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I got followed home once by a cop. No lights. Just waited until I parked and pulled up behind me. He said someone reported me for driving with a beer. Suddenly 3 more squad cars pull up, and I have to do a sobriety test. All my neighbors were watching. It was embarrassing and frustrating.
Legal pro tip - in most states you don't *have* to do a field sobriety test. My general advice is to politely say you don't do field sobriety tests but are happy to do a Breathalyzer.
If you think there's a chance you won't pass the Breathalyzer (and in many states "pass" does not actually mean blow below 0.08 - more at the bottom) you're presented with really two options - give the Breathalyzer and roll the dice, or refuse the Breathalyzer and likely face immediate license suspension and *still* potentially be forced to take Breathalyzer/blood draw when the cop seeks a search warrant (that they'll probably get anyways).
Absent conflicting state law, always reject the initial field sobriety test for the Breathalyzer. *Never* try to take the field sobriety test with hopes of rejecting the subsequent Breathalzyer - you're being asked to take the field sobriety test so the officers can observe you and gather evidence of intoxication, if you do the test and they request a Breathalyzer they're doing it because they think they have that and will just seek a search warrant if you refuse.
That last bit feeds into the overall reason you don't want to do a field sobriety test at all and why many people end up getting DUIs after they mistakenly believe they would get off for blowing below a 0.08: many states/counties have *two* parallel DUI statutes that the cops will file your charges under, both usually applicable to the same incident:
1. One of these will be what is called a "per se" statute - this is usually the 0.08 standard people are thinking of . This is a relatively easy case for the state - they just need to prove you operated a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol over that % to secure conviction.
2. The other will be be based on some sort of impairment standard. Under this version of the statute, the prosecutor needs to prove that you operated a motor vehicle *while impaired*. This is more nebulous and typically proven by testimony - statements about the defendant's driving, demeanor, etc. This is where your field sobriety test can screw you even if you blow below 0.08 - you're basically letting someone who will only ever testify *against you* stand there and observe you doing questionably accurate medical/scientific tests to assess that impairment.
Last thing I'll say - you'll definitely hear stories of people doing the field sobriety test (maybe even after drinking!) and being let go by cops without a Breathalyzer or follow-up. It obviously happens, really a situational thing for people to feel out for themselves, but thought people would appreciate the legal background there.
I was pulled over for suspected DUI while completely sober. I did the FSTs as I knew I was sober. The officer claimed I did not pass and offered me the breathylizer. Again, knowing I was sober I complied. The officer claimed to have smelled marijuana on my breath and arrested me for DUID despite blowing 0.00. I was taken to a hospital for blood tests and then to jail.
I had to spend thousands in lawyer fees to fight being sober while driving.
Your advice is excellent, but a dirty cop can always circumvent due process. The system is to easily exploited by dirty cops.
I agree that the cop is fucked and you get fucked at the time, but a lawyer should’ve easily been able to dismiss that case. A police officer can’t keep fishing for DUI reasons and as soon as they do a road side breathalyzer which reads 0 and THEN he tags you for weed is a big no-no. It essentially proves in court that the officer didn’t have enough information/experience and is just randomly grabbing at things. He can’t do a bunch of tests for alcohol without supplying a reason for doing so and as soon as he switched from alcohol to drug impairment his case goes out the window since the basis for the stop will then have to keep changing. Sorry that happened to you.
The legal system sucks for lawyers and how it’s set up. It’s so convoluted at this point that the common person has no way to reliably defend themselves and hiring a lawyer isn’t cheap by any means. You get screwed in so many ways even if innocent
You’re absolutely correct. This is the system as it has been designed to operate. The police officers have many tricks and loopholes that they employ in their favor.
The breath test is meant to measure the presence of alcohol on your breath. It is not a fishing rod for the officer to investigate the odors he “believes he perceives” to be emitted from your lungs while attempting to measure your blood alcohol content on the side of a highway.
In reality they use these tools as subterfuge to violate our rights. They can see a person who looks a certain way or has certain things on their history, and invent reasons to pull them over. Once detained they can use any of the motorist’s statements or actions to dictate a narrative in their report that justifies contacting them or running their plates.
The simple fact is that even with video documentation, it is very difficult for an average American civilian who is not on city payroll to defend themselves against false police allegations or profiling by racist, or otherwise dirty police officers.
I’m not evening going to get started on qualified immunity and how easily they get rehired by other departments after terminations.
100% never take a breathalyzer without swishing your mouth out with water, even if you are under the limit mouth alcohol and even sugar or other foods/drinks can cause a very high result in those machines.
What entails a field sobriety test? Is the "recite the alphabet backwards" an actual thing, or just a tv/movie trope? I've never been pulled over for more than a speeding ticket, and it's always been a minor fear of mine because I wouldn't be able to do it when stone sober and wide awake lol.
If I recall correctly, the standard battery of field sobriety tests are just the horizontal gaze nystagmus test (where they have you follow the flashlight with your eyes), the walk and turn test, and a one-leg stand. Each of those has some sort of medical basis for intoxication they're looking for when they make you do it. Reciting the alphabet backwards I think is just something that helps them point to slurred speech or impaired memory.
They also have you stand feet together, arms straight out at your sides so you form a “t” and close your eyes, tilt your head back and bending at the elbow, but keeping your arm straight, touch your nose. Supposedly an intoxicated person can not do this.
The straight line and turn walk, the gaze test, those are looking for inability to complete the test with agility. But they are also looking if you can follow directions.
I have adhd, part of my coping mechanism is to repeat back requests and commands to the person giving them so that I can be sure I grasp their request properly. Police accused me of stalling or attempting yo delay my responses.
If they want to get you they will. Now I give the license and insurance and I don’t talk. If they ask me questions about my travels I say “it’s personal, I’d rather not answer questions”, or “I’d like to excercise my right to remain silent”.
If they suspected someone of drinking and driving, which would be dangerous driving, they should immediately pull the person over and determine whether it is safe for them to be behind the wheel. Allowing someone you think is drunk driving to complete their journey is nonsensical.
Sounds like good old fashioned police harassment.
Also ammunition for a defense lawyer.
Oh so you thought he was dangerous drunk driving but you followed him and let him drive his car, so he mustn't have been that dangerous.
