dude, you just triggered a memory, i worked in a datacenter that also had a colo besides it, the only time i went into it was to press a button that a customer called about, one night i went in since Eurovision was on and the customers server was handling the call traffic, and a few servers crashed and they just had a few left limping along.
i went in and took a nap (true) until the customer could come in, what i saw in their cage enraged me, two switches and a server was hanging on several cat5 cables, the tech fixed the servers, and i made him rack the switches and server since i threaten that i would end their contract if he didn't fix it.
the next day we got a angry call but my boss backed me up.
The funny thing is the main sub is the real joke these days and I feel like we are not far off from this one becoming the place people come for serious help. Which is some weapons grade irony. The main sub would probably tell you that you don't need a switch if you use software defined networking.
There always someone trying to show off how smart they are, and how they work for a big company that spend billions in IT so they would have bought the really good switches for just 10K a pop. and you just need to call your VAR and get those.
we should probably spin off the serious questions to r/shittysysadminFRFR or something.
seriously but we prob do need a sub where bad sysadmins can ask questions that are seemingly obvious
Yep, you are actually meant to attach it to the switch just from those front brackets.
Yes, it is stupid. Yes it will sag. Yes it will need to be pushed up to put something under it.
But it will work well enough.
One of the guys who trained me as a sys admin advised:
"If you're every looking at something in tech and it just totally doesn't make sense. Don't question if you're wrong or stupid, instead think to yourself 'If I were the biggest, most useless, overpaid retard in the entire world, how would I have done this?', and that will probably make it clear what the manufacturer did."
I just had a rep of our web host of 15 years tell me I need to go to another company because they can't handle our services anymore. I asked them if they were authorized to tell customers to go somewhere else. I am kind of in awe still.
2 post rail kits are available for a lot of switches, and prevent sag. Highly preferable for OP to buy one and mount the switch that way versus the mounting brackets.
Maybe. It depends on leadership, and whether OP can sell it. Probably not, but it's going to be hard for OP to try if he doesn't even know the option exists.
E: of/if keyboard shenanigans.
The most questionable ones I can remember were the Cisco 3850s with dual 1100 W power supplies, and those girthy C15 power cables. Those bitches would torque the hell out of their rack ears. Ha
I've had switches mounted without any additional support in racks for years without any indication of sagging. So, yes, that's how they're meant to be mounted.
> I've had switches mounted without any additional support in racks for years without any indication of sagging.
If they're mounted by the two front brackets alone, they're definitely sagging to some degree. It's unavoidable if you're mounting a switch from the front. The only way to avoid sag is with a shelf or rail kit.
I just looked at a few of my racks where all of the switches are mounted that way. If they're sagging, it's pretty much an imperceptible amount.
I'm not saying they can't sag. I'm just saying that with the switches I've used any sag has been nearly unnoticeable.
That works on racks with super tight tolerances, with switches that aren't particularly heavy, if racked by someone who bothered torquing down the rack screws. If you have a rack full of switches, I'll bet you money that the switches toward the middle and bottom of the rack are much more difficult to unrack than the ones in the top quarter or third.
Of course, that doesn't affect performance, and doesn't usually matter until you're tearing down a site.
> Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually
Might sag a bit, but it's fine. It's not really that heavy compared to some switches.
OP says they are a shitty sysadmin but I have had this very same fear. I had a nightmare one time that I mounted one of these with just the front brackets and woke up the next day and it had sagged to the extreme and bent like a taco and taken the whole site offline.
I did a UPS rollout on a campus a while ago. They required ears to be installed at the front despite the mid mount option working fine for almost all locations. They sagged a bit but it was left like that.
I came back to one room to figure out why some had gone offline. There was construction in the area and, thanks to drywall dust and a very clear boot print, a contractor had stepped on them as a foot stool to reach a cable tray at the top of the rack. Lots of twisted metal.
After that they still wouldn’t mid mount them, and instead rolled out some really fancy high density cellulose support columns (a chopped up 2x4).
This reminds me of one time when I was demoing some gear out of a rack. A UPS was installed around half to 2/3 the way towards the top of the rack. I unscrewed the front ears and went to slide the UPS out. The battery tray slid straight out of the UPS, down three or four feet, and right on my feet.
