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sneakymekboi

FFS I just want to play doom with Boltguns. Twitter ruins everything


Ordinary_Diamond6789

Play it and ignore Twitter then, let's be real twitter is just a active crime scene


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

It's just another right wing cesspool. Everyone whose not a reactionary chud will quit soon enough, and then the whole thing will collapse because a right wing cesspool isn't any fun for the chuds because there's no libs to own. And the company will burn down because no advertisers will touch it with a ten foot pole. Elon is such a galaxybrain bizness man.


tobiashenley

I ditched it once I realised the mass of chuds were just making me angry and sad. Somehow contrary to what I’d have believed 10 years ago, Reddit is the best.


Ezaviel

I dropped off the bird site when Elon bought it. Likewise discovered to my surprise that Reddit is much less toxic. Or at least, you can just hang out in non-toxic communities.


PoliticsComprehender

> Everyone whose not a reactionary chud will quit soon enough I disagree. The twitterati will not quit Twitter for all the same reasons crack cocaine addicts don't generally quit crack.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

Disagree. Journalists and publications are all abandoning it after the 'state sponsored media' debacle and the substack attack. Unless you want to be a reactionary chud, there's less and less there. And the more chuddery there is, the less anyone else wants to be there. Brands pulled advertising and don't want to do the engagement stuff there anymore. Plenty of celebs are leaving for same reasons.


PoliticsComprehender

> Journalists and publications These people , and I don't mean this as a "dis", really don't matter anymore. In 2023 it's all about E celebrities and people with clout that drive engagement and they, as a whole there are exceptions,are not going anywhere because they can't as they are social parasites and Twitter is the straw that allows them to suck the blood out of the general populace. I could be wrong but that is my take on it.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

I disagree that they don't matter. They add respectability and gravitas to Twitter. When you read a Washington Post article and Tweet at the writer and they reply, that's a big gas to your desire to be on Twitter. That electrifies people. They have a rarefied status above the common plebs. If one of them responds to you, that's interesting. If a social influencer does that's just part of the parasocial relationship and them brand building. If you're a fan it's a big deal but there's so many of those people, it's way more diluted.


EthanCC

I think the best summary I've heard of why Twitter is fucked is: "If companies *wanted* to advertise on a far right social network they'd be doing it already."


AbraxasNowhere

No libs to own, AKA the downfall of Gab.


The_Maganzo

If you actually think Twitter of all places is a right wing cesspool then I have some lovely beachfront property to sell you.


Totenhorn

Twitter gets worse and worse every day and even if I block and block without mercy there are still tons of *actually good* people who *repost* all the vile shit just to dunk on it - which doesn't hurt the assholes but just increases their reach! Who taught this kids how to fight, this is so not how you do it?!


ThatFlyingScotsman

The game is fucking phenomenal, just play and enjoy. Twitter weirdos will find any reason to be horny for murder.


sneakymekboi

Have been playing it and I agree. Just sucks to have this shit in the back of my head when playing it though.


siyahlater

Could I interest you in Ashes Afterglow/2063? Boomer shooters that i fucking love that have more gameplay character and a deeper story. Plus they are free!


sneakymekboi

Downloading it now. Saw gameplay of it and I got some major STALKER vibes from it


siyahlater

I did three playthroughs of it. The first one felt brutal but I got used to the system and learned to manage my resources a bit more. Then I did a slow, methodical exploration, then a third run with the difficulty cranked up. I'm very excited for the third installment coming up. I have plans to 3D sculpt the guns into bits for my minis.


MedicineShow

Yeah like to be clear, this is just some guy right? This isn't a dev or someone making money off the game?


metameh

Boltgun is $20. Chex Quest is free. Just sayin'.


Beardamus

X multiplayer game costs Y, Enemy Territory is free. Just sayin'


toiletxd

Freedoom is free and allows you to load in doom wads. And also Wolfenstein blade of agony, which I think this subreddit will love.


Grimpresent

If you’re gonna let chuds ruin your enjoyment that’s gonna sour you on all of 40k. This is the type of idiot that’s so dense GW has had to out multiple press releases refuting him. Have fun and don’t worry about it


Crish-P-Bacon

It’s fun, it has nurglins, sassy ones, and they are annoying.


Generic-Profile1

No no, you don't get it, they're the good guys because they have cool armor. I have multiple degrees in media literacy


lzfour

If that’s how it works then chaos are the good guys imo


twosecondhero

Always were


Mackejuice

I don't see the lie?