Man my dad would tell me stories of getting pulled over as a drunk teen and the cops following him home to make sure he got there alright. As much is its also a perversion of protect and serve (cause he still could have hit someone) they weren't looking to "get" anyone, just keep the peace
I'm British.
I got followed for a mile by a police car, they took every turn I took, always stayed behind me, and then they just turned off and vanished.
Later after telling a friend I was told they followed me bacuse I was in a "boy racer" car so at a higher likelyhood of speeding or dangerous driving.
Talk about profiling. They're doing it on cars now 🤦♂️
My only guess is they ran the tags hoping to arrest him for something, but nothing came up and they didn’t want to admit that. Orrrr they are trying to set him up and called quits when they saw his camera.
Usually they run the tags when you're on the road and doesn't it take like less than 2 Minutes? Driving into the lot after him and surrounding him isn't needed.
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They wanted him to panic, to speed away. Then they would have pulled him over.
I really hope...
Oh who the fuck are we kidding. Nothing happened to those cops.
I posted that billboard to another thread. Driving through there this weekend. White, but I make sure I have enough gas to get through that nasty town.
Some teens showed BLM support there the summer prior, they are far more brave than anyone I know. And they recorded it.
There’s a YouTube video of a guy standing in the Walmart parking lot there holding a BLM sign and of all the hate reactions he got. It would be shocking if it weren’t America.
Edit: I forgot the important part
Oh america, I love you, but you got some issues. Heard a televangelist talking about how god put different races on different continents, ergo he didn't want them mixing. [Sadly now he has covid, he is also anti-mask, anti-vax. God does work in mysterious ways.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/right-wing-pastor-gets-covid-after-saying-vaccines-were-part-n1269321)
The way they patronisingly speak to him is infuriating.
"Thank you so much, sir."
"Yup and you're free to leave whenever you want."
"Thank you, sir, thank you so much."
I just did a job in a sundown town in Texas called Weatherford, about an hour outside of Ft Worth. I also did a job in a sundown town in Missouri. Absolutely as bad as you think they are.
There’s one near the Ozarks as well. Kicking myself for forgetting the name of it. But there was a viral video of a black family running out of gas there and they were getting a bunch of looks. One and I imagine the only normal person there told them what happens in the town at night and that it could be dangerous for them if they stay there. He apologized for his local people’s behavior and the family ended up driving away safely.
It left out the most creepy part: Some of them had air raid horns that would play to notify black folks it was time to leave. My friend has family in a sun down town in Arizona and they are just now decommissioning and taking down the sirens.
So... it's basically the game Dying Light but instead of zombies, it's racist local and cops.
Hope you got your UV light ready and a safe house nearby!
There's a great scene in the show Lovecraft Country that I can only describe as a low-speed car chase--they're driving through the sundown town while being followed, they need to get out before it gets dark but they can't speed so they drive exactly the limit while watching the sun go down and it's surprisingly intense.
Honestly, I didn't finish the last two episodes for the same reason. I enjoyed it but it kind of went off the rails. The great parts were truly great, though.
Just going to leave this here as a reminder of what the GQP stands for and promotes.
2024 ELECTIONS
'America is not racist' becomes a GOP 2024 mantra
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/28/gop-primary-america-racist-2024-500680
I feel like [this scene from Lovecraft Country](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gOxLNWVm4w) does a decent enough job of explaining it and just how terrifying it must've been.
Yeah, I learned both about sundown towns and Tulsa due to television shows. History class was shit, but if you try and teach that stuff now, you will be accused of teaching CRT.
That is why we have to regularly have “the talk” with our children. I learned about Tulsa and sundown towns from my parents. What is worst is their experience being chosen as the first wave of students to be integrated. I don’t understand how folks can say racism doesn’t exist when my parents first hand witnessed Jim Crow, and and that their parents actually knew living family members that were slaves. Just because laws are created to negate American apartheid and slavery, it doesn’t mean the mentality that caused all of it was completely flushed out of our society.
No no no. Its GOOD you know they exist. Too many things things get to go by us simply bwcause we had no idea. Sundown towns suck dick. Im ok with their inbred population dying of the plague.
I've been in one of these towns for a while. It isn't quite the same as the old days, but I know there's definitely still some generational racists here. Few black people come here outside of stopping to fill up at the gas station/going to a place of business.
Latinos have restaurants here that are pretty well received.
No Asians here.
Never seen anyone get harassed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
I just suspect that most of the people that were willing to do something have died off by now. Just my 2 cents as someone who has observed one of these towns for like 6 years.
Can't have fajitas and margheritas without your Latinos lol. Glad your town isn't so bad. I'm a white guy that used to have long hair and facial piercings. I can't tell you the number of towns I've been stared out of, or tailed by the local cops. Just for being different.
It’s means don’t be out and about after dark if you are brown or black. It use to mean you would get lynched but now it means the police or some racist might catch you slipping
You can even hear OP saying he was being followed by the sheriff for no reason, got his tags ran and called for back up. They were totally waiting for him to slip up, go 26 in a 25, not come to a complete stop and count to two at a stop sign, anything.
You can also hear the destain in the officers saying he's free to go.
That is so fucked up man that people do that to another for a simple difference as colour. I can’t wrap my brain around racism and why people think it’s acceptable. We all the same!!
Talked to any racists? Like just asked them about their views? Sometimes it's lack of experience with different people. Sometimes a bad experience but generally just some bullshit passed down in families like a crockpot or something. Bigotry and hate aren't hard to understand and that's all racism is.
Racist all-white towns that use intimidation to keep black folks from living there.
They’re called sundown towns because if you are black and stay after sunset, then the cops will harass the hell out of you.
Yeahhhh that’s the vibe I got but didn’t know if I missed something else. Mannnn American cops… tbh I don’t know if other cops act like this either.. only run in with the police I had was when I was involved in a RTC
The answer to what happened is that the guy pulled out a Camera to record the situation which thwarted all the cops attempts to violate his rights. It was going to be a normal, let's violate this black person's rights situation because we suspect he's up to no good.
The cop then simply wanted the black guy to leave the area although he had every right to be there. Think of it as kicking a guy out by intimidating him for being in their presence. Once that didn't work and the cop couldn't reveal the real reason for them being there since it's illegal l, he gave the suggestion to his partner that they should leave.