My toes hurt so bad I thought sure one or more had been amputated. I went to my office and shut the door to cry and check. Fortunately they were not.
Apparently what one of my fellow shitty sysadmins had done when they last replaced the battery in this UPS, was to not screw down the battery tray....
Yeah, I usually do that kind of thing with equipment when it's a bit heavier than I can handle. We typically use the standard 2U UPS models and they're usually easy enough to handle on their own.
Yeah, I had that thought when I first started getting into this business, but then I saw old switches (that aren't light) mounted the same way that had been like that for a decade or longer, so I stopped worrying about it.
Now I’m picturing those melty clock paintings except it’s servers n shit….
“Your firmware has been updated to a different state of matter” goddammit Microsoft *literally* vaporized the DC… I didn’t think that’s what they meant by “cloud-based”
You can turn the tungs of the brackets towards the top of the switch and mount under a desk or permanent shelf. If you do not have a rack to put it in.
I had a colleague who was clueless when I told him to mount a small field switch under a desk by turning the brackets 90 degrees… was like he saw water burning.
That’s what I was thinking, that combined with the assurances of everyone here that mounting switches like this is normal has me feeling a lot less nervous about mounting it like this lol.
Shhhh.. That's why they give the small square rubber "feet" in the box with the switch.
You are supposed to separate them and place them in on the bottom in the corners. 😀
If you lift a ceiling tile and put it up there, anyone who goes into that Comms room will wonder why the hell there’s all those network cables going up there.
There are two correct answers to this question, and a third if you have no other options. What you have there is a 2 post rack, generally found in telecom. For more server oriented stuff, you'll usually find the vastly superior 4 post rack.
1. Using screws compatible with the pre-tapped rack holes, secure the switch to the rack using the brackets or "ears" attached to it. This method is least preferable, and your switch absolutely will sag.
2. Get the manufacturers 2-post rail kit for this switch, if they sell one. Contact your VAR and ask for them to find it for you, and quote you. There will be no sag. This is the best, and most preferable option.
3. Do this if you have absolutely no other options. Buy a shelf for a 2 post rack. Set the switch on the shelf, and cry. Try not to bump the shelf.
Try to do the 2 post rail kit.
I would attach the ears to the switch backwards so that the part which mounts to the rack will be in a few inches. That at least gives you a little bit towards the center of gravity on the switch.
I came here to say this. Obviously not ideal, but even a little bit of forward weight can be helpful. Cisco is shipping similarly mounted switches still (though the bracket is a tad longer). I wouldn't recommend putting anything on top of it unless you're talking about a feather collection though ...
It’ll sag, all switches do.
Just been talking to HPE about this switch, management plane supports IPv6, but the routing engine doesn’t. Supposedly lodged as a feature request for IPv6 routing.
The nice thing about 48 port switches is you only need about 30 cat6 cables to safely dangle the switch from the top of the mdf. Plenty of room for expansion!
Just stagger the ports you use so it hangs evenly.
Just set it on top of anther pice of equipment. Make sure you block the air vent of the machine you set it on so that it maintains a high internal temperature
Just set it on top of something that is already racked. Just slam the power into whatever power port is close by (even if you have to drape it across systems or pathways).
Done and done.
Your rack looks like it's missing the clip nuts and screws. You need these to screw the switch to the rack securely. If you do all four screws it will hang there just fine. They wouldn't make two post racks if it didn't support equipment like this.
It’ll be fine. Usually these things are bolstered by their neighbors anyway, but it’ll last forever even if it’s all alone. Been there, done that.
If you want to ‘help’ it, rotate the brackets 180°, that will center the load a bit.
15 years of racking experience here, typical to sag on its own. The idea is if stacked with other items the collective will hold up the saggy boys.
I've also been told stacking helps keep the appliances cooler than being stand alone which didn't make any sense to me.
A Lot of these perceivably poor form factors are this way because the entire industry decided on it decades back and since then manufacturers advance features and cram more redundancy into higher priced units. May not look safe and may not sit straight on its own but the metals they use will certainly bend before they will shear or snap.
