I randomly saw a video of the Naked Run on a porn site a few years ago. I clicked on the profile of the guy who posted it and was shocked to see he was someone I used to live with at the Euclid co-op.
You are so correct. I was in the library at the time studying unaware of the event to come. I was shocked and disgusted about the number of people videoing and making sexual remarks. It completely destroyed the purpose and spirit of the tradition. I thought people would have enough common sense and human decency to not record.
Yeah i agree, in public one doesn't have the expectation of privacy. Dont like it but still want to strip down for the cause, wear a face covering. Welcome to the world, there's cameras everywhere people. Act accordingly. Also get naked, it is really fun.
You could technically photograph and make rude comments at a woman breastfeeding in public, but most understand that is rude and in poor taste. This is the same.
Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it’s not a shitty thing to do.
Not talking about general law and expectation while in public. Just pointing out that there should be a social expectation not to go out of your way to document the fun tradition as it may be damaging.
It may be legal to do so, but you also may be an asshole for doing so.
I'm just not understanding their point.
What are they being naked for? So people will see them.
They want to be wild and free.... in a controlled way and only for a select few people to see.
People who don't want to see them naked, but since it's public they just accept it. It's kind of rude to go around naked. These aren't models. These are eye-sores to look at.
Being naked in public inherently says "we don't respect you" to everyone else.
Exactly. Where’s basic human decency and dignity? Why should others be forced to watch someone running around naked? Their right to run naked interferes with our right not to be assaulted by this sight. Despicable to see narrow minded folks push their extremist agendas on the rest of us, forcing their naked bodies and fetishes on others.
Interesting how OP managed to speak for hundreds of people with their own narrow mindset of why people do this.
For PLENTY of people attending this is a sexual thing and they’re there in part due to being horny. To think otherwise is to stick your head in the sand and be painfully ignorant. Doesn’t matter if OP believes in fantasy hippie land where nothing is sexual and we’re all here for bonding and human fun.
I was there by chance, and left impressed by how confident people can be. Most people were there because they were studying too but some just came to support. If you think it was solely bc of some horny teens... what does that say about you?
I was referring to the fact of posting/sharing the videos unconsensual. No one is honing to stop you but it’s rude and weird. Yes they are naked in public so you have every right to. These people are consenting to everyone there to see them naked but not necessarily people on the internet etc.
Do you also photograph women breastfeeding in public? Or do you understand that just because something is legal doesn’t mean it isn’t incredibly rude and creepy.
I don’t, but in public you have no expectation or right to privacy. If you do something in public, you don’t get to complain if someone takes a picture.
Seriously, Anytime you are running naked in public you cannot expect someone NOT to post that. People post what their not ing latte looks like - it’s just how things are now.
Posting vids of naked people running online is pervert degenerate tradition too! Lighten up! Just cause it’s tradition doesn’t make it right. Like I get that it’s fun in the moment but there will always be people who think it’s weird. If this wasn’t a college tradition if a group of random people came running naked down your street you would think it’s weird too.
What's the difference of public and internet?
It's weird they only want people to see the naked in person and not on a screen.
You have to be close enough to smell it?
Don't get naked in public if u don't want to end up on the net. Simple stuff.
Respect me and family by not running around the street naked and then having the gall to say no filming while you are running in naked in public we live in a fucking clown world
Yup they’re running down the street naked (didn’t know Mainstacks was suddenly the street). Lighten up and have fun dude. Nothing wrong with being naked if people are consenting to viewing and participating.
But it makes their imaginary friend mad! Those first 2 people thought a fruit looked yummy and ended up gaining knowledge, so now their imaginary friend wants us covered at all times!
But genociding people he doesn't like is ok!
Are you equating a group of people jogging naked with an individual targeting a young person with the exposure? It's not really the same. Nudity isn't crazy dude
Yea fr this shit sounds like it was written by some hippie that believes in crystal healing and barefoot walking or some equally stupid nonsense.
No, it is not asexual. No, you do not speak for everyone. No, it is not just about bonding and decompressing, that can be done clothed, there is zero link. No, the people in the library don’t consent. No, it is not devoid of people for whom this is a fetish, on both sides.
This. Also, to piggyback on this post, anyone’s who’s coming to watch the naked run for sexual gratification will be sorely disappointed lol
Can’t speak for others but I watch because it’s a school tradition and also bc I’m curious to see how many will actually participate.
This post is doing more harm than good. Now, all the reddit freaks are going to show up with cameras. This showed up in my timeline, and I'm not a part of this sub.
If you don't want the possibility of being filmed, maybe don't become nude in public? Random thought, but you don't have a right to force your nudity on others. Everyone else does have the right to film in public spaces.
I don’t even go to this school and like am I reading this correctly? People are doing a run naked and expecting not to be filmed, photographed or have sex jokes made? In public? What am I missing? Lmao
This is a tradition at many schools around the country. I even went to a school where this was done and partook it in. But I agree with the people who think that they should get special treatment because they want to get special treatment are delusional.
Do a naked run at a nude resort if you want people to respect the human body, otherwise you're asking for what ever bs people do aside from laying hands/hurting physically someone.
Fuck around and find out. Play clown games get clown prizes. You want to roll naked through the streets knowing every Tom Dick and Harry has a phone camera that’s on you boo.
