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reynaaaaa7

1 offer is all you need, good job To current people applying, 32 applications is not enough


Stoby_200

It is if you apply to the right places/do it properly instead of just spam applying with a generic CV and experience


SeniorCaptainThrawn

Absolutely. I always wonder when I see these posts on here on LinkedIn with people saying they’ve sent in hundreds of applications and never got past the first stage. Being brutal, it’s almost certainly because, by focusing on quantity, the quality of their applications is so poor. One tailored application will have a higher success rate than ten spam submitted CVs in the age of AI CV screening.


chichasz

To be fair though, a generic floor worker job in Tesco shouldn’t need all that


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32 not being enough sounds crazy to me. Most people I know applied to about 20 something and most of us got offers. Of my 8 friends and I, 6 of us got offers. Some got multiple. I think that while it is a numbers game, there's also other factors in play here. When you apply is one of the biggest imo. What makes it worse is that companies are pushing forward their application periods. Mine opened up to applications in Nov when I was applying. This year they held the assessment centres in Nov.


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What kind of jobs are you applying to?


[deleted]

Erm none. I've already gotten one. Graduated last year and currently working


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What industry are you in, I mean


[deleted]

Oh sorry, you said applying to earlier. I'm currently in finance. Most of my friends are currently working in some field within finance or professional services. Know a couple people on grad schemes and proper jobs in tech tho, particularly in programming related stuff


[deleted]

Well done, stick in and you’ll go far 👍🏻


Funny_Personality_45

I think I applied for 2 jobs and 1 internship. Had interviews for all 3 and then got an offer from 1


TomZanetti

I applied for 4 grad programs in 2021, but I was an idiot back then. Got accepted for 1, still work there today. 32 sounds like a lot, though.


SmallCatBigMeow

I don’t know that that’s true. If you’re applying for 100 jobs without an offer you probably need to re-think your application strategy


Dalecn

32 is not enough damn I applied to 1 job and got it which I know is lucky but I thought around 10-15 would be normal


Morsecode_01

Where I'm from you'd only need to apply at 10-15 places max before you got something. 32 is over the top for sure


PiPaLiPkA

I think 32 is too many. You're spreading yourself too thin, it is much better to invest heavily in a few applications. I applied for 9 graduate programmes in the UK and received 2 offered because I really put the effort into those ones.


splitcroof92

this seems to be a US issue, or at least a non-tech issue. 3 years ago I graduated and simply changed linkedin to "please recruit me" from the countless approaches I picked 5 interesting companies and got 5 offers.


SmallCatBigMeow

This is a UK sub tho


splitcroof92

oh my bad I didn't notice, carry on


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Hi all, posting this on an alt account to protect my identity, but here's my job search over the last semester. I don't see much about life after uni on this sub but it is inevitable so thought I would share my experience. Bit of background: I'm a final year chemistry student (integrated masters) at a RG uni. I've been applying to graduate schemes in a wide range of subjects (none of them chemistry based) over the last semester and was finally accepted to one in mid December.


M1ss1nfamous

It is a relief to see that even with a degree in chemistry you were rejected so many times, makes me feel better about myself


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None of the jobs I applied to were chemistry based which made my degree less of a factor, however, the job search is absolutely relentless - I'm convinced you could be a perfect physical specimen, have a godly CV and still get rejected from a grad scheme for whatever reason. Keep on going!


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nothingtoseehere____

Not OP, but a few reasons from my coursemates 1. Fed up of chemistry. Not everyone does 3/4 years of chem ug and wants to keep doing it for the rest of their life. That's OK 2. Don't want to stay in education - many chemistry related jobs you can get with a Mchem, but in the long term a PhD is useful to advance or move jobs. Not everyone wants to spend 4 years doing a PhD 3. More Money - Pure lab-based chemistry doesn't actually pay that well in this country compared to finance or tech or management. Some people want that £££


[deleted]

So with my degree I've done a year in industry at a leading chemicals company which was an amazing experience. It was great to apply my knowledge and work within a very clever and supportive team. I do love chemistry but I can't quite see myself doing chemical jobs in the long term: you can be confined to a field, progression is hard, you'll be most likely confined to a very specific niche, pay is standard, you do less lab work as you progress etc. Btw this is not to dishearten you, I'm in the minority of my industrial cohort placement, the rest are now (even more than before) dead set on a chemistry career and very much looking forward to it.