They have support solution specific to 2 post racks, but they pricey and hard to justify.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/1u-2-post-rack-rails-19-inch/apd/a0389974/power-cooling-data-center-infrastructure?tfcid=91049735dgc=opl&gacd=9684992-1102-5761040-266906002-0&dgc=ST&SA360CID=71700000117208879&&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwps-zBhAiEiwALwsVYU7vLq9VejO86NDbvB0ZSvk03Vv9Ma0lE7B6WCFv5rQhAFO_GulKaRoC88kQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Yep! That’s exactly how most switches mount. You put two screws through the ears and let it sag. Other heavier equipment will come with more substantial mounting hardware, but just ears is the standard for most things.
Not a shitty admin, just shitty standards in the industry
yes that steel bracket will easily hold it in place on the steel rack.
I have a two post rack in my basement with 8, 48 port switches mounted exactly like that, even the really deep POE switches sit straight and don’t slump or sag. you’ll be fine
Stupid, yet ubiquitous design. It will sag, but it will hold. Crank down all those screws with 2 ugga-duggas each. Same for the rack screws. You'll worry, then you'll forget to worry and in 6 months you'll have a bunch of other equipment and cabling stacked up on it and those little ear bracket machine screws will be holding on for dear life.
>Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually?
Generally they may sag a few mm when mounted only at the front, but with the correct screws these should mount OK eventually.
Hi, network engineer for a hospital. We have two post racks all around the organization and huge enterprise switches exactly like this. Just screw that bitch on and let it sag. If you can get something underneath it to help support then by all means but otherwise not much else you can do.
Broomstick underneath maybe.
Had this instance once, or twice. Get a screw that will thread a little larger in the hole (hehe), even though that 1U would be useless for anything in the future it would work.
Or just set the switch on top of something that’s already mounted.
Just put it on the floor with the rest of the switches. The fuck do you mean mount it?
This isn't some graphic novels where you pretend it's the girlfriend you wish you had. Try mounting one of the land whales, I hear they are popular, at least if recent memes are to be believed.
super lazy proper way is
# Vertical Rack and Wall Mountable Server Rack Mount
but .. of course, it's just a one time job and you can't attach anything outwards to it lol
Go to a hardware store and match the machine screws to the holes if rack ear stuff is missing. And buy a bolt hole matching block to compare the rack holes to the correct bolt size. Get washers between the rack ears and bolts used to mount switch to rack
Something like this might work: https://www.racksolutions.com/20in-telco-rack-shelves.html?config=771-2389&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4DMSL_xr2vEiShFi2CYvS9olb6htrXUH2o1rffpnuAf-Nyk_UMnlhRoCMm0QAvD_BwE
That's the neat part: You don't
Just stand it up on the floor instead. Surely nothing horrible will happen. This is also a helpful tip when you need to save space in the rack. If anything happens, it's the janitor's fault.
The C-shaped profile is fine for network switches most of the time. It will sag a little bit, that’s normal…
Make absolutely sure you are using the correct screws for the rack. If you strip out the hole, it’s basically unusable afterwards. Make sure you don’t cross-thread the screw. Do not use some type of impact driver as even garbage rack screws are harder than the aluminum the rack is made of.
OP, you can turn those brackets 180 degrees to push the switch a (very) little forward. That will take a (very) little weight off the tail end of the switch.
Or buy a rack shelf to mount and lay the switch in the shelf.
Dealers choice.
>Am I actually supposed to secure it to the rack using only these brackets? Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually?
Yes and no. I've mounted way heavier (i.e Aruba 6300 which is 5.47 kg (12.06 lbs) ) devices using front rack ears only. Heavy devices will sag a bit but nothing will break.
Check this [Aruba Instant On 1930 Installation and Getting Started](https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/InstantOn_1930_Switch/InstantOn_1930_IGSG.pdf), rack installation starts on page 24
Zip ties.
Duct tape, then zip ties. Why take chances?
Just kidding bro. Let it hang by the cat5
Why would they call it structured cabling if it weren’t, you know, structural?
Chef's kiss! The best is when the AC makes it sway back and forth so elegantly.
