Possible? Sure. But you can literally spend $100k on ANYTHING in a year. Video games, food, cars, whatever.
Easy? Not really. GW sells models that are a few thousands dollars each, but those are SUPER rare and MASSIVE. I guess if you bought one of every single product they release for every game system it would get up there, but we're talking hundreds or thousands of boxes a year. The only way to REALISTICALLY do that would be to have a bunch of full armies completely commission painted to the highest level or something.
Yeah if you fly to tournaments in the US, UK, South Africa, Australia, China, and Russia then you could get to this amount within a year. But you'd be travelling quite a lot.
Same problem with the purchasing - you *could* reach that amount, but you'd have to have a staggering amount of storage space for all the crap you bought.
That many brand new armies is still gonna be a shitload of space, hrm. Maybe you could sneak by spending this much if you overpaid for entire armies to get commission painted and then sold them at a heavy loss when the meta changed.
One of the fun things with titans is that because they come with numbered certificates, we can actually figure out how many they sell. The latest Warlord on Titan Owners' Club right now is certificate number 1912. They launched in May 2015, so approximately 8.75 years of sales. If sales have been steady, that's just under 220 Warlords per year.
GW's total revenue for the financial year 2022-23 was £470.8M per their financial report. Today, a complete Warlord titan (taking the body, head, two arm guns and the carapace laser blasters, which seems the most popular configuration) runs £1630. If they sold 220 Warlords in that time (in the UK), they make up £358600 of the revenue for the year, which would be 0.076% of GW's total revenue.
However, GW's prices are relatively higher in other markets once the cost gets converted back to GBP (e.g. total warlord cost 2519USD, which converts back to approx 2000GBP at current exchange rates). So any of those 220 titans sold in non-UK markets will mean an increase to the overall revenue from Warlords compared with my above calculation. Additionally GW's sales/revenue have been increasing in general and I wouldn't be surprised if titan sales had also increased proportionally in that period. They probably sold more than 220 in that year. Between those factors I could speculate that Warlord titan sales might realistically have been 0.1% to 0.15% of revenue for 2022-23. To be honest, it's higher than I would have thought, even with how expensive they are!
That was oddly fun to work out, even though I could have spent that time painting.
I tried adding up hypothetical costs for over a dozen GTs a year at 2.5k a piece, $2k+(so much more after painting) armies painted for you, multiple, donations to streamers in the thousands, custom nick nacks or clothing for your events.
I had trouble getting much above 60k without just really being ridiculous.
So true, you could easily spend 15k on a table, desks and other stuff, I wouldn't count a PC though that's cheating.
Edit: I could see an Ipad specifically for warhammer though, theres another 2k.
And an other house to store them all in. If you spent a hundred grand on Warhammer, your spouse would know about it without a doubt. Your house would be overflowing.
I feel like an order for ~42 fully kitted out Mars-Pattern Warlord Titans might be able to convince them to fire up the resin injectors, after they ask you if you’re okay.
> I feel like an order for ~42 fully kitted out Mars-Pattern Warlord Titans might be able to convince them to fire up the resin injectors, after the~~y ask you if you’re okay~~ payment clears.
Fixed that for you.
I feel like someone told his wife that her husband is going out at the weekend and spending thousands on models.
She misunderstood, confronted him about spending the cash on Warhammer and he just rolled with it rather than confess to the affairs with escorts.
If he spent 110,000 on models, his wife would know before it reached that point. For that kind of plastic, you'd have to have rooms dedicated in your house to just your collection.
This was my thought too. You'd fill a sizeable closet well before the 10k mark, and would need a whole storeroom by the 50k mark.
Unless you're buying rare OOP models for wildly inflated prices...this ain't it.
I hit the 3k mark after a couple years of collecting, and my girlfriend is already complaining about where on earth to store all my warhammer stuff. I can't imagine what 100k would look like.
I’m suprised with that many models he only has one of the big titans. I assume cost is not a factor, so in game modes can you only field one at a time?
I just got into Warhammer last year, so I went crazy at the beginning, starting multiple armies, tons of paint/supplies, a new table. Completely filled my office with Warhammer boxes, models, books, paint, etc, and pretty sure I haven't spent more than 2k (I get most of my units from the box sets and/or at 30% off MSRP).
There's absolutely no way to spend 100k+ without filling an entire storage shed.
Yeah, like I have one 5 foot shelf and it is \~3000pts of Thousand Sons, \~3000pts of Stormcast, \~1000 points of Necrons and some boxes I store old sprues in. So like... maybe $2.5-3k on that shelf? I can't imagine my house having 30 more of those shelving units and my wife not noticing :D
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That's about £20,000 worth at games workshop retail price so yeah your talking 4-5 full racks of shelves If it's displayed. That being said you can see how much space is wasted between shelves and having the models sorted. I reckon I could reduce the gaps and get another 30-50% more on those racks and get double again stored in the same area if I used large plastic tubs and bubble wrap.
Definitely not going to be a hideable collection.
I have a silly question, what if he wasn’t building or painting himself? I know some of the ork stuff I want especially some of the older stuff goes for 200-1800$. Doing it that way, I think you could pair it down to what you have.
Then you add on tournament and travel and 110k is pretty gone quick ish
Commission stuff might slowly creep toward that upper limit, but the issue with tournament travel is how noticeable it would be for it to reach that cost. Easy to blow $1,000 on a GT weekend, but if you went to a GT every weekend, and took an overpriced flight and stayed in a nice hotel for ALL of them, that's still only $52,000. And if you're gone literally every weekend, where are you finding time to hide another $58k in commissions?
It very quickly becomes "oh, I understand, the 'other reasons' included 'my husband was gone literally every weekend this year.'"
My husband and I essentially have a craft/game room that is our paint/build workspace and storage. We have definitely NOT spent 100k on this game. That amount of plastic would have to be its own storage unit or packed so full you can’t move around.
I mean, you're right. I could buy 11k with a huge disposable income but 110k? There's no way that could happen without anyone close to the person noticing.
