Upkeep and maintenance will wipe away any savings.
My dad moved into a brand new RV about 6 years ago. They arent made for continuous living and daily use, so hes already replaced most his appliances, and struggles with the cheap particle board and press board retaining any amount of moisture and swelling.
He honestly average around $500 a month in maintance and upkeep, and an ocassional $1000+ repair or part that ONLY fits on RVs so its extremely expensive just to buy, not counting any labor to put it in.
$270,000 RV that pretty much starts falling apart as soon as you park it for more than a week in the elements
Now hes looking at just getting a new manufactured home for half the cost of the RV thatll last 25 years
Exactly this, my grandparents lived in an RV for a year, and they quickly found out that it did not save them money and sucked ass.
Now, their RV has rotten floor boards, broken piping, and is practically unusable until they dump more money into repairing it so they can at least take it out for vacation.
This is actually really informative. Thank you for posting! This is the "dark side" of owning an RV or trailer that I've never heard talked about. My mom owns a trailer and it seems every summer, something is going wrong with it, so your comments make perfect sense!
They make models for long term use. They used to be called camp models. They look like a slightly shrunken single wide mobile home. They are still made, second hand you can find them cheap and in good shape.
I've known people with them. They are built much better for living in, however they don't seem to be as good for towing around. They are heavy, and not really designed to be drug all over the country. But if you only move it to chase the warm weather a few times a year, or just park it somewhere, they hold up. Just need to research the manufacturer, some of them just build shit.
This is why, if you're going to be ***living full time*** in an RV you have one custom built out of premium materials (basically a house on wheels) rather than buying the mass-market garbage that is made of particle board and designed to last only long enough to outlast their warranty.
Manufactured homes are nearly as bad. I grew up in one. The hot water heater fell through the floor. The siding fell apart. The roof had to be redone twice. We only had it 15 years and we ended up basically rebuilding most of it during that period.
UPDATE- I thought it was weird that the listing said "beautiful backyard view" so I asked about it and it turns out you're not allowed to go in the backyard. Or the garage.
Are you by any chance in Toronto? Because we are paying the rent is crazy here. People are working full-time to keep their heads over the water. It's terribly depressing.
In canada the sticks are just as bad. I live in a small town and you can't find a place for less then 1.7k and they're all trash heaps. Canada is a sinking ship.
When I lived in a small city the average rent was $900, and a provincial capital where I am now is about $1300 for a one-person apartment, where on Earth are you?
The average rent in BC is $1721 for a decent two-bedroom apartment in a community >10000 people. If we were to exclude Vancouver from the list, it would probably go down though, as the average rent there is (goddamn) $2,950 across all types of buildings.
For $1300 you could probably get a decent 1 bedroom in a smaller city, but it's still one of the most expensive places in Canada. A single apartment, fairly maintained, away from the major metropolitan areas would probably make a good difference for OP, but of course that necessitates moving costs and a decent job there.
My girlfriend and I are moving from east LA County to Oklahoma. I got a job that pays LITERALLY the same amount as my company does here, but cost of living is 45% cheaper in OK.
We'll probably jump around again a couple times for a promotion or two.
We decided together. Why the fuck should we be poor here in CA, when someone wants to offer the same money somewhere else.
Maybe you’ll get terribly bored and homesick in Oklahoma. I’m not saying this in a mean way, but sometimes people stay in their home state for valid reasons.
In Canada you're hard pressed to find any rental that's less then 1.7k. And the government does nothing to control the rents because it would crash our economy. So we're just fucked lol.
But I guess if I ask nicely then maybe.
How would controlling rent crash the economy? If anything, people will have extra spending cash to stimulate the economy.
High rent costs just siphons wealth into fewer hands.
This isn't how renting works in America. You can't convince a landlord to add appliances or drop rent to supplement when they can just get literally anyone else to fill the vacancy.
When there’s a surplus of supply there is no reason to exploit the so called demand. There isn’t a housing shortage however there is a pricing problem.
A ‘surplus of supply’? Really? Do tell us more about this vast abundance of housing in high-demand rental markets like New York, Paris, Toronto, Sydney and Los Angeles.
Where are all those secret houses and apartments hiding? Is there a special access code?
The whole rental property hustle is beginning to get pretty ridiculous. It seems like a lot of people are out there “getting someone else to pay off their assets” and a lot of units with substandard living conditions are popping up. Local governments have to start cracking down on this kind of nonsense.