Not condoning the behavior but if you’re going to illegally do something like the naked run; you should expect people like that to come, it’s the nature of the event to attract perverts, this isn’t some sanctioned activity you get a ticket for with security, you’re living in a fairy tail world expecting people to respect the naked run, don’t participate if you can’t come to terms with the fact creepy people will watch and record naked coeds running around on campus at night , like what?
one can still strive to create a more consensual world despite the presence of non-consensual actions/norms. regardless, you’re invited to live in the fairy world with me (but only if you want to). 💜✨🧚
Consent is a hell of a funny word to be using in this context when the runners aren’t asking for the consent of people around before being nude.
And if the argument is the people are consenting by being there, then the same goes for being filmed in a public space.
To be clear, I support the right of people to do stuff like this, our nudity taboos are overblown. But O also support the right of people to film anything that happens in public and distribute it because that’s an important part of a free society. That’s how police are held responsible, etc.
More importantly, it’s public space so people have a moral right to be able to record what they see.
In a vacuum, I agree more with you that it would be nice if people didn’t record it and upload it. But it’s massively hypocritical to frame it the way you do.
You bring up a lot of valid and important points, and it’s not lost on me that there can certainly be more harm reduction + consensual practices on the part of the runners!
Even though nudity is not inherently sexual, and the point of the run is not exhibitionism—exhibitionism being to derive sexual pleasure from exposing oneself/one’s sexual acts— as some have argued, it’s important to acknowledge that some people do have trauma related to nudity, often related to the strict taboos/connotations that we described in our posts. Here are some of my ideas to make it more consensual on behalf of the people in the library that are not participants:
1. Have an organizer/participant of the run announce that the run will include nudity and that nudity will be present, explicitly stating the floors where nudity will occur.
2. Designate a nude-free floor for people triggered/not consenting to see nude people, giving people time to relocate to that floor before the run starts.
3. Posting signs on entry ways of the floors said run goes through: “Nudity present on this floor from *start run time* to *end run time*”
Consent is a two way street (or an infinite intersection, depending on how many beings are involved)— I appreciate you extending this dialogue beyond the runners!
Do you know what it is? It is only in the UC Berkeley mainstack library, and a long-standing tradition since the 1970s, condoned by the university. While photography and filming is of course legal in public space the poster is asking politely to their fellow students to not.
That is true that it breaks a few UC Berkeley rules, but it is one of those traditions that the school has condoned similar to senior pranks or other traditions that may break the rules, which are common at every university.
Also you can’t really say public photography is moral lol it’s more amoral with consent and immoral without it.
Nudity is inherently sexual though. And not in some incel way, but in a very objective and grounded way.
“Humans were naked before the invention of clothes” yep and what is the biological goal of any species? To reproduce and survive. The human body literally spent millions of years evolving to be sexually attractive to the perceived pluses of their partners.
How do you think cave people reproduced??? Sat down in a fucking circle and discussed consent and personalities and how they like each other’s spirit? Lmfao no, they looked at the bodies they liked, got horny and fucked.
The nude human body is THE MOST BASIC sexual concept known to us you absolute dunce.
A more consensual world in which you force your nudity in front of non consenting members of your community? Or did I miss the day Berkeley became a nudist resort?
You mean a non-consensual action, like seeing people naked in public? You're in public, not everyone consented to seeing your naked bodies. Sure, it's tradition, but that tradition is throwing out the concern of getting consent from all parties already. If you want a more consensual world, this event should be in a designated area, where all people there are aware ahead of time and consenting. If that's not being done, you really can't claim the moral high ground on consent.
I haven’t personally participated in the Naked Run (love being naked, hate running and being filmed without being asked first) but that’s why I outlined the harm reduction steps above that participants and organizers can take since, as we agree, consent is important on behalf of everyone involved. The run already takes place in a designated area, so it’s completely feasible to improve transparency and informed consent through the means that I have described above. I appreciate you emphasizing this!
You’re literally right. Idk why people are fighting you. Consent is two way. People know the is event happens and go to see naked people, I take my clothes off and run so people can see my tits. I consent to being seen naked but not being posted on porn sites. Obviously it’s fine if it happens and I’m considering the worst case scenario and being ok w it, but I’d rather not be sexualized. Lack of clothing does not mean I’m ok w being sexualized! Interesting how this is easy to see if I wore booty shorts. Same principles if I’m naked. I’m curious to know how many people commenting against you have secretly been to the run to gawk anyways. They haven’t done some thinking about sexual norms and it shows.
The irony of this post is palpable.
If you don’t want naked pictures of you on the internet, don’t run around outside naked in public.
Respect peoples’ right to photograph people in public places.
I mean I think its also creepy af to run around in public naked illegaly just because it's "tradition". Sure filming is weird too but its ironic how the post condoning weird behavior is asking to stop weird behavior
So many people commenting not knowing what the run is, and not bothering to look it up. It is only within the UC Berkeley mainstack library, and a long-standing tradition since the 1970s, condoned by the university. While photography and filming is of course legal in public space the poster is asking politely to their fellow students to not. So no, random strangers on the street are not going to be flashed by tons of naked students running around.
