Pretty much, everything besides the 8 pointed star is fine for NL. Perfect addition for a custom command squad with the new one that will come out soon
Why is the Chaos star not right? We know that Chaos sworn have appeared among all Legions by now in the Heresy and we know of many NL that become Cult-forces or Daemon-Princes by 40k
While that is the case, most legions did not use the chaos iconography during the heresy. Some legions, like Word Bearers and Sons of Horus, might have been using some form of these other definitely did not.
And Curze definitely disliked Chaos and during the Heresy any NL that would have carried that banner would have been ostracised
Not sure you’d even have to chop the whole star off - think trimming it down some, reducing the number of spikes etc. so it’s not obviously a chaos eight-pointed star may be enough.
Wonder whether they’ve kept HH in mind with this and other similar releases- surely?
Astartes corpse is so hot right now. Yeah there’s almost nothing on here that isn’t just straight up good to go. Obvious chaos emblem, the skeletal chain blade maybe are out, but it seems impossible but it looks like they only put stupid random chaos teeth on one pauldron. The restraint! I think even the helmets are fine, I challenge someone to assign an actual Mark to those.
Heck the stupid random chaos teeth would look really cool on a character or sgt, drench it with enough blood and you have a later night lord who’s abandoned any nobility or form the originals had
My god, I’ve never wanted to make a Chaos dentist so bad. Translate tells me they’d be called the Primus Oris Munditia. Plague marine just carries a soda can barrel on the backpack.
Was to be expected that this is the command squad upgrade for NL. And it also comes with most legion unique weapons.
If I would still play night lords, I would get 3 or 4 of these upgrades 😁👍
Realistically most if not all of the base CSM kit (which the NL upgrade sprue is supposed to go with) is going to be appropriate for HH.
It's definitely a different *style* than most of the HH range, but very few details are outright anachronisms.
Yup, I'm using berzerker and legionary bodies for my raptors and terror squads (and probably a power-armoured command squad too)
Just trimming a lot of the pointiness, more standard heresy powerpacks and shoulder pads on the more chaosy bodies (and chaos pads and powerpacks on the more standard bodies)
Depending on the Legion certain Chaos-specific iconography might be inappropriate during the Heresy. But in my eyes that's for the rivet-counters to argue over. If I had a traitor force I wouldn't bother scraping off eight-pointed stars just to be era-appropriate. Even the banner on the upgrade sprue could look great on a Night Lords force.
It’s possible that they might do it one day. I remember rumours about similar sprues for all the legions for 40k
So maybe eventually they sell it by itself
The Night Lords are one of the few legions where their heresy and 40k models are damn near identical, save for the chaos stars, which feels a bit odd since the NL never really liked the chaos gods
Yeah pretty much everything, especially the claw looks epic night lordsy. I would refrain from the chaos banner as they were not the biggest fans of it even thought they were not immune to it.
I like the head being separate from the torso on the corpse. Could be used as a separate bit or decoration. Might make one of my guys holding it with a spine attached like a trophy
Nice. I really wish GW sold those separetly, that banner looks like something from Dawn of War.
https://preview.redd.it/ttjqo9msoisc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=95413d088ef0131ea6f4842c6fc8a722d7903f63
Unrelated fact, but I think bare heads from 40k WE Berzerkers fit 30K aestetics.
All of it, they were demented then they are demented now and they aren’t very corrupted either, just remove blatant chaos markings and you should be good
I think everything but the heads and weapons could be. NL were pretty mature with armour ornamentation, but maybe not yet the heads or weapons. Throw in some glaives and lightning claws.
Most of it has the classic CSM trim(TM) so I'd say not much unless you want to do some knife work to remove it all
Maybe the skin cloak and some of the other smaller bits?
We have seen in White Dwarf and similar official publications pictures of 30k squads created by using the CSM figures as base, so GW at least see no problem with that look.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, but I agree about the trim. That said, I'm currently using a lot of CSM and Berzerker parts for my 30k Night Lords, but I'm also putting in the aforementioned knife work to remove the arrows and baroque curvy bits from the trim.
Idk man, it does kind of feel like I'm seeing something completely different to everyone else?