This is the norm in Canada, and if they cracked down on it, it would crash our economy and put us into a recession, so the government won't do shit lol. I wish I was American.
Where in the world is this?
In Vancouver, Canada, that'll get you a spot in a 2 bedroom+Den & you don't even get any bedroom or den area to sleep, they put you in the living room 😹
Whilst sharing the apartment with 4-5 random people who can't afford the rent so they sublet
You can't live in any major city with just minimum wage alone. You have to have roommates or just stay stuck living at your parents house. Now I can see myself paying that amount of money for a three bedroom two bath house a month. but paying that much for basically a walk in closet, you landlord or landlady, can go straight to hell.
What a meme. However, if the hot plate is an induction one that's much better than a gas/electric cooktop in a small place. I have a gas oven/cooktop and I never use it because my induction plate doesn't make the kitchen hot, boils water significantly faster, doesn't make the handles a burn risk, and is cool enough to touch seconds after removing a pot of boiling water.
I also have a toaster oven/air fryer/dehydrator that I use for most oven things, but sometimes you gotta bake a sheet or two of cookies and it's just not close to big enough. For daily use it's definitely the best tho.
That's a great deal! I bought in 2018 so, I consider myself to be blessed. I was able to get a house w a low interest rate and before everything went to shit!
Right!? I live under a bridge in Oregon and I don't pay any rent at all!
These people who live in popular cities where the market determines value for lease are just dummies.
That means nothing when gas, inflation and rent outpace wages, like is the case in California. Why do you think there is a homeless epidemic in the entire failed state?
Ahhh okay. So when did you get that 2008? Because what I'm trying to say is that natives are being pushed out by prices. So you coming here saying these unobtainable prices are worthless basically just a brag "you'll never get this" is accurate.
Everytime I see posts like this I just can't get over the price. You could get a 4 bedroom house for that here....
Edit: decided to check and yea, 4 bedroom 3 bathroom semi detached house for £1,700 a month
Shit I pay $715 for a room in a house and the use of the bathroom and kitchen and laundry room and it has a oven in it for the small price of course I only have to pay for half of the rent I have a co house mate who pays for the other half of it
What’s really heartbreaking is that my family was able to get a 1440 sq ft home mortgage @ $1400/month. But only because we were able buy years ago; before the residential market prices exploded. My younger in-laws have missed that window of “semi reasonable” home prices, and now they are left in this rising rental spiral - barely able to cover rent prices.
It is terribly unfair to see that more people can’t reach a life goal of home ownership, and that landlords are taking advantage of this market. We can hope for the housing market bubble to burst sometime soon, but even then will prices and interest rates drop enough to make it truly affordable for new homebuyers?
It is really frustrating that for my generation, homeownership is a dream that most of us feel that we'll never attain. Rent is so high and other basic necessities like groceries are so expensive that you can't save enough for a down payment.
Ugh for real? I’m sorry the housing/rental market is so crazy right now. We pay $2400 for our mortgage for a 3000 sq ft, 4 bed, 3 bath house with 2 car garage on about an acre with in-ground pool. It’s crazy to me that people want $1700 for a room.
Tbf. I bought it three years ago but a decent sized city in iowa so not a super HCOL but enough for apartments. I literally only bought my house because every apartment was $1200+ for a one bedroom
[And a hot plate!](https://youtu.be/IhmFCX9Bq3k?si=xP47_VQH3-Q8wHOE&t=14)
But yeah, that's weak. Makes me so pissed off that "landlords" can get away with this without hesitation. You shouldn't have to sell a kidney just to have a roof over your head. We're living in the future, yet we, the simple people, keep getting gouged like the middle ages.
Man that used to be $100 a week 20 years ago and then went up to $150 a week 5 years later and that seemed so outrageous. And these were Long Island New York prices.
I have two friends in the lower side in Manhattan who split a $3600 month apartment and their stove has been broken for almost a year. But their landlord gave them a hot plate to cook on lol.
Thats crazy,the state I live in Australia you cant even sell a place without a working oven/stove, a mate of mine went to sell his place (and It was run down and he did no maintenance on it) and the new owners demolished it.Even tho it was getting demolished he had to buy a brand new oven and get it installed by a sparky.LOL
For $1,700/month, you get a fancy 2,000 sq ft, 4-bedroom flat in a beautifully restored historical building over here. Renters here bring their own appliances, though.
A flat like the one in that ad would cost maybe $500-$700/month, including most costs except electricity.