This one sounds like gambling to me. Specifically online gambling, assuming this is in the US. So many people have been getting sucked in and losing obscene amounts of money over the last couple of years.
Sure, spending any amount of money on anything is possible...
With that said, spending $110000 on Warhammer in a year is definitely grounds for divorce unless you're incredibly wealthy.
The single most expensive Warhammer kit is the Warlord Titan, a nearly 2 foot tall model (they're literally the size of a small child) that is seen by most people as the absolute pinnacle of 40k models. Each one costs about $2600.
To spend $110000 would mean buying 42 Warlord Titans which is insane.
Or another way of looking at it: Roughly speaking, the average cost of a 40k kit at the moment is somewhere around $60 (standard cost for most Infantry). $110000 would mean buying 1833 boxes.
The only other way I can think of spending that much money would be to commission professionals to build and paint numerous large armies. Commissioned armies can cost several thousand dollars each. If we say $5000 for a commissioned army, that's still 22 armies. No one can reasonably learn and play with 22 separate armies.
Edit: Seeing some of the other comments I would have to agree with the theories that "I spent it on Warhammer" is a cover for something else.
Spent 5k on a pro-painted army, spent 5k on a trip to the Las Vegas Open, spent 100k on hookers in vegas, but because it happened at a warhammer tournament it counts as warhammer!
>Paying a pair of hookers cosplayed as a Sister of Battle and a Slaanesh Daemonette to commission paint titans while snorting cocaine from her asses would still count on spending on the hobby.
Let's go a bit further shall we?
He wasn't trying to start a game store or something, right? The only way I could see the $110,000 making sense is if he intended to open a game store or something and was trying to purchase inventory. $110,000 for personal use is tough. Unless he commissioned Michelangelo to paint his minis.
Even that for a normal game store is absolutely insane. I worked as a buyer for one of the largest game stores in the US and we could spend $100k on Warhammer in a year without too many issues, but the vast majority of stores will spend a fraction of that.
Dudes probably got a gambling problem. I spent maybe $1100 on it last year, but that's still a couple zeros shy. That's hundreds of boxes of models. He would need a storage unit to keep it.
I can see one and only one realistic way this is true, and even then that is a STRETCH.
Bought 3 or 4 commissioned armies at $5k a piece. Let's call that an even $20k.
A bunch of paints, brushes, airbrush, lights, etc plus models to build himself. Assuming absolutely top of the line everything. That's going to be a few thousand at most, but let's round up to $5k.
Travels to a GT literally every weekend: airfare, (high end) hotel, (fancy) food every weekend could hit $1500-2000 every weekend depending on where he's going.
That all would hit that number, but no reasonable person is going to frame all that travel as "spending money on warhammer" that's going to be "spending money on trips by himself"
I was thinking commissioned armies too but even then that's CRAZY.
I don't play any of the video games. Are there some that do microtransactions? Because I could DEFINITELY see someone going crazy on those and spending that kind of money. And logistically it would be easier because you wouldn't need a warehouse to store everything.
Darktide has Microtransactions, but there simply isn't that much content available to buy!
Tacticus is a true mobile gacha game with a LOT of microtransactions... But even then I don't know if you could hit 6 figures. I could see someone managing to spend a couple of grand, but not $110000
I knew people who spent 10's of thousands on game of war. In less than a year.
Game of war seriously took the piss though, with 100 dollar chests etc.
Still surprised me that people would spend such amounts on a mobile phone game. Rich bastards
Yep, you can physically buy that much stuff in a year because of course you can, though I do wanna point out that'd be enough per week that you'd be causing many smaller LGSs actual stock issues before long, but actually using it in any productive sense? I mean no fucking way.
You laugh, but this was my first thought. We joke about how much this hobby costs, but this isn't Warhammer garage money - this is gambling addiction with microtransactions money.
If that's true it's the saddest possible explanation. If the guy's just lying then he's a garden-variety asshole. If he has a gambling addiction then no one's really the bad guy and this just sucks for everyone.
Warhammer tacticus is pretty bad, but it’s pretty hard to go over a few thousand dollars before maxing everything out. 110k is a full on gambling/slots addiction or second family.
:/ I've never played Tacticus. I do know that some mobile game whales hit six figures. I played Raid for a few months (I know) and the big "tournaments" would have global leaderboards where the top spots were, by mathematical necessity, spending multiple tens of thousands. I'm glad Tacticus isn't on that level.
The only possible reason would be if he's VERY into warhammer tournaments, and bought multiple pro-painted 40k tournament armies while traveling to every competitive event on first class flights and staying in four star hotels.
I could probably spend 10k going to the LVO itself easily, if I just go for ultra luxury every step of the way. But then he's spending most of his money on travel, not really on 40k, except that he's traveling FOR 40k.
Agreed, was just about to post something like this. The only way that seems feasible is meta chasing with commissioned armies plus heavy tournament travel at a luxury level. Otherwise the "Warhammer" expenses are just a cover/billing code for a gambling or substance addiction or similar.
Ok but even then, that’s 11 times in a single year….i don’t follow the competitive scene but are there even that many tourneys? And if you are actually at that many tourneys….wouldn’t the community know who this guy is and air out that mystery?
The math just don’t check out
There are a LOT of tournaments every year, and it wouldn't be immediately obvious how much money someone spends to attend an event. Last year I went to:
**Major Events, requiring significant travel expense**
* Tampa Open
* Cruisehammer
* Las Vegas Open
**Regional Events, often requiring a hotel stay**
* Salt City GT
* Wars on the Shore GT
* ROC Hard GT
* DaBoyz GT
* Fight before Christmas GT
* Battle for Salvation GT
* Canhammer Team Tournament
* CTC GT
* Bedlam in the Burgh GT
**RTT Events, requiring gas money**
* At least 1 per month.
If we assume I spent $3000 per major event, $500 per regional event, and $100 per RTT, I spent $14,700 on travel for 40k events last year, and I'm really not a well known player or anything, lol. Lots of these events are regional.