Oh I know about the run and I can understand saying "We kindly ask our fellow students to please not record anyone partaking in the run", rather they bring in words like "consent" and other bogus nonsense words in the context of a public space to try and add authority to their demands is wild to me.
If you want to make demands like that; why don't they just ask the administration to secure all phones and other recording devices in the library and from participants during the event?
I’m a voyeur and have been there for 2 years now but I don’t show it and go around making gross statements I just go home and get off to it after it’s not unethical to sexualize memories we’re all adults here
Wow as an alumni from a school with a similar tradition, I can’t believe the responses here.
“It’s not illegal to film in public spaces”
Yeah, of course it’s not? Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t mean you should do it ad neauseam at the expense of others.
People are trying to do something fun here, and you guys are fast tracking yourselves to a self-imposed police state.
I'm always, always, proud to be a bear. But every generation of Cal students after mine just keeps upping the bar on thoughtfulness, inclusiveness, respect and generosity. Thank you for that.
Just popping in to say you know there’s cameras on you and you run by them anyway. You are the reason it goes on the internet. Try running somewhere that isn’t public. Personal accountability.
Sorry, but when you’re in public, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy, so you don’t have authority to tell people not to film the nudies in actions.
Respect us!.... as they force everyone to see them naked in public.
Give respect to earn it. Nobody wants to see these naked people. It's gross.
Maybe they need to respect the public first.
I understand it’s a tradition and all, but does decompressing bonding with peers have to be done by running bare naked? I’m sure this can also be done clothed. Whatever, y’all do y’all, but asking the public to not do public things in public spaces is honestly asking for a lot. If you guys are gonna arrange something publicly, don’t always expect everyone to cater to you. You’re choosing to run naked in public. Expect some cameras.
This entire post is gaslighting. Lol Behaving in a totally antisocial way (being naked in public) and then characterizing someone’s totally normal reaction to your antisocial behavior as antisocial.
Also don’t go to Berkeley, graduated college ~5 years ago.
I think it’s fair for you to make this request as a suggestion for appropriate conduct.
But to be honest, the instant you take your clothes off and start running you don’t have much sway over people. You’re choosing to do something extreme (a tradition, sure) so people will react in kind. Obviously something crazy like SA is not ever justifiable, but being filmed in public, being stared at - that’s all going to come with the territory. People **shouldn’t** but of course they will - I hope you want to run nude that bad.
Everyone whining in the comments drive or move somewhere else if non-sexual displays of the human form upset you or make you uncomfortable around your family. I grew up being exposed to non-sexual nudity in art, while swimming etc, and with hippy parents and guess what?? I am very well adjusted, do not see nudity or revealing outfits as sexual unless explicitly told so by environment or the nude person (like at a strip club or something). I do not ever make comments on anyone (including women’s) bodies if they are revealed partially or fully. I learned proper consent both giving and receiving even small things as hugs and handshakes at a young age. Nudity is NOT consent. It is NOT an invitation to make remarks or post forever images on the internet WITHOUT CONSENT. Seriously SF is one of the only major cities where public nudity is legal, and for good reason, it was and IS a safe haven for lgbtq+ people, “”liberated women”” and people who have freed their mind of the constant fear and social constructs. That is literally the legacy of the city and it is always disappointing but not surprising that people live here and idolise it while not even knowing, understanding or appreciating the history. The surrounding areas (Berkeley and Oakland, Marin and even some of south bay) has adopted a lot of these principles over time, for many reasons, (maybe seeing people enjoy life when they weren’t so insecure, self hating and critical of others’ joy) as well as the literal lgbtq+ people and hippies being priced out of the city. If these things disturb you why are you living here? And even if you have to live here for some reason, if you know the naked run or pride or whatever nudity is happening, do what many do and just avoid that area that day. Drive around it, it’s not that hard. Don’t visit the Castro with your kids then. Just let people live. I literally don’t even care if I get chewed out in the comments for this, people need to get a grip. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being in your natural state, especially while exercising and enjoying nature. It is not sexual, profanity etc. it is just a human body. I was not fucked up by this type of nudity or culture being exposed to it as a kid & it was in fact the religious clergy who messed me up, the very people calling the nude female form “profane” and built their empires on the basis of modesty and abstinence. To constantly sexualise the human body and then enforce that on everyone around you because seeing one titty offends you is wild. People just want to be happy and have the freedom to be (non-sexually) themselves in public.
TLDR; people existing in a non-sexual nude state in public will not mess up your kids or burn your eyes but! deep understandings of and teachings of consent and freedoms will set them up for success as well as help them feel less shame, more joy and less judgement. Also not knowing SF & the bay’s rich history you stomp all over with your crotchety comments is actually ironic at this point. Quit getting offended by seeing one butt and touch some grass.
Good to know how the cream of the crop Berkeley students feel about this. Same vibes as “she was asking for it bc she was wearing skimpy clothes”. Nakedness/lack of clothing is not an excuse to sexualize. This event has been happening for years. If you don’t consent to seeing naked people, leave???