Beep_Boop_Bort

Chaos are the good guys


GoblinFive

I personally have more than 90 degrees of media literacy.


Final-Professional37

I have 360 degrees in media literacy, cause when I see media I turn 360 degrees and walk away


Jotaro_Lincoln

If you make a 360 degree turn you’re facing the same way as when you started though…


doglenin

Certified PHD in brainrot


AllISeeAreGems

Seriously, just some 3edgy5u shit.


Askew0313

Pizza cutter. All edge, no point.


Hellion_Immortis

How the hell does Goblin Slayer have anything to do with it?


AllISeeAreGems

Because Goblin Slayer and unironic views of the Imperium of Man as 'good guys' are the two cornerstones of edgelords like this.


tzaanthor

Edgelord is a whole tier above this level of thinking. We're talking lizard brain level stupid.


Fact_Donator

That's a massive insult to Lizards tbh


tzaanthor

Yeah, they work for scale.


Hellion_Immortis

The Imperium are protagonists, but not the good guys. Geedubs has outright confirmed that. Goblin Slayer is more an antihero I think. He does what he does because of a traumatic goblin raid on his hometown when he was young. The genocide he commits is viewed more as a necessary evil due to that. Pretty much every faction in 40k is fighting to survive. Goblin Slayer kills goblins in order to make the world more safe for people. Doesn't really make it less edgy, though I do enjoy Goblin Slayer. Should read the manga more and give the anime a go, when I have the time for it.


RommDan

> The genocide he commits is viewed more as a necessary evil due to that. This is why I hate evil races, there's no nuance of any kind, just what racist bigot want reality to be.


MerryRain

Goblin Slayer makes a big deal of justifying genocide of subhuman races it also features close up panty shots of teenage girls pissing themselves multiple times it's shit


AllISeeAreGems

Not to mention the many flavors of >!rape!< dotted throughout the chapters.


RedMashie

It's Berserk without substance


MerryRain

Exactly! I dont blanket oppose sexual violence in media, but Gobshite Slapper unambiguously regards all its female "characters" as sex objects - having them *all* discussed as such, while prioritising shots of TnA at every opportunity - and these scenes are no different. Its used for mindless kick-the-dog goblin-bad exposition and *at the same time* is practically pornographic levels of fan service. Its a fucking indictment of its audience.


mrpakiman

So Beserk...


Sablus

I like the cracked video essay take that goblin slayer also represents societal labor that's important but undervalued/underpaid, i.e. goblins impact the poorest most vulnerable people (poor peasants etc) but these problems are undervalued as they don't impact individuals up the class ladder unless a merchant gets their carts stolen. Still though metaphors by overall race being evil is very blase/overplayed in the fantasy field.


slantedtortoise

I think that's the first take I've ever heard of goblin slayer that isn't thinly veiled "the strong must not suffer the weak" fash bs. I did watch a few episodes of the first season - it all becomes more frustrating when every other person in the Slayers party has things going on that would be amazing to explore but nope more goblin murder.


Sablus

Its honestly hard to avoid anime slop that doesnt have reactionary content oe tropes. I don't exactly like the show and I don't think that was an intentional theme given how it mainly focuses on grimdark fantasy tropes, but I do like Wisecrack (on cracked youtube channel) and what they can sus out of media and the intentional and possible intentional theme.


[deleted]

That is a interesting take on Goblin Slayer that I have seen before. A shame the actual work itself doesn't delve into that and is instead just edgelord trash. Like, believe me I tried to watch it and the whole gratuitous nature and edgy shit in it really turned me off pretty quickly. I think I bowed out by the third episode or something. Shield Hero also got the same reaction out of me due to the edgelordy stuff it also has.


JKillograms

Goblin Slayer is a show you either decide you’re going to love or hate it about five minutes into the first episode. It definitely isn’t for everybody. Counterpoint though, look up “Goblin Slayer vs. Goblin Champion” on YouTube, it’s hard not to get pumped at that scene in particular.


TimleyArrival

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but to be fair to Goblin Slayer and the always chaotic evil trope, there are a couple of settings where I am comfortable with always evil bad guys. Because I think sometimes it’s nice to have a faction that you can fight without feeling bad about it like Nazis. For example, the orcs, in lord of the rings and the Sabbat in VTM. Especially the latter I think it’s good to have an explicit bad guy faction in a world that dark. So I guess what I’m trying to say is that it depends on the setting, but I am sometimes comfortable with a group that you can fight and not feel bad about it. Of course the Sabbat is a better example because they are a faction and not a race.


