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Ford and Carter they were best friends after the election of 1976


shine_on05

Carter must have liked football and nachos.


[deleted]

Maybe he did. But would’ve been fans of sucky teams the Lions and the Falcons were terrible in the 70,80,99,2000,2010


Roblox_Morty

HEY, I got nothing. At least we were good last year.


[deleted]

Yeah we were


Johnsendall

Missed the reference ![gif](giphy|a93jwI0wkWTQs)


PassorFail1307

https://i.redd.it/al1x2btg2s0d1.gif


Junior-Gorg

And drinking beer


UnderstandingOdd679

Billy Beer.


splootsuit

We elected the wrong Carter.


ShystersGame

With PJ and Squee?


LiamNeesonsDad

https://i.redd.it/fh93stlo5t0d1.gif


KananJarrusEyeBalls

This is the answer, Carters Eulogy for Ford was very heartfelt


[deleted]

It was amazing to hear


TheMadIrishman327

Until Carter screwed him over in 1989 (Panamanian elections). They weren’t really on good terms after that. There’s a reason Presidents quit dealing with Carter. He screwed over Clinton too.


[deleted]

Really I didn’t know that


SaturnATX

GWBush and his family were very friendly with both Clinton and Obama.


cmparkerson

HW Bush and Clinton too.


HawkeyeJosh2

Didn’t Dubya say that Clinton was essentially an honorary member of the Bush family?


Interesting_Sign_373

Yeah, I think Clinton called himself the black sheep and W said he was the brother from another mother.


Thatguy755

Like the second son HW never had. Poor Jeb.


Difficult_Variety362

Who's Jeb? We only know of Jeb! here.


HawkeyeJosh2

Please clap.


drrj

This will never not be funny.


Le_Turtle_God

Well, at least he asked nicely


Lazy_Vetra

At his dads funeral he called Clinton one of his dads other sons along with some other men


ithappenedone234

I think it was Jeb who said he thought HW liked Bill more than any of them.


DrSassyPants123

Yep - I also think that HW and Barbara were the parents Clinton wished he had. I love the fact they took him in and treated him like family.


TMorrisCode

That tracks. Clinton had some daddy issues.


genzgingee

Yes


Stock-Transition-343

Well they are all the same just doing the work of the elites


Passname357

At least they were liars we could trust.


Russell-The-Muscle

At least Clinton administration helped the middle class in the process .


WWDB

Yes and Bush spoke fondly of how well Clinton treated him when they took a long trip together.


Interesting_Sign_373

W always seemed impressed with how Clinton treated his dad too.


DePraelen

Wasn't the 2001 transition pretty acrimonious? I remember reading that W went out of his way to make things as smooth as possible for the incoming Obama admin, partly because he resented the way he had come in. It's part of why he and the Obamas get along so well.


Interesting_Sign_373

I'm not sure about 2001. I did hear that someone pulled a prank on W and removed all the Ws from the white house keyboards! That's a pretty good pack. I DO recall that W tried to make everything as smooth as possible for Obama bc Obama wanted to the same for rule 3.


rkincaid007

One of us heard it wrong bc I was under the impression W said he welcomed the Obamas bc that’s how he was treated and he wanted to pay it forward. Going to Google it bc now I’m curious if I misheard or misremembered


thecarlosdanger1

It wasn’t acrimonious afaik it just was super messy. From what I read admins just didn’t really plan for the transition in the past so it took forever to get up and running. Probably influenced by 9/11 happening 8 months into Ws first term, he put a lot of effort into “modernizing” the transition to the next admin.


doubledeus

The Clinton to Bush transition was compressed because Bush wasn't certified as the winner until Dec 12th. That's where the mess came from. Going forward, they made sure to begin the transition process much earlier. Preliminary steps for transition now begin in the summer before the election.


doubledeus

It wasn't acrimonious, it was really compressed. Bush wasn't certified as the winner until mid-December, so the transition was very rushed.


FalaciousTroll

Fox News and right-wing hacks like Paul Harvey tried to make it sound that way, but it was mostly some harmless pranks/practical jokes like the W key thing.


bloop_405

Makes sense, former president is a very small group so they all probably understand each other on a unique level. It also helps that they're all rational and very normal people


manyhippofarts

Plus, they're all smart enough to put personal politics aside when they're together.