That's by design. "Active heat dissipation"
dude, you just triggered a memory, i worked in a datacenter that also had a colo besides it, the only time i went into it was to press a button that a customer called about, one night i went in since Eurovision was on and the customers server was handling the call traffic, and a few servers crashed and they just had a few left limping along. i went in and took a nap (true) until the customer could come in, what i saw in their cage enraged me, two switches and a server was hanging on several cat5 cables, the tech fixed the servers, and i made him rack the switches and server since i threaten that i would end their contract if he didn't fix it. the next day we got a angry call but my boss backed me up.
I should be shocked...but I'm not lol that's so wild. Idk who would think that's okay to do 🤦 my mom wouldn't even do that
Even better weld it in.
Cinderbock to hold up the back end
If too high, an extenable paint roller pole.
I am definitely too high...
No, use the box it came in for support.
duct tape AND zip ties? we dont need to keep it there forever. use maaking tape and some shoe laces and its good enough
Come on now. We are all professionals here. You weld that shit on.
Weld. JB Weld.
meta
The funny thing is the main sub is the real joke these days and I feel like we are not far off from this one becoming the place people come for serious help. Which is some weapons grade irony. The main sub would probably tell you that you don't need a switch if you use software defined networking.
It’s what Darwin? Called natural selection:)
There always someone trying to show off how smart they are, and how they work for a big company that spend billions in IT so they would have bought the really good switches for just 10K a pop. and you just need to call your VAR and get those.
Yeah, just plug the horizontal runs into the software! The program comes with RJ45 icons!
we should probably spin off the serious questions to r/shittysysadminFRFR or something. seriously but we prob do need a sub where bad sysadmins can ask questions that are seemingly obvious
Wait, there’s a main sub? 😱
Yep, you are actually meant to attach it to the switch just from those front brackets. Yes, it is stupid. Yes it will sag. Yes it will need to be pushed up to put something under it. But it will work well enough.
Its honestly kinda funny to me op thinks they are a shitty sysadmin because the shitty manufacturer has a shitty mount.
One of the guys who trained me as a sys admin advised: "If you're every looking at something in tech and it just totally doesn't make sense. Don't question if you're wrong or stupid, instead think to yourself 'If I were the biggest, most useless, overpaid retard in the entire world, how would I have done this?', and that will probably make it clear what the manufacturer did."
So true
I just had a rep of our web host of 15 years tell me I need to go to another company because they can't handle our services anymore. I asked them if they were authorized to tell customers to go somewhere else. I am kind of in awe still.
There better be no egress fees
Are you still waiting for them to reply lol I wanna know what they said after “well uhhhh…”
2 post rail kits are available for a lot of switches, and prevent sag. Highly preferable for OP to buy one and mount the switch that way versus the mounting brackets.
The company hired a sys admin who has never put something in a rack before. Do you think they are paying for that lol?
Maybe. It depends on leadership, and whether OP can sell it. Probably not, but it's going to be hard for OP to try if he doesn't even know the option exists. E: of/if keyboard shenanigans.
The most questionable ones I can remember were the Cisco 3850s with dual 1100 W power supplies, and those girthy C15 power cables. Those bitches would torque the hell out of their rack ears. Ha
All of my bigger 1u catalysts were very saggy Even the 2u ISRs shipped with crappy little rack ears . Those were fun to mount!
Some believe that if you tighten the bolts tight enough and strip them in the process, it won't sag, but in fact, it does and will never be removed.
I didn't realize that they sag even with proper mounts lol, I just thought it was my crappy shop class rack ears.
It's not just good, it's good enough! 😒
I've had switches mounted without any additional support in racks for years without any indication of sagging. So, yes, that's how they're meant to be mounted.
Same, have more than 30 Juniper switches at work and none of them have sagged even after having been mounted 4 years ago.
> I've had switches mounted without any additional support in racks for years without any indication of sagging. If they're mounted by the two front brackets alone, they're definitely sagging to some degree. It's unavoidable if you're mounting a switch from the front. The only way to avoid sag is with a shelf or rail kit.
I just looked at a few of my racks where all of the switches are mounted that way. If they're sagging, it's pretty much an imperceptible amount. I'm not saying they can't sag. I'm just saying that with the switches I've used any sag has been nearly unnoticeable.