... shit I spent a lot more last year than I thought. Granted at least half of that was paid for by churning credit card points to get free airfare and hotel, but damn.
Point is, I wasn't buying high end hotel rooms, and I skipped a lot of the bigger and more expensive events. If I went all out and was really going to every event I wanted to without regard for expense, I could easily top 100k in expenses.
$110,000 would buy you 22,000 Cadian Shock Troopers.
In the 4th Edition codex, the twelve companies of the Cadian 8th were shown at a strength 4,000 men.
That means this guy spent enough money to buy five **regiments** of guardsmen.
It's a Warhammer Army where you overwhelm your opponent with numbers. Back in the day this would mean having five times as many models as the opponent. It's the Warhammer equivalent of death by a million paper cuts.
Don’t even get started about painting them. My friend was gonna go infantry guard, got the combat patrol. Next day he bought a baneblade and never looked back
IMO seems like a cover for something else. Most LGS’s wouldn’t even carry more than 5 figures of inventory. $110k is just mind boggling. You could buy like every single 40K kit multiple times
Warhammer, huh? Interesting euphemism for a side ho.
Seriously though, I've been told that $6000 is already a lot for Warhammer, so there's definitely more to his prodigal spending than plastic figurines and paint.
Bro founded an entire Space Marine legion.
Unless his house is half covered in minis that’s not physically possible. Over the last three and a half years I’ve picked up probably no more than £7-800 of warhammer/bolt action and do you know how much space that takes? Half a closet in the spare bedroom.
Probably the usual culprits of gambling/drink/hookers/drugs/stocks/crypto.
The only way I could see that happening in any realistic way is if that person is running a business (successful scalper, maybe even buy to paint reseller, may potentially reach such amount if they're really successful, official business will likely do that too) then it could explain that amount of money.
But that would mean that this person is at least successful enough in reselling those that it's making a profit out of it, and that's strange if your friend isn't aware.
But the amount of money seems ludicrously high. I can easily see how someone could eventually spend 11k in a year, but 110k ... that's a factor 10 too high in my opinion to be legit spending. It's ... possible I guess.
Or that person is buying GW stock. Considering the average current price for a single action from GW that's not impossible. That would be a strange investment for sure, but it may be possible.
Totally a gambling addiction, a mistress, or fell for some big money scam. Even a cocaine habit at that much money would have some very telling behavioral changes.
Yeah, imo that’s possible but not by spending it on models alone. He could’ve spent money by chasing down OOP books and models, but my guess (apart from the suggestions of it being a cover for something else) would be a remodel of a gaming room to play Warhammer, with custom table, dice, cupholders, whatever, you name it. Plus equipment to paint the models (which could be from different Warhammer games - like 40k, Age of Sigmar, Fantasy etc) and a possible 3D printing setup and/or commissioned titty waifu models. But unless your friend seriously had no clue about what he was doing in the basement or he had a second flat to store his goodies in, my money’s on it being a copout as well.
He's got a side hustle going... I've spent probably around 30ish grand over the 25 years I've been painting... I have 9 armies(10 if you count my 3d printed dark eldar), a TON of epic stuff, and a warhound titan. It takes up 10 curios in my basement, half of my dining room table, and about 8 rubbermaids and a rifle case under the stairs(to be fair, 5 of those are full of bits and can be condensed down to about 2). CAN you spend 100k on warhammer in a year? Sure. Can you spend that much without having an intervention or 2 before hitting it? No way.
I could see someone spending 110k if they invested heavily in painting commissions, Forgeworld titans, and out of print items.
Is this a healthy person to show so little restraint? Probably not, but it could happen.
You can spend 110,000 on lots of things in a year but it wouldn’t be easy without some dedication to purchasing everything you see that is warhammer. He was most likely spending money on someone or something else for it to be that much in a year.
$110k NZD Is probably more realistic than $110k USD but in reality there’s no way someone buys $110k worth of stuff. That’s 1100 standard boxes of units. They must have been buying something else.
Ive spent like $15k/yr on warhammer for the past 4 years or so... and that's like, too much. I'm trying to dial it back because I have a backlog that will last me til the end of my life already. I can't imagine spending that much annually, after 1 year I'd imagine you'd have everything you could ever want or need for every faction in every game.
Wondering if this could have been the mobile game, Warhammer Tacticus. Haven't played it but they tend to be pretty bad with micro transactions and gacha stuff.
What’s even crazier is at that kind of money you would 100% set yourself up as a buisness to buy at wholesale for 55% msrp. So imagine around 200k in warhammer at retail cost.
Some guy worked out you could build the entire ultramarine chapter for around 12k so that’s literally every loyalist first founding chapter and he would still have half his budget left.
Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? I would say no, sounds like something else was probably goin on, it'd be hard to hide that much plastic coming in to your house
I met a dude through Discord, from the UK. We play a few 40k pc games. He says his setup is close to 115k. Airbrush kits, 3d printers, PCs, and ceiling mounted projectors that fire off on the table. To add effects during his games. I mean, this is including his remodeled garage too. Floor to ceiling shelves FILLED with 40k pieces. He has a fucking 18" AND 24" tall titan. Never seen one before that. THIS DUDE HAS TWO. And DAMN DO THEY LOOK SICK AS FUCK. But this is the dudes life collection, and almost failed marriage. So I can say ya if he spent that much. She has filed for a reason....
I mean, yes, in the sense of if you went into the shop and bought their entire stock for months on end, you could rack that up.
But, for context, I worked (a while ago), in a slightly smaller than average GW shop.
That would equate to not much less than our entire annual revenue. That's just not a feasible spending amount for any kind of normal behaviour.
Well looking at Siege Studio pricing: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbv9t7cg74m641.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbv9t7cg74m641.jpg) it was 300 pounds+ for gold level painting of 1 mini (Note that Gold isn't their highest level and Platinum also exists). Assuming you wanted a 4000 point army of the best painted money can buy, 110k seems possible if you wanted freehands, not metallic paint metallics etc. Is this massively overkill? Sure, but consider that an infantry level character can cost 400+ usd to paint each and you could play a swarm army (Orkboys anyone?).