Sounds like my 180sq ft apartment I short term rented in Tokyo back in 2012.
$2500/month and I had to choose between 1sq ft of counter space or the hot plate, but not both...
Getting a tent and living in there for as long as it's warm seems like a better option. Helps to offset costs a bit and gives you time to find a better deal. This is pure insanity!
I'm a homeowner and I do all of my cooking on a hot plate. Sometimes two hotplates if it's complex. I've got a Wolfgang Puck pressure oven if I need to do speed baking and we eat fresh cooked meals every day. I like this so much than those giant old ranges, it takes up a lot less space overall and it's induction so it uses less electricity. Hot plate cooking is great.
That's just a stupid amount of money for rent, though. It's double my mortgage. This shit is wrong.
My son rented a tiny apartment downtown in major city that only provided a microwave and a hot plate. For anything more, there was a community kitchen. It sucked. Imagine, for example, wanting to prepare a Thanksgiving meal, along with the other 40 building residents who also wanted to do the same thing. Or just wanting to bake a frozen pizza and you have to go to a different floor to get to an oven.
Cincinnati $1700 will get you a4 bedroom house with 3.5 bathrooms and a background a pool and a dog 🐕 😂 and some cool neighbors to barbecue with, you can also have that job that pays the same as the job in California. We have plenty of large corporate jobs here. Many companies have their headquarters here. The traffic isn’t too bad either compared to East or west coast. I have lived in DC / Maryland and Boston and Florida, and I have always ended up coming back to southern Ohio. Money goes farther and you can’t put a price on your piece of mind ❤️
Partly because cities are where most of the jobs are.
Partly because cities are where most of the amenities are. Driving half an hour to the nearest gas station sucks, and being at least that far from the nearest hospital is even worse.
Partly because cities have better hospitals. A lot of rural areas have life-threatingly bad medical care even if you make that long drive.
Partly because many of the places that have low rents are places where anyone who isn't a conservative, CIS-het white Christian male has to fear for their lives on a daily basis, and has a state/local government that is actively hostile to them.
Ah okay. I’m an immigrant minority, born in the Caribbean, grew up in NYC my whole life, now live in San Antonio where it has everything you mentioned minus the exorbitant rent. I’m also Agnostic, non-White. I’ve lived in many different states. CA, UT, OH, FL.
You also said, many of the places. So there are places that don’t have those negatives that you mentioned. Which takes me back to the same question.
Is the Partly thing some type of slam poetry?
Last I checked, San Antonio was a city.
And no, it's based on a few decades of living in both cities and rural areas in various places around the country.
I only had a 3 year sample living and working in a conservative, Trump-loving town in OH. I never felt in any kind of danger at all, or received any animosity from anyone. The Nigerian immigrants I worked with were happy with the money they were making and the low cost of living.
The weirdest thing was actually how friendly everyone was compared to NYC. I had to get accustomed to saying hello and smiling to strangers, and being able to make eye contact with people, who say good morning, rather than “WTF are you looking at?”. Lmfao. That was seriously the biggest difference. And the silence at night, hearing crickets instead of sirens. Oooooh so dangerous lol those mean White Christians. They were all out to get me with their pitchforks hahaha.
I hate Donald Trump, but yeah…it’s not that serious. I guess I laugh it off because the crime rate in my home country and where I grew up in NYC is actually bad, and it’s actually dangerous. That the thought of what is scary to some other people is just laughable to me. I guess that’s what First World Problems is.
NYC is notoriously unfriendly compared to many cities.
I think those that are pushing legislation to exterminate certain demographics and have a history of (sometimes lethal) violence are dangerous. But I can see how someone who is not a target and has nobody they care about that is may not see the danger. Or maybe death simply does not scare you.
How old are your parents when did they buy their house what is their mortgage house probably paid off what’s is their credit score?!? Ask this guy what his is. And like I said I didn’t ask your parents lmfao I said you got buy a house right now and tell me your mortgage. Go now lmfao
Fuck outta here with my parents bro my parents got a house on land in snohomish and thier mortgage is what my cell bill is. You obviously know nothing about life and the world and cost of living and owning a home and renting to someone who when they leave you may have to spend thousands to fix the damages lmfao renters need to have better credit and better jobs can’t afford it go buy
Well. What if i tell you apartments in Germany come without kitchen at all. You have to buy it yourself, bring it or buy it from the tenant you succeed.
