I met a Traveler in a settlement once. The text said they drew a sword on me when I approached, even though they were just standing there doing nothing.
Given the lack of animations for basically everything in this game, I'm really curious how Light No Fire is going to play out. I feel like they add/test a lot of things from LNF in NMS, yet we still don't have melee weapons. I'm a cynic, so it makes me worried for how LNF's combat will be, but I'm still hopeful the game will be solid. I'd love to have a knife in this game, and I usually pick the armored legs specifically because having a knife is thematic to me.
Light No Fire, Look it Up If you want to. Its the new Game by Hello, with a similiar system to NMS, but Set in a Fantasy world and the procedural Generation only Happens on a single Planet. Hello Games claimedy that will cause the Generation to be much more realistic and Detail oriented.
Also, the Fantasy aspect brings new Options For Combat and Other systems. The Trailers and the Logo also hint to some Kind of Connection between LNF and NMS, but Most likely Just Something Like both being Simulations from different entitys in the Same universe
I imagined a simple mod for the multitool that increased melee damage. Maybe something like Mass Effect's omni-blade, basically an offensive version of the personal shield that would activate when you punch.
Practically, it would probably save a lot of ammo when fighting horrors. Cutting two punches down to one would make melee-only a reasonably viable approach.
It kind of takes me out of the game a bit when they use text and there's zero animation. I can't imagine the animation would take 10% of the budget either, even though I understand you were being facetious. Honestly, the fact that they even mention a sword when they don't show any melee weapons other than things like the OP kind of takes me out of it anyway. Like, I haven't seen a sword anywhere, and this dude is pulling an imaginary one on me?
According to the Vy’keen lore, they do this because sharing blood invigorates and heals other Vy’keen. Some factories in Vy’keen systems have the preserved and still beating hearts of fallen warriors, where they harvest the blood to give to younger warriors. On that note, the correct choice to make during that event is to deactivate the life support and let the hearts die honorably.
The multi-tool specialist you hire for your base also begins to rapidly decline in health until you give him a dagger coated in Vy’keen blood, which he uses to heal himself.
Hirk V Nal
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!!
Watch the Vy’Keen Prophet Vs the VY’KEEN HERETIC!
Tickets only available to first contact Euclid users, no refunds, guaranteed!
You actually get Most of that Infos by the Vy'keen NPC you can hire, He gets sick during His time with you and then wants you to collect Vy'keen knifes so He can heal with the blood in the daggers.
Thats some of the Not so Hidden NMS lore
Why would there be a ceremonial dagger strapped on a pair of combat-approved gek boots? Besides, that thing looks crude as a flintstone if you ask me, much less a shiny, slim dagger like the ones vykeens use
You buy them from the exosuit vendor at the Anomaly. Tap the jump button once to do a short jump, as you're landing from that, press and hold the jump button again and you'll be launched in the air with forward momentum. Continue to hold the jump button down for further bursts of speed until you want to stop or the tank runs out. You're better off repeatedly tapping the jump button during the flight so you stay close to the ground, which maximizes forward motion while not risking a fall from height when your fuel runs out.
I know, but with expeditions like this current one, VR players have to deal with slow on-foot speeds since we can’t just buy it.
Unless we get REAL lucky with our rare tech drops.
If you're on a new save and can't have Rocket Boots waiting for you in the Anomaly terminal, I'd suggest finding a robot creature as soon as you can and adopting it to use as a mount.
I mean melee has its uses, but when you're permadeath or custom settings... I deviate from 40k melee philosophy and proudly adopted tau kill from range...cyclotron/infra knife and on multi tool neutron cannon, and the the brrrrrt of the bolt caster.
Brrrrt of the bolt caster fully upgraded is very pleasant. Especially when eliminating bio horrors from the top of an abandoned structure because they don't live long enough to learn how to climb.
The Emperor of man's preferred method of combat. Pure victory with your fists.
I understand that it is a wild concept... But if you were given a fist with a field of power... Nothing would stand in your way except ranged weapons and munitions.
Snipers, artillery, and orbital bombardment... Kill sentinels before they target you.
FYI the armored exo suit is Vy'Keen in origin, they use their daggers in many different rituals, including regeneration of "self", also you do have a melee attack, it just almost every one uses it only for movement lol
Yes, specially with pesky animals lol, I have been thinking of doing a permadeath but am kind of scare lol, and I hated survival, 500 units it not enough, it now and I run off materials all the time lol
Fallout 4 has a game mechanic where you pick up random radio transmissions as you travel. Following the transmission to it's source leads to some kind of interesting encounter, either loot or a story of some kind. Something like that?