Good to know you think illegal acts of streaking in a public space means the people in THE PUBLIC need to leave if they don't consent. What a fucked up take. Do you think it's a correct take for a woman to have to leave a public space if a man stripped down in front of her? There may have been no sexual intentions but is he in the right? Like use your fucking brain
Oop im not going to stoop as low as to insult your brain. I’d hope we could converse without being rude, @Heart_Hentai_Is_Nice :) and yes, a woman stripping down in front of a man is totally the same thing as actively going to mainstacks, having to show your Berkeley id, and entering the contained space of the run to see naked people. The people who go to see the run consent to seeing the people and the people running consent to being videotaped and seen. However, it’s poor taste to record to jerk off to later. That’s all. But your username tells me you know all about that.
Its still a thing? My peen was flopping through the stacks back in 2007. I was working at the library at the time. I called in sick to do the run and got fired 😂
If you dont want people to film then don't run around in a community space naked??? I personally did not consent to seeing nasty naked bodies but okay. I don't think we should have to implement policies to allow the naked run yall sound fucking crazy
“Don’t sexualize people without their consent” lol…. by that logic a guy can walk up to your family and whip out his dick and it’s your fault for sexualizing it. Learn some accountability.
Flashing someone is sexual assault, especially if they do it for themselves. But again nudity in of itself is not sexual.
It's entirely cultural from our pagan roots.
Same goes for the corpse run. I heard somebody say they could take photos of naked people carried around a bunch of dead nude bodies because they ain’t got no soul! That ain’t right and desecrated the spirit of the naked corpse fun run
I get that people who do this don't want to be on the internet. But this logic follows the whole "I'm out in public but don't consent to being filmed even though I have no expectation of privacy" fallacy. Sorry but these traditions just aren't really all that logical in the modern age. This comes from someone who partook in a similar tradition in college.
Unbelievable, how sensitive people are now. if I see a bunch of people running around naked, I’m going to take a picture and not think twice about it. The exhibition is great and so is the voyeurism. if your wang is flapping around in public I’m not worried about consent.
I randomly saw a video of the Naked Run on a porn site a few years ago. I clicked on the profile of the guy who posted it and was shocked to see he was someone I used to live with at the Euclid co-op.
No way dude had his government name on a porn site
He used the same nickname as his Facebook profile, Phil McCrackin
That’s awful.
You are so correct. I was in the library at the time studying unaware of the event to come. I was shocked and disgusted about the number of people videoing and making sexual remarks. It completely destroyed the purpose and spirit of the tradition. I thought people would have enough common sense and human decency to not record.
So, they can see it but not record it? It's in public. These people decided to get naked and let people see them in public. That's on them.
Yeah i agree, in public one doesn't have the expectation of privacy. Dont like it but still want to strip down for the cause, wear a face covering. Welcome to the world, there's cameras everywhere people. Act accordingly. Also get naked, it is really fun.
You could technically photograph and make rude comments at a woman breastfeeding in public, but most understand that is rude and in poor taste. This is the same. Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it’s not a shitty thing to do.
Not the same at all. A breastfeeding woman is trying to be discreet. The naked people WANT TO BE SEEN.
Lmfao 🤣
Not talking about general law and expectation while in public. Just pointing out that there should be a social expectation not to go out of your way to document the fun tradition as it may be damaging. It may be legal to do so, but you also may be an asshole for doing so.
I'm just not understanding their point. What are they being naked for? So people will see them. They want to be wild and free.... in a controlled way and only for a select few people to see. People who don't want to see them naked, but since it's public they just accept it. It's kind of rude to go around naked. These aren't models. These are eye-sores to look at. Being naked in public inherently says "we don't respect you" to everyone else.
What about the human decency of not running around naked in public?
Exactly. Where’s basic human decency and dignity? Why should others be forced to watch someone running around naked? Their right to run naked interferes with our right not to be assaulted by this sight. Despicable to see narrow minded folks push their extremist agendas on the rest of us, forcing their naked bodies and fetishes on others.
Congrats, I have no idea if you're being serious or not.
OP when to grave lengths to explain how this is not a fetish
Interesting how OP managed to speak for hundreds of people with their own narrow mindset of why people do this. For PLENTY of people attending this is a sexual thing and they’re there in part due to being horny. To think otherwise is to stick your head in the sand and be painfully ignorant. Doesn’t matter if OP believes in fantasy hippie land where nothing is sexual and we’re all here for bonding and human fun.
You don’t sound like you go to many orgies
I have been to every single orgy on the planet in the last two decades do not play with me
I sincerely apologize, I did not understand I was dealing with a sexual competitor
I was there by chance, and left impressed by how confident people can be. Most people were there because they were studying too but some just came to support. If you think it was solely bc of some horny teens... what does that say about you?
It is tho lmao
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I was referring to the fact of posting/sharing the videos unconsensual. No one is honing to stop you but it’s rude and weird. Yes they are naked in public so you have every right to. These people are consenting to everyone there to see them naked but not necessarily people on the internet etc.
As you pointed out, it’s in public. Permission is not required for recording anyone or anything in public.
Your right 😃
Do you also photograph women breastfeeding in public? Or do you understand that just because something is legal doesn’t mean it isn’t incredibly rude and creepy.
I don’t, but in public you have no expectation or right to privacy. If you do something in public, you don’t get to complain if someone takes a picture.
I can’t stop people from making jokes and filming but I can say it’s weird and disrespectful
What’s also weird and disrespectful is running around naked in public
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You seem fun.
Seriously, Anytime you are running naked in public you cannot expect someone NOT to post that. People post what their not ing latte looks like - it’s just how things are now.