trueinsideedge

I do biomed and from looking at grad schemes there’s nothing lab based apart from aerospace engineering and pharmaceuticals, which are more geared towards physics/chem students. The majority of grad schemes that you can do with a STEM degree are aimed towards tech based roles. So if you’re coming from a physical science based degree and you’re dead set on doing a grad scheme tech is really the only road you can go down. It’s a shame considering some of the big R&D lab companies offer sandwich placements but they don’t seem to offer grad schemes.


nothingtoseehere____

They get all the graduate labour they need from their sandwich placement cohorts, and they get a year to evaluate their quality before hiring them. Why offer a grad scheme if you don't need one?


Tundra_Tornado

Some pharma companies offer R&D grad schemes - AstraZeneca and GSK come to mind - but they're INSANELY competitive, and they're a 2 year contract generally, so it's essentially just a better paid placement year(s)


Mooscowsky

Because nowadays people go to uni only to be hit with 9% life-time tax and end up with entirely unrelated job to their degree. Because reasons.


FujiiThunder

>the job search is absolutely relentless 32 applications lmao


Puzzled-Barnacle-200

To make a good application, you should spend at least half a day per initial application. Add in the time for online tests, assignments and interviews, and you're easily looking at the equivalent to 6 weeks of fill time work.


FujiiThunder

Skill issue


sema_xx

Were you able to get any internships over the summer or Christmas throughout your degree? I’m a 3rd year chemistry student at HW and have been looking around but couldn’t find much about it


Yung-Almond

Congrats! That seems very low for the amount of applications to get an offer.


AffectionateJump7896

You apply, do online tests, do a video interview and then they don't even reply to you. I think that's disgraceful behaviour. How hard is a 'we're not progressing your application', or even setting up an automated reply when you get binned in their system.


itsharryngl

Any company doing video interviews is being as lazy as possible and this graph shows it - like 30% didn’t even reply lol


veryblocky

Honestly, when I was applying I preferred it, I was still at uni at the time, and not having to travel all over the country for random interviews was nice


Skully1634

I’m a final year in business economics and have applied to ~50 with about 40% resulting in offers Main thing I think helped is tailoring my CV and work experience to the job role to include more keywords and things they state they look for in the job description. Takes about 10 minutes max per application but definitely worth it


JyubiKurama

I think companies use algorithms now to sift through hundreds of applications, so a lot of cvs apperently get rejected by a computer not seeing the keywords


Skully1634

Yea that’s the rationale behind adjusting the CV for every application - each company will want different keywords so you try adjust based on description


SmallCatBigMeow

Does usually take a bit more than 10 minutes unless all jobs are very similar. But yeah, in my experience people apply to 1-15 jobs before landing one. I’m a uni lecturer and see tens of students go through this each year and quite a few are successful in the first one. I encourage them to be targeting specific jobs relevant to theirs skills


Skully1634

Yea most of mine were in a familiar field (business/ (finance) so it just required minor adjustments, only when I applied to jobs in the tech field it required more time


Cry90210

Can I ask the process of how you did this? Thought process, method etc?


sammy_zammy

You look at the person specification and ensure your CV highlights this in all sections - education, work experience (if you have any), and skills. I recommend having an oversized CV that you can chop bits from, rather than starting from scratch each time.


Skully1634

First I had a decent CV made out which was the original If I found a job I liked I’d look at what they want in terms of experience / candidate etc and I would tailor my CV to hit more keywords So for example if a job description said they wanted someone with experience with large data sets I’d tailor my work experience (sometimes just made it up in the context of my work) and the skills associated with that


Puzzled-Barnacle-200

Make a mega CV. List everything you have done, all your uni modules (and grades), all your key assignments (and grades), all your key skills (technical, use of software and soft skills) and work experience with far too much detail, and any other information you have. This will be far too long, maybe double what you should actually be applying with. Then for each job after having read the job advert and researched the company, cut out the less useful information, and tweak to include descriptive words they include in their advert.