BicyclingBabe

I mean, compared to today, the personal politics are likely not all that far from each other. Both had similar goals, just different routes to get there.


bemenaker

Except for one


Interesting_Sign_373

W and Clinton have children and grandchildren the same age. That shared experience probably helped too. know the Obama girls have met the Bush twins. It's such a small group with unique experiences and it's nice that they all have each other. I remember in 2016 when it looked like it might be Jeb vs HRC and they asked how the election would effect their friendship. They basically shrugged, said they would vote how they see fit and keep being friends.


archercc81

Yeah you can tell, until recently, there was a bond because of the job. The notes left for the next guy, etc. They all know how hard the job actually is.


AloneList9475

I love this so much.


LeicaM6guy

I kind of wonder what W would have been like without the influence of the hard, hard right members of his cabinet. Or, you know, without September 11.


MobsterDragon275

Aren't GW and Michelle actually really good friends?


DougBalt2

There have been photos of them sitting together at events. Read they were close.


Silly_Somewhere1791

I bet it makes a difference that they all did two terms and, in retrospect, weren’t running against each other.


SimonGloom2

I have to wonder what exactly that was all about. Did they have common financial interests? Were they just attempting to create influence for uniting Dems and GOP? There's gotta be something to the story.


The_Zermanians

I think it’s as simple as HW Bush had a gracious transition for Clinton and Clinton wanted to return the favor.


Helltothenotothenono

I would actually enjoy the two of them in a podcast or some kind of talk show format. Politics aside they are both charismatic on the personal level and would be interesting to listen too. Call it W & Billy’s bonfire chat.


notimeleft4you

Oval Office Ladies


Interesting_Sign_373

I would listen to that.


HansElbowman

Bush and Willy Discuss Pubic Service


Thatguy755

Bubba and Dubya reminisce about war crimes


Helltothenotothenono

Bubba and Dubua reminisce about alcoholism and fast food.


TimesNewRandom

That would be so cool. I hope we get to a point where former president do that someday


obert-wan-kenobert

Probably Adams and Jefferson. Their exchange of letters after they repaired their falling out is some of greatest American writing ever. “We ought not to die before we have explained ourselves to each other.”


HawkeyeJosh2

And then they died on the same day.


Paredog_

Adams’ last words were “Jefferson lives” despite him having died earlier that day 😥


Key-Performer-9364

Couldn’t even be bothered to check Twitter and stay current on the news, smdh.


rootbeerman77

I mean he was apparently feeling pretty sick. Probably didn't want to get his phone out in case the news only made him more depressed. Also the internet was pretty slow back then, so its possible he didn't want to deal with the load time


Makanek

Back when it was still called Twitter.


ShystersGame

Didn't even know he was sick....


LarsThorwald

A hat tip to you, friend. RIP Norm.


jasonreid1976

Not just the same day, the 50th birthday of the US.


No_Dragonfruit5525

Damn.


rosekat34

Yeah when I finally got to watch the John Adams series on HBO this blew my mind too


finditplz1

Just rewatched. Cannot recommend highly enough. It’s a great production.


L8_2_PartE

What did you think about the way they portrayed Adams in that miniseries, vs. the recent Ben Franklin series on AppleTV?


finditplz1

I didn’t want the Franklin series. But I think it was a fair, nuanced performance by Giamatti. I think it showed Adams’s principled nature and altruism as well as his inflexibility, lack of diplomatic tact, and immense ego.


No_Dragonfruit5525

Ill definitely find it. Thanks.


HawkeyeJosh2

Yep. To add to the coincidence, it was July 4, 1826 - 50 years to the day after signing the Declaration of Independence.


No_Dragonfruit5525

Thats something else. Truth is always stranger than fiction, I guess.


SimonGloom2

If it weren't for the feud, perhaps. Since it was one of those best friends fallout feuds I think it may even solidify their friendship more.


Gold_Celebration_393

Perhaps not the best, but Clinton and Nixon’s mentee-mentor relationship was unique and one that stood out to me the most during my reading of The Presidents Club. Essentially, Clinton really valued and respected Nixon’s opinions on foreign policy and, for Nixon, I think this was some nice redemption at the end of his life.


Sweetams

Is there any particular event or bill regarding this? I’m pretty interested in this backstory.


Gold_Celebration_393

Specifically about navigating Russia post-Cold War. Clinton: “I sought guidance in the example of President Nixon, who came to the presidency at a time in our history when Americans were tempted to say, 'We've had enough of the world.’ But President Nixon knew we had to continue to reach out to old friends and to old enemies alike. He knew America could not quit the world." Here’s some more info that was declassified about 10 years ago: https://will.illinois.edu/news/story/new-documents-provide-insight-into-relationship-of-presidents-clinton-nixon


Sweetams

According to Nixon, we should have been tougher on Russia’s foreign policies towards their neighbors.