ShardPerson

Tolkien himself was uncomfortable with the Orcs as purely evil "good to exterminate" enemies and would likely have re-written large parts of LotR if he had a few more decades. And VtM is an anti-semitic disaster, really bad examples there.


[deleted]

I like the Sabbat more is that they kind of have some nuance too them than just pure evil all of the time, some of them genuinely think that there way is better and that they need to prepare for the Antediluvians. Of course there way is not better but atleast they are right about the Antediluvians. Also I just like how batshit crazy the Tzimisce are.


TimleyArrival

Could be maybe? But the blood bond is pretty fucked up in and of itself, and the mutual blood bond is never a good thing. And the antediluvians’ are really bad for people in general, but so are the vast majority of vampires. Anyway the Sabbat really want to eat them for the power boost it will give them and then they want to enslave all of humanity. They are called out as vampire supremacists in the V5 book. And again, in a setting like that, it’s fun to have them show up and then watch all of the other factions band together it’s just long enough to fight them. Plus, it’s arguably one of the few times that your average Vampire will get to do anything remotely heroic.


EthanCC

The trick is that you make the bad guys powerful and influential, if you make them goblin tribes on the edge of civilization or something so that it's always punching down it winds up being uncomfortable. Also tie it to something they choose to be, not to a race. No matter how clear the writer tries to be that this isn't supposed to parallel something that's just not how people interpret media, so better to choose something to parallel that doesn't have Implications. I don't think most of those are good examples, really. Nazis sure, the rest have issues.


TimleyArrival

Well I like using the Sabbat as always evil bad guys because one of the central themes of V5 at least, is this inner struggle between your humanity and your beast. And the Sabbat have chosen to throw their humanity away and want to subjugate all the humans and use them as food because they believe that they are the superior species. To the point that even other vampires go. “Okay we’re monsters, but at least we’re not the Sabbat.”


Vyzantinist

> The Imperium are protagonists, but not the good guys. So many of the chuds do. Not. Fucking. Get. This. Protagonist =/= "good guy". I literally groan whenever I see one of them say "yeah well, even if GW says there's no good guys that's clearly not true because most of their books are from the Imperium's perspective." >Geedubs has outright confirmed that. They've not only said "there are no good guys", they even added "especially not the Imperium of Man". >Pretty much every faction in 40k is fighting to survive. But somehow only humans' fight for survival matters. Why is that? Oh wait, "as a human you should be rooting for the faction of humans." Cringe.


EthanCC

Half the factions aren't even fighting to survive, and that includes most of the Imperium's sub-factions if we're being honest.


BurlyJohnBrown

Goblin Slayer is probably one of the fashiest animes I've ever seen, which is saying something.


Beardamus

Attack on Titan goes full "Hitler was right, actually" in the later seasons.


JKillograms

I wasn’t a big fan of the ending myself and have some particular gripes with it that I can’t quite put into words, but that’s not being entirely fair. I still don’t really like the ending, but [here’s](https://youtu.be/VoHYZUj43K4) a video by left-leaning gay YouTuber in defense of the themes and ending of the show. Can’t say I completely agree, but he does make some pretty good points in its defense.


Beardamus

Oh it wasn't just the ending it was the entire themeing post time skip. I get the urge to defend media you like and it is just fantasy so its not a huge deal. I guess if you want to defend genocide as a means to achieve "utopia" and can't see the hitler relation we just have fundamentally different understandings of politics. Oh and its framed as the good way to achieve things. Can't forget that.