That doesn’t mean it is right
But running naked in public isn’t right either though
Why does it feel so right then?
Then do it everyday. Go for it!
Gosh you seem fun. It’s a college tradition. Lighten up.
Posting vids of naked people running online is pervert degenerate tradition too! Lighten up! Just cause it’s tradition doesn’t make it right. Like I get that it’s fun in the moment but there will always be people who think it’s weird. If this wasn’t a college tradition if a group of random people came running naked down your street you would think it’s weird too.
What's the difference of public and internet? It's weird they only want people to see the naked in person and not on a screen. You have to be close enough to smell it? Don't get naked in public if u don't want to end up on the net. Simple stuff.
> Unfortunately, some people just don’t respect common sense, politeness and/or boundaries. 💀💀💀💀 Most ironic thing I've ever read
Respect me and family by not running around the street naked and then having the gall to say no filming while you are running in naked in public we live in a fucking clown world
Yup they’re running down the street naked (didn’t know Mainstacks was suddenly the street). Lighten up and have fun dude. Nothing wrong with being naked if people are consenting to viewing and participating.
Its literally not possible to have everyone consent, it's in public. Theres a reason why this is illegal
But it makes their imaginary friend mad! Those first 2 people thought a fruit looked yummy and ended up gaining knowledge, so now their imaginary friend wants us covered at all times! But genociding people he doesn't like is ok!
Yeah imagine how scarring it is for the children, to see the human body. Unthinkable
If a 70 year old man exposed himself to your kids he would be labeled a sexual predator. Do you think that’s wrong too?
Are you equating a group of people jogging naked with an individual targeting a young person with the exposure? It's not really the same. Nudity isn't crazy dude
How are they any different in action or in the child’s eyes?
Nothing wrong with taking photos and making jokes in a public space
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Yea fr this shit sounds like it was written by some hippie that believes in crystal healing and barefoot walking or some equally stupid nonsense. No, it is not asexual. No, you do not speak for everyone. No, it is not just about bonding and decompressing, that can be done clothed, there is zero link. No, the people in the library don’t consent. No, it is not devoid of people for whom this is a fetish, on both sides.
To be fair it’s definitely not arousing if Redditors are involved
This. Also, to piggyback on this post, anyone’s who’s coming to watch the naked run for sexual gratification will be sorely disappointed lol Can’t speak for others but I watch because it’s a school tradition and also bc I’m curious to see how many will actually participate.
If you carefully count them as they pass: flare checks out.
This post is doing more harm than good. Now, all the reddit freaks are going to show up with cameras. This showed up in my timeline, and I'm not a part of this sub.
If you don't want the possibility of being filmed, maybe don't become nude in public? Random thought, but you don't have a right to force your nudity on others. Everyone else does have the right to film in public spaces.
Hey, they wanted the attention so here it is.
I don’t even go to this school and like am I reading this correctly? People are doing a run naked and expecting not to be filmed, photographed or have sex jokes made? In public? What am I missing? Lmao
This is a tradition at many schools around the country. I even went to a school where this was done and partook it in. But I agree with the people who think that they should get special treatment because they want to get special treatment are delusional.
Obviously any form of SA would be wrong during this. But hoping that all this other stuff won’t happen in public is delusional.
Any in socal?
UCLA I know for sure
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Common decency is not having your dick out in a library.
but but its a book worm...
Why is this so funny 😂😂😂💀
Having the right and being right are two very different things.
If you're running around naked in public, you are never in the right.
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As a society, the filming of strangers in public spaces is completely out of hand.
Would you say the same thing if it was a maga guy screeching hate words in public?
You have no privacy in public if you wanna be naked without big brother stay inside educate yourselves because this is lower education at its finest
Exhibitionists complaining about voyeurism and consent… Yep that’s enough internet for me today! (Why is it always Berkeley?)
lol right. I’m all about consent but if you’re being an exhibitionists in a public space you can’t call for people not to film. Kids grow up
This is really common college tradition not unique to Berkeley
Soooo you can't bond with your peers and decompress without running through the street naked? Lol
*I WaNt tO bE A SpEctAclE iN PuBliC bUt nOt On ThE IntErWeBs*....?🤔
Do a naked run at a nude resort if you want people to respect the human body, otherwise you're asking for what ever bs people do aside from laying hands/hurting physically someone.
Fuck around and find out. Play clown games get clown prizes. You want to roll naked through the streets knowing every Tom Dick and Harry has a phone camera that’s on you boo.
I Agree. Lol
Not condoning the behavior but if you’re going to illegally do something like the naked run; you should expect people like that to come, it’s the nature of the event to attract perverts, this isn’t some sanctioned activity you get a ticket for with security, you’re living in a fairy tail world expecting people to respect the naked run, don’t participate if you can’t come to terms with the fact creepy people will watch and record naked coeds running around on campus at night , like what?
one can still strive to create a more consensual world despite the presence of non-consensual actions/norms. regardless, you’re invited to live in the fairy world with me (but only if you want to). 💜✨🧚
Consent is a hell of a funny word to be using in this context when the runners aren’t asking for the consent of people around before being nude. And if the argument is the people are consenting by being there, then the same goes for being filmed in a public space. To be clear, I support the right of people to do stuff like this, our nudity taboos are overblown. But O also support the right of people to film anything that happens in public and distribute it because that’s an important part of a free society. That’s how police are held responsible, etc. More importantly, it’s public space so people have a moral right to be able to record what they see. In a vacuum, I agree more with you that it would be nice if people didn’t record it and upload it. But it’s massively hypocritical to frame it the way you do.