They would have happily stood there in an intimidating fashion, where they double fucked up is how they parked their cars. It gave the viewer more than enough reasons to what was happening and the African American was right to use that as leverage to explain themselves.
It’s an antiquated “rule” where if you ass is black and out after sundown? It’s the Wild West out there for you.
It’s sickening. Really worth reading the history of these places and reading about the current towns who still abide by this way of life.
All-white communities that all but openly discriminate, intimidate, and harass people of color, especially black people. The "sundown" part is a reference to how any black person in these towns after dark was at risk of being lynched, though that doesn't happen anymore. Usually.
With the way things are going in this country, I wouldn't be surprised if lynching starts again. I hope it doesn't, but these fuckers are bold these days.
I would be terrified to leave or to stay. Their behavior is strange and it doesn’t seem like there is a single right answer. It’s clear that their intent is to intimidate this man but what’s next? A thousand thoughts must be racing through his mind of how could things go wrong if he drives away as well as if he doesn’t. He has no one to call for help. No safety.
Right. With the rain and all. Like this is kind of how in every movie the victim gets murdered then thrown in a river. I would've feared for my life too, cops are just standing there... No orders, no chat... Backup arrives.... Soo eerie.
There is something super creepy and errie about this. That cop doesn't even sound human! I feel like him taking out his phone to record saved his life. You can hear how nervous he sounds, poor guy
This is terrorism.
This is police who know that had this kid made one wrong move they could kill him and say it was self defense. They intimidated a young man for what purpose other than to instill terror in him and every young person like him.
This video needs to be on every single news website worth its salt as soon as possible. Look what happens when the cop's plan doesn't go quite so well. The cop made the same face a friend of mine did when he almost shot a buck. It is the thrill of the hunt and its fucking sick that its people hunting people now. Don't we have better things to do than stir up trouble?
They really wanted to do something. I think what deterred them was the phone and the fact that this guy handle himself pretty well. Didn't panic or acted aggressive. God this is so fucking scary ....
He got out of the car and walked to him. Ran his plates because they shined the light on it.
Backup came, plates came up clean, so they acted like oh we are just hanging out.
Just straight up bullshit. Messing with people and their lives. Cops only cause people in cars stress, money loss, and can use power at anytime to fuck your life up for no reason .
They probably saw he was clean after running the plates, doesn’t mean that they can’t still harass him anyways like they did.. passive harassment.. that’s a new one to me
This is fucking scary. “You’re free to go” well why the fuck are you surrounding him? This is very odd. This should be against the law like this is some kind of intimidation or something. How is this “protecting and serving”??????
Because these small town police are the heroes of their shitty little small towns. Everyone knows each other and protects each other which makes it hard for “outsiders”
That’s fucking stupid. It’s supposed to be the land of the free. You’re supposed to be able to freely travel without being harassed. I guess not in that piece of shit town tho.
There's no internal affairs at this podunk sheriff's office. It's Jean at the front desk, and she'll give him a cookie and thank him for making sure it didn't stay too "dark" outside. I've never seen an IGA that wasn't in a small town in the middle of nowhere.
The cop did not break the law. Being creepy af, following someone who hasn’t broken any law, running plates for any car you can see, and speaking like a serial killer in a B movie are legal.
Right and legal are different things.
100% sure he's doing that voice on purpose to try and gain a reaction out of him. These cops were almost foaming at the mouth for an opportunity to arrest or kill him.
When I was sixteen, I had a little red sports car. Saved my allowance as a kid, worked summers doing yard work, got a real job at a car wash summer before. Maybe that’s an unnecessary detail…
One night, I drove from my mom’s house to my dad’s house kinda late at night (11ish). Their houses were exactly six blocks away from each other. When I stopped in front of dad’s house, a cruiser pulled up behind me, no lights. I wasn’t sure what to do, cause I was a new driver and also I was halfway standing up outta the car… so I sorta sat back down with the door open and my legs out, feet on the pavement. lol. This really young rookie looking cop gets out and says hey in a weird voice and asks if I’ve been drinking. I said no… my sister was in the house, she opened the front door and called out asking if there was a problem, saying she’d just called me to come over, trying to help out.
He asked me three more times if I’d been drinking, I just kept saying no. At that time I’d never even tried alcohol. He never gave me a sobriety test. Eventually he said okay and I said …okay… and just slowly got up and walked into the house, while stared at me and then eventually he went back to his cruiser and stayed parked there with the car running for a long time after, as I looked out the window.
To date I can’t think of what I could’ve done to draw his attention. I mean, I was only on the road six blocks, never got above like 30 mph. And also he was just so weird about it…
I got pulled over so much in that car, even when I thought I was driving perfectly… eventually I sold it and got a boring looking truck and that helped a lot. Still though… wtf?
They were hoping for an excuse to impound the car, seize it through civil forfeiture, sell it off at auction, and pocket the revenue. After all, you’re a young kid with a brand new fast car, clearly you’re going to be irresponsible with it, right? Just keeping the roads safe is all...
Super suspicious... good on this guy to cover his ass and film.
They pulled in and parked like it was a high risk stop, minus the lights... this looks like harassment to me.
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I mean this is a perfect example of what cops are intended to do.
Policing in america has one purpose. To escalate situations into ticketable/arrestable offenses. -everyone- becomes agitated when they're pulled over, its just a matter of range. From being a little nervous and having your heart rate increased, to sheer fucking panic. Thats exactly what these two were looking for, a nervous guy they could bully/intimidate into saying/doing something stupid and making an arrest out of nothing. That is all they are concerned with.
I found the way he said that to be terrifying. He started off sounding perfectly genuine, giving his name and badge number. Then the mask eventually slipped. That "thank you, so much. You're also free to stay!" was so insidious.
I recently learned what a "sundown town" was and that there was one here in Nevada - the town of Minden - that discriminates against indigenous persons. For many years the town board and county commissioners, all of them white, refused to get rid of the Minden sundown siren, stating that it was nothing more than a quaint practice of yesteryear. Last year the state Legislature stepped in and banned the practice. Thank goodness.
And that's all one needs to know about Minden, Nevada. It's a racist MAGA cesspool.
https://newrepublic.com/article/162425/sundown-town-racism-indigenous-discrimination-nevada
I'm not even American, on a completely different continent and this shit makes me embarrassed.
Not even cause I share a similar skin tone to this cop, but for the fact I once supported cops in general.
