Maybe they’re aren’t the right people. Or, it just may take some time until they realize it is actually useful.
I understand that the ideal free trial should generate a vacuum in the user when finished. If not, maybe it’s not something they really need right now.
Ngl, I was an avid user until you added that feature. Next time tell the user something is a paid feature before they put in 5-10 minutes setting up just to find out
Do you really need AI for this? The application could work well without it, focusing on data fetching, profile matching, and notifications, which don't necessarily need AI. This approach would cut costs. If AI is a must, consider offering it as a premium option for better profit margins. Also, consider using Ollama with RunPod instead of ChatGPT—it's cheaper and could be sufficient for your needs.
It is needed, unfortunately. I tried doing fuzzy matching on keywords, but that failed quite badly since for example some job listings have different variations of the same technology (React, ReactJS, React.js).
Also if you want to filter for things like salary range in the description, it's quite hard without an LLM.
I tried using gpt3.5-turbo and that one was pretty bad at matching user input with job descriptions. gpt-4o works really nice, but also crazy expensive.
I've been considering a hosted LLM option, but traffic is so low right now, that pay as you go for chatgpt is more reasonable.
Look into serverless architecture for hosting. Mainly AWS lambda. You don’t need a server in 2024. TYou just do everything with webhooks and only pay for the resources you use. It’s a huge learning curve to use AWS but you can literally pay for what you use and set up auto scaling that automatically matches your demand. You can also have a free t2 server for 12 months that can handle all the polling, and you just send all the heavy compute to a lambda serverless function by a simple invocation. It’s actually much cheaper to use lambda until you have around 10 concurrent requests 24/7, which by that point you can change to a 24/7 server with auto scaling. You can also abstract away and make an API this way, and make a web-app, telegram bot, discord bot, as the interfaces to your functionality targeting more users.
I just read on your faq you use desktop because of server costs. This isn’t true. It is free to start on AWS and you only pay what you use . The opportunity cost of not having an online service is also notable
Did you use the right algorithms and effective tokenization, maybe with a synonyms dictionary? You could preprocess data with ChatGPT before putting it into the database, instead of making API calls for each user, to improve fuzzy search efficiency.
That is a decent start moving from freemium to paid users. Just keep it up and be consistent with your marketing effort. Your idea is already validated with those paying customers
I'm launching my own products soon and one concern that I have is the newsletter part. How did you settle that part?
Is there any templates that you used to send them weekly updates or emails to keep them engaged, before you send out the notice that you'll be converting to paid plans?
Nope, I usually avoid spamming users with emails, only send out when there is something important to communicate. I use mailer lite for email marketing
LinkedIn only sends new job alerts one a day, while f2a can do once every 30 min to make sure you are always first in line.
Also, not all job boards have that feature and f2a supports 10+ job boards.
And on top of everything we also add our own filtering layer to make sure you only see the jobs you are interested in.
I suggest avoiding discrepancies like this - Your FAQ indicates that the "Auto-Apply" feature is planned for future implementation, giving users an expectation that it will be available.
I, for one, was super interested in this, and now you're telling me your team isn't interested in working on it because not enough people care for it? A bit of a contradiction.
Colour scheme is a bit off. I’ve never seen that earth green colour for a software company.
And increase your prices so you have more margins. A good SaaS should be 90% margins.
Unemployed people buy stuff all the time. I’ve lived with them and they buy stuff they don’t need all the time, like cigarettes and Netflix subscriptions. Some have savings and some are very desperate to get a job. Some have parents/family that can lend them money. If your product would actually help them make more money then they would pay for it. You sell it as this will land them a new job paying 30k a year. Who wouldn’t pay a few hundred dollars for that? If you was confident in your product to get people jobs/interviews then you would offer a money back guarantee that you’ll find them a job in X amount of days, like colddms.com (not my business, they just have a good offer). Or you could have a “Get an interview in 30 days challenge” - that will motivate a lot of people and will make them try harder too.
You have a negative belief around this. Figure out a way to increase prices and sell better.
It may be a good idea to maintain your lower prices for now and focus on getting users and great reviews. Once you collect enough high quality reviews, those become assets you can use to increase the trust signals on your website.
Take a look at this interview with Brett Williams, the starting price was also pretty low ($500) and there were many people that went for it. Over time he managed to increase the prices to $1000, $3000 and now sitting comfortably at $4999 [https://www.designjoy.co/](https://www.designjoy.co/) . Seriously inspiring stuff.
Interview video as mentioned here: [https://youtu.be/vedkm3ZmHIE?si=qCss9\_Mcue\_KIvNM](https://youtu.be/vedkm3ZmHIE?si=qCss9_Mcue_KIvNM)
Congrats on the sales! 🎉
Consider gathering feedback from your users to understand what they love and what could be improved. 🚀 Keep iterating and refining your product. Every sale is a step forward! 💪
It all depends on the quality of the 1800 leads and your pricing, but 9 seems good so far.
