Essentially. Nolan has marketed it two ways. One is for people who like "Art House" culture and the nuances of watching it on film. The other is for people who just don't give a fuck and want to see the movie anyway to recoup the costs of using the format.
It depends whether you fall into the first sentence or the second one.
I'm in the don't give a fuck camp. Watched Mission Impossible on the smallest event screen possible (Noosa) and didn't feel like I missed out from not experiencing Imax. If imax was closer I'd probably consider it.
The maximum digital resolution is currently 4k, 1570 is claimed to be more like 16k
For the average Joe on the street, probs wouldn't notice it on a screen less than IMAX size anyway.
Wish I had known this before booking my ticket at Vmax. Would this also be the place to watch Dune Part 2 when it comes out? we really missed out watching that on IMAX :/
That cinema is generally the best in Brisbane with biggest screen, Dolby Atmos and recliners. However it has digital projection, and OP is explaining that Palace James St will be showing Oppenheimer on 70mm film.
70mm being higher in resolution is the main difference I believe. Normal cinemas is maximum 8k whereas 70mm is 12-13k. Imax 70mm is 18k. The film was edited with the 70mm aspect ratio in mind, so i guess you can think of the imax aspect ratio being a bonus rather than the norm for this film.
Most of the normal cinemas are just 2k ! I know it is shocking 2k is slightly bigger than 1080p. Good luck finding 4k cinema in Brisbane. It is crazy how cinemas went backwards with Digital. With 70mm film you get above 8k minimum.
I could see both of them being nominated for Oscars. Greta Gerwig has a 100% strike rate so far at Best Picture… 2 films nominated for Best Picture same as Nolan.
Barbie will be a very, very good chance to take out Academy Awards for Costume Design/Makeup + Hair. Only judging off previews but it looks to have really nailed the aesthetic.
Film snobs love it because it’s the only place that’ll show pretentious af films nobody has ever heard of from places like Romania etc
It’s a pretentious film nerd cinema. That’s why people hype it up. For the facilities themselves, they were good around 30 years ago.
I’m waiting a week for Oppenheimer to be on Titan at Newmarket. I’d much rather see it on vmax vs going to Palace
I prefer Newmarket for the parking and seating, but Palace has always had fantastic options imo. Barracks has better parking than James St but they generally show the same movies.
It's fine.
Barracks is newer but James St is still fine. Just like the Elizabeth is fine, or New Farm is fine, or Dendy is fine. They're all perfectly acceptable cinemas to go see a movie at.
None of the smaller chains do the big screen big sound stuff that Titan Luxe or Vmax offers, but as long as you go in with that understanding you'll have a good experience.
It's a shame there's no IMAX anymore in Brisbane (since 20 years?), but we do get the second best option which is true 70mm Film at Palace James St. I'll be at the special event sceening dressed as Ken (I'll be Oppenheimer for Barbie the night before).
From their website...
Our 1570 film projector was installed in 1998 when the theatre first opened to the public. In 2015 it was removed from the booth to make way for the brand new IMAX 4K twin Laser projection system, the first Laser projector ever installed in Australia and only the fifth IMAX Laser system in the world at that time.
Ownership of the 1570 system was retained, and it remained in storage in a ‘you never know’ nod to the future. Just two years later, negotiations with IMAX Corporation resulted in the reinstallation of the 1570 system in time for the release of Christopher Nolan’s WWII epic DUNKIRK (shot mainly on 1570 film) in July 2017.