Edit: the following doesn’t mean I think this listing is a good deal. Can’t believe I actually have to clarify that………
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I mean, 1,700 is the going rate for a studio apartment where I am, typically without utilities, for a 1 bedroom even without a stove this would probably be under market rate here. We have less than a .01% vacancy rate, and the apartments that get built are all “luxury” apartments. I’ve literally never heard of “luxury” studio apartments until I moved here.
Yeah…that’s pretty common lol. The less things they have to bring in and fix, the better. We had to get a few things plus a fridge and pay close to $2k a month. It’s not landlords. It’s supply and demand. Blame the financial investors that flooded and dried up the housing market which forced future buyers out and they went into just saving their money and renting.
They fail to mention that the "1.0 bathrooms" just means there's an Orange Home Depot bucket beside the hose attached to the neighbor's spigot.
Doubles as the kitchen!
Rafi’s toilet kitchen?!
The one and only!
Gotta love those pocket dogs
It was a typo… 0.1
aka "bathroom 1.0 (alpha)"
It has a bidet?!
And a bidet to you, sir!
My 32 foot RV has a gas range with four burners and it’s 400 a month.
My wife and I consider moving into an RV more and more with each passing month.
Upkeep and maintenance will wipe away any savings. My dad moved into a brand new RV about 6 years ago. They arent made for continuous living and daily use, so hes already replaced most his appliances, and struggles with the cheap particle board and press board retaining any amount of moisture and swelling. He honestly average around $500 a month in maintance and upkeep, and an ocassional $1000+ repair or part that ONLY fits on RVs so its extremely expensive just to buy, not counting any labor to put it in. $270,000 RV that pretty much starts falling apart as soon as you park it for more than a week in the elements Now hes looking at just getting a new manufactured home for half the cost of the RV thatll last 25 years
Exactly this, my grandparents lived in an RV for a year, and they quickly found out that it did not save them money and sucked ass. Now, their RV has rotten floor boards, broken piping, and is practically unusable until they dump more money into repairing it so they can at least take it out for vacation.
RV's are just land boats when it comes to maintenance/operational costs
This is actually really informative. Thank you for posting! This is the "dark side" of owning an RV or trailer that I've never heard talked about. My mom owns a trailer and it seems every summer, something is going wrong with it, so your comments make perfect sense!
It's literally the dirge of every recreational vehicle. There's a reason they're so excited to sell it to you.
Look up last week tonight's episode on RVs. Pretty enlightening.
They make models for long term use. They used to be called camp models. They look like a slightly shrunken single wide mobile home. They are still made, second hand you can find them cheap and in good shape. I've known people with them. They are built much better for living in, however they don't seem to be as good for towing around. They are heavy, and not really designed to be drug all over the country. But if you only move it to chase the warm weather a few times a year, or just park it somewhere, they hold up. Just need to research the manufacturer, some of them just build shit.
Airstreams, actual metal and structurally sound.
This is why, if you're going to be ***living full time*** in an RV you have one custom built out of premium materials (basically a house on wheels) rather than buying the mass-market garbage that is made of particle board and designed to last only long enough to outlast their warranty.
Manufactured homes are nearly as bad. I grew up in one. The hot water heater fell through the floor. The siding fell apart. The roof had to be redone twice. We only had it 15 years and we ended up basically rebuilding most of it during that period.
I lived in an RV for like half a year. It wasn’t nice by any means, or well kept, but it was cheap af lol
I'd like to hear more stories like this and find out what brands or if it's all brands
Where do you live? Have you heard of the tiny house movement?
Are you renting out your RV?
UPDATE- I thought it was weird that the listing said "beautiful backyard view" so I asked about it and it turns out you're not allowed to go in the backyard. Or the garage.
> "beautiful backyard **view**" Look don't touch!
Run, don’t walk, away from this
Are you by any chance in Toronto? Because we are paying the rent is crazy here. People are working full-time to keep their heads over the water. It's terribly depressing.
This is true in California, too. Well, the popular cities. Out in the sticks aren't as bad.
In canada the sticks are just as bad. I live in a small town and you can't find a place for less then 1.7k and they're all trash heaps. Canada is a sinking ship.
1.7k USD or CAD?
When I lived in a small city the average rent was $900, and a provincial capital where I am now is about $1300 for a one-person apartment, where on Earth are you?
