it out, but I can’t believe I’d never seen or heard of one prior
https://grampasweeder.com/products/grampas-weeder
One thing it could be is Fiesta, which is an iron-based broadleaf weed killer that specifically targets only a few plant types and is supposedly safe for animals and bees etc… (supposedly!) It’s a dark rusty red/brown color
There was a man in my old neighborhood that claimed the round up he was spraying wasn’t round up. I confronted him, while videotaping the whole thing, told him I am asthmatic, and his poison was causing me medical issues (which was true). I also told him I have no compunction about bout suing him if I got cancer. He laughed and said “good luck proving that”. I said “I don’t need to prove it, I just need to drag a lawsuit put long enough to bankrupt you.”
He never used it again.
Not sure what would be dark brown color. As far as organic is concerned there are acetic acids that are considered organic that ‘burn’ the foliage of weeds to help prevent photosynthesis. It isn’t a systemic like round up so the plant might still push out new growth. The product is sprayed on plants repeatedly until the plant runs out of carbohydrates.
I’d still want to know exactly what it is. That’s fair
I have used a product called Captain Jack’s Dead Weed Brew. This is rated for use in organic gardening. The active ingredients are caprylic acid and capric acid. Both caprylic acid and capric acid are found naturally in coconut milk as well as milk of some mammals. Caprylic acid is even taken as a dietary supplement, but you’ll have to look that up yourself.
Among the uses for caprylic and capric acids is as an algaecide, moss killer and herbicide. The herbicide product is very concentrated and when sprayed on vegetation it will kill any foliage that it contacts. However, it is not systemic and has a short term effect, so it does not accumulate in the environment and cause havoc.
To use it properly one will need to use the correct PPE because it will cause eye and skin irritation if it makes contact. Likewise it would be harmful for dogs or cats or other animals coming into direct exposure. For harm to occur, it would require immediate, direct exposure. Once it dries it degrades very quickly, so residual harm is extremely unlikely.
Personally I have entirely eliminated my lawn over the past couple of decades, and I found the Dead Weed Brew to be useful in some certain limited applications. One area I found it very useful was a rocky zone that was difficult to weed manually.
Anyway if this is what your neighbors are using, it’s not too worrisome. Just be sure to keep your dogs out of it when it is freshly applied.
It is possible; a company by the name of Sunday has a dandelion killer that is nutrient based. It is based on the principle that if they have too much of one nutrient in particular, the plant dies. For most Weed style plans it's a nutrient that makes the grass thrive. I think it is Iron, but I could be wrong and do not want to take the time to look it up at present.
It's unlikely an over the counter herbicide that is only being used as a spot spraying will be toxic.
Most lawncare companies BROADCAST spray the *entire* lawn *twice a year* with dicamba and 2-4D. I'm not saying I like it, but just for perspective, that is the standard for most lawncare companies. I think it's lucky that he is spot spraying instead of doing this extremely common practice of 2x a season broadcast spray, where they legally have to put signs up that says to keep dogs off the lawn. I wouldn't worry about it as long as you keep your dogs off his lawn for enough hours for it to dry.
Oye I hate sprays. My town and their dandelion "control program". Spraying poison everywhere close to my property after a asked them not to and I have cancer. Hate it!
Who bunch of things that will kill a dog are organic. You need to find the name of the product. He shouldn’t be spraying something if he doesn’t know the name.
Plenty of organic ways to kill weeds. Your neighbor is likely telling the truth. Even if they used toxic stuff the OTC weed killers are safe once dry. Just keep the dog off it until dry or a few hours after.
There is not much evidence stating otherwise.
Farmig family here..
Brown... Thats one of 2 chemicals, par3 and curtail there are other brands (killed for example) but the actual drug is the same.
Describe the smell... Solvent like? Made you question if it was safe to breath?
It could be. Depends on the actual product he's using. Organics are non selective burndown products. If he's not spot spraying, he should also be killing his grass. Most Organics are sold in small spray bottle sizes, not things you fill a backpack with. Ask to see the label. If he sayings it's a recipe he cooked up or got off the internet, you need to let your state's office of pesticides know as it's probably illegal in your state.
I would make them an offer: “I have a proposal, I will take out the dandelions by hand if you will agree not to spray. How about a 30 day trial and we evaluate it again at the end of that time?”
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Things can be organic and still toxic. Tobacco juice is organic.