Edit: example: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Distress_signal_(Relay_tower_0SC-527)
Yall, it's not a vykeen dagger, they look different. With that, it also states that vy'keen daggers are "largely" ceremonial, meaning it is still usable as a melee weapon, it's just mostly not used as such. Understandable as multitools would be far more effective.
[here](https://app.nmsassistant.com/link/cur38.html) is the link to the description in the assistant app.
https://preview.redd.it/zjzfyhjne28d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9bb68f5da6ab924daa9f38a63a38983bc514a68
Here's an actual vy'keen dagger.
What's even funnier is there is a melee attack where you can bash targets with your multitool, so it would only take changing the animations related to that attack to make a melee weapon usable. It is also a game mechanic that's completely unutilized, AFAIK. It could be implemented for harvesting plant materials, for example...
Of course it has melee weapons! I only play on PSVR (now PSVR2), and I punch to death everything I can reach, including my friend, especially after he kills me through friendly fire… like dude, stop shooting into melee, I swear once I get my Gundam I’m destroying his entire base, which is within shooting distance of mine XD
I came across a traveller that had a multi sword and was talking about barons and things.
so his universe was sci Fi medieval.
pretty cool but he hit me with it and damaged me.
gave him nanites and he was okand apologized.
I really hope this is one area of the game they expand on heavily for the next game. I know it's about exploring and building, but damn, give me something more than overloading my EVERYTHING tool and spray and pray.
cosmetic.
however you CAN bash with your multi tool. it's weak and slow, but early in a survival game you might want to save carbon by bashing some resources instead of using the mining beam.
don't try it on aggressive fauna... you can hurt them but they'll WRECK you first
Travellers have a nasty jab, capable of exploding biological horrors in a single punch (at least in VR), and obliterating boulders and trees with just a few blows as well.
A knife would be just be overoverkill with such power.
I met a Traveler in a settlement once. The text said they drew a sword on me when I approached, even though they were just standing there doing nothing.
How cool would it be to actually own 'multi-swords'
Given the lack of animations for basically everything in this game, I'm really curious how Light No Fire is going to play out. I feel like they add/test a lot of things from LNF in NMS, yet we still don't have melee weapons. I'm a cynic, so it makes me worried for how LNF's combat will be, but I'm still hopeful the game will be solid. I'd love to have a knife in this game, and I usually pick the armored legs specifically because having a knife is thematic to me.
Ultimately I’ll be happy if it’s got Skyrim style melee as long as shields and blocking are more effective
Kingdom come deliverance moment
Kingdom come deliverance moment
I might be living under a rock what is LNF???
Light No Fire, Look it Up If you want to. Its the new Game by Hello, with a similiar system to NMS, but Set in a Fantasy world and the procedural Generation only Happens on a single Planet. Hello Games claimedy that will cause the Generation to be much more realistic and Detail oriented. Also, the Fantasy aspect brings new Options For Combat and Other systems. The Trailers and the Logo also hint to some Kind of Connection between LNF and NMS, but Most likely Just Something Like both being Simulations from different entitys in the Same universe
And they've apparently been working on it for ~5 years, with a separate smaller team at the studio.
Light No Fire, a game that the NMS developers are currently making.
I mean, I literally used the full name in the first sentence before switching to the initialism.
I imagined a simple mod for the multitool that increased melee damage. Maybe something like Mass Effect's omni-blade, basically an offensive version of the personal shield that would activate when you punch. Practically, it would probably save a lot of ammo when fighting horrors. Cutting two punches down to one would make melee-only a reasonably viable approach.
I like it when games do that as opposed to making a whole animation for something that costs 10% of the whole budget, just let me read what I do lol
It kind of takes me out of the game a bit when they use text and there's zero animation. I can't imagine the animation would take 10% of the budget either, even though I understand you were being facetious. Honestly, the fact that they even mention a sword when they don't show any melee weapons other than things like the OP kind of takes me out of it anyway. Like, I haven't seen a sword anywhere, and this dude is pulling an imaginary one on me?
its a ritual dagger, not for combat.
Well, they are made to stab something or someone, aren't they?
I found a vykken dialogue where they hurt themselves with the dagger and offered it to me, so i guess its just for cerimonial uses
According to the Vy’keen lore, they do this because sharing blood invigorates and heals other Vy’keen. Some factories in Vy’keen systems have the preserved and still beating hearts of fallen warriors, where they harvest the blood to give to younger warriors. On that note, the correct choice to make during that event is to deactivate the life support and let the hearts die honorably. The multi-tool specialist you hire for your base also begins to rapidly decline in health until you give him a dagger coated in Vy’keen blood, which he uses to heal himself.
Well that was a deep dive into Vy’keen lore I had never noticed. Brutal.