Not OP but in BC $1300 gets you an apartment in a complete shithole, middle of nowhere, population 500
The average rent in BC is $1721 for a decent two-bedroom apartment in a community >10000 people. If we were to exclude Vancouver from the list, it would probably go down though, as the average rent there is (goddamn) $2,950 across all types of buildings. For $1300 you could probably get a decent 1 bedroom in a smaller city, but it's still one of the most expensive places in Canada. A single apartment, fairly maintained, away from the major metropolitan areas would probably make a good difference for OP, but of course that necessitates moving costs and a decent job there.
Yep. I live in Vancouver. It’s over for me. As soon as I get my degree, as depressing as it is, I’m moving literally anywhere else.
My girlfriend and I are moving from east LA County to Oklahoma. I got a job that pays LITERALLY the same amount as my company does here, but cost of living is 45% cheaper in OK. We'll probably jump around again a couple times for a promotion or two. We decided together. Why the fuck should we be poor here in CA, when someone wants to offer the same money somewhere else.
Maybe you’ll get terribly bored and homesick in Oklahoma. I’m not saying this in a mean way, but sometimes people stay in their home state for valid reasons.
Only one way to find out 🤷♂️
Am in California. Browsing Zillow rentals and seeing $1400-$1700 for 300sq ft studios is so disheartening
I’m seeing these places in Oregon. Walled off garages with hot plates for $1600. Shit is ridiculous.
Come visit Chicago. We have rent issues but it’s not quite as bad lol
For $1700 I expect at least a 2-burner stove with a compact oven. Fuck these landlords.
For $1700 for a one bedroom, I'd expect a 4-burner stove and oven. Why are you guys selling yourself short? Start demanding what you deserve.
That's all I had to do this whole time? OMG thank you!
In Canada you're hard pressed to find any rental that's less then 1.7k. And the government does nothing to control the rents because it would crash our economy. So we're just fucked lol. But I guess if I ask nicely then maybe.
We are all fucked. Seriously.
How would controlling rent crash the economy? If anything, people will have extra spending cash to stimulate the economy. High rent costs just siphons wealth into fewer hands.
This isn't how renting works in America. You can't convince a landlord to add appliances or drop rent to supplement when they can just get literally anyone else to fill the vacancy.
Yeah I know. I'm just pissed that we have no choice but to let these leaches walk all over us.
If that is true then the rent is not out of line for the market.
Ok
I feel crazy we pay for a $1500 3 bed 2 bath 1700sq feet
That is an insanely good deal in a lot of the US.
Could be a basement rental or something. Some jurisdictions don't allow stoves/ovens in basements.
Maybe it is a flat in Paris just 500 meters from the Arc De Triumph?
And maybe 800 square feet if you're not gonna throw in an oven.
Yes, fuck the law of supply and demand.
When there’s a surplus of supply there is no reason to exploit the so called demand. There isn’t a housing shortage however there is a pricing problem.
A ‘surplus of supply’? Really? Do tell us more about this vast abundance of housing in high-demand rental markets like New York, Paris, Toronto, Sydney and Los Angeles. Where are all those secret houses and apartments hiding? Is there a special access code?
Hot plate...AND microwave!
But bring your own extension cord since there is only one outlet and that's in the front room.
The whole rental property hustle is beginning to get pretty ridiculous. It seems like a lot of people are out there “getting someone else to pay off their assets” and a lot of units with substandard living conditions are popping up. Local governments have to start cracking down on this kind of nonsense.
This is the norm in Canada, and if they cracked down on it, it would crash our economy and put us into a recession, so the government won't do shit lol. I wish I was American.
hmmm canada sounds exactly like new zealand
Where in the world is this? In Vancouver, Canada, that'll get you a spot in a 2 bedroom+Den & you don't even get any bedroom or den area to sleep, they put you in the living room 😹 Whilst sharing the apartment with 4-5 random people who can't afford the rent so they sublet
Yeah, I’m from Vancouver and reading all these comments is very entertaining.
1700 a month and it doesn’t even have a kitchen? It’s definitely time we started eating the rich.
You can't live in any major city with just minimum wage alone. You have to have roommates or just stay stuck living at your parents house. Now I can see myself paying that amount of money for a three bedroom two bath house a month. but paying that much for basically a walk in closet, you landlord or landlady, can go straight to hell.
What a meme. However, if the hot plate is an induction one that's much better than a gas/electric cooktop in a small place. I have a gas oven/cooktop and I never use it because my induction plate doesn't make the kitchen hot, boils water significantly faster, doesn't make the handles a burn risk, and is cool enough to touch seconds after removing a pot of boiling water.