Nope. Either gambling addiction or a second family. Potentially high-end escorts and lots of drugs, but he’d be partying HARD, and it would be difficult to hide that. Difficult to hide a second family too though - so I’m going for gambling
Is that something someone could actually do? Of course. You can buy 110K of magic cards, bananas, or just about anything. Is that needed for gameplay or even something close to normal? No.
I could think of a few possible almost reasonable ways of doing so (assuming you have 110K of disposable income). If you wanted to start a studio that records warhammer games, I could see getting professional cameras, terrain, buying everything of every army, paying someone to paint and assemble it, and grabbing cool things like titans hitting 110K. I don't think someone could assemble and paint 110K of warhammer miniatures in a year on their own unless their abilities and dedication far exceed mine. Even if they buy a titan a day, (something like 2K?) they would have something like 6-7 days to assemble and paint it. Maybe someone could, but that is beyond me and I would not understand the behavior.
More realistically, that sounds more like an addiction of some sort.
If it’s a genuine addiction then it would actually
Be easier to spend $110k than you think.
Just check eBay for commission painted armies that go for $10k each. You could buy 1 a month.
You also have super rare forgeworld terrain tiles that go for $1k each.
Even Warhammer computer games with in-app purchases could get ramped up.
And finally, think about big events or tournaments across the US. Did he travel to LVO etc?
Custom built gaming tables, huge sets of paints, the most expensive airbrushes
Honestly I think I’ve personally spent over £20k in the last 2 years and I’ve been quite shrewd at times haha
If he paid someone to do commission work and paint then yes unfortunately it’s possible
I just went on eBay and found a $15k army painted and available
With GW supply chain issues these days, I would be very impressed if someone spent 110k. Maybe they flew to warhammer world to buy a model whenever it took their fancy.
The sheer volume of space that 110,000 of Warhammer stuff would take up is pretty staggering. Unless her husband used half that money to put an addition on their house that she is unaware of somehow and then he filled it with Warhammer. I think the man probably has a cocaine and hooker problem.
Possible? Sure. But you can literally spend $100k on ANYTHING in a year. Video games, food, cars, whatever. Easy? Not really. GW sells models that are a few thousands dollars each, but those are SUPER rare and MASSIVE. I guess if you bought one of every single product they release for every game system it would get up there, but we're talking hundreds or thousands of boxes a year. The only way to REALISTICALLY do that would be to have a bunch of full armies completely commission painted to the highest level or something.
Possibly spending money traveling to tournaments and events.
Yeah if you fly to tournaments in the US, UK, South Africa, Australia, China, and Russia then you could get to this amount within a year. But you'd be travelling quite a lot. Same problem with the purchasing - you *could* reach that amount, but you'd have to have a staggering amount of storage space for all the crap you bought.
I'm thinking it could be a mixture of buying pre painted services, and traveling to tournaments with a brand new army everytime
That many brand new armies is still gonna be a shitload of space, hrm. Maybe you could sneak by spending this much if you overpaid for entire armies to get commission painted and then sold them at a heavy loss when the meta changed.
Sold? We're stupid and altruistic with cash, those armies got given away.
Or it's just 10 warlords
That’s still only 1/4th of $110,000. And if you bought that many, that’s 20 FW big boxes. Good luck hiding those
I don't know why my brain keeps reading 1/4th as "One Quartereth."
1/3 is one thirth and I’ll never change my mind on that
"Honey, why don't you want me to go into the garage" "It's... a bit occupied right now."
That's assuming GW has 10 Warlords to sell. That would probably be more than they produce in a year.
One of the fun things with titans is that because they come with numbered certificates, we can actually figure out how many they sell. The latest Warlord on Titan Owners' Club right now is certificate number 1912. They launched in May 2015, so approximately 8.75 years of sales. If sales have been steady, that's just under 220 Warlords per year. GW's total revenue for the financial year 2022-23 was £470.8M per their financial report. Today, a complete Warlord titan (taking the body, head, two arm guns and the carapace laser blasters, which seems the most popular configuration) runs £1630. If they sold 220 Warlords in that time (in the UK), they make up £358600 of the revenue for the year, which would be 0.076% of GW's total revenue. However, GW's prices are relatively higher in other markets once the cost gets converted back to GBP (e.g. total warlord cost 2519USD, which converts back to approx 2000GBP at current exchange rates). So any of those 220 titans sold in non-UK markets will mean an increase to the overall revenue from Warlords compared with my above calculation. Additionally GW's sales/revenue have been increasing in general and I wouldn't be surprised if titan sales had also increased proportionally in that period. They probably sold more than 220 in that year. Between those factors I could speculate that Warlord titan sales might realistically have been 0.1% to 0.15% of revenue for 2022-23. To be honest, it's higher than I would have thought, even with how expensive they are! That was oddly fun to work out, even though I could have spent that time painting.
r/theydidthemath Well done
Well in son good numbers
Obviously he bought 2.5 thunderhawks
I tried adding up hypothetical costs for over a dozen GTs a year at 2.5k a piece, $2k+(so much more after painting) armies painted for you, multiple, donations to streamers in the thousands, custom nick nacks or clothing for your events. I had trouble getting much above 60k without just really being ridiculous.
Custom gaming table, multiple custom scenery sets, glass display cabinets, custom gaming room, gaming PC etc, always room to add more
So true, you could easily spend 15k on a table, desks and other stuff, I wouldn't count a PC though that's cheating. Edit: I could see an Ipad specifically for warhammer though, theres another 2k.
I imagine commissioning artists to build and paint specific models could also help piss away wads of dough…
Oh that’s true, painting commissions are plausible. Models alone are definitely not.
Definitely not on models alone. Gw stocking issues make sure of that.
What if its all out of stock because of this lad
Well now that he is single we won't be even able to access GW site anymore. Someone tell that lass to accept him back immediately
Fucking hell, you’ve solved it! This guy’s a walking supply line problem!