JKillograms

?? Where did I defend genocide? I said there are particular things about the tonal shift in the series I don’t think they stuck the landing on, and other things that actually were kinda clever and I did like. Like, I liked the subversion of the determined shonen hero trope, and the pay off that >!Eren *always* was a psychopath!< and personality traits the would’ve been positive quirks turned out to be something negative here. I also liked the twist that >!everything turned out to be part of a stable time loop resulting from Eren having the power of both the Attack Titan and the Coordinate, and how a lot of momentous events in the series were really the result of his psychic “ghost” haunting and influencing other people in the past, even before he ever got his Titan abilities.!!Yeagerists!< and how it showed that fundamentally, they were a bunch of losers and bullies that found a new sense of purpose only when they were in a position of authority and when they could wield that against someone else. The parts I didn’t like too much were >!Eren is easily forgiven by his friends, who realize him deciding to become THE villain for the rest of the world that they had to fight against was for their benefit, and they all kinda just roll with it. It gets accepted for what it was, none of the surviving main cast, not even Armin, Jean, or even Levi have anything to harsh to say about it and just accept it as the “best” option for the situation they were in. Like I could even get on board with them failing to stop The Rumbling as a subversion of heroes saving the day, but Eren wipes out *80%* of the entire world, and all his former friends are just like “ehn, whaddya gonna do?” and shrug their shoulders. Granted, the epilogue shows it was all for nothing and it only postponed more wars for a few more generations, and the last few panels hint that someone else might stumble onto the Titan Power, and humanity is doomed to repeat the same mistakes until it wipes itself out.!< I mean, I *think* that’s what it’s trying to go for, but I don’t think it really lands the way it was intended, and there was obviously a lot of discontent over the series ending on that note. But I also think it’s important to remember, you don’t HAVE to agree with the shows, books, games, etc. you enjoy. I can be entertained by something, while also not fully agreeing with every part of its messaging.


JKillograms

It’s exploitative and leans into indulgent revenge fantasy, but I wouldn’t call it exactly “fashy”. Goblin Slayer himself is actually really kind and compassionate to anyone and everyone in the show that’s not a goblin, despite his difficulty communicating it and connecting with people due to his mental trauma, and the goblins themselves are just standard “always evil” fantasy orcs cranked to the max.


EthanCC

>Goblin Slayer himself is actually really kind and compassionate to anyone and everyone in the show that’s not a goblin That bit's pretty fashy actually: "defending white women", "we're doing this because we love Germany", etc; that type of crap. Goblin Slayer is what fascists see themselves as, and goblins are what they see us as.


That_Bar_Guy

That same logic can be applied to call any fantasy series with bipedal monsters serving as villains fashy. Which is dumb.


ParasilTheRanger

Ah of course me, with a 2k+ army and several 500+ armies is a tourist because I think imperium bad. Great point there child Edit: I was gonna say chief but autocorrect had a better idea


beardedheathen

I was confused by tourist. The other two are pretty standard fascist hate targets but tourist?


AllISeeAreGems

Basically someone who plays the game without being able to name every follicle on Reboot Gendarme's Ultra-pubes because they think it looks fun and don't worry about reading several dictionaries worth of lore. See also 'fake fan'.


Mr_Dreadful

Also anybody who recognises that the lore is an ever-shifting narrative framework told by unrealiable narrators, rather than a set of sacred commandments that never changes


Eraith

I feel like the unreliable narrator is one of the strongest tools that 40k has and needs to be leant into more. I feel like if there were more books set of the same storyline from different perspectives it might help illustrate that more. But then again chuds are going to use any excuse to hold onto their dogshite ideology


Vyzantinist

I would argue it's also bog-standard conservative projection and ephemeral elitism. They acclaim themselves 'true fans' and jeer at 'noobs' and those they perceive as trying to change *their* setting. The narrative they're going for is their enemies don't even really like the game or the lore - they just came into it to change things because 'woke'. They're not invested like the 'old timers' - the *true* fans. Which is funny because I've seen way more of the chuds inadvertently out themselves by naming a then-new book/codex/supplement that they came into the game with, and the majority of these types came in 2015 onwards which, in comparison to my entry to the game with 2E makes *them* the newcomers. Another self-out is the sheer number of them who gleefully admit things like "I don't even know who the Emperor/Sanguinius/Horus/Eldrad etc. is, I just came here to gatekeep because I heard woketards are trying to ruin another IP! :D"


Ready_Cry5955

It goes further than that its just having any opinion remotely left leaning.


EthanCC

That's an easy one, they're all named "Cato Sicarius" and then a number.


ParasilTheRanger

They think obviously they're in the right by what GW means so any "real fans" must 100% agree with them. You can't be in the wrong if everyone who disagrees with you is just a visitor who doesn't play the game obviously. It's the same type of "go woke go broke" guys who think women, poc, and queer people don't play video games.


Floofyboi123

As a man who has read many guard books and is currently making a Commissar cosplay I agree Imperium bad Outside the Tau (and even that’s debatable) everyones bad. It’s kinda the point


Iridescent_Meatloaf

I'd argue as a (sub)faction, the Kroot are pretty decent. The 'cannibalism' is a little icky but essential to their survival and unless hired they're happy to leave others alone and are not default hostile to anyone.