I have a ninja foodi grill/air crisper and an induction hotplate. I can’t remember the last time I actually used my oven/stove.
I also have a toaster oven/air fryer/dehydrator that I use for most oven things, but sometimes you gotta bake a sheet or two of cookies and it's just not close to big enough. For daily use it's definitely the best tho.
I think we have something similar! Mine also has a dehydrator that I’ve used to make apple slices and jerky. Both delicious…
dried apple/banana slices are so good
Induction hobs should be standard now.
Fr. Safer, faster, can be set to an exact temp, built in timers to change temp/turn off. They're just better
Lol I pay 1,700 a month for an electric cooktop too. But I live in Hawaii and it’s a 3bdr so I guess it’s not that bad 🥲
Look at Ohana here flexing. Heh.
I have a 3 bed, 1 bath house 1089 sqft in Colorado and my mortgage is only $1250.00 lol
Previously rented a condo that was somewhere around 1500sqft, 2 bed and 2 bath for $1250/month
That's a great deal! I bought in 2018 so, I consider myself to be blessed. I was able to get a house w a low interest rate and before everything went to shit!
Right!? I live under a bridge in Oregon and I don't pay any rent at all! These people who live in popular cities where the market determines value for lease are just dummies.
I live in a nearly 3000 sq ft house and my total housing cost, mortgage, interest, taxes, insurance is less per month than this.
You must be in the South lol
Not Florida
Yeah but do your local McDonald’s workers make 50k a year? Because mine do lol
50K a year but the rent in the area is 4K a month lol
Yeah I was not saying it as a good thing, I was being extremely sarcastic if anyone didn’t catch my drift 😂😂
That means nothing when gas, inflation and rent outpace wages, like is the case in California. Why do you think there is a homeless epidemic in the entire failed state?
Are we talking California or Montreal? Both, unfortunately.
HA where in the middle of Ault???
CO Springs.
Ahhh okay. So when did you get that 2008? Because what I'm trying to say is that natives are being pushed out by prices. So you coming here saying these unobtainable prices are worthless basically just a brag "you'll never get this" is accurate.
I'm a veteran. Hardly rich. I was able to get a home w a VA loan.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Completely unobtainable for 95% of people. Literally "you'll never get this". Why mislead people?
Hell yeah bro me too. Let’s hang out.
Currently renting for 2000 at a 900sqft with no stove and just a hot plate/microwave/toaster oven, not as impossible as you think yet just as annoying
All I am is rage anymore
Seattle?
I wish!
That's insane, I live in a nice place in Chicago for 1,800 with a roommate. 2 bed, 1 bath, skylight, enclosed balcony, and exposed brick
Do you need another roommate? I'm ready to move in ASAP 😂
Come on down! 💀
Everytime I see posts like this I just can't get over the price. You could get a 4 bedroom house for that here.... Edit: decided to check and yea, 4 bedroom 3 bathroom semi detached house for £1,700 a month
“Comes with microwave and a hot plate” *sometime later, no response* “There’s two BBQ lean pockets in the freezer I’ll throw in”
Shit I pay $715 for a room in a house and the use of the bathroom and kitchen and laundry room and it has a oven in it for the small price of course I only have to pay for half of the rent I have a co house mate who pays for the other half of it
What’s really heartbreaking is that my family was able to get a 1440 sq ft home mortgage @ $1400/month. But only because we were able buy years ago; before the residential market prices exploded. My younger in-laws have missed that window of “semi reasonable” home prices, and now they are left in this rising rental spiral - barely able to cover rent prices. It is terribly unfair to see that more people can’t reach a life goal of home ownership, and that landlords are taking advantage of this market. We can hope for the housing market bubble to burst sometime soon, but even then will prices and interest rates drop enough to make it truly affordable for new homebuyers?
It is really frustrating that for my generation, homeownership is a dream that most of us feel that we'll never attain. Rent is so high and other basic necessities like groceries are so expensive that you can't save enough for a down payment.
Ugh for real? I’m sorry the housing/rental market is so crazy right now. We pay $2400 for our mortgage for a 3000 sq ft, 4 bed, 3 bath house with 2 car garage on about an acre with in-ground pool. It’s crazy to me that people want $1700 for a room.
My 3 bedroom, 1.5 bath 2400sq ft is $800 a month. The fuck?
Where are you located? Cause damn, that’s cheap.