Now we know the reason for stocking issues.
And an other house to store them all in. If you spent a hundred grand on Warhammer, your spouse would know about it without a doubt. Your house would be overflowing.
I feel like an order for ~42 fully kitted out Mars-Pattern Warlord Titans might be able to convince them to fire up the resin injectors, after they ask you if you’re okay.
> I feel like an order for ~42 fully kitted out Mars-Pattern Warlord Titans might be able to convince them to fire up the resin injectors, after the~~y ask you if you’re okay~~ payment clears. Fixed that for you.
No no, they’ll do it whether you’re okay or not. The answer just determines if the packing slip says “please enjoy” or “hope this helps”.
>commission painted Which is also the only way you get that volume of models painted in a year. My god can you imagine the pile of shame.
Paying professionals to paint your models can add up fast. Accessories can add up fast.
Sounds like someone was supporting a second family with the surname Warhammer.
They're eating ***well*** at the Warhammer house!
Well I'm sure it has something to do about fucking Horus. Damned if it isnt that Horus and heresy thing again .
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Its spelled whores heresey
I feel like someone told his wife that her husband is going out at the weekend and spending thousands on models. She misunderstood, confronted him about spending the cash on Warhammer and he just rolled with it rather than confess to the affairs with escorts.
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Oh, very nice. Go Team Venture!
"You're the boss, applesauce!"
Mmmmm telll him, tell him to take his shirt off
I've never read all that before. Thanks!
The real John Warhammer
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Oh my gosh XD
Someone was showing their Warhammer to hammer in something something
If he spent 110,000 on models, his wife would know before it reached that point. For that kind of plastic, you'd have to have rooms dedicated in your house to just your collection.
60k went on the secret warehouse to stock the models.
Stack the boxes into a roughly humanoid shape, dress it in clothes and try to pass it off as your son.
“Papa, why did you name me James Workshop?”
HAHAHAH
\*i dont have a gold medal to give you but if i did!\*
This was my thought too. You'd fill a sizeable closet well before the 10k mark, and would need a whole storeroom by the 50k mark. Unless you're buying rare OOP models for wildly inflated prices...this ain't it.
Maybe he’s trying to start an Old World army purely from eBay purchases
"Honey you don't understand, this one is Pro Painted"
I actually lol’d, lol.
I hit the 3k mark after a couple years of collecting, and my girlfriend is already complaining about where on earth to store all my warhammer stuff. I can't imagine what 100k would look like.
Let me introduce you to Dave’s 144,000+ point Chaos army. https://youtu.be/oBRumr3jDP4?si=S8RWOyLaL5fwEqhj
I’m suprised with that many models he only has one of the big titans. I assume cost is not a factor, so in game modes can you only field one at a time?
I just got into Warhammer last year, so I went crazy at the beginning, starting multiple armies, tons of paint/supplies, a new table. Completely filled my office with Warhammer boxes, models, books, paint, etc, and pretty sure I haven't spent more than 2k (I get most of my units from the box sets and/or at 30% off MSRP). There's absolutely no way to spend 100k+ without filling an entire storage shed.
Yeah, like I have one 5 foot shelf and it is \~3000pts of Thousand Sons, \~3000pts of Stormcast, \~1000 points of Necrons and some boxes I store old sprues in. So like... maybe $2.5-3k on that shelf? I can't imagine my house having 30 more of those shelving units and my wife not noticing :D
https://preview.redd.it/0c4gsol8q0kc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdb9e1b4f7497a9f20a9b01826c8f4616c3f4f39 That's about £20,000 worth at games workshop retail price so yeah your talking 4-5 full racks of shelves If it's displayed. That being said you can see how much space is wasted between shelves and having the models sorted. I reckon I could reduce the gaps and get another 30-50% more on those racks and get double again stored in the same area if I used large plastic tubs and bubble wrap. Definitely not going to be a hideable collection.
I have a silly question, what if he wasn’t building or painting himself? I know some of the ork stuff I want especially some of the older stuff goes for 200-1800$. Doing it that way, I think you could pair it down to what you have. Then you add on tournament and travel and 110k is pretty gone quick ish
Commission stuff might slowly creep toward that upper limit, but the issue with tournament travel is how noticeable it would be for it to reach that cost. Easy to blow $1,000 on a GT weekend, but if you went to a GT every weekend, and took an overpriced flight and stayed in a nice hotel for ALL of them, that's still only $52,000. And if you're gone literally every weekend, where are you finding time to hide another $58k in commissions? It very quickly becomes "oh, I understand, the 'other reasons' included 'my husband was gone literally every weekend this year.'"
Thats.....one *VERY* large pile of shame....
My husband and I essentially have a craft/game room that is our paint/build workspace and storage. We have definitely NOT spent 100k on this game. That amount of plastic would have to be its own storage unit or packed so full you can’t move around.
Not realistically unless the guy has a warehouse full of boxes upon boxes of models. Sounds like hiding expenditures
usually people make up something to hide their expenses on warhammer... I've never heard of it being the other way around.
He's been betting on the ponies all named after the Primarchs, or all that Warhammer went up his nose.
Sanguinius may be 75-1, but he's due I tells ya!
He was doing good during the last race until Horus kicked him in the face.
That’s a lot “nose Warhammer”, in a year. He’d be suffering heart failure at this point.
That’s the problem with Nosehammer, once you start you just can’t stop. And your pile of shame is the contents of your sinus cavities.
All fun and games till you get addicted to green stuff
I mean, you're right. I could buy 11k with a huge disposable income but 110k? There's no way that could happen without anyone close to the person noticing.
This one sounds like gambling to me. Specifically online gambling, assuming this is in the US. So many people have been getting sucked in and losing obscene amounts of money over the last couple of years.
Either gambling or online girls. Either way it wasnt on models
Might have been models, but not the Warhammer kind.
We should find this warehouse and... "Liberate" the models. For the emperor of course.