IMAX Melbourne is now one of the few theatres in the world offering the best of both formats; two projection systems side by side in the booth.
https://imaxmelbourne.com.au/about_imax/imax-1570-film/
yes i’m thinking imma see the 70mm at james st. also idk if it’s a glitch or not, but for the thursday night 7pm (prime time i guess) the tickets are like 10 bucks more!! any other day, any other time they are their regular price so just keep that in mind (i can understand them doing it haha but wish they were more transparent)
Here is your answer. [https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/)
ahhh i see now. i didn’t see that page i just went straight to the tickets page. makes sense (as much sense as fine wine dining in a cinema with a movie about building the ultimate annihilator can make)
Thanks for the reply, that looks to be the general consensus, i've never watch a movie in film print or at palace cinemas so im curious to see how it goes
same i hadnt done either til i saw oppenheimer (never been to that end of fortitude either that much didn’t realise we had an area of the city that wanky and fancy). like that centre touristy part of noosa but more gentrified. also unrelated i was in the side a bit i reckon a bit closer to the centre would be the best in retrospect
I got the middle of the cinema 5 rows down from the front, not sure how big the screen is but slightly in front of centre seems to be a safe bet in most rooms. Slightly annoyed that its 7 seats across and not 8, meaning one of the seats wont be in the perfect middle 
I have Thursday off and have booked my ticket to the lunch-time session at James St. It's actually cheaper to see it there in 70mm than digitally at Event or Hoyts.
How was the movie? Any flickering of the film? Also if you remember, how was the audio? I cant find any information about the audio system and I cannot call the cinema as they wont pick up
Ehh... It's still the same film in Brisbane, its just that the screen will be smaller. There is nothing... special... about... medium... format... I shoot it all the time with one of my photography cameras.
The resolution will be exactly the same, just on a much larger screen, making the aspect ratio changes more obvious.
There are some people who have fuck all money at the moment, and then there are some people who seem to have enough money to fly all the way from NZ just to watch a movie...
Yay recession.
Nolan is essentially asking us to watch what is otherwise called 120format in photography. The resolution comes from using what is essentially 6x9 format, just run through an IMAX size motion picture film camera instead to deal with the actual size/bulk of a 690 film back giving 70mm, 15perf. The perf refers to the number of perforations (holes on the side of the film) while technically the same as 120format, when run through an IMAX camera it requires a different amount of perforations which gives it, its name as 70mm 15 perf. It's the same film as if you would grab a Fuji GW690 or something, just with a different requirement to load it into an IMAX camera and of course longer lengths of film, and using a different transport mechanism altogether, but the film is the same. A 15perf 70mm film requires a transport mechanism which will move film At 24fps, at 3.8 miles per hour across a film plate to create motion film. This is VS. a 690 film camera that changes the frame every time you click the shutter and advance the lever to the next frame.
Nolan is also asking us to stump up to watch it the traditional way, in a cinema, you might remember before everything went digital, instead of film 2.5k right around 2004(ish). If you're not old enough to remember what film actually looks like (including its imperfections such as scratches, dust, and the time stamps for changing the film/audio for the projectionist) and you want to see this in perhaps one of the last few opportunities to actually see it, and you're not a raging boomer, that thinks they know everything about everything, it might be a piece of history to see a film in a way that you never have seen it and may never see it again in your life. That experience in this case will be the equivalent of actually watching something other than a test demo screen in 8K equivalent resolution though, even with its imperfections on film.
Also, the projector doesn't change the resolution with analogue film, the resolution in film is baked into the film. A bigger screen just allows you to see more of it, and perhaps also more grain texture really when thrown up on such a large screen. I'm not talking about vomiting here either, but projector throw.
A standard sized cinema screen is still plenty big enough to see what is essentially the difference between 4K and 8K, especially if you choose a seat closer to the front, but in the middle somewhere near the sweet spot.
If you go to Melbourne you will have to sit further back not to be overwhelmed by the screen size.
This was good. Real good. Hit me in the feels. It had just enough anger at incompetence, anger at the devaluation of money in a corrupt dying empire, and practical information down to where to sit for best appreciation of the art.
I think I'm too dumb to understand this lmao.
Are you basically saying that Nolan wants us to see the film in the proper 70mm format, which would entail spending more money, but it doesn't even really change the viewing experience in the end? Like you'd be better off just seeing any version?
70mm film will give you a better viewing experience than 4K Vmax by far. Let me explain this to you, the nominal resolution potential of 70mm film is roughly about 8K. That's before figuring in Nolan in his wisdom mastered Oppenheimer in 4K overall, but you are still going to see the differences due to the higher quality projection with film.
