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Cinderdreams

I like it :)


Grimpresent

God I have so much sympathy for the Kurds. Great job OP.


Dramandus

Based.


[deleted]

Fighting for freedom by killing children in İstanbul amk. Or stealing Syrian oil. They control a third of Syria's territory and half of its oil reserves. Guess who is buying that oil? The USA. Guess why Syria had so many preventable casualties in the recent earthquake? Because Türkiye, Kurdish terrorists, and America are all stealing from them. İn fact, the corrupt Türkish state is even buying oil from the Kurds too. These people are tools of US Imperialism and an important asset in keeping Syria divided and preventing Syrians from having self-determination.


HellsEngels

Ah yes all kurds are the same. Just like how Saddam and Erdoğan tell me so. Kurdish groups like the pkk are labelled terrorist groups here in Europe, and the turkish state routinely oppresses them and gets away with it as its a junior partner in European and British imperialist interests in the middle east. Its a lot more gray than that black and white, and it needs concrete analysis based on the lresent conditions and class character. Itd be like me saying all Syrians are islamic fundamentalists or all ukranians are neo nazis, or all americans are war criminals because one group/org/state power does something I dont like. Also ignoring the history of imperialism and colonialism in the middle east leading to several ethnic groups and communities being left out of state building by britian and france with their arbitrary border creations.


[deleted]

PKK literally are terrorists. İt's not even a debate. Whatever claim they had to being communists they lost long ago. Öcalan has taken to straight up writing anti-Semitic rants now and nothing more. Yes, the Türkish state is disgusting and oppresses and murders Kurds. This is a very nuanced topic, but let me tell you, what the PKK does is divorced from class struggle or even (misguided, again, we need to get deeper into theory discussion to actually represent the region) national struggle. İslamism dominates the PKK. They are terrorists. This is the perspective of me, a Türkish communist whose girlfriend is half Kurdish with PKK family members literally in prison rn. İ apologize if my first comment came off really aggressive, but these people are not doing good things.


Capital_Tone9386

You're right, they should simply give up and let Al-Assad walk over them. Proper praxis is when you give up and bow down to dictators. Everyone knows that


Unga_bunga_124

Who must go?


[deleted]

Let me remind you of an important quote. "The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism. For the same reasons, the struggle that the Egyptians merchants and bourgeois intellectuals are waging for the independence of Egypt is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the bourgeois origin and bourgeois title of the leaders of Egyptian national movement, despite the fact that they are opposed to socialism; whereas the struggle that the British "Labour" Government is waging to preserve Egypt's dependent position is for the same reason a reactionary struggle, despite the proletarian origin and the proletarian title of the members of the government, despite the fact that they are "for" socialism." - J. Stalin


HellsEngels

Okay apply that quote to this context. What should have the kurdish peoples done in Syria? Allowed themselves to be steamrolled by Turkish ultranationalists (on behalf of the UK and EU), be steamrolled by ISIS (on behalf of Islamic fundamentalism), be steamrolled by the Rebels (on behalf of the US) or be steamrolled by the Syrian goverment on behalf of the emergent Russian state? Honestly it seems like youre not even applying the Stalin quote to your own thinking, and weirdly think Assad is the antihero fighting imperialism when instead the actual anti imperialist position would be anti war/intervention and opposing your own nations military involvement.


[deleted]

What makes you think I'm not doing that? As for Syria, Kurdish rebels are the ones working for the US. Why are they driving Humvees hmm? Whatever the Kurds are "for" it doesn't matter, because in reality they are weapons of the US. The primary contradiction in Syria is the interference by foreign powers and their inability to practice self-determination. Assad İS fighting imperialism. And he will be revolutionary until imperialism in Syria is defeated. At which point, he will become reactionary and I will cheer for Syrian communists to struggle against him. However, as it currently stands, the national Syrian bourgeois and proletariat are united as the primary contradiction is to repair their country and achieve self-determination.


MrBlack103

This is what internalised American exceptionalism does to your brain.


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ItsACaragor

90% of Kurds are muslims