Like it's a beautiful kit and great for 40k NL but come on, not even Curze has as much trim as 40k CSMs have
True, but if you go back to the SoT books, everything from Luc & Skraivok's perspective says they've started turning into the typical looking CSM, so it really isn't that much of a stretch
https://preview.redd.it/hsg896t7qhsc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c07905e1e79efed42ed1af445fd6b6af9f6aa673
Yeah, they're pretty ornate right off the sprue, but I'm trimming almost everything except for the basic banding around the top and bottom of the legs, and of course any NL-type trophies and such. Although I am using them mainly for my Terror Squad rather than rank and file, who can be expected to be a little flashier. This smiley boy is the WIP Headsman from my Terror Squad, using a mix of regular and trimmed down chaos parts (and a Necromunda head) - aside from the Anvilus pattern backpack that all my TS guys get, I don't think he's too ornate for an elite choice.
Everything here looks great, for the banner you might want to chop off the giant chaos star topper but other than that it’s perfect for Night Lords
Put a legion vexila or something to replace it, I bet that would look sexy
Pretty much, everything besides the 8 pointed star is fine for NL. Perfect addition for a custom command squad with the new one that will come out soon
Why is the Chaos star not right? We know that Chaos sworn have appeared among all Legions by now in the Heresy and we know of many NL that become Cult-forces or Daemon-Princes by 40k
While that is the case, most legions did not use the chaos iconography during the heresy. Some legions, like Word Bearers and Sons of Horus, might have been using some form of these other definitely did not. And Curze definitely disliked Chaos and during the Heresy any NL that would have carried that banner would have been ostracised
But Curze abounded them years before the HH's current "now", and even before that many of the NL paid only lipservice to their gene-father.
There were symbols of Chaos at Isstvan III
Not sure you’d even have to chop the whole star off - think trimming it down some, reducing the number of spikes etc. so it’s not obviously a chaos eight-pointed star may be enough. Wonder whether they’ve kept HH in mind with this and other similar releases- surely?
The star definitely could be cut to look like some kind of a nostraman rune.
The Bannerman was just REALLY excited about the whole chaos deal, he had to get a chaos star made instantly.
The best part about night lords is that chaosy spiky bits just become spooky spiky bits.
Nah. 8 pointed star is amazing
Why? Dudes has the 8 point star by book 3
Astartes corpse is so hot right now. Yeah there’s almost nothing on here that isn’t just straight up good to go. Obvious chaos emblem, the skeletal chain blade maybe are out, but it seems impossible but it looks like they only put stupid random chaos teeth on one pauldron. The restraint! I think even the helmets are fine, I challenge someone to assign an actual Mark to those.
tbh even the skeleton chainblade isn’t so much chaotic as exactly the sort of garish Nostramoan ganger trophy-weapon a NL officer would carry around.
Yeah it’s fine. It’s Night lords. They are 80s cartoon villains in every era.
Heck the stupid random chaos teeth would look really cool on a character or sgt, drench it with enough blood and you have a later night lord who’s abandoned any nobility or form the originals had
Hey those teeth are the only things keeping the legiones dentiste cohort in business
My god, I’ve never wanted to make a Chaos dentist so bad. Translate tells me they’d be called the Primus Oris Munditia. Plague marine just carries a soda can barrel on the backpack.
I belive the helmets might be mk V
SURE!
Was to be expected that this is the command squad upgrade for NL. And it also comes with most legion unique weapons. If I would still play night lords, I would get 3 or 4 of these upgrades 😁👍
Its actually the killteamset
Will this be available standalone? It’s an incredible kit, be a shame to have to buy lots of the full Kill Teams
The night lords kill team? Yeah it will be standalone But the actual Upgrade sprues won't be Which sucks, imagine if gw did these for 30k
Yup I meant the upgrade sprue. Shame
Realistically most if not all of the base CSM kit (which the NL upgrade sprue is supposed to go with) is going to be appropriate for HH. It's definitely a different *style* than most of the HH range, but very few details are outright anachronisms.
Yup, I'm using berzerker and legionary bodies for my raptors and terror squads (and probably a power-armoured command squad too) Just trimming a lot of the pointiness, more standard heresy powerpacks and shoulder pads on the more chaosy bodies (and chaos pads and powerpacks on the more standard bodies)
And we have seen official pictures in WD and similar of 30k era Marines created from the CSM figures. So that is GW approved.