How can anything change in America when this sort of shit happens?
Im scared for my world as we tend to follow the USA in most trends
It won't change unless you change the education system. The us is known to have a dogshit education system that's riddled with outdated practices and they try instill a strong patriotic sense of American exceptionalism.
I don't care what color you are either nothing about this situation would make you feel anything less.
Not one but 2 squads focused on you and no ones even pulled you over yet? Yet they're happy to hit you with the spot light? I'd be 100% convinced they were plotting, doesn't take that long to run plates. Certainly don't need 2 cars to do it either.
I'm pasty, irish white and this would terrify the fuck out of me. Even the end with "you're free to go" with such distain and vile in their voice; I'd be worried they'd be planning something like to arresting me for not signalling as I pulled out of the parking spot, going the wrong way down the parking lot (Because the cop was blocking the right way), or just SOMETHING.
This is out of a bad movie, what in the flying fuck is going on here?
They think they can just roll up on someone and just because they don't have their lights on or aren't trying to detain or question him that it's not intimidating or suspicious?
OMG, the psychopathic gaslighting to act like there isn't anything going on and he's just "free to go," like having an officer tail you, light you up, call for backup isn't happening around him. Infuriating.
This is in Camano, Washington. Not a "sundown town." Racism and racial stereotyping exist all across the US and aren't localized to just sundown towns or the southern US and this kind of thing can happen anywhere. Just thought this was important to note.
Yeah I live ‘round zones here. Police chasing people for no reason is common. Sometimes may be for actual reasons, but I’ve gotten pulled over several times for no reason as well.
Anyone watching this thinking what's the big deal needs to realize it is not unheard of for the person in this situation to wind up dead, and this is a gross violation by the cops.
HOLY CRAP
Sooo wierd...
As he's moving the video around showing IGA, I'm like "hey, that looks like the one right by my house". Then the Subway right by it, and then the bar at the end of that. I'm waiting for him to move the video behind him and sure enough.. the Remax.
This is on Camano Island! Small, rural town in Washington state north of Seattle. Definitely pretty white. So fucking wierd to see 1 minute from where I live on Reddit lol.
While I do think the driver shoulda left asap, the cops shouldn't have hanged up on him like that. For the most part, the cops here are pretty chill but can be dicks. They don't have much to do so obviously the cop was probably following him one hopes he'd drive a bit above the speed limit. That Adams cop is 👎
Stanwood/Camano police department
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I got followed home once by a cop. No lights. Just waited until I parked and pulled up behind me. He said someone reported me for driving with a beer. Suddenly 3 more squad cars pull up, and I have to do a sobriety test. All my neighbors were watching. It was embarrassing and frustrating.
Legal pro tip - in most states you don't *have* to do a field sobriety test. My general advice is to politely say you don't do field sobriety tests but are happy to do a Breathalyzer. If you think there's a chance you won't pass the Breathalyzer (and in many states "pass" does not actually mean blow below 0.08 - more at the bottom) you're presented with really two options - give the Breathalyzer and roll the dice, or refuse the Breathalyzer and likely face immediate license suspension and *still* potentially be forced to take Breathalyzer/blood draw when the cop seeks a search warrant (that they'll probably get anyways). Absent conflicting state law, always reject the initial field sobriety test for the Breathalyzer. *Never* try to take the field sobriety test with hopes of rejecting the subsequent Breathalzyer - you're being asked to take the field sobriety test so the officers can observe you and gather evidence of intoxication, if you do the test and they request a Breathalyzer they're doing it because they think they have that and will just seek a search warrant if you refuse. That last bit feeds into the overall reason you don't want to do a field sobriety test at all and why many people end up getting DUIs after they mistakenly believe they would get off for blowing below a 0.08: many states/counties have *two* parallel DUI statutes that the cops will file your charges under, both usually applicable to the same incident: 1. One of these will be what is called a "per se" statute - this is usually the 0.08 standard people are thinking of . This is a relatively easy case for the state - they just need to prove you operated a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol over that % to secure conviction. 2. The other will be be based on some sort of impairment standard. Under this version of the statute, the prosecutor needs to prove that you operated a motor vehicle *while impaired*. This is more nebulous and typically proven by testimony - statements about the defendant's driving, demeanor, etc. This is where your field sobriety test can screw you even if you blow below 0.08 - you're basically letting someone who will only ever testify *against you* stand there and observe you doing questionably accurate medical/scientific tests to assess that impairment. Last thing I'll say - you'll definitely hear stories of people doing the field sobriety test (maybe even after drinking!) and being let go by cops without a Breathalyzer or follow-up. It obviously happens, really a situational thing for people to feel out for themselves, but thought people would appreciate the legal background there.
I was pulled over for suspected DUI while completely sober. I did the FSTs as I knew I was sober. The officer claimed I did not pass and offered me the breathylizer. Again, knowing I was sober I complied. The officer claimed to have smelled marijuana on my breath and arrested me for DUID despite blowing 0.00. I was taken to a hospital for blood tests and then to jail. I had to spend thousands in lawyer fees to fight being sober while driving. Your advice is excellent, but a dirty cop can always circumvent due process. The system is to easily exploited by dirty cops.
I agree that the cop is fucked and you get fucked at the time, but a lawyer should’ve easily been able to dismiss that case. A police officer can’t keep fishing for DUI reasons and as soon as they do a road side breathalyzer which reads 0 and THEN he tags you for weed is a big no-no. It essentially proves in court that the officer didn’t have enough information/experience and is just randomly grabbing at things. He can’t do a bunch of tests for alcohol without supplying a reason for doing so and as soon as he switched from alcohol to drug impairment his case goes out the window since the basis for the stop will then have to keep changing. Sorry that happened to you.
I was young and naive. I chose a “cheap” lawyer over a good one. I appreciate your empathy.
The legal system sucks for lawyers and how it’s set up. It’s so convoluted at this point that the common person has no way to reliably defend themselves and hiring a lawyer isn’t cheap by any means. You get screwed in so many ways even if innocent
Lawyer fees should always be awarded to the defendant if he's exonerated in any criminal case. That's my opinion.
> a dirty cop can always circumvent due process. It's more accurate to say this *is* "due process", and that our legal system is completely fucked.