Hirk V Nal SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!! Watch the Vy’Keen Prophet Vs the VY’KEEN HERETIC! Tickets only available to first contact Euclid users, no refunds, guaranteed!
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Justice for NAL!!
You actually get Most of that Infos by the Vy'keen NPC you can hire, He gets sick during His time with you and then wants you to collect Vy'keen knifes so He can heal with the blood in the daggers. Thats some of the Not so Hidden NMS lore
As if I thought the Vy’keen couldn’t get any more metal
A quick Melee function would be very handy when I'm getting swarmed by sentinels. A grappling hook like in Halo infinite would also be helpful.
There is a melee button on the game. It just smacks with your multitool. It's not very effective in combat, though.
Great for breaking down locked doors, though.
Ceremonially.
every fight is just ritual combat
For the Vykeen? Yes!
LET'S GET CEREMONIOUS
Stabs you and takes your wallet *ceremonially*
No, like the vykeen dagger. Ceremonial.
Why would there be a ceremonial dagger strapped on a pair of combat-approved gek boots? Besides, that thing looks crude as a flintstone if you ask me, much less a shiny, slim dagger like the ones vykeens use
Those are vy'keen pants, not gek. It's a part of the vy'keen armor set.
Pull it out…. Oh wait, you can’t but I’m gonna get a lecture? 🤣 bruh
D:
vy keen seem to like stabbing themselves and then having someone else stab themselves with that same knife as a sign of friendship.
Yes. Yourself.
In the same way a butter knife is, sure
That's a Sikh knife then. Sorry, had to 😁
Or a coorgi knife (Pichangatti).
It's for stabbing yourself and going "Grah! GRAH!"
It's just a poop knife
This is the classy comment I came here to find. Well done.
Well done indeed
Another Reddit win
Don't we hammer plants if we have no carbon to recharge the Multitool? Maybe we could stab and bash for melee, you never know with Hello Games! :)
Technically that's just a buttplate smash but yeah it works in a way
Yeah I had to do it on this last expedition.
wym, they're used to cut through the air when you meleee-jump.
As a VR player I have no idea what this “melee jump” you speak of…😢
Equip the Rocket Boots to get the same effect.
Wait. These are an actual thing somewhere in the Anomaly? I've been getting around with jetpack jumps when therre was an easier way? Tell me more...
You buy them from the exosuit vendor at the Anomaly. Tap the jump button once to do a short jump, as you're landing from that, press and hold the jump button again and you'll be launched in the air with forward momentum. Continue to hold the jump button down for further bursts of speed until you want to stop or the tank runs out. You're better off repeatedly tapping the jump button during the flight so you stay close to the ground, which maximizes forward motion while not risking a fall from height when your fuel runs out.
I know, but with expeditions like this current one, VR players have to deal with slow on-foot speeds since we can’t just buy it. Unless we get REAL lucky with our rare tech drops.
If you're on a new save and can't have Rocket Boots waiting for you in the Anomaly terminal, I'd suggest finding a robot creature as soon as you can and adopting it to use as a mount.
I mean melee has its uses, but when you're permadeath or custom settings... I deviate from 40k melee philosophy and proudly adopted tau kill from range...cyclotron/infra knife and on multi tool neutron cannon, and the the brrrrrt of the bolt caster. Brrrrt of the bolt caster fully upgraded is very pleasant. Especially when eliminating bio horrors from the top of an abandoned structure because they don't live long enough to learn how to climb.
True follower of the greater good!!!! What the fuck is melee!!!!
I don’t think I’ve ever used melee as a form of defense. Always my good ol’ Plasma Spitter.
The Emperor of man's preferred method of combat. Pure victory with your fists. I understand that it is a wild concept... But if you were given a fist with a field of power... Nothing would stand in your way except ranged weapons and munitions. Snipers, artillery, and orbital bombardment... Kill sentinels before they target you.
Nothing stands in your way except... guns?
I too enjoy the satisfying, reassuring brrrrt of the boltcaster when it's maxed out.
laser sword when
This isn't star wars
that's why they said laser sword and not lightsaber. smh
silly
FYI the armored exo suit is Vy'Keen in origin, they use their daggers in many different rituals, including regeneration of "self", also you do have a melee attack, it just almost every one uses it only for movement lol
I used melee harvesting a lot at the very beginning of a game to preserve carbon on planets with few plants…
especially survival
Yes, specially with pesky animals lol, I have been thinking of doing a permadeath but am kind of scare lol, and I hated survival, 500 units it not enough, it now and I run off materials all the time lol
I always assumed it was a utility knife, for emergencies or something. When you have a space future gun, why knife?
Because space future guns require some type of ammunition, and knives don't.
This is like with old action figures, that had weapons as part of their mold, so you couldn't have the character wield them...