Sure, spending any amount of money on anything is possible... With that said, spending $110000 on Warhammer in a year is definitely grounds for divorce unless you're incredibly wealthy. The single most expensive Warhammer kit is the Warlord Titan, a nearly 2 foot tall model (they're literally the size of a small child) that is seen by most people as the absolute pinnacle of 40k models. Each one costs about $2600. To spend $110000 would mean buying 42 Warlord Titans which is insane. Or another way of looking at it: Roughly speaking, the average cost of a 40k kit at the moment is somewhere around $60 (standard cost for most Infantry). $110000 would mean buying 1833 boxes. The only other way I can think of spending that much money would be to commission professionals to build and paint numerous large armies. Commissioned armies can cost several thousand dollars each. If we say $5000 for a commissioned army, that's still 22 armies. No one can reasonably learn and play with 22 separate armies. Edit: Seeing some of the other comments I would have to agree with the theories that "I spent it on Warhammer" is a cover for something else.
Yeah, it didn’t seem feasible to me. Maybe that’s just what he told her he spent it on.
"Yeah baby, $110K all went towards my army of plastic toys. Totally didn't spend it on hookers and blow."
Spent 5k on a pro-painted army, spent 5k on a trip to the Las Vegas Open, spent 100k on hookers in vegas, but because it happened at a warhammer tournament it counts as warhammer!
This guys got c-suite written all over him
If you paid the hookers to cosplay as Sisters of Battle, would that count as spending it on "Warhammer"?
If he is also cosplaying as Tankred while at it, yes. ~~which is entirely justified~~
What happens at Warhammer stays at Warhammer.
Losing money at the casino also counts as Warhammer expenses, right?
GW should open a Warhammer themed casino in the UK.
Paying a hooker to commission paint titans while snorting cocaine from her ass would still count on spending on the hobby.
I've never needed to win the lottery more than this moment.
Be warned, this is what caused the fall of the Eldar.
>Paying a pair of hookers cosplayed as a Sister of Battle and a Slaanesh Daemonette to commission paint titans while snorting cocaine from her asses would still count on spending on the hobby. Let's go a bit further shall we?
He wasn't trying to start a game store or something, right? The only way I could see the $110,000 making sense is if he intended to open a game store or something and was trying to purchase inventory. $110,000 for personal use is tough. Unless he commissioned Michelangelo to paint his minis.
Even that for a normal game store is absolutely insane. I worked as a buyer for one of the largest game stores in the US and we could spend $100k on Warhammer in a year without too many issues, but the vast majority of stores will spend a fraction of that.
Dudes probably got a gambling problem. I spent maybe $1100 on it last year, but that's still a couple zeros shy. That's hundreds of boxes of models. He would need a storage unit to keep it.
>To spend $110000 would mean buying 42 Warlord Titans which is insane. Insane, yeah, but counterpoint: **LEGIO IGNATUM WALKS.**
My man's playing truescale Legion Imperialis, let him cook
Clearly hosting his own [Titan Walk](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/ythjmr/todays_titan_walk_this_is_only_some_of_the_pics/)
Warlord Titans as proxies for lawn gnomes....
Or as proxies for nurglings…
I can see one and only one realistic way this is true, and even then that is a STRETCH. Bought 3 or 4 commissioned armies at $5k a piece. Let's call that an even $20k. A bunch of paints, brushes, airbrush, lights, etc plus models to build himself. Assuming absolutely top of the line everything. That's going to be a few thousand at most, but let's round up to $5k. Travels to a GT literally every weekend: airfare, (high end) hotel, (fancy) food every weekend could hit $1500-2000 every weekend depending on where he's going. That all would hit that number, but no reasonable person is going to frame all that travel as "spending money on warhammer" that's going to be "spending money on trips by himself"
>spend 5000 dollars on paint supplies >commission all the painting anyway Yep.. it's gamer time.
I was thinking commissioned armies too but even then that's CRAZY. I don't play any of the video games. Are there some that do microtransactions? Because I could DEFINITELY see someone going crazy on those and spending that kind of money. And logistically it would be easier because you wouldn't need a warehouse to store everything.
Darktide has Microtransactions, but there simply isn't that much content available to buy! Tacticus is a true mobile gacha game with a LOT of microtransactions... But even then I don't know if you could hit 6 figures. I could see someone managing to spend a couple of grand, but not $110000
I knew people who spent 10's of thousands on game of war. In less than a year. Game of war seriously took the piss though, with 100 dollar chests etc. Still surprised me that people would spend such amounts on a mobile phone game. Rich bastards
Tacticus has $100+ bundles that aren’t much better than chests.
Yep, you can physically buy that much stuff in a year because of course you can, though I do wanna point out that'd be enough per week that you'd be causing many smaller LGSs actual stock issues before long, but actually using it in any productive sense? I mean no fucking way.
Warhammer, or warhammer tacticus? 😂
You laugh, but this was my first thought. We joke about how much this hobby costs, but this isn't Warhammer garage money - this is gambling addiction with microtransactions money.
If that's true it's the saddest possible explanation. If the guy's just lying then he's a garden-variety asshole. If he has a gambling addiction then no one's really the bad guy and this just sucks for everyone.
Warhammer tacticus is pretty bad, but it’s pretty hard to go over a few thousand dollars before maxing everything out. 110k is a full on gambling/slots addiction or second family.
:/ I've never played Tacticus. I do know that some mobile game whales hit six figures. I played Raid for a few months (I know) and the big "tournaments" would have global leaderboards where the top spots were, by mathematical necessity, spending multiple tens of thousands. I'm glad Tacticus isn't on that level.
The only possible reason would be if he's VERY into warhammer tournaments, and bought multiple pro-painted 40k tournament armies while traveling to every competitive event on first class flights and staying in four star hotels. I could probably spend 10k going to the LVO itself easily, if I just go for ultra luxury every step of the way. But then he's spending most of his money on travel, not really on 40k, except that he's traveling FOR 40k.
Agreed, was just about to post something like this. The only way that seems feasible is meta chasing with commissioned armies plus heavy tournament travel at a luxury level. Otherwise the "Warhammer" expenses are just a cover/billing code for a gambling or substance addiction or similar.