That works on racks with super tight tolerances, with switches that aren't particularly heavy, if racked by someone who bothered torquing down the rack screws. If you have a rack full of switches, I'll bet you money that the switches toward the middle and bottom of the rack are much more difficult to unrack than the ones in the top quarter or third. Of course, that doesn't affect performance, and doesn't usually matter until you're tearing down a site.
> Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually Might sag a bit, but it's fine. It's not really that heavy compared to some switches.
OP says they are a shitty sysadmin but I have had this very same fear. I had a nightmare one time that I mounted one of these with just the front brackets and woke up the next day and it had sagged to the extreme and bent like a taco and taken the whole site offline.
I did a UPS rollout on a campus a while ago. They required ears to be installed at the front despite the mid mount option working fine for almost all locations. They sagged a bit but it was left like that. I came back to one room to figure out why some had gone offline. There was construction in the area and, thanks to drywall dust and a very clear boot print, a contractor had stepped on them as a foot stool to reach a cable tray at the top of the rack. Lots of twisted metal. After that they still wouldn’t mid mount them, and instead rolled out some really fancy high density cellulose support columns (a chopped up 2x4).
Curious why the solution didn't include a sheet of paper that says NOT A STEP
This reminds me of one time when I was demoing some gear out of a rack. A UPS was installed around half to 2/3 the way towards the top of the rack. I unscrewed the front ears and went to slide the UPS out. The battery tray slid straight out of the UPS, down three or four feet, and right on my feet. My toes hurt so bad I thought sure one or more had been amputated. I went to my office and shut the door to cry and check. Fortunately they were not. Apparently what one of my fellow shitty sysadmins had done when they last replaced the battery in this UPS, was to not screw down the battery tray....
That about removing the battery tray before the dismount. Might make it a bit lighter.
Yeah, I usually do that kind of thing with equipment when it's a bit heavier than I can handle. We typically use the standard 2U UPS models and they're usually easy enough to handle on their own.
lmao I love this
Yeah, I had that thought when I first started getting into this business, but then I saw old switches (that aren't light) mounted the same way that had been like that for a decade or longer, so I stopped worrying about it.
Now I’m picturing those melty clock paintings except it’s servers n shit…. “Your firmware has been updated to a different state of matter” goddammit Microsoft *literally* vaporized the DC… I didn’t think that’s what they meant by “cloud-based”
You can turn the tungs of the brackets towards the top of the switch and mount under a desk or permanent shelf. If you do not have a rack to put it in.
I had a colleague who was clueless when I told him to mount a small field switch under a desk by turning the brackets 90 degrees… was like he saw water burning.
That’s what I was thinking, that combined with the assurances of everyone here that mounting switches like this is normal has me feeling a lot less nervous about mounting it like this lol.
just throw it on top of other device, it'll be fine, trust me
Yep, stack from the bottom up! It’s all good
Yeah bro all my switches are "Stacked"
Shhhh.. That's why they give the small square rubber "feet" in the box with the switch. You are supposed to separate them and place them in on the bottom in the corners. 😀
If you lift a ceiling tile and put it up there, anyone who goes into that Comms room will wonder why the hell there’s all those network cables going up there.
There are two correct answers to this question, and a third if you have no other options. What you have there is a 2 post rack, generally found in telecom. For more server oriented stuff, you'll usually find the vastly superior 4 post rack. 1. Using screws compatible with the pre-tapped rack holes, secure the switch to the rack using the brackets or "ears" attached to it. This method is least preferable, and your switch absolutely will sag. 2. Get the manufacturers 2-post rail kit for this switch, if they sell one. Contact your VAR and ask for them to find it for you, and quote you. There will be no sag. This is the best, and most preferable option. 3. Do this if you have absolutely no other options. Buy a shelf for a 2 post rack. Set the switch on the shelf, and cry. Try not to bump the shelf. Try to do the 2 post rail kit.
I would attach the ears to the switch backwards so that the part which mounts to the rack will be in a few inches. That at least gives you a little bit towards the center of gravity on the switch.