You’re absolutely correct. This is the system as it has been designed to operate. The police officers have many tricks and loopholes that they employ in their favor. The breath test is meant to measure the presence of alcohol on your breath. It is not a fishing rod for the officer to investigate the odors he “believes he perceives” to be emitted from your lungs while attempting to measure your blood alcohol content on the side of a highway. In reality they use these tools as subterfuge to violate our rights. They can see a person who looks a certain way or has certain things on their history, and invent reasons to pull them over. Once detained they can use any of the motorist’s statements or actions to dictate a narrative in their report that justifies contacting them or running their plates. The simple fact is that even with video documentation, it is very difficult for an average American civilian who is not on city payroll to defend themselves against false police allegations or profiling by racist, or otherwise dirty police officers. I’m not evening going to get started on qualified immunity and how easily they get rehired by other departments after terminations.
100% never take a breathalyzer without swishing your mouth out with water, even if you are under the limit mouth alcohol and even sugar or other foods/drinks can cause a very high result in those machines.
What entails a field sobriety test? Is the "recite the alphabet backwards" an actual thing, or just a tv/movie trope? I've never been pulled over for more than a speeding ticket, and it's always been a minor fear of mine because I wouldn't be able to do it when stone sober and wide awake lol.
If I recall correctly, the standard battery of field sobriety tests are just the horizontal gaze nystagmus test (where they have you follow the flashlight with your eyes), the walk and turn test, and a one-leg stand. Each of those has some sort of medical basis for intoxication they're looking for when they make you do it. Reciting the alphabet backwards I think is just something that helps them point to slurred speech or impaired memory.
They also have you stand feet together, arms straight out at your sides so you form a “t” and close your eyes, tilt your head back and bending at the elbow, but keeping your arm straight, touch your nose. Supposedly an intoxicated person can not do this. The straight line and turn walk, the gaze test, those are looking for inability to complete the test with agility. But they are also looking if you can follow directions. I have adhd, part of my coping mechanism is to repeat back requests and commands to the person giving them so that I can be sure I grasp their request properly. Police accused me of stalling or attempting yo delay my responses. If they want to get you they will. Now I give the license and insurance and I don’t talk. If they ask me questions about my travels I say “it’s personal, I’d rather not answer questions”, or “I’d like to excercise my right to remain silent”.
So dumb, you’ve already made it, why even bother you?
If they suspected someone of drinking and driving, which would be dangerous driving, they should immediately pull the person over and determine whether it is safe for them to be behind the wheel. Allowing someone you think is drunk driving to complete their journey is nonsensical. Sounds like good old fashioned police harassment.
Also ammunition for a defense lawyer. Oh so you thought he was dangerous drunk driving but you followed him and let him drive his car, so he mustn't have been that dangerous.
Man my dad would tell me stories of getting pulled over as a drunk teen and the cops following him home to make sure he got there alright. As much is its also a perversion of protect and serve (cause he still could have hit someone) they weren't looking to "get" anyone, just keep the peace
Your dad is white
Bingo
I'm British. I got followed for a mile by a police car, they took every turn I took, always stayed behind me, and then they just turned off and vanished. Later after telling a friend I was told they followed me bacuse I was in a "boy racer" car so at a higher likelyhood of speeding or dangerous driving. Talk about profiling. They're doing it on cars now 🤦♂️
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They’ve always done that with cars. If it looks fun or fast then it is a target.
My only guess is they ran the tags hoping to arrest him for something, but nothing came up and they didn’t want to admit that. Orrrr they are trying to set him up and called quits when they saw his camera.
Usually they run the tags when you're on the road and doesn't it take like less than 2 Minutes? Driving into the lot after him and surrounding him isn't needed.
What is a sundown town?
**Sundown towns, also known as sunset towns, gray towns, or sundowner towns, are all-white municipalities or neighborhoods in the United States that practice a form of racial segregation by excluding non-whites via some combination of discriminatory local laws, intimidation or violence. Entire sundown counties and sundown suburbs were also created by the same process.** More details here:
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Yes, Good Bot, but I hate that I live in a country where this exists. They wanted him to panic, to speed away. Then they would have pulled him over. I really hope... Oh who the fuck are we kidding. Nothing happened to those cops.
There was a town in Arkansas that up until the late 90's still had a sign "Ni@$%\^" don't let the sun set on your back"
Harrison, AR. Cesspool of scum.
Saw a white pride radio billboard a month ago. Was appalled that they were that outright with it.
I posted that billboard to another thread. Driving through there this weekend. White, but I make sure I have enough gas to get through that nasty town. Some teens showed BLM support there the summer prior, they are far more brave than anyone I know. And they recorded it.
What that town needs is a good old fashioned F5 tornado.
There’s a YouTube video of a guy standing in the Walmart parking lot there holding a BLM sign and of all the hate reactions he got. It would be shocking if it weren’t America. Edit: I forgot the important part
Oh america, I love you, but you got some issues. Heard a televangelist talking about how god put different races on different continents, ergo he didn't want them mixing. [Sadly now he has covid, he is also anti-mask, anti-vax. God does work in mysterious ways.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/right-wing-pastor-gets-covid-after-saying-vaccines-were-part-n1269321)
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In 50 years we’ll look back and realize we are still well within the Civil Rights era of America
The way they patronisingly speak to him is infuriating. "Thank you so much, sir." "Yup and you're free to leave whenever you want." "Thank you, sir, thank you so much."
Man sounds like a terminator trying to impersonate human conversation
I just did a job in a sundown town in Texas called Weatherford, about an hour outside of Ft Worth. I also did a job in a sundown town in Missouri. Absolutely as bad as you think they are.
There’s one near the Ozarks as well. Kicking myself for forgetting the name of it. But there was a viral video of a black family running out of gas there and they were getting a bunch of looks. One and I imagine the only normal person there told them what happens in the town at night and that it could be dangerous for them if they stay there. He apologized for his local people’s behavior and the family ended up driving away safely.
What the fuck
It left out the most creepy part: Some of them had air raid horns that would play to notify black folks it was time to leave. My friend has family in a sun down town in Arizona and they are just now decommissioning and taking down the sirens.
I can’t believe how much backwards shit still goes on in modern/“progressive” countries.
Watch the first episode of Lovecraft Country on HBO to really get a feel for it.
Also why green books exist. Being black can be pretty stressful.