Ok but even then, that’s 11 times in a single year….i don’t follow the competitive scene but are there even that many tourneys? And if you are actually at that many tourneys….wouldn’t the community know who this guy is and air out that mystery? The math just don’t check out
There are a LOT of tournaments every year, and it wouldn't be immediately obvious how much money someone spends to attend an event. Last year I went to: **Major Events, requiring significant travel expense** * Tampa Open * Cruisehammer * Las Vegas Open **Regional Events, often requiring a hotel stay** * Salt City GT * Wars on the Shore GT * ROC Hard GT * DaBoyz GT * Fight before Christmas GT * Battle for Salvation GT * Canhammer Team Tournament * CTC GT * Bedlam in the Burgh GT **RTT Events, requiring gas money** * At least 1 per month. If we assume I spent $3000 per major event, $500 per regional event, and $100 per RTT, I spent $14,700 on travel for 40k events last year, and I'm really not a well known player or anything, lol. Lots of these events are regional. ... shit I spent a lot more last year than I thought. Granted at least half of that was paid for by churning credit card points to get free airfare and hotel, but damn. Point is, I wasn't buying high end hotel rooms, and I skipped a lot of the bigger and more expensive events. If I went all out and was really going to every event I wanted to without regard for expense, I could easily top 100k in expenses.
Standart 9 chicken Walker Admech list
Spent $110,000 on admech, and barley has a 3000 point army after all that
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I hate how believable this seems. Reminds me, I need more chickens.
I laughed to hard - can’t help myself
Must be a Guard player
$110,000 would buy you 22,000 Cadian Shock Troopers. In the 4th Edition codex, the twelve companies of the Cadian 8th were shown at a strength 4,000 men. That means this guy spent enough money to buy five **regiments** of guardsmen.
Just thinking about having to paint that many is giving me anxiety...hell I can barely get through a 2k army
Spray them all green and dip them in nuln oil and call it a job done
I don’t know what that means but I chuckled anyway.
It's a Warhammer Army where you overwhelm your opponent with numbers. Back in the day this would mean having five times as many models as the opponent. It's the Warhammer equivalent of death by a million paper cuts.
Don’t even get started about painting them. My friend was gonna go infantry guard, got the combat patrol. Next day he bought a baneblade and never looked back
When a squad of Guardsmen dies he throws them away and buys another box
IMO seems like a cover for something else. Most LGS’s wouldn’t even carry more than 5 figures of inventory. $110k is just mind boggling. You could buy like every single 40K kit multiple times
They don't need to carry it, the just need to order in ~$2k of new releases every week and sell it to him immediately.
Yeah my point was just $110k is waayyyyyyy more than even a store would carry in inventory, meaning it’s an absurd amount of warhammer for one person
Warhammer, huh? Interesting euphemism for a side ho. Seriously though, I've been told that $6000 is already a lot for Warhammer, so there's definitely more to his prodigal spending than plastic figurines and paint.
I spent about 3k last year and that built me two full 2k armies + heaps of extra units+ a bunch of unfinished armies. No way this dude spent that much
Bro founded an entire Space Marine legion. Unless his house is half covered in minis that’s not physically possible. Over the last three and a half years I’ve picked up probably no more than £7-800 of warhammer/bolt action and do you know how much space that takes? Half a closet in the spare bedroom. Probably the usual culprits of gambling/drink/hookers/drugs/stocks/crypto.
The only way I could see that happening in any realistic way is if that person is running a business (successful scalper, maybe even buy to paint reseller, may potentially reach such amount if they're really successful, official business will likely do that too) then it could explain that amount of money. But that would mean that this person is at least successful enough in reselling those that it's making a profit out of it, and that's strange if your friend isn't aware. But the amount of money seems ludicrously high. I can easily see how someone could eventually spend 11k in a year, but 110k ... that's a factor 10 too high in my opinion to be legit spending. It's ... possible I guess. Or that person is buying GW stock. Considering the average current price for a single action from GW that's not impossible. That would be a strange investment for sure, but it may be possible.
They could have gone all in on a big scalp and then failed to sell them.
Totally a gambling addiction, a mistress, or fell for some big money scam. Even a cocaine habit at that much money would have some very telling behavioral changes.
Drugs. The answer is drugs
I do a lot of drugs, but that's over $300 a day, she would have noticed, he'd have been a right state.
Hookers and drugs maybe
We already mentioned warhammer.
Yeah, imo that’s possible but not by spending it on models alone. He could’ve spent money by chasing down OOP books and models, but my guess (apart from the suggestions of it being a cover for something else) would be a remodel of a gaming room to play Warhammer, with custom table, dice, cupholders, whatever, you name it. Plus equipment to paint the models (which could be from different Warhammer games - like 40k, Age of Sigmar, Fantasy etc) and a possible 3D printing setup and/or commissioned titty waifu models. But unless your friend seriously had no clue about what he was doing in the basement or he had a second flat to store his goodies in, my money’s on it being a copout as well.
He's got a side hustle going... I've spent probably around 30ish grand over the 25 years I've been painting... I have 9 armies(10 if you count my 3d printed dark eldar), a TON of epic stuff, and a warhound titan. It takes up 10 curios in my basement, half of my dining room table, and about 8 rubbermaids and a rifle case under the stairs(to be fair, 5 of those are full of bits and can be condensed down to about 2). CAN you spend 100k on warhammer in a year? Sure. Can you spend that much without having an intervention or 2 before hitting it? No way.
Are you offering me 110k to spend on this game, but only if I do it in a year?
Is your friends husband the owner of a hobby shop and she totally misunderstood him taking about his day?
bro bought all 40,000 warhammers
I could see someone spending 110k if they invested heavily in painting commissions, Forgeworld titans, and out of print items. Is this a healthy person to show so little restraint? Probably not, but it could happen.
You can spend 110,000 on lots of things in a year but it wouldn’t be easy without some dedication to purchasing everything you see that is warhammer. He was most likely spending money on someone or something else for it to be that much in a year.