What exactly did you email them? Homepage? Do you have a proper funnel where you can measure the drop offs and conversions? That will help A LOT btw.
I personally wouldn't be too happy with those numbers. The data is telling you people don't want to pay for it. I'm not saying it's a bad product, but some niches like this are harder to monetize than others.
Also, the main selling point of this product is a bit off. There's no real benefit to being first. Applications and resumes are stacked, so the last person to apply would be the first applicant these companies would see. Being first would push you further down the stack.
I would've focused on monetizing from companies instead and maybe adding premium features for free users once you had a larger audience.
> Also, the main selling point of this product is a bit off. There's no real benefit to being first. Applications and resumes are stacked, so the last person to apply would be the first applicant these companies would see. Being first would push you further down the stack.
Lmao
Expand on this, I'm genuinely curious. Whenever I was hiring or part of the hiring process, I can't remember one time where we 1 waited to see who the first applicant is, 2 scrolled down the stack to look at them in order, or 3 hired the first applicant.
Curious to get your thoughts (if you have any).
Firstly, I am sorry to just leave “Lmao”. That was crass.
There is an indicator on Linkedin where they highlight being an early applicant. It is available in atleast one more website, Naukri. Probably more but I have not seen personally. I think it definitely indicates that It matters.
Personally all of the hiring I have seen, The job postings have been there for weeks after the position has been filled. Also, The recruiters will pick up enough resumes from first 2-3 days and will schedule interviews and rarely goes beyond that batch. Definitely suggests that applying earliest is an advantage as a job seeker.
Bro.. 9 people not only signed up but actually gave you money? You're crushing it man just keep doing what you're doing.
He said 1800 tried, so the conversion is about 0.5% what is probably not bad but the OP needs to figure out why people don't pay.
Exactly, not great not terrible
Maybe they’re aren’t the right people. Or, it just may take some time until they realize it is actually useful. I understand that the ideal free trial should generate a vacuum in the user when finished. If not, maybe it’s not something they really need right now.
Will keep at it, thanks
Ngl, I was an avid user until you added that feature. Next time tell the user something is a paid feature before they put in 5-10 minutes setting up just to find out
Nothing is worse than putting time into something then getting on the final screen and presented with a sign up or pay screen
Interesting idea. Will keep it in mind for the future
Do you really need AI for this? The application could work well without it, focusing on data fetching, profile matching, and notifications, which don't necessarily need AI. This approach would cut costs. If AI is a must, consider offering it as a premium option for better profit margins. Also, consider using Ollama with RunPod instead of ChatGPT—it's cheaper and could be sufficient for your needs.
It is needed, unfortunately. I tried doing fuzzy matching on keywords, but that failed quite badly since for example some job listings have different variations of the same technology (React, ReactJS, React.js). Also if you want to filter for things like salary range in the description, it's quite hard without an LLM. I tried using gpt3.5-turbo and that one was pretty bad at matching user input with job descriptions. gpt-4o works really nice, but also crazy expensive. I've been considering a hosted LLM option, but traffic is so low right now, that pay as you go for chatgpt is more reasonable.
Look into serverless architecture for hosting. Mainly AWS lambda. You don’t need a server in 2024. TYou just do everything with webhooks and only pay for the resources you use. It’s a huge learning curve to use AWS but you can literally pay for what you use and set up auto scaling that automatically matches your demand. You can also have a free t2 server for 12 months that can handle all the polling, and you just send all the heavy compute to a lambda serverless function by a simple invocation. It’s actually much cheaper to use lambda until you have around 10 concurrent requests 24/7, which by that point you can change to a 24/7 server with auto scaling. You can also abstract away and make an API this way, and make a web-app, telegram bot, discord bot, as the interfaces to your functionality targeting more users.
I don't rent an aws ec2, the app is using supabase edge functions which is similar to aws serverless.
I just read on your faq you use desktop because of server costs. This isn’t true. It is free to start on AWS and you only pay what you use . The opportunity cost of not having an online service is also notable
Did you use the right algorithms and effective tokenization, maybe with a synonyms dictionary? You could preprocess data with ChatGPT before putting it into the database, instead of making API calls for each user, to improve fuzzy search efficiency.
That is a decent start moving from freemium to paid users. Just keep it up and be consistent with your marketing effort. Your idea is already validated with those paying customers
How did you get 1800 emails ? I need to do the same.
Few months of advertising it online
Where did u advertise?
Mainly google ads and reddit ads
I'm launching my own products soon and one concern that I have is the newsletter part. How did you settle that part? Is there any templates that you used to send them weekly updates or emails to keep them engaged, before you send out the notice that you'll be converting to paid plans?
Nope, I usually avoid spamming users with emails, only send out when there is something important to communicate. I use mailer lite for email marketing
I see, alright thanks a bunch. Will keep that in mind
I mean it could have been 10 ;)
You are going great! Keep it up
Thank you 😇
It's a start! Be proud of yourself.