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Skully1634

Been very efficient with everything Would spend 1/2 hours a day at the end of the day sending applications or completing assessments for the jobs online If I was travelling (to training, gym etc) I would browse LinkedIn for grad jobs Interviews weren’t too bad - research for it didn’t take too long There’s still a few I haven’t heard back from and a good resource is Sanctuary Graduates & bright network - found most of grad jobs there


SakuraFeathers

I can't believe how hard it is for companies to not even do a simple rejection email "thanks for your application, unfortunately we are not progressing with your application at this time". They already have your email so why not just send one over through the same system you applied through. Congrats on your offer!


rehan688

How many applications do people fill on average ? And ik it might be different for different jobs but what do they look for


SmallCatBigMeow

I am a uni lecturer and in my experience my students apply to 1-15 jobs before landing one. Very few apply to more than that. Chinese students struggle more because Chinese job market is brutal, while uk is seeing low unemployment. I work in a stem field at a Russell group uni.


JoshAGould

It completely depends what you're applying to, what your CV is like, and how competitive the industry is. ​ I did about 30 for my internship & that was probably a bit overkill. I hear from a lot of other people that you need to apply for significantly more. YMMV, until you hear back w a offer contract from an employer I wouldn't stop (not that I had the motivation to do this, but it is what is recommended)


veryblocky

I applied to about 10 places before getting my current job, I’m a Software Engineer


chrissyrobin

Love this. Need to increase my numbers apparently!


SmallCatBigMeow

If you’re applying to 30+ jobs and not getting offers, it’s probably not the numbers that are the issue. Job applications are not easy to make, interviews are not easy to hack, but it’s an essential skill and worth investing time to


BluuCloud

And just btw, 32 is still on the lower end, so don't be discouraged if you have to go way over that number too! Edit: this can be dependant on what you study / want to apply for


ahahahalmira

I’ve applied for 40+ but it doesn’t seem to go anywhere 🥲 i guess cuz it’s mainly banking and asset management jobs which are crazily competitive


Noah_rawr

I did 300+ and got nothing, working in a different industry now lol


chickentittyenjoyer

applied to one, got it.


TomZanetti

Similar to me, never realised how lucky I was until I read these comments


PotteringAlong

Question- what are these types of graph called and is there a good website that makes them?


Key_Shape_674

SankeyMATIC


Frequent-Skin-3466

How did you make this inforgraphic? Looks really cool


Whocares1846

Another commenter said something called SankeyMATIC :)


BionicTem_

You better not be applying for a job making flow charts


squawgull

Last year I applied for about 10 jobs, got about 4 video interviews? Probably did half of them (I was really lazy with job applying as still in uni). Got 1 assessment centre so decided to give that a go. Got the job, by then finished uni and had no plans for September. Took it! Consider myself quite lucky to get an offer after not much applying. To be fair though, I work in STEM. Well done on getting an offer!


SmallCatBigMeow

You must’ve been a good candidate. I work as a lecturer and your story is the common one. Applying for 30+ jobs and not having an offer is suggest either the applicant is unrealistic about their prospects (no harm in hustling though!) or they need help with their application.


squawgull

Got a first in my degree but no placement year, also non RG uni. Mainly applied to graduate schemes in my industry (cyber security). Didn’t think my application was that exceptional. I think applying for things where you can tick most of the requirements helps as well?


SmallCatBigMeow

Definitely helps and in my experience of shortlisting and recruiting you needn’t have an amazing application to get a job. Of course some jobs are more competitive than others but most applications we reject at shortlisting are from applicants who have unrealistic expectations. Like applying to mid/senior level positions where entry level requirement would be a PhD with little to no relevant experience and without the PhD. Recently we recruited a new director level member of staff and some applicants were 1-2 years out of uni.


C0REWATTS

Similar to what I've done this year, apart from I haven't actually been accepted by any. Applied to 10 jobs, had 2 video interviews so far, and completed 1 assessment centre. Haven't heard anything back from assessment centre, but still shows as on hold. Not sure how people find so many to apply for. I only found about 10 for my area, so I applied to each one. I wonder if people are willing to travel, so they can apply for ones all over the country.


squawgull

I think it partially depends what industry you’re applying for? Also I applied for all over the country, just not London! It would be impossible for me to apply just in my local area as I live in the middle of nowhere. I think unless you live near a big city, you’ve got to be willing to relocate somewhere else.