You bring up a lot of valid and important points, and it’s not lost on me that there can certainly be more harm reduction + consensual practices on the part of the runners! Even though nudity is not inherently sexual, and the point of the run is not exhibitionism—exhibitionism being to derive sexual pleasure from exposing oneself/one’s sexual acts— as some have argued, it’s important to acknowledge that some people do have trauma related to nudity, often related to the strict taboos/connotations that we described in our posts. Here are some of my ideas to make it more consensual on behalf of the people in the library that are not participants: 1. Have an organizer/participant of the run announce that the run will include nudity and that nudity will be present, explicitly stating the floors where nudity will occur. 2. Designate a nude-free floor for people triggered/not consenting to see nude people, giving people time to relocate to that floor before the run starts. 3. Posting signs on entry ways of the floors said run goes through: “Nudity present on this floor from *start run time* to *end run time*” Consent is a two way street (or an infinite intersection, depending on how many beings are involved)— I appreciate you extending this dialogue beyond the runners!
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Do you know what it is? It is only in the UC Berkeley mainstack library, and a long-standing tradition since the 1970s, condoned by the university. While photography and filming is of course legal in public space the poster is asking politely to their fellow students to not. That is true that it breaks a few UC Berkeley rules, but it is one of those traditions that the school has condoned similar to senior pranks or other traditions that may break the rules, which are common at every university. Also you can’t really say public photography is moral lol it’s more amoral with consent and immoral without it.
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There are also library employees who have no choice but to be there because it is THEIR JOB. AND NO THEY DID NOT CONSENT TO SEEING THAT NASTY SHIT
Nudity is inherently sexual though. And not in some incel way, but in a very objective and grounded way. “Humans were naked before the invention of clothes” yep and what is the biological goal of any species? To reproduce and survive. The human body literally spent millions of years evolving to be sexually attractive to the perceived pluses of their partners. How do you think cave people reproduced??? Sat down in a fucking circle and discussed consent and personalities and how they like each other’s spirit? Lmfao no, they looked at the bodies they liked, got horny and fucked. The nude human body is THE MOST BASIC sexual concept known to us you absolute dunce.
There is no 'consent' regarding filming in public spaces, absolutely expect this sort of behavior from onlookers
Also no consent at all taken into account for people who don’t want to see naked runners
A more consensual world in which you force your nudity in front of non consenting members of your community? Or did I miss the day Berkeley became a nudist resort?
What a bizarre take. One can strive to not run around naked and respect cultural norms, and not play the victim
You mean a non-consensual action, like seeing people naked in public? You're in public, not everyone consented to seeing your naked bodies. Sure, it's tradition, but that tradition is throwing out the concern of getting consent from all parties already. If you want a more consensual world, this event should be in a designated area, where all people there are aware ahead of time and consenting. If that's not being done, you really can't claim the moral high ground on consent.
I haven’t personally participated in the Naked Run (love being naked, hate running and being filmed without being asked first) but that’s why I outlined the harm reduction steps above that participants and organizers can take since, as we agree, consent is important on behalf of everyone involved. The run already takes place in a designated area, so it’s completely feasible to improve transparency and informed consent through the means that I have described above. I appreciate you emphasizing this!
You’re literally right. Idk why people are fighting you. Consent is two way. People know the is event happens and go to see naked people, I take my clothes off and run so people can see my tits. I consent to being seen naked but not being posted on porn sites. Obviously it’s fine if it happens and I’m considering the worst case scenario and being ok w it, but I’d rather not be sexualized. Lack of clothing does not mean I’m ok w being sexualized! Interesting how this is easy to see if I wore booty shorts. Same principles if I’m naked. I’m curious to know how many people commenting against you have secretly been to the run to gawk anyways. They haven’t done some thinking about sexual norms and it shows.
Nicely rationalized. You stated your preferences and acceptance of risk. Well done. I forgot to add, enjoy your run.
Have fun
You can still encourage people to be decent.
Think you meant fairy-tale, but maybe it's a Freudian? 
The irony of this post is palpable. If you don’t want naked pictures of you on the internet, don’t run around outside naked in public. Respect peoples’ right to photograph people in public places.
It's their right, but it's creepy af
Why is it creepy to take pictures of weirdos doing weird shit and tell people about it?
I mean I think its also creepy af to run around in public naked illegaly just because it's "tradition". Sure filming is weird too but its ironic how the post condoning weird behavior is asking to stop weird behavior
Who runs? Students? TA's? Profs? Admin? I thought this was an american pie thing only? How do I run? When?
Jesus all the comments saying "too bad". So glad I went to school before tiktok
Being naked and in public implies consent. There is no expectation of privacy.
So many people commenting not knowing what the run is, and not bothering to look it up. It is only within the UC Berkeley mainstack library, and a long-standing tradition since the 1970s, condoned by the university. While photography and filming is of course legal in public space the poster is asking politely to their fellow students to not. So no, random strangers on the street are not going to be flashed by tons of naked students running around.