So... it's basically the game Dying Light but instead of zombies, it's racist local and cops. Hope you got your UV light ready and a safe house nearby!
There's a great scene in the show Lovecraft Country that I can only describe as a low-speed car chase--they're driving through the sundown town while being followed, they need to get out before it gets dark but they can't speed so they drive exactly the limit while watching the sun go down and it's surprisingly intense.
This scene was intense. I didn't finish watching the show because it just was getting weird. Worth finishing?
Honestly, I didn't finish the last two episodes for the same reason. I enjoyed it but it kind of went off the rails. The great parts were truly great, though.
The bot's response was a very watered down version of what occurred in many sundown towns.
You can’t really blame the bot... that’s the wiki page and links you for more information. Very cool bot
yea, didnt mention the lynchings
Well that's fucking disgusting
Just going to leave this here as a reminder of what the GQP stands for and promotes. 2024 ELECTIONS 'America is not racist' becomes a GOP 2024 mantra https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/28/gop-primary-america-racist-2024-500680
America might not be racist but a lot of the people with power are
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I feel like [this scene from Lovecraft Country](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gOxLNWVm4w) does a decent enough job of explaining it and just how terrifying it must've been.
That's where I learned about sundown towns.
Did you learn about black wall street in The Watchmen? (Apparently millions did.)
Yeah, I learned both about sundown towns and Tulsa due to television shows. History class was shit, but if you try and teach that stuff now, you will be accused of teaching CRT.
That is why we have to regularly have “the talk” with our children. I learned about Tulsa and sundown towns from my parents. What is worst is their experience being chosen as the first wave of students to be integrated. I don’t understand how folks can say racism doesn’t exist when my parents first hand witnessed Jim Crow, and and that their parents actually knew living family members that were slaves. Just because laws are created to negate American apartheid and slavery, it doesn’t mean the mentality that caused all of it was completely flushed out of our society.
TIL about sundown towns and wish to hell I hadn't. That is absolutely horrifying.
And they still exist. They just can't legally do it, so they use intimidation like in the OP video.
No no no. Its GOOD you know they exist. Too many things things get to go by us simply bwcause we had no idea. Sundown towns suck dick. Im ok with their inbred population dying of the plague.
Bloody hell that's scary.
Honestly one of the most terrifying scenes. Love that show
It's essentially a place you don't want to be non white after dark. You will be followed/stalked, at minimum, untill you leave.
I've been in one of these towns for a while. It isn't quite the same as the old days, but I know there's definitely still some generational racists here. Few black people come here outside of stopping to fill up at the gas station/going to a place of business. Latinos have restaurants here that are pretty well received. No Asians here. Never seen anyone get harassed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I just suspect that most of the people that were willing to do something have died off by now. Just my 2 cents as someone who has observed one of these towns for like 6 years.
Can't have fajitas and margheritas without your Latinos lol. Glad your town isn't so bad. I'm a white guy that used to have long hair and facial piercings. I can't tell you the number of towns I've been stared out of, or tailed by the local cops. Just for being different.
It’s means don’t be out and about after dark if you are brown or black. It use to mean you would get lynched but now it means the police or some racist might catch you slipping
You can even hear OP saying he was being followed by the sheriff for no reason, got his tags ran and called for back up. They were totally waiting for him to slip up, go 26 in a 25, not come to a complete stop and count to two at a stop sign, anything. You can also hear the destain in the officers saying he's free to go.
Disdain loud and clear.
That is so fucked up man that people do that to another for a simple difference as colour. I can’t wrap my brain around racism and why people think it’s acceptable. We all the same!!
Talked to any racists? Like just asked them about their views? Sometimes it's lack of experience with different people. Sometimes a bad experience but generally just some bullshit passed down in families like a crockpot or something. Bigotry and hate aren't hard to understand and that's all racism is.
Racist all-white towns that use intimidation to keep black folks from living there. They’re called sundown towns because if you are black and stay after sunset, then the cops will harass the hell out of you.
I’m confused as to what’s going on? The cop says he’s free to go… but why be all suspicious n intimidating n stuff? Did I miss something?
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Yeahhhh that’s the vibe I got but didn’t know if I missed something else. Mannnn American cops… tbh I don’t know if other cops act like this either.. only run in with the police I had was when I was involved in a RTC
The answer to what happened is that the guy pulled out a Camera to record the situation which thwarted all the cops attempts to violate his rights. It was going to be a normal, let's violate this black person's rights situation because we suspect he's up to no good. The cop then simply wanted the black guy to leave the area although he had every right to be there. Think of it as kicking a guy out by intimidating him for being in their presence. Once that didn't work and the cop couldn't reveal the real reason for them being there since it's illegal l, he gave the suggestion to his partner that they should leave. They would have happily stood there in an intimidating fashion, where they double fucked up is how they parked their cars. It gave the viewer more than enough reasons to what was happening and the African American was right to use that as leverage to explain themselves.
he's trying to intimidate the black dude cause its a racist ass town and they don't want him to come back. creepy as fuck.
Towns where it's not safe for black people to be outside after sundown, due to racist cops, citizens, and or vigilantes.
Basically, if they catch me or one of my homies slipping after sundown…its curtains
It’s an antiquated “rule” where if you ass is black and out after sundown? It’s the Wild West out there for you. It’s sickening. Really worth reading the history of these places and reading about the current towns who still abide by this way of life.
I wouldn't feel comfortable in a sundown town even before sundown... and I'm white... I can't imagine what this guy must be going through.
^ this
I don't know what a sundown town is but I do know you can't trust a police officer anywhere on earth
All-white communities that all but openly discriminate, intimidate, and harass people of color, especially black people. The "sundown" part is a reference to how any black person in these towns after dark was at risk of being lynched, though that doesn't happen anymore. Usually.
With the way things are going in this country, I wouldn't be surprised if lynching starts again. I hope it doesn't, but these fuckers are bold these days.
Lynchings still happen, just not necessarily with rope. Google Ahmaud Arbery.
I was fucking scared just watching that. The cop that talked the most gave off serial killer or sociopath vibes. That's just... the fuck.
Weird, fucking condensing tone too.
“Thank you…so much.”
that and the "you're also free to stay" got me for some reason.. serious creeper "get out" vibes...