The actual resolution of projectors in cinemas if you don't go down to Melbourne and see it in an IMAX theatre is 4K and that is fixed by the projector itself, it doesn't matter whether you see it on a VMAX screen or otherwise.
Regardless that it's film the image quality will be substantially better and if you don't believe me I will repost my post where I dropped these views from the projectionist down in Melbourne himself.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbahrWjtH4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbahrWjtH4)
70mm far exceeds what you would see in a digital 4K cinema.
Ahh okay thanks, I misinterpreted what you said before. I deffffinitely do want to see it the way it's INTENDED to be viewed. It's not something I've experienced before.
and nice video! super interesting
It explains a lot of what I already said in a more straight forward view. If you want to see a whole movie shot in a (nearly) dead format then the best two ways of seeing it are to either stump up the costs to fly down to Melbourne or see it at The Palace on James street if you don't want to fly down to Melbourne.
The 70mm projection from film is still going to be better than VMAX.
I’m flying to Melb. I don’t have a lot of money, but I’ve been saving for this since it was announced. I’m going to the 1570 and laser showings - each are different and neither is better than the other, but by far better than anything Brisbane has.
That is where you are out of luck, the actual film projection system is the same regardless, it's just since they took out the IMAX screens in South Bank there isn't a big enough screen in Brisbane to project on.
It's not a projector issue, it's a screen size issue. Digital is not the same, it's just different, in fact it's more of a processed state to get it to that point as it requires the transfer of it from film, onto digital as an intermediary during editing, and then back onto film where Nolan finished the master, and then onto digital again, to be projected on a digital projector. The actual intended master (copy) is the film.
It’s literally a different aspect ratio (1.43:1) for half the film? That’s what makes IMAX 1570/laser immersive - not necessarily the screen size/resolution. No other projectors are even capable of displaying that in digital cinemas.
He's just saying the Melbourne IMAX is the only one in the southern hemisphere actually showing the movie in 1570 (horizontal) - the ultimate intended version.
The 70mm in James St is 5 perf. And 2.2:1. I'll be seeing it there though as I don't have money.
Good luck getting pretty much any seat in melbourne IMAX in the next few weeks! Everything’s booked out for at least 5 days and then ‘premium’ remains booked out for a weeks!
It’s going to be a challenge to wait but given I live so close to the only place showing it 15p75mm in the southern hemisphere I probably should watch it there!
I stumbled across the Palace 70mm session by total accident. Booked for the Sunday. Was very disappointed with Reading Newmarket for giving Barbie all the Titan showings.
Was good, I noticed a bit of flickering in the bright areas of the frame but I’ve read that this is usually normal for 70mm projectors, or they just hadn’t perfected the setup. In terms of audio, it was perfect. Very loud and lots of seat rumble for the size of the cinema. The mix seemed much better than the showing I saw at Hoyts, dialogue was easier to hear. Must be that nice 6 track DTS audio that comes with 70mm Z
Awesome, thanks for the reply
Purchased tickets for Sunday and found out they are non-refundable, got scared when I read some reviews 
Did you let them know, sounds like a projection issue
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/15dofke/comment/ju3b56l/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/15fgtg2/comment/jud0zje/
That issue mostly came down to Banes voice in the Dark Knight Rises. It is perfectly intelligible, that is just a meme that has run away with itself because of that movie.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuetklFtDQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuetklFtDQ)
It's the meme that keeps on giving, and unfortunately, somewhat dented Nolan's reputation.
I saw Star Wars 7 there a few years back. Sound was really good in the middle further toward the back. Definitely be intending to see oppenheimer again at palace. Booked in for friday at dendy coorparoo as they're decent enough and i want to see barbie after lol.
The seats and sound are standard cinema stuff. I saw Dunkirk there in 70mm though, it was a good experience. Personally I’d recommend it, but I’ll be seeing Oppenheimer first in a cinema with Dolby Atmos and going again if I like it enough to watch it for a second time at Palace in 70mm
For anyone thinking you'll get the atmos experience with Oppenheimer, just know that Nolan doesn't mix in that format and sticks to 5.1. I don't believe he's changed his stance on atmos with Oppenheimer.