ParasilTheRanger

Lmao I'm a woman making a skitarii cosplay too


TossMeAwayToTheMount

yeah boomer shooters are fantasitic to explore ideologies, look at how many nazis i killed in wolfenstein


Yepepsy

Check out these cultists i blew up in cultic


Jeffari_Hungus

Or all the Fr*nch you kill in Doom


kratorade

Psssht. Loyalists. This shit is why I'm Long War for Life. Everyone in this setting is a bastard, but our enemies are fascists and that makes us sympathetic by default. Pay no attention to the screaming daemonhosts and blood sacrifice happening in the background, it's fine, don't worry about it.


ReallyBadRedditName

Screw the corpse emperor, all my homies hate the corpse emperor. Ignore the guy in the back skinning people alive or the huge demon eating corpses.


Dockhead

If you understood the cultural context you would be fine with it


A_Union_Of_Kobolds

Damn straight! Death to the False Emperor!


Ropetrick6

Maybe the Men of Iron had a point...


jagdpanzer45

I mean, the fact that Votann effectively has friendly men of iron (so far as we know) solely because they view them as being people too does kinda make the Men of Iron seem a bit more justified. Like… they were sentient robots treated more or less as slaves, so I think an uprising was justified.


Shmyt

Especially because like all the xeno planets purged in the crusade it probably wasn't all just killer robots: it was likely also anyone peaceful with them, anyone who helped build and repair, anyone who had always been living there and they just stayed out of each other's space, and anyone in that sort of cyborg/transhumanism stage who wasn't swinging around Martian words. Justice for the Men of Iron.


[deleted]

>all the xeno planets purged in the crusade yes. Ignoring all the other shit the Imperius does and has done, they purged many many sapient species out of existance for not being human and weak enough to not meaningful resist militarily. The Imperium does not represent "tragically fallen good guys", its just straight up evil.


OVERLORDMAXIMUS

Reminder to everyone that the warp and it's denizens are the mirror of the imperium, every single thing that comes out is a reflection of what 'reality' is up to.


AxolotlAristotle

I have a 2k Salamander army because I like fire UwU But I also have a nightlord kill team that a friend made skin capes, bat wings, and other stuff for because you're supposed to be edgy in 40k and Nightlords are just edgy activists\^\^


Vyzantinist

Thousand Sons 4 life yo!


Icybenz

why why make that image bro you're cramping my fuckin style. I wanna Warhammer and not be associated with fuckwits like that


Domino31299

This is what they do, they invade the shit we like so we get associated with them in the hopes we’ll see their way of thinking


Sunder_struck

He sure isn't reading the same books I am


alph4rius

He is, just with a combination of his media literacy handicapped by his ideology and GW's inconsistent presentation of their setting.


ShardPerson

You mean the ones with "genetically superior" supermen armies, deviancy leading to literal demonic possession, lizard people conspiracies being true but with bugs, and several species that have to be eradicated because they're literally just pure evil so genocide's ok? Sure seems like the ones i've read


Original-Wing-7836

Oh my lord you are trying so, so hard and reaching so far.


Newbizom007

God they’re so fuckijg cringe. It’s wild. It never ends


I-Hate-Wasps

>the books have always done a good job of showing the importance of conviction in the face of heretical sympathy. his ass does NOT have basic reading comprehension skills


AGildedSpork

The game itself is actually so fun! It's a shame there are so many of these wackos.


Ortimandias

I like that [I mentioned that 40k fandom has a fascist problem](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/13h6edv/comment/jk4eo6c/) and suddenly people show up and say that there isn't one and it's not common.


SlayerofSnails

Well, I personally hate gatekeeping but in this case it's a good thing. Gatekeep these fuckers, kick them out, show them their nazi ass will not be missed.


Araignys

"Who do you think these gates were built to keep out?"


Steelquake

>voiced by brown guy (Rahul Kholi) >this is why white supremacism is good guys You literally can't make up stupidity this extreme. And they have the gall to call other people tourists.