Reminded me of Lovecraft Country when they drive through a sundown town
I would be terrified to leave or to stay. Their behavior is strange and it doesn’t seem like there is a single right answer. It’s clear that their intent is to intimidate this man but what’s next? A thousand thoughts must be racing through his mind of how could things go wrong if he drives away as well as if he doesn’t. He has no one to call for help. No safety.
Probably was some form of sociopath judging by the way he was acting. Fucking creepy
Right. With the rain and all. Like this is kind of how in every movie the victim gets murdered then thrown in a river. I would've feared for my life too, cops are just standing there... No orders, no chat... Backup arrives.... Soo eerie.
Yeah the beginning was like horror movie.
It was a "fuck he is recording" smile.
Joseph diangelo was a cop while he was murdering people right?
There is something super creepy and errie about this. That cop doesn't even sound human! I feel like him taking out his phone to record saved his life. You can hear how nervous he sounds, poor guy
Literally ticks all the horror boxes •alone •at night •in the rain •outnumbered •guy following, approaches talking incredibly creepy
This is terrorism. This is police who know that had this kid made one wrong move they could kill him and say it was self defense. They intimidated a young man for what purpose other than to instill terror in him and every young person like him. This video needs to be on every single news website worth its salt as soon as possible. Look what happens when the cop's plan doesn't go quite so well. The cop made the same face a friend of mine did when he almost shot a buck. It is the thrill of the hunt and its fucking sick that its people hunting people now. Don't we have better things to do than stir up trouble?
💯
This isn’t his first racist rodeo
This could be a deleted scene from Get Out
“you’re also free to stay :)” made me physically cringe. wtf is this! what is wrong with these people!
They really wanted to do something. I think what deterred them was the phone and the fact that this guy handle himself pretty well. Didn't panic or acted aggressive. God this is so fucking scary ....
He got out of the car and walked to him. Ran his plates because they shined the light on it. Backup came, plates came up clean, so they acted like oh we are just hanging out. Just straight up bullshit. Messing with people and their lives. Cops only cause people in cars stress, money loss, and can use power at anytime to fuck your life up for no reason .
Also people outside of cars.
Fuck cops like this!
Fuck all cops. "Good" cops don't report the bad cops, therefore all cops are bad
No, good cops *do* report bad cops. But then they get fired by higher up bad cops. So there are *briefly* good cops.
I think it's an insult to even call them cops, they're power hungry thugs playing dress-up on the states paycheck.
They probably saw he was clean after running the plates, doesn’t mean that they can’t still harass him anyways like they did.. passive harassment.. that’s a new one to me
I can't say I would've handled it as well as that dude and I think I'm a lot older than him. Kudos. Probably saved his life.
This is fucking scary. “You’re free to go” well why the fuck are you surrounding him? This is very odd. This should be against the law like this is some kind of intimidation or something. How is this “protecting and serving”??????
Because these small town police are the heroes of their shitty little small towns. Everyone knows each other and protects each other which makes it hard for “outsiders”
That’s fucking stupid. It’s supposed to be the land of the free. You’re supposed to be able to freely travel without being harassed. I guess not in that piece of shit town tho.
That's not how small towns in America work.
Ironic because they’re the fuckers always chanting “freedom”
Freedom to fuck up anyone I don't agree with.
they are protecting and serving someone, but it's not this guy
I guess those cops interpret “protect & serve” as “harass & intimidate”
Can't stand the tone of the cops voice.
Seriously, it's the customer service tone one uses when a thank you really means "fuck you".
he is trying to get out of trouble when he files a complaint. Internal will look at it and dismiss it if he files a claim
There's no internal affairs at this podunk sheriff's office. It's Jean at the front desk, and she'll give him a cookie and thank him for making sure it didn't stay too "dark" outside. I've never seen an IGA that wasn't in a small town in the middle of nowhere.
The cop did not break the law. Being creepy af, following someone who hasn’t broken any law, running plates for any car you can see, and speaking like a serial killer in a B movie are legal. Right and legal are different things.
100% sure he's doing that voice on purpose to try and gain a reaction out of him. These cops were almost foaming at the mouth for an opportunity to arrest or kill him.
Reminiscent of “Get Out”
You have to be a sick and twisted individual to do this to another person. I’d be scared shitless. I’m glad he didn’t get hurt.
"individual"s like this don't see person's as people. They are only an NPC in their life and story. A pawn, an animal.
It was a whole setup till they saw he was recording . That’s what people are missing. It would have gone a different way if he wasn’t
100% they had a blitz package lined up until they seen him bring out his canon so they dropped back into cover 2.
are my eyes playing tricks on me? i swear it looks like someone pissing in the bushes behind that officer
Lmao it’s a stop sign but it looks like some white dude taking a leak
i see the stop sign but i feel like the person i think I'm seeing is to the [left](https://imgur.com/gallery/8GrFRUm) of it
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I’m white as can be and this is creepy as fuck. Has horror movie vibes to it.
There is a reason people like Jordan Peele started including lots of scenes like this in his horror movies and shows.
When I was sixteen, I had a little red sports car. Saved my allowance as a kid, worked summers doing yard work, got a real job at a car wash summer before. Maybe that’s an unnecessary detail… One night, I drove from my mom’s house to my dad’s house kinda late at night (11ish). Their houses were exactly six blocks away from each other. When I stopped in front of dad’s house, a cruiser pulled up behind me, no lights. I wasn’t sure what to do, cause I was a new driver and also I was halfway standing up outta the car… so I sorta sat back down with the door open and my legs out, feet on the pavement. lol. This really young rookie looking cop gets out and says hey in a weird voice and asks if I’ve been drinking. I said no… my sister was in the house, she opened the front door and called out asking if there was a problem, saying she’d just called me to come over, trying to help out. He asked me three more times if I’d been drinking, I just kept saying no. At that time I’d never even tried alcohol. He never gave me a sobriety test. Eventually he said okay and I said …okay… and just slowly got up and walked into the house, while stared at me and then eventually he went back to his cruiser and stayed parked there with the car running for a long time after, as I looked out the window. To date I can’t think of what I could’ve done to draw his attention. I mean, I was only on the road six blocks, never got above like 30 mph. And also he was just so weird about it… I got pulled over so much in that car, even when I thought I was driving perfectly… eventually I sold it and got a boring looking truck and that helped a lot. Still though… wtf?