Tbf. I bought it three years ago but a decent sized city in iowa so not a super HCOL but enough for apartments. I literally only bought my house because every apartment was $1200+ for a one bedroom
Oh so you're buying to own. Not the same thing as renting an apartment.
[And a hot plate!](https://youtu.be/IhmFCX9Bq3k?si=xP47_VQH3-Q8wHOE&t=14) But yeah, that's weak. Makes me so pissed off that "landlords" can get away with this without hesitation. You shouldn't have to sell a kidney just to have a roof over your head. We're living in the future, yet we, the simple people, keep getting gouged like the middle ages.
Where is it located
It's a small farming town in Norcal
Miami living.
great deal in Boston
600 sqft for 1700 lmfao where you living
Man that used to be $100 a week 20 years ago and then went up to $150 a week 5 years later and that seemed so outrageous. And these were Long Island New York prices.
I have two friends in the lower side in Manhattan who split a $3600 month apartment and their stove has been broken for almost a year. But their landlord gave them a hot plate to cook on lol.
Mind telling us what state this is? Would help paint a picture
Thats crazy,the state I live in Australia you cant even sell a place without a working oven/stove, a mate of mine went to sell his place (and It was run down and he did no maintenance on it) and the new owners demolished it.Even tho it was getting demolished he had to buy a brand new oven and get it installed by a sparky.LOL
Pretty standard for Japan life
Yeah thanks I rather bring my own microwave (and rest of the kitchen) but pay a somewhat normal price per month.
For $1,700/month, you get a fancy 2,000 sq ft, 4-bedroom flat in a beautifully restored historical building over here. Renters here bring their own appliances, though. A flat like the one in that ad would cost maybe $500-$700/month, including most costs except electricity.
Since you said flat I assume it’s somewhere on the British Isles?
Sounds like my 180sq ft apartment I short term rented in Tokyo back in 2012. $2500/month and I had to choose between 1sq ft of counter space or the hot plate, but not both...
Getting a tent and living in there for as long as it's warm seems like a better option. Helps to offset costs a bit and gives you time to find a better deal. This is pure insanity!
The key to a Grilled Charlie is to melt the cheese on the outside of the sandwich.
Tell me it's Canada without telling me it's Canada.
OP said it’s about 2 hours away from San Francisco
You're paying for the address, not what's inside the four walls.
6 years ago , where i live, $1700 a month would get you a beautiiful big house rental with a garage and yard.
there's a microwave too. you can cook food in there.
Which part of south Florida is this in?
I'm a homeowner and I do all of my cooking on a hot plate. Sometimes two hotplates if it's complex. I've got a Wolfgang Puck pressure oven if I need to do speed baking and we eat fresh cooked meals every day. I like this so much than those giant old ranges, it takes up a lot less space overall and it's induction so it uses less electricity. Hot plate cooking is great. That's just a stupid amount of money for rent, though. It's double my mortgage. This shit is wrong.
My rent is 575 euros a month, includes an air fryer, stove and microwave. I’m lucky. Very.
Which country?
France
Awesome, where? I’ve been to France a lot
Ah nice! I live in Troyes. It’s between Reims and Paris
Yes I think so too! I think I’ve been there or at least drove through there
Has OP said where this is? If it’s an ADU in San Francisco/LA then it’s a good deal, but if it’s in nowhere Oklahoma that changes everything.
It's in California but about 2 hours from SF, not in a large city.
In which direction?
North
I used to use an electric frying pan. It was great for most of what I needed. WEll, I had a toaster, too.
I cooked on a hot plate for 3 years. You easily adapt and learn how to cook entire meals in one pan lol.
My son rented a tiny apartment downtown in major city that only provided a microwave and a hot plate. For anything more, there was a community kitchen. It sucked. Imagine, for example, wanting to prepare a Thanksgiving meal, along with the other 40 building residents who also wanted to do the same thing. Or just wanting to bake a frozen pizza and you have to go to a different floor to get to an oven.
I rent out a 4 bedroom house for $2,200 a month. This is just a hell no.
Cincinnati $1700 will get you a4 bedroom house with 3.5 bathrooms and a background a pool and a dog 🐕 😂 and some cool neighbors to barbecue with, you can also have that job that pays the same as the job in California. We have plenty of large corporate jobs here. Many companies have their headquarters here. The traffic isn’t too bad either compared to East or west coast. I have lived in DC / Maryland and Boston and Florida, and I have always ended up coming back to southern Ohio. Money goes farther and you can’t put a price on your piece of mind ❤️
*laughs in solar power*
and here i am getting shit on in facebook for 500 a mo first last due on move in. the actual fuck.