Oh I know about the run and I can understand saying "We kindly ask our fellow students to please not record anyone partaking in the run", rather they bring in words like "consent" and other bogus nonsense words in the context of a public space to try and add authority to their demands is wild to me. If you want to make demands like that; why don't they just ask the administration to secure all phones and other recording devices in the library and from participants during the event?
I’m a voyeur and have been there for 2 years now but I don’t show it and go around making gross statements I just go home and get off to it after it’s not unethical to sexualize memories we’re all adults here
wtf 😭
That not being a voyeur, that’s just being a pervert who whacks off to being a creeper 😂
Respect, honestly
Wow as an alumni from a school with a similar tradition, I can’t believe the responses here. “It’s not illegal to film in public spaces” Yeah, of course it’s not? Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t mean you should do it ad neauseam at the expense of others. People are trying to do something fun here, and you guys are fast tracking yourselves to a self-imposed police state.
Curious as to what is the law/policy on filming/pics in public spaces?
You can film whoever/whatever in public. People don’t see to realize that..it’s a very entertaining YouTube genera
Film here means video pics audio right
Lol is this just ripping off ucla’s undie run?
Nope ours came first
So the saneheads at ucla decided wearing underwear would avoid this whole debacle eh?
That’s what she said
Primal scream came before this.
I wanna run. When
Other way around
I agree. The nudity is not inherently sexual. It is our natural state of being.
Don’t run naked in public if you want privacy
I'm always, always, proud to be a bear. But every generation of Cal students after mine just keeps upping the bar on thoughtfulness, inclusiveness, respect and generosity. Thank you for that.
PLEASE stop sexualing my hot naked run through campus 😩🍆🍑
Just popping in to say you know there’s cameras on you and you run by them anyway. You are the reason it goes on the internet. Try running somewhere that isn’t public. Personal accountability.
Do something dumb in public, it's going on the internet. That's just how the world works now days.
Are you serious? Lol
Lol college kids
So what happens if you’re a guy and you see a really attractive person? Do people run with boners? lol
Seriously... You're running naked in public and expect privacy????
South park did an episode on something similar last season. I believe the episode is called "Global Privacy Tour."
When is it? I want to make sure I get a good seat so I can watch.
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Sorry, but when you’re in public, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy, so you don’t have authority to tell people not to film the nudies in actions.
Have you tried not being naked in public?
lmao.
Look up "reasonable expectation of privacy" laws in the local jurisdiction. OP may be right but probably isn't in their jurisdiction.
It's in public. Don't be naked in public if u don't want it in the net.
Respect us!.... as they force everyone to see them naked in public. Give respect to earn it. Nobody wants to see these naked people. It's gross. Maybe they need to respect the public first.
I understand it’s a tradition and all, but does decompressing bonding with peers have to be done by running bare naked? I’m sure this can also be done clothed. Whatever, y’all do y’all, but asking the public to not do public things in public spaces is honestly asking for a lot. If you guys are gonna arrange something publicly, don’t always expect everyone to cater to you. You’re choosing to run naked in public. Expect some cameras.
This entire post is gaslighting. Lol Behaving in a totally antisocial way (being naked in public) and then characterizing someone’s totally normal reaction to your antisocial behavior as antisocial.
This is literally exhibitionism by definition. Doesn’t have to be sexual, it’s irrelevant. Don’t show people your naked body without consent.
This post reminds me of the rectangular “approved graffiti area” sign
Oh my God, kids at Berkeley, pretending to be the victim yet again. Didn’t see that coming…
You’re in public running naked. You don’t have necessarily legal rights in that space. Maybe don’t run naked?
Also don’t go to Berkeley, graduated college ~5 years ago. I think it’s fair for you to make this request as a suggestion for appropriate conduct. But to be honest, the instant you take your clothes off and start running you don’t have much sway over people. You’re choosing to do something extreme (a tradition, sure) so people will react in kind. Obviously something crazy like SA is not ever justifiable, but being filmed in public, being stared at - that’s all going to come with the territory. People **shouldn’t** but of course they will - I hope you want to run nude that bad.
You wanna run around naked. You gonna get oogled and recorded. To expect different is dumb
Put em on the list. That's no tradition, it's an excuse. Wana be naked do it in your own privacy.