TwoProfessional6997

25 online tests.. that’s crazy


Material_Break3593

To anyone worrying, I didn’t apply for anything until July and I started a role in august. You don’t need your dream role out of uni!


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Congratulations on your offer!


PalacioRecord

Congrats on the offer :)


Mathyoo0

Well I guess it was a good decision not going to uni


gridlockmain1

OP got a job and hasn’t even graduated yet


rehan688

I mean there aren’t many available options


Mathyoo0

All my school mates went to uni, I'm the only one I didn't, I worked for amazon and other retail jobs and I accumulated a good saving sum. There is always a choice, you just need to look out of the mass.


Silver_Switch_3109

Well done, you have a very small amount of money and have almost no opportunities to get a job that pays well. I am sure you will be able to brag to your friends who went to uni in 10 years when they have careers that pay well and provides many opportunities to advance their careers.


Mathyoo0

Believe what makes you happy and sleep well at night but It's adorable that you believe that I do not have a good paying job and that I will not be able to get one anyway. You appear very angry and frustated on the way you respond and set up your answer which I do not quite understand why. You seem like that you purposely want the worst for me. I've given the good things that have happened to me and the way I built my life because of the decisions I took, It was not my intention to offend you or to hurt your ego. And once again I do not understand why you believe that because a person doesn't go to uni he/she wont be able to get a good career job or a good paying job. ​ Even so, It is not my intention to argue or insult a stranger online, so just believe what you wish and God bless brother


Silver_Switch_3109

You have a post from a couple of weeks ago stating you earn £24,000 per year. You also seem to have been working at Tescos, Just Eat and Amazon for the past two years. I did not assume anything.


sammy_zammy

It’s fine if that was your chosen path, but it’s not a competition - there’s no need to be so smug about it.


singaporesainz

It’s not sustainable though no? There can’t be many rungs to climb on that ladder


[deleted]

I mean, sure, getting a good apprenticeship or being a tradie is a great option, but I don't think working at Gregg's makes your decision not going to uni worthwhile mate.


Silver_Switch_3109

You can go to uni and work for Greggs at the same time.


Mathyoo0

It is not, but it's a good idea to use reatil jobs as a stepping stone to apply for apprentice ship and other career paths jobs while working and earning money, which I personally did and this way it worked really well with my life :) So there is always other options to just uni, you just need to know what you really want in life ;)


bifuku

You can work retail jobs while at uni if you really want to use retail as a stepping stone


DKUN_of_WFST

Bros flexing destroying his body for just above minimum wage. Just because it’s hard work to go somewhere in life doesn’t mean it’s not worth it


DKUN_of_WFST

“I guess it was a good decision not going to uni” “I accumulated a good saving sum” - these do come across as flexing but that may not have been your intention. Yes, uni isn’t for everyone and we can all make our own choices about which route we go down


Mathyoo0

What makes you think I'm flexing? I'm not, I'm literally just giving my opinion and responding to the guys statement that there is no other path other than university. Every man is free to do how they please. If going to uni suits you then good. I'm not here to put you down for going to uni lol.


Sproll29

Does anyone know if one of these charts exists but for placement years instead?


sammy_zammy

Is it not exactly the same


more_than_just_a

What a delightful Sankey you have there. Congrats on the job, now focus on what I'm paying you for!!


LadyAmbrose

32 is really great going! it took me over 40 applications to get a minimum wage summer job lol - you’ve done great!


Boonz-Lee

I applied for two Got the second one


Minimum_Area3

Ngl I applied to 2 and got both, then applied to 5 more and got to final stage interviews with 2 but didn’t go, 3 never heard back. So to people out there (keep in mind this was some years ago) some people will get it first try, some it’ll take along time. Just stick at it and keep trying.


Morsecode_01

Compared to my Job search: 1 offer from previous placement > accepted


cillitbangers

I'm surprised you only got 8 no replies. On mine, with one exception I only received invites to interviews or no replies. This was early 2020 though.


silli_boi

Honestly it is just a numbers game I had to apply to 78 before I got a grad job


True-Soup-3038

what’s the point lmao. what is the point .