I came here to say this. Obviously not ideal, but even a little bit of forward weight can be helpful. Cisco is shipping similarly mounted switches still (though the bracket is a tad longer). I wouldn't recommend putting anything on top of it unless you're talking about a feather collection though ...
It’ll sag, all switches do. Just been talking to HPE about this switch, management plane supports IPv6, but the routing engine doesn’t. Supposedly lodged as a feature request for IPv6 routing.
You can flip the bracket 180 to help with weight balance, it’s still only 80/20 ish but better than 100/0 weight distribution.
The nice thing about 48 port switches is you only need about 30 cat6 cables to safely dangle the switch from the top of the mdf. Plenty of room for expansion! Just stagger the ports you use so it hangs evenly.
Bonus points if you didn't make the cables but bought them. Edit. Damn was supposed to be cables and not cakes. Autocorect got me. 😀
Always make your own cakes in the machine room. “Heatsink brownies” are my specialty.
most of switches I set up are mounted this way. I never had any trouble.
Just set it on top of anther pice of equipment. Make sure you block the air vent of the machine you set it on so that it maintains a high internal temperature
But once that you have one in, all the switches above it don't need pesky cage nuts and screws.
Just set it on top of something that is already racked. Just slam the power into whatever power port is close by (even if you have to drape it across systems or pathways). Done and done.
Just put it on top of the old one. Cool to be able to keep it as a shelf after paying 200 bucks for it used 9 years ago.
If you make a large enough gap in those patch cables and seat it in there, that should do.
Just toss it in the cabinet, how it lands will be the perfect spot.
Bungee cords
I don't do any rack installs. Can't you flip the bracket 180 so at least the ear is a few inches further back?
What is up with that rack
It's a two post network rack.
Your rack looks like it's missing the clip nuts and screws. You need these to screw the switch to the rack securely. If you do all four screws it will hang there just fine. They wouldn't make two post racks if it didn't support equipment like this.
It’ll be fine. Usually these things are bolstered by their neighbors anyway, but it’ll last forever even if it’s all alone. Been there, done that. If you want to ‘help’ it, rotate the brackets 180°, that will center the load a bit.
Just sit it on top of the rack.
Rest it on top of another server, the way god intended.
15 years of racking experience here, typical to sag on its own. The idea is if stacked with other items the collective will hold up the saggy boys. I've also been told stacking helps keep the appliances cooler than being stand alone which didn't make any sense to me. A Lot of these perceivably poor form factors are this way because the entire industry decided on it decades back and since then manufacturers advance features and cram more redundancy into higher priced units. May not look safe and may not sit straight on its own but the metals they use will certainly bend before they will shear or snap. They have support solution specific to 2 post racks, but they pricey and hard to justify. https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/1u-2-post-rack-rails-19-inch/apd/a0389974/power-cooling-data-center-infrastructure?tfcid=91049735dgc=opl&gacd=9684992-1102-5761040-266906002-0&dgc=ST&SA360CID=71700000117208879&&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwps-zBhAiEiwALwsVYU7vLq9VejO86NDbvB0ZSvk03Vv9Ma0lE7B6WCFv5rQhAFO_GulKaRoC88kQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
First time?
Yep! That’s exactly how most switches mount. You put two screws through the ears and let it sag. Other heavier equipment will come with more substantial mounting hardware, but just ears is the standard for most things. Not a shitty admin, just shitty standards in the industry
Jbweld
You have to get corrective surgery to convert your member to RJ-45 form factor(s). Then mount away!
/r/lostredditors
Its like turtles, the next switch down the rack supports it and prevents sag. It's switches all the way down and don't talk about routers.
yes that steel bracket will easily hold it in place on the steel rack. I have a two post rack in my basement with 8, 48 port switches mounted exactly like that, even the really deep POE switches sit straight and don’t slump or sag. you’ll be fine
Velcro, duct tape, zip ties. In that order. Sideways of course.
Pretty coomon to have the back end of switches sag. If it bothers you: Install a shelf, put it on that.
Stupid, yet ubiquitous design. It will sag, but it will hold. Crank down all those screws with 2 ugga-duggas each. Same for the rack screws. You'll worry, then you'll forget to worry and in 6 months you'll have a bunch of other equipment and cabling stacked up on it and those little ear bracket machine screws will be holding on for dear life.