Proper_Librarian_533

GW: this is actually satire on how bad this shit is Fash trash: got it, I should make this my whole life GW: please stay the fuck away from us and our events FT: a small mind is easily filled with faith. I'll make mine as small as possible! GW: 🤦


LettersfromEsther

GW: portrays most of the aliens and chaos as ultimate evil that never stops multiplying and will destroy everything, downplays more viscerally unpleasant imperial stuff like servitors in a lot of official artwork, compared to earlier editions it’s much cleaner, markets marines and imperium as heroes and escapist power fantasy GW: says satire in one press release because the Nazis got the message and they don’t want the bad PR


MrSnippets

100%. GW and their fans like to bang the drum about 40k being anti-fash, but the official artwork is just so ... weirdly heroic. Back in the 90s, Marines got shot in the face, were ugly as fuck and you were *certain* they were just another galactic bully trying to kill the other galactic bullies so their faction would be the only one who could bully on a galactic scale. Nowadays, it's all tacticool, unironic "neccessary evil" bullshit


[deleted]

I really hate that part about how the Imperium is portrayed now. It's pretty consistent that stories with them will portray their actions as heroic necessary evils and that the other factions are worse and I just have to ask...why? Wouldn't it be more ideal to portray all factions that aren't the Orks or some of the Tyranids as having some kind of nuance and not being a bunch of planet of the hats tropes to justify the fascist faction to do evil upon other factions. Like wouldn't fans of every faction win in that sense? It also frustrates me to as I want to like the Imperium (they have metalhead aesthetics I can vibe with) but man I am so tired of their constant focus that seems oddly heroic slanted whilst other factions are left in the dust in focus and used as punching bags as well. But yeah, its unsurprising to me that the Imperium has a fair bit of fascist fans of them considering how they are portrayed as both genocidal and seemingly given a heroic framing about it.


Elerran05

I mean, they literally have a line of models called 'Space Marine Heroes'. The whole thing is that ugly clash between someone making an edgy, irreverent IP where everyone sucks and the multimillion corporation that is trying to simultaneously keep their old vibe while also sanitising everything to reach the widest market possible. The Imperium is perpetually in a tug of war between being a rotten, bigoted, soulless machine and being the faction the cool space men who make all the money are from. It may be a controversial idea but honestly I think the only way they can try to shake off the fashy appeal is to do a clean break where they split the Imperium in two and turn Marines into the unambiguous good guys in the same way Stormcast Eternals were portrayed in early AoS. That way they can have their evil, gritty human factions and turn Marines fully into the marketing tool they've essentially been for the past decade or so.


Proper_Librarian_533

Them being portrayed as heroes is part of the satire. People laud these monstrous villains as heroes. Think how fash worship anti heroes like Tyler Durden.


ShardPerson

Show me a single bit of Boltgun that is satire or portrays the Imperium as bad


sajuuksw

The servo-skull that accompanies the player character has pretty consistent quips like this (paraphrased): "100,000 citizens of the Imperium died to make this bridge. Their corpses now litter the valley below. Glory to the Emperor for their sacrifice!" So, it's there, but super easy to miss.


Original-Wing-7836

Um, every taunt the SM makes after killing something? You people try way too hard to take shit too seriously.


Proper_Librarian_533

"If you come to a Games Workshop event or store and behave to the contrary, including wearing the symbols of real-world hate groups, you will be asked to leave. We won’t let you participate. We don’t want your money. We don’t want you in the Warhammer community." https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/


ShardPerson

the same week they put that out they announced Space Marine 2, a game with more mass appeal than any of the 40k based wargames and books, that features an unquestioningly pro-Imperium setup, the first game went so far as to have a classic "the soldiers that want to do great deals are held back by cowardly bureaucrats" plot It rang hollow then, it rings hollow now


Proper_Librarian_533

Yeah. That's the satire. I guess fuck them for assuming people are intelligent or have a modicum of media literacy. 🤷🏼


meed0k

I hope GW reveals a lost primarch to be a woman just to piss this guy off


Bullet-Not-Proof

Dorn comes back as a trans woman


ShornVisage

Rogalia Dorn


LettersfromEsther

They’ll keep portraying the fascists as beleaguered heroes or at least necessary evils but they’ll make one of them a women! Win for leftism! That’ll deter fascists who’ve never tolerated sex and gender differences if they’re subordinate to the fascist cause


meed0k

Uhh...wat?


Otherwise_Ambition_3

There are so many 40k chuds on Twitter it’s ridiculous Reddit is unironically better in terms of average iq


Neuvost

friendly fyi that iq is racist nonsense. and I don't wanna be the fun police, but even memeing about chuds being low iq reinforces the cultural normalcy of its awful core concept: that it's even possible to determine a single number that fairly and truly judges all the complexity of a human being's cognition. [Here's an in-depth vid (that I learned a lot from) about the most popular advocates of IQ and their book 'The Bell Curve',](https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo) but you can also just imagine how much eugenicists like IQ


Commander_Tarmus

Fucker's bringing p\*litics into my cool game.