I wonder how is it different from, say, LinkedIn's job alerts? It's 100% free.
LinkedIn only sends new job alerts one a day, while f2a can do once every 30 min to make sure you are always first in line. Also, not all job boards have that feature and f2a supports 10+ job boards. And on top of everything we also add our own filtering layer to make sure you only see the jobs you are interested in.
Thanks!
When will the Auto-Apply be released? Very interested in this tool, thank you!
Sorry to dissapoint, but we don’t have any plans to start working on that. I know a few people want it, but not enough to justify the effort
I suggest avoiding discrepancies like this - Your FAQ indicates that the "Auto-Apply" feature is planned for future implementation, giving users an expectation that it will be available. I, for one, was super interested in this, and now you're telling me your team isn't interested in working on it because not enough people care for it? A bit of a contradiction.
I understand your point. We’re not dropping the idea altogether, but right now there is not enough interest to make it a priority.
Colour scheme is a bit off. I’ve never seen that earth green colour for a software company. And increase your prices so you have more margins. A good SaaS should be 90% margins.
Can’t really increase prices since the target audience are unemployed people
Unemployed people buy stuff all the time. I’ve lived with them and they buy stuff they don’t need all the time, like cigarettes and Netflix subscriptions. Some have savings and some are very desperate to get a job. Some have parents/family that can lend them money. If your product would actually help them make more money then they would pay for it. You sell it as this will land them a new job paying 30k a year. Who wouldn’t pay a few hundred dollars for that? If you was confident in your product to get people jobs/interviews then you would offer a money back guarantee that you’ll find them a job in X amount of days, like colddms.com (not my business, they just have a good offer). Or you could have a “Get an interview in 30 days challenge” - that will motivate a lot of people and will make them try harder too. You have a negative belief around this. Figure out a way to increase prices and sell better.
It may be a good idea to maintain your lower prices for now and focus on getting users and great reviews. Once you collect enough high quality reviews, those become assets you can use to increase the trust signals on your website. Take a look at this interview with Brett Williams, the starting price was also pretty low ($500) and there were many people that went for it. Over time he managed to increase the prices to $1000, $3000 and now sitting comfortably at $4999 [https://www.designjoy.co/](https://www.designjoy.co/) . Seriously inspiring stuff. Interview video as mentioned here: [https://youtu.be/vedkm3ZmHIE?si=qCss9\_Mcue\_KIvNM](https://youtu.be/vedkm3ZmHIE?si=qCss9_Mcue_KIvNM)
Nice. Yep, pretty much what I had in mind, trying to keep prices as low as possible for now and maybe increase them later
Awesome bro! Keep us updated on how it goes. Looking forward to see how your journey goes
IMO, that is a great milestone you have got there. It indicates you are actually solving something people willing to pay for.
Congrats on the sales! 🎉 Consider gathering feedback from your users to understand what they love and what could be improved. 🚀 Keep iterating and refining your product. Every sale is a step forward! 💪
Will do, thank you!
It all depends on the quality of the 1800 leads and your pricing, but 9 seems good so far. What exactly did you email them? Homepage? Do you have a proper funnel where you can measure the drop offs and conversions? That will help A LOT btw.
What did you use to email the 1800 people? Just normal email or a service?
Mailer Lite
This is a good result but I would remove the PH buttons saying about just one upvote.
Will launch there soon too
I personally wouldn't be too happy with those numbers. The data is telling you people don't want to pay for it. I'm not saying it's a bad product, but some niches like this are harder to monetize than others. Also, the main selling point of this product is a bit off. There's no real benefit to being first. Applications and resumes are stacked, so the last person to apply would be the first applicant these companies would see. Being first would push you further down the stack. I would've focused on monetizing from companies instead and maybe adding premium features for free users once you had a larger audience.
> Also, the main selling point of this product is a bit off. There's no real benefit to being first. Applications and resumes are stacked, so the last person to apply would be the first applicant these companies would see. Being first would push you further down the stack. Lmao
Expand on this, I'm genuinely curious. Whenever I was hiring or part of the hiring process, I can't remember one time where we 1 waited to see who the first applicant is, 2 scrolled down the stack to look at them in order, or 3 hired the first applicant. Curious to get your thoughts (if you have any).
Firstly, I am sorry to just leave “Lmao”. That was crass. There is an indicator on Linkedin where they highlight being an early applicant. It is available in atleast one more website, Naukri. Probably more but I have not seen personally. I think it definitely indicates that It matters. Personally all of the hiring I have seen, The job postings have been there for weeks after the position has been filled. Also, The recruiters will pick up enough resumes from first 2-3 days and will schedule interviews and rarely goes beyond that batch. Definitely suggests that applying earliest is an advantage as a job seeker.
Exactly, we’ve validated the idea with some users already, being early to apply actually helps