If I learned anything from watching people, work on cars is if you need to connect two things together, a couple self tappers is always the answer.
Duct Tape
>Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually? Generally they may sag a few mm when mounted only at the front, but with the correct screws these should mount OK eventually.
Epoxy it to the rack.
You have to contact the union hall and have the gnomes come hold it up.
Just dangle it
Hi, network engineer for a hospital. We have two post racks all around the organization and huge enterprise switches exactly like this. Just screw that bitch on and let it sag. If you can get something underneath it to help support then by all means but otherwise not much else you can do. Broomstick underneath maybe.
Had this instance once, or twice. Get a screw that will thread a little larger in the hole (hehe), even though that 1U would be useless for anything in the future it would work. Or just set the switch on top of something that’s already mounted.
They sell trays if you want to be like me.
Ethernet cables were meant to be load bearing. Make a cradle on the back of the switch out of cables to alleviate sagging.
Very carefully.
Just put it on the floor with the rest of the switches. The fuck do you mean mount it? This isn't some graphic novels where you pretend it's the girlfriend you wish you had. Try mounting one of the land whales, I hear they are popular, at least if recent memes are to be believed.
Carefully
Get a better switch lol.
Or a shelf.
Weld it.
Steel beams don't bend on firewalls.
super lazy proper way is # Vertical Rack and Wall Mountable Server Rack Mount but .. of course, it's just a one time job and you can't attach anything outwards to it lol
Drill baby, drill
Drill baby drill
Step 1: cut a hole in the switch Step 2: stick your dick in the switch Step 3: ?
Go to a hardware store and match the machine screws to the holes if rack ear stuff is missing. And buy a bolt hole matching block to compare the rack holes to the correct bolt size. Get washers between the rack ears and bolts used to mount switch to rack
Get out the welder (aka internet comment generator), it's the only choice.
We've always had to order rail kits for ours... Extreme switches basically work the same.
Toss in on the ground and forget. This is the way shitty sysadmin does.
Something like this might work: https://www.racksolutions.com/20in-telco-rack-shelves.html?config=771-2389&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4DMSL_xr2vEiShFi2CYvS9olb6htrXUH2o1rffpnuAf-Nyk_UMnlhRoCMm0QAvD_BwE
That's the neat part: You don't Just stand it up on the floor instead. Surely nothing horrible will happen. This is also a helpful tip when you need to save space in the rack. If anything happens, it's the janitor's fault.
Don't see the rack entirely, but you need this [this](https://www.titanox.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/150001-2-500x500.jpg)
Just place it on top of another switch, server, firewall, or other rack mounted device. No screws needed!
serious answer : i'd mount that above another rack mounted device that has a bit more support. shittySysadmin answer : thats a networking problem
Those brackets can hold a surprisingly large amount of weight.
Stick it on top of one of the other pieces of equipment. Obviously.
The C-shaped profile is fine for network switches most of the time. It will sag a little bit, that’s normal… Make absolutely sure you are using the correct screws for the rack. If you strip out the hole, it’s basically unusable afterwards. Make sure you don’t cross-thread the screw. Do not use some type of impact driver as even garbage rack screws are harder than the aluminum the rack is made of.
OP, you can turn those brackets 180 degrees to push the switch a (very) little forward. That will take a (very) little weight off the tail end of the switch. Or buy a rack shelf to mount and lay the switch in the shelf. Dealers choice.
that shelf looks like a good place to leave it, just get the really long cat5 cables
Buy a network rack shelf.
The Joy of the good old days. Duct tape.
>Am I actually supposed to secure it to the rack using only these brackets? Won’t the torque from the weight of the device cause it to sag and possibly break off eventually? Yes and no. I've mounted way heavier (i.e Aruba 6300 which is 5.47 kg (12.06 lbs) ) devices using front rack ears only. Heavy devices will sag a bit but nothing will break. Check this [Aruba Instant On 1930 Installation and Getting Started](https://www.arubanetworks.com/techdocs/InstantOn_1930_Switch/InstantOn_1930_IGSG.pdf), rack installation starts on page 24
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