Cyanide is organic
To follow up, things can be not organic but be safe also. I hate this idea that organic is good and nonorganic is bad. Not saying that was your point (in fact I think you were saying the opposite) just wanted to say it in my words lol
r/YourPointButMadeAbsolutelyClearSoA5YearOldCouldUnderstandIt
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And in a chemical sense, plastic is organic.
Dry cleaning chemicals are organic. Organic chemistry is the chemistry of **carbon-containing compounds**.
>Organic chemistry is the chemistry of **carbon-containing compounds**. Dad?
Right and peppers are fruit. But when you order a fruit salad you don’t want peppers in it. The meaning of a word is the way it’s used.
Did you really think I was defending Monsanto? k
In this context, that’s not what organic refers to and you know that. Pointing out something related to organic chemistry makes zero sense here. Like many words, organic has more than one definitions.
Chocolate is organic and toxic
Many many things
Let your landlord know that the tenants are spraying unknown, possibly toxic substances. And ask landlord to find out what it is because you are worried about your safety and your dog's safety.
This is probably the best approach.
I would be careful when going up the chain for stuff like this. It is standard for lawncare companies to broadcast spray dicamba and 2-4D on lawns twice a year as part of their service package. The neighbor is spot spraying. If the landlord decides her tenants are complaining about "unknown substances" they may well hire a lawncare company instead. Now you have a professional company spraying the entire property with chemicals that are probably even worse, because you didn't like seeing the neighbor spot spray. We really have to be careful and knowledgeable about these practices, instead of a blanket judgement of "all chemicals bad." It could set up an even worse situation that is now invisible to everyone because its "professionals." Even though I don't like herbicides it's important to understand everything in context.
Mention that you talked with your brother who is a lawyer for maximum effect.
'Can I see the packaging to to check?'
Not really your right to see it unfortunately. Plus he could just show you some random package. Get the landlord to ask.
This is it
Lots of natural stuff is still toxic to people or animals. I'm not sure about this particular dandelion killer.
Not sure, but definitely figure it out. When we were renting, our landlords son would spray roundup all over the place. Two cats and our dog all got cancer. People who say it's safe are full of shit.
I can't believe Roundup is still for sale, but what's even more unbelievable is that Bayer bought Monsanto
Bayer also made Zyklon B during World War II. seems like making Roundup is just sticking with their pattern of making horrific choices and being on the wrong side of history.
Zyklon B is completely organic.
Oh yes, and it’s even partially derived from delicious healthy sugar beets
And let’s not forget how deadly salt is when returned to its elemental state of Sodium and Chorine. Di-Hydrogen oxide is 100% natural and “organic”. If drink too much and you are dead as what happened in Sacramento California when contestants for a radio station were told who ever could drink the most amount of water in an hour would win a X-box. The woman who won, was dead within a day from water intoxication.
Don’t forget heroin
Bayer experimented on Jews during the holocaust. You can read the letters.
Round up is kinda necessary for taking out a lot of invasives. It would be impossible to take care of honeysuckle or Japanese knotweed without it. I think the real ecological damage comes from farmers spraying gallons on gallons killing millions of acres of bugs
Yes but when it comes to invasives like knotweed and bamboo people should be painting roundup/glyphosate onto stems, not spraying where it can move around
If you notice now the Roundup in stores has different active ingredients no longer contains glyphosate
Where are you from? I am looking at a jug of roundup I bought this season and there is most definitely glyphosate in it.
Roundup is safe enough *when used correctly*. The problem is that almost nobody can be bothered to wear PPE and apply it at the proper rate. edit: "safe enough" = "as safe as any other toxic substance commonly used in agriculture"
Yeah, I did my masters in public health thesis on roundup and lymphoma specifically, the data are all really poor. Based on my research, I don’t think it causes cancer in people who use it around the house, but it *might* in commercial applicators who get covered in the stuff - the data just isn’t there yet. Regardless, obviously fuck Monsanto and if families of cancer victims can get money out of those assholes that’s great, but I don’t think glyphosate needs to be taken off the shelves at Lowe’s.
I love your take. I have the same idea (the chances of it being as directly linked to cancer as some think is low but fuck Monsanto and other large companies so get what you can from them)
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People love to make this "lol redditors" comment and yet in most farming / gardening / homesteading subs the notion that it's safe if used correctly is almost always at the top.
It's really disturbing to see that not only is it not being decommissioned from agricultural and professional lawncare use, but now it's also being marketed on TV for direct home use as a lazy lawncare alternative. As if cancer rates aren't already high enough.