They were hoping for an excuse to impound the car, seize it through civil forfeiture, sell it off at auction, and pocket the revenue. After all, you’re a young kid with a brand new fast car, clearly you’re going to be irresponsible with it, right? Just keeping the roads safe is all...
Super suspicious... good on this guy to cover his ass and film. They pulled in and parked like it was a high risk stop, minus the lights... this looks like harassment to me.
You're free to go. You're also free to stay. The way he said that was creepy.
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Ugh the tone of his "you're free to go" is chilling. The very clear implication there was "get out of this town."
Don't forget. "You're free to stay."
“You’re free to go” AKA: we know what we’re doing. YOU know what we’re doing. We just won’t admit it. Buhbye now. Fucking pigs
You can hear his blood pressure rising, I don't blame him fuck that. Pure intimidation tactics. God just listen to those cops, they're loving this.
I mean this is a perfect example of what cops are intended to do. Policing in america has one purpose. To escalate situations into ticketable/arrestable offenses. -everyone- becomes agitated when they're pulled over, its just a matter of range. From being a little nervous and having your heart rate increased, to sheer fucking panic. Thats exactly what these two were looking for, a nervous guy they could bully/intimidate into saying/doing something stupid and making an arrest out of nothing. That is all they are concerned with.
Love how the dick head cop says "fuck you" except the words that came out of his mouth were "your free to go, THANK you"
“Thank you though, so much.”
I found the way he said that to be terrifying. He started off sounding perfectly genuine, giving his name and badge number. Then the mask eventually slipped. That "thank you, so much. You're also free to stay!" was so insidious.
Feels like a scene from a Jordan Peele movie.
It honestly gave me Get Out vibes
The way the officer is talking screams ill intent but didn't succeed thankfully. Snakes.
I recently learned what a "sundown town" was and that there was one here in Nevada - the town of Minden - that discriminates against indigenous persons. For many years the town board and county commissioners, all of them white, refused to get rid of the Minden sundown siren, stating that it was nothing more than a quaint practice of yesteryear. Last year the state Legislature stepped in and banned the practice. Thank goodness. And that's all one needs to know about Minden, Nevada. It's a racist MAGA cesspool. https://newrepublic.com/article/162425/sundown-town-racism-indigenous-discrimination-nevada
This is so ridiculously fucked up. It’s obvious intimidation.
Man, that’s so disturbing… and disgraceful. And unfair. And outdated. And not the society I want to leave for my children…
I'm not even American, on a completely different continent and this shit makes me embarrassed. Not even cause I share a similar skin tone to this cop, but for the fact I once supported cops in general. How can anything change in America when this sort of shit happens? Im scared for my world as we tend to follow the USA in most trends
It won't change unless you change the education system. The us is known to have a dogshit education system that's riddled with outdated practices and they try instill a strong patriotic sense of American exceptionalism.
This. 100% This. The dumbing down of America is infuriating to experience as its the root of most conflict and manipulation
That would be terrifying.
I don't care what color you are either nothing about this situation would make you feel anything less. Not one but 2 squads focused on you and no ones even pulled you over yet? Yet they're happy to hit you with the spot light? I'd be 100% convinced they were plotting, doesn't take that long to run plates. Certainly don't need 2 cars to do it either.
I'm pasty, irish white and this would terrify the fuck out of me. Even the end with "you're free to go" with such distain and vile in their voice; I'd be worried they'd be planning something like to arresting me for not signalling as I pulled out of the parking spot, going the wrong way down the parking lot (Because the cop was blocking the right way), or just SOMETHING.
This is out of a bad movie, what in the flying fuck is going on here? They think they can just roll up on someone and just because they don't have their lights on or aren't trying to detain or question him that it's not intimidating or suspicious?
I wonder if that cop uses that same tone of voice after he beats his wife and kids “YoU’rE fReE tO gO”
The Cop Cartel.
he knew he was in the wrong. that is why he kept saying you are free to go. if he wasn't recording, it would have led to an arrest
I don’t even wanna know what that first cop had planned to do before he saw the guy filming
OMG, the psychopathic gaslighting to act like there isn't anything going on and he's just "free to go," like having an officer tail you, light you up, call for backup isn't happening around him. Infuriating.
So sick of racist assholes being racist assholes, shit is rage inducing
This is in Camano, Washington. Not a "sundown town." Racism and racial stereotyping exist all across the US and aren't localized to just sundown towns or the southern US and this kind of thing can happen anywhere. Just thought this was important to note.
Yeah I live ‘round zones here. Police chasing people for no reason is common. Sometimes may be for actual reasons, but I’ve gotten pulled over several times for no reason as well.
what are you two doing? waiting for you to mess up just once :)
Them pigs wanted to kill that dude.
It's insane that these places stills exist.
This like an eery scene from a horror movie right here.
pretty disturbing video
Scary, handled that great
Smart to film it, this interaction looks a whole lot different if the camera wasn't recording.
They are waiting like predators
Anyone watching this thinking what's the big deal needs to realize it is not unheard of for the person in this situation to wind up dead, and this is a gross violation by the cops.
That’s crazy
Pass this on to the FBI, The Biden admin is working to rid the nation of cops like this.
If he hadn't been recording this would've gone verrry differently...
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HOLY CRAP Sooo wierd... As he's moving the video around showing IGA, I'm like "hey, that looks like the one right by my house". Then the Subway right by it, and then the bar at the end of that. I'm waiting for him to move the video behind him and sure enough.. the Remax. This is on Camano Island! Small, rural town in Washington state north of Seattle. Definitely pretty white. So fucking wierd to see 1 minute from where I live on Reddit lol. While I do think the driver shoulda left asap, the cops shouldn't have hanged up on him like that. For the most part, the cops here are pretty chill but can be dicks. They don't have much to do so obviously the cop was probably following him one hopes he'd drive a bit above the speed limit. That Adams cop is 👎 Stanwood/Camano police department
I con't believe something like sundown towns exists in US in 2021. What a totaly shit country.
Filthy fucking pigs wonder why they are hated
We need to contact their bosses
More then likely they are aware and would probably do nothing about it and probably laugh at the attempt
Unfortunately, probably true. This is horrible
They’re probably racist too
No way. You're suggesting this is systemic?
it's so fucking scary being black. these pricks are such passive aggressive sun downers.