Please HG just let me stab a fucking gek just once please I’m begging you
Kentucky Fried Gek
Grah-Lickin' Good!
You know the world is messed up when kitchen tools are now melee weapons
starships have com radios too, but you can never call anyone with it
Who you gonna call?
Ghost busters!
I came here for this
*Saxophone and synth intensifies*
It would be interesting if we could pick up planetary missions or have procedural dialogues through dialing in our comms
Fallout 4 has a game mechanic where you pick up random radio transmissions as you travel. Following the transmission to it's source leads to some kind of interesting encounter, either loot or a story of some kind. Something like that? Edit: example: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Distress_signal_(Relay_tower_0SC-527)
what is a knife gonna do against a sentinel anyways
Poke em in the eye perhaps?
You could probably use it to pry armor plates off, then stab 'em in the more important bits under the armor
Maybe you use the knife to "pry off edible bits " and "harvest berries " from animals.
What if it's some kind of high frequency/vibroblade and you can cut through Sentinels like butter, Metal Gear Rising style
My suit craves the viscera of local fauna seeping into any soft bits I need a melee weapon
Yall, it's not a vykeen dagger, they look different. With that, it also states that vy'keen daggers are "largely" ceremonial, meaning it is still usable as a melee weapon, it's just mostly not used as such. Understandable as multitools would be far more effective. [here](https://app.nmsassistant.com/link/cur38.html) is the link to the description in the assistant app.
https://preview.redd.it/zjzfyhjne28d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9bb68f5da6ab924daa9f38a63a38983bc514a68 Here's an actual vy'keen dagger.
The Gek’s just standing there like “What are you doing?”
What's even funnier is there is a melee attack where you can bash targets with your multitool, so it would only take changing the animations related to that attack to make a melee weapon usable. It is also a game mechanic that's completely unutilized, AFAIK. It could be implemented for harvesting plant materials, for example...
I'm still fairly new to the game and I thought the staff was a melee weapon....the disappointment I felt hasn't left...
Just smack with multitool, who needs melee?
Of course it has melee weapons! I only play on PSVR (now PSVR2), and I punch to death everything I can reach, including my friend, especially after he kills me through friendly fire… like dude, stop shooting into melee, I swear once I get my Gundam I’m destroying his entire base, which is within shooting distance of mine XD
I came across a traveller that had a multi sword and was talking about barons and things. so his universe was sci Fi medieval. pretty cool but he hit me with it and damaged me. gave him nanites and he was okand apologized.
I have 400 hours in this game, how did I never notice this??
Where is the multisword?
HG! GIVE ME A COOL ASS SPACE SWORD AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
I wish we had melee weapons like power axe power sword etc
Every time I see the red gem on the multitool that is a staff it reminds me of DOOM Guy's sword.
The melee weapons are only used while jumping.
Dem knives are for cutting ropes and stuff. Too puny for combat or varmint defense.
Almost expressly why I wear these leggings.
Doubt you'd need one with all the tech a multi-tool can be installed with
Melee damage in NMS is almost non existence.
Weapons were removed from standard survival blueprints following the massacre on Obraxis Prime. The knife remains the only exception.
...knives are a utility item also...🤷♂️
**We should be able to shank a fool.** This is such an oversight on the part of Hello Games. =/ ;)
I use it as my toe knife
I really hope this is one area of the game they expand on heavily for the next game. I know it's about exploring and building, but damn, give me something more than overloading my EVERYTHING tool and spray and pray.
You can 'punch' flora to get carbon when you are out of fuel.
That is the ceremonial cake knife for your friends ceremonial cake.
cosmetic. however you CAN bash with your multi tool. it's weak and slow, but early in a survival game you might want to save carbon by bashing some resources instead of using the mining beam. don't try it on aggressive fauna... you can hurt them but they'll WRECK you first
Travellers have a nasty jab, capable of exploding biological horrors in a single punch (at least in VR), and obliterating boulders and trees with just a few blows as well. A knife would be just be overoverkill with such power.
\*Halo Assassinates someone\*
Crotch shot
That Gek is looking and thinking "That is Euclid's ass"
Imagine a Gek going full GekGek on you with a knife after stealing his NipNip..
Watch how they flex and stretch when your character leans in the idle animation. Those aren't harming anything
Multiblades were mentioned in lore since day 1 in some VyKeen dialogues. We're still waiting for Multiblades.
Considering you can carry multiple laser shooters, I think that knife would be for decoration more than anything else
That my good sir is a cheese knife
No melee weapons? I’ve been pistol whipping things since day 1
Pretty sure that might be a Vy’keen dagger.
Theirs alot of mentions of a Omni sword in game dialogues