All of the gardening subs have people recommending it. And when I say what I have here, I get downvoted to oblivion and told "naw it's really safe". With three dead pets and one more that might end up the same way including my wife and I, then yeah I have strong feelings about it.
Did they walk around in it while it was wet? Also, what kind of cancers did they get? It's only associated with one type.
There is zero clinical data showing any association with cancer.
Not in dogs at least. And it's not like cancer in dogs is uncommon: https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/petcare/cancer-pets But there absolutely are studies that show links to cancer, *in agricultural workers*. But these commenters never give a fuck about them, it's never about improving labor conditions, or cracking down on the companies exposing their workers to those conditions, or dismantling the immigration laws that enable the exploitation of undocumented workers. They genuinely believe the real problem is the neighbor spraying dandelions. It's all about MY yard and MY health and MY pets and anyone who disagrees literally killed my dog! Some actual studies, since no one else in the thread has any: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10937404.2012.632358 https://factor.niehs.nih.gov/2020/7/papers/kidney-cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8431399/#B21-cancers-13-04477 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8525621/
The last one doesnt help. It's broad (includes all pesticides, majority being insecticides) and isn't specific to roundup. I didn't look at the rest, just chose one at random to see
There he is.
Maybe there is one like that and I’ve just not heard of it, but several of the “pet safe” weed killers I’ve seen just mean they aren’t fatal but they can still cause issues like skin irritation. And most of them still say keep your pet away for 24 hours. People use vinegar (or straight acetic acid) and salt as common natural weed killers, but in high enough concentrations to kill weeds, they can burn your dogs skin so your dog should be kept away for a good time after. Also the “pet safe” weed killers I’ve seen are actually just all-plant killers and will kill all the grass. I’m very confused what could possibly be natural/organic and not kill the grass as well. Tell them you mentioned their weed killer to a friend and they want to know what it is so they can get it. Could they find out for you so you can tell your friend. Because I, your new internet friend, want to know what I could use on my driveway.
I may have found what they were using and it's probably harmless when dried. Organic, brownish and kills dandelions might be *"Captain Jack's™ Lawnweed Brew"*, with a folksy name and a label assuring you that it's "Derived from Iron, which occurs in nature" to make you feel better about buying it. [https://extension.umd.edu/resource/iron-based-herbicides](https://extension.umd.edu/resource/iron-based-herbicides) >iron (Fe) is bound to a chelating agent (such as HEDTA or (hydroxyethylenediaminetriacetic acid) that keeps it soluble and readily available for plant uptake. And the excess iron kills the plants. [https://bonide.com/product/captain-jacks-lawnweed-brew-conc/#tab-product\_labels](https://bonide.com/product/captain-jacks-lawnweed-brew-conc/#tab-product_labels) And the MSDS [https://files.plytix.com/api/v1.1/file/public\_files/pim/private/assets/43/37/8d/5e/5e8d3743202d9eba64d3af60/texts/52/af/5c/60/605caf5256c98b0d2a020239/sds2611.pdf](https://files.plytix.com/api/v1.1/file/public_files/pim/private/assets/43/37/8d/5e/5e8d3743202d9eba64d3af60/texts/52/af/5c/60/605caf5256c98b0d2a020239/sds2611.pdf)
This was my hunch, based on the brown color, but I've used it under a different brand name. The one I used is considered acceptable for organic use (*meaning organic growing standards, not carbon-based chemistry). I honestly didn't find it to work well at all. 30% vinegar knocked weeds back, but dandelions seemed to come back.
I’d ask for clarification on the name of the product and research from there. If you are worried about it maybe you could compromise with them by you taking over weed maintenance and using a diluted vinegar or whatever you are comfortable with. Hope it works out, neighbors are important but can be tricky.
You can get a cheap weed torch & fry the dandelions. Your neighbors might have fun doing that. By the way, neither dandelions or honeybees are native to the Americas. Ground bees like Mason bees & bumblebees are native & are far better pollinators.
Doesn’t matter if it’s produced at a chemical plant from oil residues or in a shed from plant material - poison is poisoneous. If they dislike the dandelions just pull them up.