No_Dragonfruit5525

Excellent link, thank you


The-Curiosity-Rover

Lincoln liked Andrew Johnson and admired the fact that he remained loyal to the Union despite being from the South. Lincoln was reportedly glad when he was chosen as his running mate, saying “Andy Johnson, I think, is a good man”. Of course, Andrew Johnson ended up being one of the worst presidents in history. To be fair, though, any other Southern Democrat would have been even worse.


Robinkc1

Johnson is a really interesting read. Obviously, he is an awful president and scuttled reconstruction which has rippled down for a hundred years, but he hated the southern aristocratic plantation owners as much as any abolitionist, just not for the same reasons.


HawkeyeJosh2

Didn’t Johnson get rip-roaringly drunk before the Lincoln-Johnson inauguration and give a terrible inaugural speech that embarrassed the hell out of Lincoln?


Blue387

Yes, he also gave a terrible inauguration speech after the death of Lincoln


Key-Performer-9364

Depends who you ask. Ive read a number of versions of what happens. He may have been drunk or he may have been sick. Or he may have been told to have a drink because he had a paralyzing case of nervousness/stage fright. He did give a terrible speech though, and Lincoln was asked about it and compelled to deny that Johnson was a drunkard.


0fruitjack0

the og - adams/jefferson 2nd place - truman/hoover


Agreeable-Media-6176

Truman would give out signed copies of Hoover’s book “Fishing for Fun” the admiration was sincere.


MartyRobbinsIRL

I read a letter from Hoover to Truman where the former claims that ‘bathtubs are a menace to ex-presidents’ after they’d both fallen and been injured in one. It’s also well-known that the ex-presidential pension was possibly created because Truman was rather poor when he left office, but Hoover - who was better off financially - also took the pension to avoid embarrassing his friend. how nice.


Sweaty_Win1832

Not president to president, but I genuinely enjoy watching W interact with Michelle. Appears they truly enjoy each others’ company & it’s refreshing to see


AllgoodDude

Michelle just seems to have been loved by pretty much everyone.


ExtraElevator7042

Except some QAnon people


Whiteroses7252012

I heard somewhere that Obama was one of the last people HW Bush spoke to before he died. Doro Bush hugged Obama, said “he’s been waiting for you”, and left them be.


No_Bet_4427

Perhaps there are better examples, but Nixon and Kennedy were friends when they served together in Congress, and Kennedy contributed (under the table) to one of Nixon’s Congressional campaigns. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/TkI5fKvf0fE


cappotto-marrone

Truman and Hoover. Hoover wrote to Truman, “Yours has been a friendship which has reached deeper into my life than you know.”


Zealousideal_Sir_264

I really wish they'd remake "my fellow Americans" with these two. Not actors, like actually both of them. I'm sure the job gives plenty of acting experience.


NYTX1987

Underrated film. “Decaf, you pussy.”


Zealousideal_Sir_264

"Hail to the chief, if you don't, I'll have to kill you. I am the chief so you better watch your step, you bastards" I still sing this in my head every time I hear the melody.


Far_Particular_430

Bush 1 and Clinton


OleFucknuts

I think that modern presidents have learned some very dark shit and realize there's a lot more to the world than they could ever imagine and it humbles them with fear and possibly shame. So they bond in a very deep manner after their time "at the top."


letsbuildasnowman

Just curious, what was the relationship between the Roosevelt families? I know they represented very different parts of NY society but Teddy had some fairly progressive ideas, at least by today’s standards.


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

They were at least cordial. Both of Eleanor's parents died when she was young, so Teddy (who was president at the time) gave her away at the wedding.


GreenWhiteBlue86

The relationship between Franklin and Theodore was cordial, and Franklin's marriage to Teddy's niece Eleanor strengthened the relationship further. Teddy was pleased that Franklin followed his own political route of NY legislator and Assistant Secretary of the Navy. Teddy's death in January of 1919 probably meant that he did not hear about the rupture of the marriage of Eleanor and Franklin in September of 1918, although Teddy's daughter Alice had been encouraging Franklin's affair with Lucy Mercer. After Uncle Ted's death there would be a sharp break in the relations between the Hyde Park Roosevelts and the Oyster Bay Roosevelts over politics, especially in 1924 when Ted Jr. (who was Eleanor's first cousin) was running for Governor -- Eleanor drove around New York State in a car with a steaming teapot on the roof to emphasize Ted Jr.'s connection to the Teapot Dome scandal.