MrSnippets

> Wake up in my IKEA bed > put on clothes sewn in a bangladeshi sweatshop > drink columbian coffee picked by child labour > drive to work in japanese car. can't use public traffic since it was dismantled by legislature made for car lobbyists > after work: unwind playing a game of 40k, my favourite apolitical hidden gem. complain about the damn globalists and how America should just close its borders


TheFistula

D-did this person even watched Bolt Gun's launch trailer? How did not catch the obvious irony of this game?


Sablesweetheart

Jfc.....what absolute brainrot. Now give me a DLC where I can play as a Night Lord.


pfcsock

Someone really missed the point of the books


Remnant55

Ok help me out with this one please: Tourist?


AllISeeAreGems

>Basically someone who plays the game without being able to name every follicle on Reboot Gendarme's Ultra-pubes because they think it looks fun and don't worry about reading several dictionaries worth of lore. See also 'fake fan'. \^ Copypaste of what I said in another comment.


Remnant55

Danke!


cliffhenderson

I’m pretty sure tourist is also used as a dog whistle in fascist circles for perceived immigrants/foreigners.


ccminiwarhammer

WTF is satire?


comrade-todd11

Hmmm yes the boomer shooter based in a world where humanity lives under the most repressive fascistic regime imaginable built on the bones of countless genocides is clearly about how cringe sjws are I am very smart


The_Whomst

"Stawp making warhammer pOliTiCaL!!" The same people:


AdExtension4159

fash really showing that they have the media literacy of a 3 year old lmao


I_Draw_Teeth

Aesthetics is core to the whole ideology of fascism. Fascist art tends to be devoid of themes or meaning. So when the co-opt stuff that is more textured and nuanced, they strip it down to the superficial aesthetic elements that appeal to them and ignore the rest.


Vyzantinist

Wow. You've just perfectly explained for me the seemingly paradoxical conservative Star Trek fan - I've heard before "they don't remember anything besides the cool spaceship battles," but you've described the phenomenon in a much better way.


I_Draw_Teeth

It's why satire is such a double edged sword with fascism. It's really easy to make fun of them, because they're so gawd damn stupid, but just about any satire of fascists no matter how saccharine or on the nose can be turned around and used by them for recruitment/propaganda.


LettersfromEsther

Can we stop pretending that the fascists just ‘don’t get the satire’ and admit that the 40k setting just hasn’t been satire for a while, and that it’s been more and more consistently written, designed and marketed to lionize the fascists and appeal to fascist animus because $$$? Or has at least done an extremely bad job of satire, if there’s any attempt at all? Like, I watched the trailer for Boltgun and there was no trace of critique or nuance. It was just ‘KILL HERETICS AND DEMONS BE A COOL SPACE MARINE WITH AWESOME WEAPONS’ and no, no one coming into the franchise with that game is going to read a novel series to get the deep context behind ‘kill the bad guys’ because that’s what most recent video games of the setting reduce it to. Boomer shooters are designed to make you feel cool and awesome as you gun down countless enemies in bloody maelstroms. Fascism is libidinal.


doglenin

Idk, playing boltgun i got the same vibe as duke nukem or shadow warrior; that being none of it is to be taken seriously because there's almost 0 actual plot.


[deleted]

I love Warhammer so much but it's definetely the kind of game that lets these weirdos fullfil their wet dreams


symposiarchfh

Me Yesterday: finally a piece of 40k that literally no one can consume unironically. Chuds: Hold my notbudlight


Ignisiumest

did this man even read the fucking books


[deleted]

Man's unironically likes genocide. I knew there were people like this in the hobby but holy shit


PastramiReuben

When someone posts hateful shit like this there is absolutely no need to protect them and hide their name. You're basically just spreading their message for free.


SquidCultist002

What 0 media literacy does to a mf


Barmn89

I saw that too, and I didn't wanna share them around cause they clearly are just being edgy, but yeah holy shit


Zucchinikill

If the alternative is to agree with whoever tweeted that brain sputum, I’d happily consider myself a “tourist”.


rabiddutchman

Idiots like this are why I wait to tell people I'm into 40k


ADH-Dork

This is just advanced "im not racist I just like painting swastikas for historical accuracy"


1000Raaids

Wait till he finds out a desi guy is the voice actor lmfao. these people are insane.


