That episode was not out of place at all if you understand the very simple premise of the show
That episode spells it out for you
When placed in primal conditions, all men revert to their most primal nature
It doesn't matter what year if is. It doesn't matter what your formal education is. Man is primal.
Thank you, haven't seen this much and though the same thing, seems to be a preview of how they wanted to do the show in season 3, with thematic short stories filling out an idea in a 22 minute format
THIS!
The main characters should be kept. And the main story should be centered around them. But, there should be more of these episodes where it shows otherwise calm and sophisticated people (or beings) locked in a battle of survival, just to show their primal instincts.
Yes, but the rest of the show portrayed those themes masterfully without any dialogue, this just feels like a redundant catch up episode for people who somehow missed it
I really didn't take it that way at all.
It felt... like he was taking an artistic breath for dramatic effect. But not without point or meaning
The red Mist was this huge important episode. We were all so freaking excited for where it was all going. We see them vulnerable and fierce.
And then it's like: pause! Yah. It's about them. But it's not. You can take the core aspects of this show and throw them at any point in time, with any man from any walk of life, and the core themes apply... here, let me show you...
And now back to the main event!!!
Bro we see dinosaur interacting with cavemen interacting with vikings interacting with Egyptians interacting with medieval. I don't think it's as simple as past and future lmao
Well it is. If the show said 700 BC would that mean anything? They're already playing fast and loose with history so it's not like you'd go "wait the vikings weren't around until 50 AD, this show is completely unrealistic, how can i watch it now?".
The only time periods you need to know are past and future, so that is all the show gives you.
There is no time period where the vikings, sea people, neanderthals and dinosaurs overlapped.
It is not a real reflection of history, it is a grab bag of various periods in history smashed together with the only connection being thematically; they are all ancient, savage and, in a word, 'primal".
This even applies to episode 2x05, which despite being more modern is still in a rough analogue to Victorian period, as that represents a civilized veneer over a brutal, blood soaked civilization, which matches the thesis of the episode; that humans are still the same brutal species as spear and our societal manners being just a luxury that will be abandoned when times become desperate.
There are episodes in the past and there is one episode in the "not quite as past" (which I called the future for the sake of simplicity).
The story is deliberately minimalist and only tells you what you absolutely need to know. This includes the time periods. Most are in the past, one is in the future. That is it.
Sure, but those are mostly vague eras, I mention sea peoples specifically, because their range of existence is around half a century. They form a distinctly precise point of ancient history, meanwhile it doesn’t match with the rest of course.
Maybe it’s not too good of a comparison, because yes Primal is deliberately vague. It’s like The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, are there a lot of anachronisms, but that doesn’t mean the story doesn’t distinctly point towards it being set in 1862 specifically.
It is though… Because it just is. Why are you over complicating it for yourself. Is this post bait or something to farm negative karma? Did you watch the episode/the entire show?
I agree, it def was filler. Would have been a good post show episode, the theme goes well with the series and would have tied the overall message together well
Still can't believe we got this Ep instead of a two part finale.
When I rewatch the series I stop at the end of S1. It was so much better as a monster of the week format.
I honestly think that the episodic format worked great, i don't really mind the monster of the week format, but for me the overarching story always takes the cake. Same happened to supernatural while I was watching that
They had 10 episodes but this and the colossus arc were put in there which all amounted to nothing and then we got the rushed finale that could have benefitted form the four episodes of wasted time we got.
Primal Theory just bangs you over the head with themes that the rest of the show gave us without using any dialogue. Basically that episode is the antithesis of what Primal was up until that point.
If you can’t tell I’m not a fan of this episode, and if it really is a sneak peek as to what we will get going forward count me out.
I liked the episode, and it also forced me to reshape my suspension of disbelief in a way I don’t think I ever felt super settled into. Something about identifying “England 1890” as the setting of the el made me no longer able to think about the rest of the show taking place in a fantasy/pulp version of a vaguely prehistoric (and in the case of some of the cultures we saw, historic) past.
So, I wouldn’t say out of place—I think it fits the show’s thesis—but definitely jarring in a way. I also was invested the season 1 Primal setting, so I was mildly disappointed with how far season 2 was moving away from that in general.
You are right in a way, it did feel out of place because we were all expecting to see what happens next after they sail away instead we had to wait another week, it's like what they did with south park with that two part episode about the identity of cartmans father instead of part two they showed that terrance and phillip story.
Regardless i loved the Primal theory episode and since Season 3 will be an Anthology series i really hope we get to see the return of those characters again, Darwin, Darlington, Blakely.
That episode was not out of place at all if you understand the very simple premise of the show That episode spells it out for you When placed in primal conditions, all men revert to their most primal nature It doesn't matter what year if is. It doesn't matter what your formal education is. Man is primal.
Idk why people have a problem with the episode, it's like the whole point of the show. To show us our primal instincts and how we still have them.