Depending on the Legion certain Chaos-specific iconography might be inappropriate during the Heresy. But in my eyes that's for the rivet-counters to argue over. If I had a traitor force I wouldn't bother scraping off eight-pointed stars just to be era-appropriate. Even the banner on the upgrade sprue could look great on a Night Lords force.
It’s possible that they might do it one day. I remember rumours about similar sprues for all the legions for 40k So maybe eventually they sell it by itself
Eventually
I feel like a lot of this could be re-used especially for Terror squads and you could use them to make raptors as well and HQ options
Night Lords look pretty much the same in the Horus Heresy and in the 40,000 millennium. So using them should be ok.
The Night Lords are one of the few legions where their heresy and 40k models are damn near identical, save for the chaos stars, which feels a bit odd since the NL never really liked the chaos gods
No, Talos never really liked the gods. The rest of the Legion ranged from ambivalent to enthusiastic.
By 40k time the norm is supposed to be that Chaos Space Marines actively follow the Gods.
Yeah pretty much everything, especially the claw looks epic night lordsy. I would refrain from the chaos banner as they were not the biggest fans of it even thought they were not immune to it.
Woah, the blade gauntlets are their own separate piece. 😮 Time to make Night Lord sisters.
The chain glaive is my favorite bit on that sprue.
Most of it I'd say. Some ppl don't think pointy trims are right for NL but not me.
Looks like I'll be starting a new army then.
I like the head being separate from the torso on the corpse. Could be used as a separate bit or decoration. Might make one of my guys holding it with a spine attached like a trophy
Nice. I really wish GW sold those separetly, that banner looks like something from Dawn of War. https://preview.redd.it/ttjqo9msoisc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=95413d088ef0131ea6f4842c6fc8a722d7903f63 Unrelated fact, but I think bare heads from 40k WE Berzerkers fit 30K aestetics.
Agreed To be fair the Chaos Space Marine kit is great for later stage Heresy armies for forces like the Night Lords
Leaving the banner open to NOT put the body on it is a fantastic design choice. Really glad that’s not sculpted on.
not that much work here to invest, night lords arent corrupted chaos marines, they are pretty close to heresy. very good sprues.
Everything if you're casual enough 🤣
All of it except anything with Chaos stars imo
If your doing seige of terra it's fine
All of it, they were demented then they are demented now and they aren’t very corrupted either, just remove blatant chaos markings and you should be good
I think everything but the heads and weapons could be. NL were pretty mature with armour ornamentation, but maybe not yet the heads or weapons. Throw in some glaives and lightning claws.
Most of it has the classic CSM trim(TM) so I'd say not much unless you want to do some knife work to remove it all Maybe the skin cloak and some of the other smaller bits?
Even then, you could say its artificer armour for sergeants
We have seen in White Dwarf and similar official publications pictures of 30k squads created by using the CSM figures as base, so GW at least see no problem with that look.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, but I agree about the trim. That said, I'm currently using a lot of CSM and Berzerker parts for my 30k Night Lords, but I'm also putting in the aforementioned knife work to remove the arrows and baroque curvy bits from the trim.
Idk man, it does kind of feel like I'm seeing something completely different to everyone else? Like it's a beautiful kit and great for 40k NL but come on, not even Curze has as much trim as 40k CSMs have
True, but if you go back to the SoT books, everything from Luc & Skraivok's perspective says they've started turning into the typical looking CSM, so it really isn't that much of a stretch https://preview.redd.it/hsg896t7qhsc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c07905e1e79efed42ed1af445fd6b6af9f6aa673
Yeah, they're pretty ornate right off the sprue, but I'm trimming almost everything except for the basic banding around the top and bottom of the legs, and of course any NL-type trophies and such. Although I am using them mainly for my Terror Squad rather than rank and file, who can be expected to be a little flashier. This smiley boy is the WIP Headsman from my Terror Squad, using a mix of regular and trimmed down chaos parts (and a Necromunda head) - aside from the Anvilus pattern backpack that all my TS guys get, I don't think he's too ornate for an elite choice.
https://preview.redd.it/9ospnj0xaisc1.jpeg?width=4616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d93796c32a6a1ccb44b93a575618b699c0abb07