Let's work with gold rss only. It costs 160 gold to heal 1 T5. It costs 400 gold to train 1 T5.
If you heal 3M T5 troops (30M power), your gold cost is 480M. If you allow those 3M T5 troops to die, you get 1.5M back for free and you have to retrain 1.5M. The gold cost to retrain is 600M.
In addition to gold, you'll also have to consider the other rss and speedup costs.
Good break down. When it comes to speed ups, training does take at least 10x as long as healing would take with max tech. So it’s completely not worth it
You should be losing troops by swarming flags. Having extra troops can let you swarm earlier and not be so worried about the trade.
For your gold problems.. You need to bite the bullet and make not only one, not two, but at least 3 more farms. I see so many people with gold problems, and it's always the same lack of farms.
I have, 14 farms, on the extreme end surely, but I bring 30 or 40 B RSS every KVK. What's nice about the quantity is that the most of any resource type I have is gold because of alliance node. Now I have even gone a step further, taking over a dead alliance, I built it's flags up to 500, I kept every inactive player and never removed them. This got me over the 80 member limit to make a gold mine, and I have a private node where my 14 gathers can sit and collect the whole thing.
You don't need 14, but a few extra farms to focus on gold will alleviate your problems greatly. I highly recommend focusing gold on farms and food/wood on the main. Additionally when you have extra gold, all pick one chests can be used for food/wood getting substantially more.
Yeah, you can create one extra account in your home kingdom. The others you have to create in another kingdom then when you can migrate them over to your current kingdom so you can have as many as you like. Better to keep all on one login so you don’t get penalised from Lilith for transferring too much rss, as sometimes transferring from a secondary login makes them think you are buying rss. For those farms, only upgrade gatherers to level 37 and a couple of peacekeepers. Get them to city hall 22 for the 5 marches, then when you can get them to 25 so you can bring them to lost kingdom. You don’t need to log in too often, just stick your marches in alliance pits as a priority.
So I also run 1 farm and a main and generally spend about $200 per month (probably less, but it’s a nice round number) and I’ll say that if you don’t have at least 4b rss gathered before kvk pass 4 you are probably going to need more resources from somewhere else. If you are running out of resources consistently either need to do better on your current accounts or just run more farms.
That aside, the real difference between retraining troops vs healing them isn’t the resources, but the speedups. Healing a t5 unit takes a few seconds, but training one takes more than a minute. So generally you want your troops to die in a structure or in a rally (ideally). If you need to drop power you need to drop power, but dying on the field is such a waste in my eyes. At least help your alliance swarm a structure with a rally.
As was mentioned, the best way you can lose those troops while helping your kd, is to swarm flags soon after the rally hits the flag. Assuming as you said you don't have many rss to heal.
Those troops would die very fast if you fight with full hospital, and by the next pass opening, you will be out of war due to not having troops and dw eventually for not hitting the requirements. So heal fight, kills troops in rally and garrison.
Let's work with gold rss only. It costs 160 gold to heal 1 T5. It costs 400 gold to train 1 T5. If you heal 3M T5 troops (30M power), your gold cost is 480M. If you allow those 3M T5 troops to die, you get 1.5M back for free and you have to retrain 1.5M. The gold cost to retrain is 600M. In addition to gold, you'll also have to consider the other rss and speedup costs.
Great breakdown
Seriously, I’m responding to this just so I can come back to it whenever for a refresher 😂
Saving this. Thanks. 😊
Good break down. When it comes to speed ups, training does take at least 10x as long as healing would take with max tech. So it’s completely not worth it
You should be losing troops by swarming flags. Having extra troops can let you swarm earlier and not be so worried about the trade. For your gold problems.. You need to bite the bullet and make not only one, not two, but at least 3 more farms. I see so many people with gold problems, and it's always the same lack of farms. I have, 14 farms, on the extreme end surely, but I bring 30 or 40 B RSS every KVK. What's nice about the quantity is that the most of any resource type I have is gold because of alliance node. Now I have even gone a step further, taking over a dead alliance, I built it's flags up to 500, I kept every inactive player and never removed them. This got me over the 80 member limit to make a gold mine, and I have a private node where my 14 gathers can sit and collect the whole thing. You don't need 14, but a few extra farms to focus on gold will alleviate your problems greatly. I highly recommend focusing gold on farms and food/wood on the main. Additionally when you have extra gold, all pick one chests can be used for food/wood getting substantially more.
what do you mean farms? like gold mines in your city? sorry for the inconvenience i’m a foolish ch21 with only 3 mil power
Farms are additional cities you create for the sole purpose of farming and transferring those rss to your main account.
oh damn so in kvk you make those solely for more resources?
Yeah, you can create one extra account in your home kingdom. The others you have to create in another kingdom then when you can migrate them over to your current kingdom so you can have as many as you like. Better to keep all on one login so you don’t get penalised from Lilith for transferring too much rss, as sometimes transferring from a secondary login makes them think you are buying rss. For those farms, only upgrade gatherers to level 37 and a couple of peacekeepers. Get them to city hall 22 for the 5 marches, then when you can get them to 25 so you can bring them to lost kingdom. You don’t need to log in too often, just stick your marches in alliance pits as a priority.
So I also run 1 farm and a main and generally spend about $200 per month (probably less, but it’s a nice round number) and I’ll say that if you don’t have at least 4b rss gathered before kvk pass 4 you are probably going to need more resources from somewhere else. If you are running out of resources consistently either need to do better on your current accounts or just run more farms. That aside, the real difference between retraining troops vs healing them isn’t the resources, but the speedups. Healing a t5 unit takes a few seconds, but training one takes more than a minute. So generally you want your troops to die in a structure or in a rally (ideally). If you need to drop power you need to drop power, but dying on the field is such a waste in my eyes. At least help your alliance swarm a structure with a rally.
As was mentioned, the best way you can lose those troops while helping your kd, is to swarm flags soon after the rally hits the flag. Assuming as you said you don't have many rss to heal.
Those troops would die very fast if you fight with full hospital, and by the next pass opening, you will be out of war due to not having troops and dw eventually for not hitting the requirements. So heal fight, kills troops in rally and garrison.
In your situation should fight hard and rally / garrison. Better trade for KP to taken deads.