Everyone whining in the comments drive or move somewhere else if non-sexual displays of the human form upset you or make you uncomfortable around your family. I grew up being exposed to non-sexual nudity in art, while swimming etc, and with hippy parents and guess what?? I am very well adjusted, do not see nudity or revealing outfits as sexual unless explicitly told so by environment or the nude person (like at a strip club or something). I do not ever make comments on anyone (including women’s) bodies if they are revealed partially or fully. I learned proper consent both giving and receiving even small things as hugs and handshakes at a young age. Nudity is NOT consent. It is NOT an invitation to make remarks or post forever images on the internet WITHOUT CONSENT. Seriously SF is one of the only major cities where public nudity is legal, and for good reason, it was and IS a safe haven for lgbtq+ people, “”liberated women”” and people who have freed their mind of the constant fear and social constructs. That is literally the legacy of the city and it is always disappointing but not surprising that people live here and idolise it while not even knowing, understanding or appreciating the history. The surrounding areas (Berkeley and Oakland, Marin and even some of south bay) has adopted a lot of these principles over time, for many reasons, (maybe seeing people enjoy life when they weren’t so insecure, self hating and critical of others’ joy) as well as the literal lgbtq+ people and hippies being priced out of the city. If these things disturb you why are you living here? And even if you have to live here for some reason, if you know the naked run or pride or whatever nudity is happening, do what many do and just avoid that area that day. Drive around it, it’s not that hard. Don’t visit the Castro with your kids then. Just let people live. I literally don’t even care if I get chewed out in the comments for this, people need to get a grip. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being in your natural state, especially while exercising and enjoying nature. It is not sexual, profanity etc. it is just a human body. I was not fucked up by this type of nudity or culture being exposed to it as a kid & it was in fact the religious clergy who messed me up, the very people calling the nude female form “profane” and built their empires on the basis of modesty and abstinence. To constantly sexualise the human body and then enforce that on everyone around you because seeing one titty offends you is wild. People just want to be happy and have the freedom to be (non-sexually) themselves in public. TLDR; people existing in a non-sexual nude state in public will not mess up your kids or burn your eyes but! deep understandings of and teachings of consent and freedoms will set them up for success as well as help them feel less shame, more joy and less judgement. Also not knowing SF & the bay’s rich history you stomp all over with your crotchety comments is actually ironic at this point. Quit getting offended by seeing one butt and touch some grass.
Lmao
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Good to know how the cream of the crop Berkeley students feel about this. Same vibes as “she was asking for it bc she was wearing skimpy clothes”. Nakedness/lack of clothing is not an excuse to sexualize. This event has been happening for years. If you don’t consent to seeing naked people, leave???
Good to know you think illegal acts of streaking in a public space means the people in THE PUBLIC need to leave if they don't consent. What a fucked up take. Do you think it's a correct take for a woman to have to leave a public space if a man stripped down in front of her? There may have been no sexual intentions but is he in the right? Like use your fucking brain
Oop im not going to stoop as low as to insult your brain. I’d hope we could converse without being rude, @Heart_Hentai_Is_Nice :) and yes, a woman stripping down in front of a man is totally the same thing as actively going to mainstacks, having to show your Berkeley id, and entering the contained space of the run to see naked people. The people who go to see the run consent to seeing the people and the people running consent to being videotaped and seen. However, it’s poor taste to record to jerk off to later. That’s all. But your username tells me you know all about that.
Isn’t the whole point exhibitionism?
Heyyyyyy, here’s an idea: if you don’t want someone to film you running naked without your consent, maybe don’t run naked? Big brain time 🤯
Its still a thing? My peen was flopping through the stacks back in 2007. I was working at the library at the time. I called in sick to do the run and got fired 😂
lolol i think if they were worried about privacy they wouldn't run around with their clothes off
If you dont want people to film then don't run around in a community space naked??? I personally did not consent to seeing nasty naked bodies but okay. I don't think we should have to implement policies to allow the naked run yall sound fucking crazy
Yall are fucking stupid if you except to run around naked and have no one film.
Now I understand why non-west coast people think the West Coast is regarded.
You’re in public :)
“Consent is a two way street” —> Not if you are running around in public. This post is ridiculous. Don’t run naked if you don’t want to be seen naked.
Frfr
“Don’t sexualize people without their consent” lol…. by that logic a guy can walk up to your family and whip out his dick and it’s your fault for sexualizing it. Learn some accountability.
Nudity in of itself is not sexual.
I think a lot of people (women especially) would disagree with you and say indecent exposure is sexual assault.
Flashing someone is sexual assault, especially if they do it for themselves. But again nudity in of itself is not sexual. It's entirely cultural from our pagan roots.
Exactly! It’s cultural! In our culture(and in many others) nudity is viewed as sexual
It is, being naked when the norm isn’t makes it sexual because you are displaying your sexual organs, don’t start with that hippie bs.
No it is not un-consensual, you are giving your consent to be filmed by being in a public space. Possibly unkind? Yes. Un-consensual? No.
Well ima go out on a limb here but if you’d prefer not to be filmed naked then just don’t go out in public naked. It’s a very simple concept
Since indecent exposure is a Misdemeanor, what's stopping a crowd of people showing up and citizens arresting all participants?
Same goes for the corpse run. I heard somebody say they could take photos of naked people carried around a bunch of dead nude bodies because they ain’t got no soul! That ain’t right and desecrated the spirit of the naked corpse fun run
Corpse run? Tf this is all some sick sh!t indoctrinating wickedness
Oh please! There's a symbiotic relationship between the extroverts and the voyeurs.
Fuck off, you’re in public.
I get that people who do this don't want to be on the internet. But this logic follows the whole "I'm out in public but don't consent to being filmed even though I have no expectation of privacy" fallacy. Sorry but these traditions just aren't really all that logical in the modern age. This comes from someone who partook in a similar tradition in college.
😭 wtf “don’t just watch, join in” 😭😭😭 Why are people running naked? Why would I do that wtf 🤣😂
Unbelievable, how sensitive people are now. if I see a bunch of people running around naked, I’m going to take a picture and not think twice about it. The exhibition is great and so is the voyeurism. if your wang is flapping around in public I’m not worried about consent.