110k would be like 50-60 Warlord Titans?
Around 42 depending on wargear.
Nice thanks, I guessed 50-60 without noticing $ and not £!
$110k NZD Is probably more realistic than $110k USD but in reality there’s no way someone buys $110k worth of stuff. That’s 1100 standard boxes of units. They must have been buying something else.
So that's where all the stock has been going...
Did the guy build a 2k pts army **in 1:1 scale**??
Is he Australian? Cuz for them that's 1 AdMech army.
Warhammer is a strange name for a mistress
Ive spent like $15k/yr on warhammer for the past 4 years or so... and that's like, too much. I'm trying to dial it back because I have a backlog that will last me til the end of my life already. I can't imagine spending that much annually, after 1 year I'd imagine you'd have everything you could ever want or need for every faction in every game.
Maybe he spend money on some very special propaint Models from an professional Artist.
What a legend if this is true
Was it on the mobile game tacticus? That’s the only way I can imagine spending that juch
Wondering if this could have been the mobile game, Warhammer Tacticus. Haven't played it but they tend to be pretty bad with micro transactions and gacha stuff.
What’s even crazier is at that kind of money you would 100% set yourself up as a buisness to buy at wholesale for 55% msrp. So imagine around 200k in warhammer at retail cost. Some guy worked out you could build the entire ultramarine chapter for around 12k so that’s literally every loyalist first founding chapter and he would still have half his budget left.
Can you please ask your friend to take a picture of the "$110,000" warhammer collection. I need to know what this looks like.
Now we know who is buying all the scalped copies of The End and the Death.
Baller move when she turns up at his gaming club with half his collection and a grudge to pay.
Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? I would say no, sounds like something else was probably goin on, it'd be hard to hide that much plastic coming in to your house
We found the guy who bought the metal thunderhawk I guess.
The dude is probably playing Ad Mech
Typical admech player
That's half of a Warlord titan.
If that’s in Australian dollars, then he probably bought a starter set and a pot of Nuln oil
I met a dude through Discord, from the UK. We play a few 40k pc games. He says his setup is close to 115k. Airbrush kits, 3d printers, PCs, and ceiling mounted projectors that fire off on the table. To add effects during his games. I mean, this is including his remodeled garage too. Floor to ceiling shelves FILLED with 40k pieces. He has a fucking 18" AND 24" tall titan. Never seen one before that. THIS DUDE HAS TWO. And DAMN DO THEY LOOK SICK AS FUCK. But this is the dudes life collection, and almost failed marriage. So I can say ya if he spent that much. She has filed for a reason....
Unless he's got a storage unit somewhere, if he had spent $110K on this hobby in a year she'd be VERY aware of it.
Easily. By commissioning professional painters
I mean, yes, in the sense of if you went into the shop and bought their entire stock for months on end, you could rack that up. But, for context, I worked (a while ago), in a slightly smaller than average GW shop. That would equate to not much less than our entire annual revenue. That's just not a feasible spending amount for any kind of normal behaviour.
Well looking at Siege Studio pricing: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbv9t7cg74m641.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbv9t7cg74m641.jpg) it was 300 pounds+ for gold level painting of 1 mini (Note that Gold isn't their highest level and Platinum also exists). Assuming you wanted a 4000 point army of the best painted money can buy, 110k seems possible if you wanted freehands, not metallic paint metallics etc. Is this massively overkill? Sure, but consider that an infantry level character can cost 400+ usd to paint each and you could play a swarm army (Orkboys anyone?).
100K? Dunno, but definitely 40K
So the out of stock issue is not because of scalpers, it's this guy
He the one buying all GW stock then reselling?
Nope. Either gambling addiction or a second family. Potentially high-end escorts and lots of drugs, but he’d be partying HARD, and it would be difficult to hide that. Difficult to hide a second family too though - so I’m going for gambling
"Plastic crack addiction" is a common joke among us fans. But for some, it is a very real addiction.
if they collected all the HH books maybe
Sounds about right for the price of a Warlord Titan.
If they were rare OOP models or he commissioned pro paint jobs, I could see it.
Is that something someone could actually do? Of course. You can buy 110K of magic cards, bananas, or just about anything. Is that needed for gameplay or even something close to normal? No. I could think of a few possible almost reasonable ways of doing so (assuming you have 110K of disposable income). If you wanted to start a studio that records warhammer games, I could see getting professional cameras, terrain, buying everything of every army, paying someone to paint and assemble it, and grabbing cool things like titans hitting 110K. I don't think someone could assemble and paint 110K of warhammer miniatures in a year on their own unless their abilities and dedication far exceed mine. Even if they buy a titan a day, (something like 2K?) they would have something like 6-7 days to assemble and paint it. Maybe someone could, but that is beyond me and I would not understand the behavior. More realistically, that sounds more like an addiction of some sort.
If it’s a genuine addiction then it would actually Be easier to spend $110k than you think. Just check eBay for commission painted armies that go for $10k each. You could buy 1 a month. You also have super rare forgeworld terrain tiles that go for $1k each. Even Warhammer computer games with in-app purchases could get ramped up. And finally, think about big events or tournaments across the US. Did he travel to LVO etc? Custom built gaming tables, huge sets of paints, the most expensive airbrushes Honestly I think I’ve personally spent over £20k in the last 2 years and I’ve been quite shrewd at times haha
His pile of shame must be impressive.
He's definitely cheating lol
Yeah he decided to start an admech army
If he paid someone to do commission work and paint then yes unfortunately it’s possible I just went on eBay and found a $15k army painted and available
With GW supply chain issues these days, I would be very impressed if someone spent 110k. Maybe they flew to warhammer world to buy a model whenever it took their fancy.
I'm building a OOP squat army...
The sheer volume of space that 110,000 of Warhammer stuff would take up is pretty staggering. Unless her husband used half that money to put an addition on their house that she is unaware of somehow and then he filled it with Warhammer. I think the man probably has a cocaine and hooker problem.