JoaquinBenoit

There is some very limited evidence that Teddy was grooming FDR to be a national figure in politics, as most of their known photographs apart from Franklin’s weddings were near the end of 1916-18, as they shared many ideals. Today I think there is only one surviving photograph of them that’s online.


finian2

From what I'm seeing, almost every single president was at the very least respectful to their opponent and opposing party presidents. Well, until a certain someone appeared.


gdubh

W and Michelle Obama


CougarWriter74

Kennedy and Nixon were good friends while serving together in the Senate, pre-1960. Not sure about after that election since Nixon basically left politics for a while to work as an attorney for Pepsi Cola Co. I always thought it was an odd coincidence Nixon was in Dallas the morning of Nov 22, 1963. He had been in town for the annual Pepsi conference (along with movie star Joan Crawford) and left Friday morning about an hour before Air Force One touched down at Love Field.


tkondaks

While both men served as Senators from their respective states, they were never Senators at the same time. It was while they were Representatives in the House when they forged their friendship, being assigned offices across the hall from each other.


turnstwice

Do you think presidents chat about top secret information with each other that bothers them, and they can't share it with anyone else?


Friendly_Age9160

I mean off the subject but don’t we miss the days when people thought dubyas blank ass stare was the dumbest thing we’d be seeing in the presidency? 🤦‍♀️


bignanoman

Yes Clinton Bush on Haiti 🇭🇹


LastChemical9342

W and Michelle seem like genuine bffs lol


ChangeAroundKid01

That surprised the eff outta me


archercc81

I only know recently but I think the Bushs did well with both Clinton and Obama. I know the sr bush would fish with clinton, etc. But when you see W and the Obamas interact its like they adopted him. Def respect between W and Barack but with Michelle its more like familial love.


biffbobfred

I’ve seen pics of them, some funeral(?) and the love there was real. I truly believe Bush43 was transformed by the Presidency. He became a humble introspective person. Maybe that would have been more useful Before he killed many with incompetence and malice, that’s just me, but going just on 2010 on, I can see it.


archercc81

Concur. I dont think he was intentionally a bad person. Dude was a dolt whose family just wanted to extend the legacy and he had horrible people (cheney) guiding him.


Winterwasp_67

I wonder if W really wanted to be president or it was just what he was told would be his destiny? It seems like he spent most of his adult life pursuing a golden ring that he found out he didn't really want once he got it.


biffbobfred

The dog that caught the car. I can see it


devoduder

I’d say Bush and Obama, but that’s George and Michelle.


probablyabot427

Jefferson and Adams. Absolutely best friends but their political differences put a huge strain on their friendship.


maupin79

Obama & W!


finditplz1

Well after their presidencies — TJ and Adams


gliscornumber1

Would teddy and taft count since teddy ran as an independent?


CreeperRussS

During teddy's presidency yea, but during the 1912 election, they hated each other


gliscornumber1

Yeah I know that part, although I swore I heard that they later made up, Adam's and Jefferson style, I might be wrong about that though


Coneskater

Post presidency I think it’s easier to be friendly. I am more curious which presidents had the best relationships with congressional leaders of the other parties. Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neal come to mind.


NebbyOutOfTheBag

John Boehner and Obama were very friendly, despite everything


bsil15

Probably Van Buren and Fillmore. Both eventually became free soilers


Standard-Economics28

I had no idea what they did as President while they were in office other than the rumor and scandal


Tight_Youth3766

- Nixon and Clinton - HW Bush and Clinton - W Bush and Clinton - W Bush and Obama - Ford and Carter - Truman and Ike - JFK and Ike


symbiont3000

Its funny to me seeing this post and looking over the comments, as the acrimony we see today with some of the presidents really wasnt how things were. Its why W, Clinton and Obama can all get together and have genuinely cordial moments. They set a good example too, because this is how things really should be.


quirkycurlygirly

Clinton: I'm with Stupid. Bush: He he! This guy's a Chad. He he!


Just_Me1973

What’s sad is that all current/former presidents can’t get along the way Clinton and W do no matter which party they belong to. Nowadays instead of seeing each other as team members who want to do the best for our country they see each other as political enemies.


silversurf1234567890

Clinton and the last guy


cid_highwind_7

My vote is these two honestly


StronkyBoy

Kennedy and Nixon


Key-Performer-9364

Famously Jefferson and Adams were great friends for decades, aside from a rift for a few years in the early 1800s.


Expat111

Such good friends that they died on the same day - July 4th which is eerie as hell.


HYPERMAN21stcentury

Ford and Carter


freshcrumble

They’re all buddy buddy behind closed doors


Marxbrosburner

W and Obama are buddies, as I understand it.