TheActualAWdeV

>core tenant this guy is definitely a landlord, smh


commandough

Gah. It was the X, the Y, the Z. NO OR


YoyBoy123

Drop the @ i just want to have a few words


[deleted]

Least sane W40K fan


AxolotlAristotle

Wtf do cons have against tourists? Like I get they hate minorities and lefties but why fucking tourists? One of the only reasons the South HAS an economy is because of tourism (the other is government subsidies)


SerBuckman

"Tourist" here apparently just means "fake fan who picked up Boltgun without much prior knowledge of the setting because it looked fun"


AxolotlAristotle

Oh. So basically, they think the hobby is currently ruled by chud nazis and anyone who is remotely interested in getting into Warhammer is a leftist activist? Granted that WAS me two years ago when I got into the hobby but I mean. I'm a breadtuber with a philosophy degree I really don't think I'm the norm...


Unu51

Please tell me this is satire.


Playful_Movie

Dude, needs to see a therapist and get off fox news for the rest of his life.


SamuraiMujuru

For a moment I allowed myself to believe that this was probably just a troll. Then I noticed anime girl holding a confederate battle flag profile pic.


-Eastwood-

On a less related note, this game is fucking awesome.


Looong_Feminine_Legs

No the core tenant is your ideology is a joke and you’re too stupid to realise everyone’s laughing at you


PandaSkeleton

Seeing this reminded me not to browse the 40k tag on twitter. Pretty sure they are just an actual child.


justendmylife892

Every tweet I see makes me happier that I have never touched Twitter.


ComradeKeira

Dude has a confederate flag in his pfp. Shocker


XxX_BobRoss_XxX

The disconnect between the way some fans act and my general experience with 40k is hilarious. Like, I went to my local GW store recently and they were SUPER supportive and nice, helped me out with getting the paints I needed and such. Just honestly pleasant to be around, and the vast majority of the 40k commmunity has been really nice to me as well. But some of the guys on twitter? Yikes.


Vyzantinist

There's bound to be a disconnect in how safe they feel coming out as keyboard warriors online vs. actually flapping their gums in public. As much as a lot of them think they have anything in common with Henry Cavill, the truth is they're probably more like stereotypical, grossly overweight, feeble basement-dwellers; you probably wouldn't be able to identify most chuds in person because they'd be too scared of getting their nuts stomped on.


XxX_BobRoss_XxX

Yeah, I get that. I'm still pretty happy in the community in general, though, like even online most of the people are super nice.


AirborneCritter

Probably the "no politics in my game" kind of person


[deleted]

The dude has a anime character with the confederate flag in there pfp wtf is wrong with people man I just wanna enjoy my shooting game in peace.


CMSnake72

It is suffering to like game but also hate chud.


Doulloud

The SECOND skybluesocial is open I am gone from Twitter


Hangdowg

Profile pic even has a Confederate flag


MWBrooks1995

This is the *cringiest* thing I’ve ever seen and I was part of a Doctor Who roleplay forum in the 2010s.


MysticMind89

As an avid reader of the books, the guy in the screenshot is an media illiterate moron. Even in their own novels, the Imperium are not the good guys for doing genocide by any measure.


[deleted]

i think their failing to understand **the imperium literally is satire about people like him**


Gleefulheretic

Did this come from somebody involved in making the game or just some rando twitter edgelord?


ShardPerson

Y'all cant tell me you think this is entirely on the chuds being chuds when the game in question is, like almost every 40k game, a completely uncritical celebration of fascist aesthetics that explicitly poses genocide as a good thing because the enemies you fight are Evil By Nature. The game is entirely devoid of any satirical elements or critical views, its 100% only concerned with how **Cool** and **Badass** it is to be a Space Marine and massacre evil demons. The response from fash who are like "oh cool this game supports my worldview" is exactly whats to be expected and natural from a game that has no concern with politics


Beneficial-Clerk4222

It’s bait ……..


WhirlingElias

> suffer not the tourist Pretty hard to disagree with this one. The rest is yikes, yeah.


seine_

Are there really 154 comments here taking this tweet seriously? This guy is criticizing Boltgun, not praising it. The post is even flaired correctly.


doglenin

I checked his account, he's serious


Upgard

WOAH!


shlopro

The game looks really cool though.


BluntPrincess21

Least racist 40k fan


Kalyise

Laugh and move on.


MarcoTruesilver

This person reads? Doubtful.