Thank you, haven't seen this much and though the same thing, seems to be a preview of how they wanted to do the show in season 3, with thematic short stories filling out an idea in a 22 minute format
THIS! The main characters should be kept. And the main story should be centered around them. But, there should be more of these episodes where it shows otherwise calm and sophisticated people (or beings) locked in a battle of survival, just to show their primal instincts.
Yes, but the rest of the show portrayed those themes masterfully without any dialogue, this just feels like a redundant catch up episode for people who somehow missed it
I really didn't take it that way at all. It felt... like he was taking an artistic breath for dramatic effect. But not without point or meaning The red Mist was this huge important episode. We were all so freaking excited for where it was all going. We see them vulnerable and fierce. And then it's like: pause! Yah. It's about them. But it's not. You can take the core aspects of this show and throw them at any point in time, with any man from any walk of life, and the core themes apply... here, let me show you... And now back to the main event!!!
People like the OP?
Thats the american audience for you
Hah! Hey! I'm 'merican! Fuck yah! No... you're right lol
The show takes place in the past, the episode takes place in the future. It's literally as simple as that
Bro we see dinosaur interacting with cavemen interacting with vikings interacting with Egyptians interacting with medieval. I don't think it's as simple as past and future lmao
Well it is. If the show said 700 BC would that mean anything? They're already playing fast and loose with history so it's not like you'd go "wait the vikings weren't around until 50 AD, this show is completely unrealistic, how can i watch it now?". The only time periods you need to know are past and future, so that is all the show gives you.
The most obvious assumption would be early 12th century BC, judging by the existence of the sea peoples plundering everyone
There is no time period where the vikings, sea people, neanderthals and dinosaurs overlapped. It is not a real reflection of history, it is a grab bag of various periods in history smashed together with the only connection being thematically; they are all ancient, savage and, in a word, 'primal". This even applies to episode 2x05, which despite being more modern is still in a rough analogue to Victorian period, as that represents a civilized veneer over a brutal, blood soaked civilization, which matches the thesis of the episode; that humans are still the same brutal species as spear and our societal manners being just a luxury that will be abandoned when times become desperate. There are episodes in the past and there is one episode in the "not quite as past" (which I called the future for the sake of simplicity). The story is deliberately minimalist and only tells you what you absolutely need to know. This includes the time periods. Most are in the past, one is in the future. That is it.
Sure, but those are mostly vague eras, I mention sea peoples specifically, because their range of existence is around half a century. They form a distinctly precise point of ancient history, meanwhile it doesn’t match with the rest of course. Maybe it’s not too good of a comparison, because yes Primal is deliberately vague. It’s like The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, are there a lot of anachronisms, but that doesn’t mean the story doesn’t distinctly point towards it being set in 1862 specifically.
It is a made up history. There is no time period that matches it.
It is though… Because it just is. Why are you over complicating it for yourself. Is this post bait or something to farm negative karma? Did you watch the episode/the entire show?
I thought this episode was good until I realized it probably contributed to the poor pacing of the finale by taking up an episode slot
I agree, it def was filler. Would have been a good post show episode, the theme goes well with the series and would have tied the overall message together well
Still can't believe we got this Ep instead of a two part finale. When I rewatch the series I stop at the end of S1. It was so much better as a monster of the week format.
I honestly think that the episodic format worked great, i don't really mind the monster of the week format, but for me the overarching story always takes the cake. Same happened to supernatural while I was watching that
I don’t know how this show ends because S2E5 was so jarring and redundant that I stopped watching.
They had 10 episodes but this and the colossus arc were put in there which all amounted to nothing and then we got the rushed finale that could have benefitted form the four episodes of wasted time we got. Primal Theory just bangs you over the head with themes that the rest of the show gave us without using any dialogue. Basically that episode is the antithesis of what Primal was up until that point. If you can’t tell I’m not a fan of this episode, and if it really is a sneak peek as to what we will get going forward count me out.
It's fine as an attempt to have Primal as an anthology series. But I really didn't care for it and it felt quite pointless.
I guess it way the show's own way of discussing why Spear did what he did
I don't know about anyone else but I needed the break. My stress for Spear & Fang was through the roof.
I liked the episode, and it also forced me to reshape my suspension of disbelief in a way I don’t think I ever felt super settled into. Something about identifying “England 1890” as the setting of the el made me no longer able to think about the rest of the show taking place in a fantasy/pulp version of a vaguely prehistoric (and in the case of some of the cultures we saw, historic) past. So, I wouldn’t say out of place—I think it fits the show’s thesis—but definitely jarring in a way. I also was invested the season 1 Primal setting, so I was mildly disappointed with how far season 2 was moving away from that in general.
You are right in a way, it did feel out of place because we were all expecting to see what happens next after they sail away instead we had to wait another week, it's like what they did with south park with that two part episode about the identity of cartmans father instead of part two they showed that terrance and phillip story. Regardless i loved the Primal theory episode and since Season 3 will be an Anthology series i really hope we get to see the return of those characters again, Darwin, Darlington, Blakely.