Gon_Snow

HW and Clinton I think. And they even ran against each other


biffbobfred

The letter that HW left for Bill was awesome


SherbetOutside1850

Yep. Beautiful. Back when people had "wonder and respect" for the office they occupied.


ColonEscapee

Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson. Can you really think of two that worked more closely?


Captain_Jokes

Ike and jfk had a good working relationship. Ike put America first and tried to help jfk anyway he could.


biffbobfred

Ike. The last good Republican Prez. Before the Great Party Shift. Look at his ‘56 platform - it would be called Radical by current republicans.


fbird1988

Herbert Hoover and Harry Truman. Truman worked with Hoover post-WW2. Hoover was sent to Europe to by Truman to assess the situation there, and also was consulted on reforms to the federal bureaucracy. Hoover IMO was the most accomplished and successful former president.


Fit-Information8194

When you work for the same corporations, friendships do happen.


Bx1965

Bush is giving the photog the finger


Far_Match_3774

Tommy J and Johnny A. We all know about it. We all know they were friends and rivals and friends again.


Pablo_petty_plastic

How *do* neocons and neoliberals manage to find common ground? …Truly, a mystery!


Ok-Director5082

Do presidents actually respect Bush? Feel like Cheney ran the show and he was short to live up to the presidency?


Consistent-Help-5053

George W and Michelle... Okay not really what you asked but I do love their relationship. It gives me hope in the world of politics.


tkondaks

Kennedy and Nixon had rooms across from one another as rookie Congressmen. Apparently they were close. When Nixon was president, he invited Jackie and the two kids over for lunch at the White House where he regaled them with stories about their father.


J-Bob71

Clinton and Bush Sr. Spent a lot of time working together after Clinton’s term.


TheMadIrishman327

Those two. Jeb and Clinton became exceptionally close.


h20poIo

Seems Obama and Bush got along well after he was out of office. People have said he’s a great fun loving guy just wasn’t Presidential material, hence Cheney V P.


callmechimp

One that a lot of people don’t talk about is Eisenhower and Kennedy.


gioinnj22

Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter became very good friends. They made an agreement that whoever died first the other would do the eulogy


Direct_Big_5436

I feel like these two might have bumped into each other at a Frat party at least once.


Standard_Library300

I like to think Obama and McCain held each other in very high esteem and considered themselves friends but I have no idea and too lazy to google it. Mccain was an American hero, heading his story of his military service and imprisonment and eventual rescue makes me proud to be American. And I voted for Obama


ScottyBoy75

W. and Michelle Obama


Visible_Nectarine_98

Bush I and Clinton.


PuzzleheadedIdeal753

Bush Jr and Michelle obama


greekdude1194

Adams and Jefferson post their presidencies


pizza-chit

It’s George Bush and Epstein’s best client


ConsciousSituation39

Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill were the best of friends. I know O’Neil was “only Speaker of the House” (so yes it missed a bit on the topic) but there were several great stories of how he and Reagan would go at it politically, and then laugh about it afterwards and share meals together, etc.


PanzerSama1912

Remember when the presidents played minecraft these two literally teamed up against Obama and Rule 3, so probably the ones in the image displayed lol.


ChildhoodJazzlike333

Uniparty. They’re all in the same syndicate.


Ban-all-mods

War crimes are a bonding experience.


TheGreatGamer1389

I think in most recent times it has to be McCain and Obama.


12frets

George W and Michelle Obama have a wholesome relationship forged over cough drops.


buhnawdsanduhs

Well, these 2 lying shits are birds of a feather. I’d say them, but W is pretty close with Obama.


LasVegasE

The Republican and Democratic parties are not opposing parties, they are two factions of the same party with the only one purpose, to keep the rich and powerful American oligarchs rich and powerful American oligarchs.


Fun_Ad_2607

Andrew Jackson and Dwight D. Eisenhower


CreeperRussS

What


Fun_Ad_2607

Not one disagreement


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Federal_Debt

It was the devils bargain that Nixon warned about. Nixon absolutely hated that the Republican Party was beginning to court evangelicals. It was a divorce from the libertarian Goldwater/Milton Friedman part of the party that was strong in the 60s. Imagine a GOP that would have agreed with same sex unions in the 1970s as 1980s. Instead they fused with social conservatives.


Business-Lobster-442

Reagan - Bush - Clinton all worked together smuggling cocaine into the country. I’m sure that formed a bond. Drug kingpins have something in common


Wonderful-Poetry1259

Opposing parties my ass. Both a couple of disgusting NeoLiberals.