The Black Rock special 🤣
I’m paying $1200 a month for a 3 bedroom house…
What the ever-loving hell???
Tell em best you can do is $700/month unless they give you a real appliance for cooking.
Jesus christ.. my morgage is cheaper than most apartments. I feel bad for you guys.
lol what a joke. Some landlords need a serious wake up call. At least have a good property/amenities if you’re going to price gouge so much.
Why do people insist on living in cities that charge that much for such property?
Partly because cities are where most of the jobs are. Partly because cities are where most of the amenities are. Driving half an hour to the nearest gas station sucks, and being at least that far from the nearest hospital is even worse. Partly because cities have better hospitals. A lot of rural areas have life-threatingly bad medical care even if you make that long drive. Partly because many of the places that have low rents are places where anyone who isn't a conservative, CIS-het white Christian male has to fear for their lives on a daily basis, and has a state/local government that is actively hostile to them.
Ah okay. I’m an immigrant minority, born in the Caribbean, grew up in NYC my whole life, now live in San Antonio where it has everything you mentioned minus the exorbitant rent. I’m also Agnostic, non-White. I’ve lived in many different states. CA, UT, OH, FL. You also said, many of the places. So there are places that don’t have those negatives that you mentioned. Which takes me back to the same question. Is the Partly thing some type of slam poetry?
Last I checked, San Antonio was a city. And no, it's based on a few decades of living in both cities and rural areas in various places around the country.
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I only had a 3 year sample living and working in a conservative, Trump-loving town in OH. I never felt in any kind of danger at all, or received any animosity from anyone. The Nigerian immigrants I worked with were happy with the money they were making and the low cost of living. The weirdest thing was actually how friendly everyone was compared to NYC. I had to get accustomed to saying hello and smiling to strangers, and being able to make eye contact with people, who say good morning, rather than “WTF are you looking at?”. Lmfao. That was seriously the biggest difference. And the silence at night, hearing crickets instead of sirens. Oooooh so dangerous lol those mean White Christians. They were all out to get me with their pitchforks hahaha. I hate Donald Trump, but yeah…it’s not that serious. I guess I laugh it off because the crime rate in my home country and where I grew up in NYC is actually bad, and it’s actually dangerous. That the thought of what is scary to some other people is just laughable to me. I guess that’s what First World Problems is.
NYC is notoriously unfriendly compared to many cities. I think those that are pushing legislation to exterminate certain demographics and have a history of (sometimes lethal) violence are dangerous. But I can see how someone who is not a target and has nobody they care about that is may not see the danger. Or maybe death simply does not scare you.
Go buy a one bedroom house and tell me what your mortgage is
My parents have a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom house in the same town, and their mortgage is less than this landlord is asking for rent.
2600
Not including any utilities
How old are your parents when did they buy their house what is their mortgage house probably paid off what’s is their credit score?!? Ask this guy what his is. And like I said I didn’t ask your parents lmfao I said you got buy a house right now and tell me your mortgage. Go now lmfao
And I tent my downstairs
For 800
Fuck outta here with my parents bro my parents got a house on land in snohomish and thier mortgage is what my cell bill is. You obviously know nothing about life and the world and cost of living and owning a home and renting to someone who when they leave you may have to spend thousands to fix the damages lmfao renters need to have better credit and better jobs can’t afford it go buy
Well. What if i tell you apartments in Germany come without kitchen at all. You have to buy it yourself, bring it or buy it from the tenant you succeed.
Thanks FJB
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My mortgage is 1800. Think a double wide trailer size and a decent front and back yard.
Edit: the following doesn’t mean I think this listing is a good deal. Can’t believe I actually have to clarify that……… — I mean, 1,700 is the going rate for a studio apartment where I am, typically without utilities, for a 1 bedroom even without a stove this would probably be under market rate here. We have less than a .01% vacancy rate, and the apartments that get built are all “luxury” apartments. I’ve literally never heard of “luxury” studio apartments until I moved here.
Putting luxury in quotation marks is the best way to describe it
Yeah…that’s pretty common lol. The less things they have to bring in and fix, the better. We had to get a few things plus a fridge and pay close to $2k a month. It’s not landlords. It’s supply and demand. Blame the financial investors that flooded and dried up the housing market which forced future buyers out and they went into just saving their money and renting.
It can (and is) the fault of both landlords and the market/investors.
It’s also landlords. Be real