I bought this last year and I am amazed at how well it works. It takes a few tries to figure it out, but I can’t believe I’d never seen or heard of one prior https://grampasweeder.com/products/grampas-weeder
One thing it could be is Fiesta, which is an iron-based broadleaf weed killer that specifically targets only a few plant types and is supposedly safe for animals and bees etc… (supposedly!) It’s a dark rusty red/brown color
There was a man in my old neighborhood that claimed the round up he was spraying wasn’t round up. I confronted him, while videotaping the whole thing, told him I am asthmatic, and his poison was causing me medical issues (which was true). I also told him I have no compunction about bout suing him if I got cancer. He laughed and said “good luck proving that”. I said “I don’t need to prove it, I just need to drag a lawsuit put long enough to bankrupt you.” He never used it again.
Not sure what would be dark brown color. As far as organic is concerned there are acetic acids that are considered organic that ‘burn’ the foliage of weeds to help prevent photosynthesis. It isn’t a systemic like round up so the plant might still push out new growth. The product is sprayed on plants repeatedly until the plant runs out of carbohydrates. I’d still want to know exactly what it is. That’s fair
I have used a product called Captain Jack’s Dead Weed Brew. This is rated for use in organic gardening. The active ingredients are caprylic acid and capric acid. Both caprylic acid and capric acid are found naturally in coconut milk as well as milk of some mammals. Caprylic acid is even taken as a dietary supplement, but you’ll have to look that up yourself. Among the uses for caprylic and capric acids is as an algaecide, moss killer and herbicide. The herbicide product is very concentrated and when sprayed on vegetation it will kill any foliage that it contacts. However, it is not systemic and has a short term effect, so it does not accumulate in the environment and cause havoc. To use it properly one will need to use the correct PPE because it will cause eye and skin irritation if it makes contact. Likewise it would be harmful for dogs or cats or other animals coming into direct exposure. For harm to occur, it would require immediate, direct exposure. Once it dries it degrades very quickly, so residual harm is extremely unlikely. Personally I have entirely eliminated my lawn over the past couple of decades, and I found the Dead Weed Brew to be useful in some certain limited applications. One area I found it very useful was a rocky zone that was difficult to weed manually. Anyway if this is what your neighbors are using, it’s not too worrisome. Just be sure to keep your dogs out of it when it is freshly applied.
It is possible; a company by the name of Sunday has a dandelion killer that is nutrient based. It is based on the principle that if they have too much of one nutrient in particular, the plant dies. For most Weed style plans it's a nutrient that makes the grass thrive. I think it is Iron, but I could be wrong and do not want to take the time to look it up at present.
It's unlikely an over the counter herbicide that is only being used as a spot spraying will be toxic. Most lawncare companies BROADCAST spray the *entire* lawn *twice a year* with dicamba and 2-4D. I'm not saying I like it, but just for perspective, that is the standard for most lawncare companies. I think it's lucky that he is spot spraying instead of doing this extremely common practice of 2x a season broadcast spray, where they legally have to put signs up that says to keep dogs off the lawn. I wouldn't worry about it as long as you keep your dogs off his lawn for enough hours for it to dry.
Oye I hate sprays. My town and their dandelion "control program". Spraying poison everywhere close to my property after a asked them not to and I have cancer. Hate it!
Probably iron.
I just bought a fiskars weed puller for my garden. Great $40 purchase. I get outside for a few minutes, tidy up the lawn, no chemicals.
I use Dandelion Doom by Sunday and it's main ingredient is iron, so it's dark brown.
Anything that kills plants is not good for you
Who bunch of things that will kill a dog are organic. You need to find the name of the product. He shouldn’t be spraying something if he doesn’t know the name.
Plenty of organic ways to kill weeds. Your neighbor is likely telling the truth. Even if they used toxic stuff the OTC weed killers are safe once dry. Just keep the dog off it until dry or a few hours after. There is not much evidence stating otherwise.
Farmig family here.. Brown... Thats one of 2 chemicals, par3 and curtail there are other brands (killed for example) but the actual drug is the same. Describe the smell... Solvent like? Made you question if it was safe to breath?
It could be. Depends on the actual product he's using. Organics are non selective burndown products. If he's not spot spraying, he should also be killing his grass. Most Organics are sold in small spray bottle sizes, not things you fill a backpack with. Ask to see the label. If he sayings it's a recipe he cooked up or got off the internet, you need to let your state's office of pesticides know as it's probably illegal in your state.
I would make them an offer: “I have a proposal, I will take out the dandelions by hand if you will agree not to spray. How about a 30 day trial and we evaluate it again at the end of that time?”
It's toxic when dry, it has to rain and rinse it off
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Your neighbor is a moron, sorry.
Maybe Google it.