Nolan is one of the biggest trolls in cinema as a DP (Director of Photography). He was right though when he said 3D was a gimmick and he pretty much hasn't changed his stance on that position since. He's also right that projecting 8k on a screen regardless of its size is the most immersive experience.
At Palace? It was like $28 from memory but with their free movie club, it dropped it back to around $22.
Edit- found out that is special event pricing for the Thursday 7pm screening only
The argument is actually seeing real film grain projected on a screen. Also film goes BRRRRRRTTTT at 24fps.
Some people like film goes BRRRRTTT.
If you have never shot film or worked with film at any level that is probably why you do not understand.
You can like down votes all you like, it seems you've never seen film, or worked with film, nor do you want to see what is essentially a largely dead film format brought back to life in its truest possible sense... Then this is not the way (Ugandan Knuckles meme) for you to see the movie...
If film goes brrrrttt as you enter the theater and you having an actual projectionist at the back of the cinema in the projection room changing the rolls as your thing then seeing it on 70mm film is your thing.
# Unless you have worked with or in the film industry or done cinematography, even with 8mm or 16mm cameras the average person can afford:
# YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND!
Its like saying a Mercedes Sprinter Van is better than a Porsche 911. They are two completely different things that cannot be compared.
i've seen real film. but as i said it doesn't make it available in brisbane just by liking it. OP posed a question and i advised the best experience in brisbane. comparing it to a real film experience isn't relevant we don't have that option in brisbane
Umm from what I gather you are wrong, The Palace at James Street is showing it in 70mm 5 perf.
[https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/)
also
[https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-\[70mm\]/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-[70mm]/)
Why are some people getting pissy about us being excited for a movie. Nolan is an amazing filmaker and uses amazing cinematography and cameras for his movies. We are excited to see one of his movies in amazing quality in the cinemas in Australia. We don't have many options for quality cinema here especially in IMAX.
When something new and exciting comes out from something they love, they will obviously be excited for it and they have every right to be. Same with people who are excited for Oppenheimer.
Bro it's a marketing campaign. Youre just getting sucked into an advertising technique. The same as what happened with Avatar - the most forgettable movie ever.
Well yeah it's like a talking point manufactured by the company to spur engagement. It's a gimmick. It's kinda fun but it's also like... Just advertising and won't actually have a noticeable impact on the viewing experience for 99% of people.
The big giveaway is that the mega thread about this topic is sponsored by the company, which is why it's been in my feed for more than 1 day.
Some people were already going to watch the movie and would like to know where they can get the supposedly best viewing experience. For people in that camp who are from Brisbane this is useful info
What’s your point? You seem to agree that it’s a better product but because they are using that better product as an advertising point of differentiation it’s suddenly dumb to want to watch it in the way it was intended to be screened and the same way Nolan shoots most of his movies? Wow yeah. What a gotcha. Really nailed it.
I'm not saying it's a better product. Im saying it doesn't matter where you see it, and the purpose of these discussions is a way to sell more tickets and have people do free advertising for them, nothing more.
> I'm not saying it's a better product. Im saying it doesn't matter where you see it.
Oh right. I thought you were struggling to articulate your point. You’re just plain wrong then. Jog on.
It’s a pretty simple google to find out what is showing where
Constant topics on it are 100% cinemas posting here to drum up business for their theatres
This is a thread for people who want to see a movie that was filmed in a specific and rather unique format in a cinema that will present it in a form as close as possible to what the filmmaker intended. This is not a barbeneimer meme thread or whatever the fuck you think it is. Please try to keep up.
It’s also funny how people respond to “this is marketing shit” with “it’s how he shoots his movies”
Ever wonder why he likes to shoot them this way? I’m sure it’s to conform with cinema standards im sure
thats the point, why would you make it on this kind of film unless you just wanted to stand out? I think we can all agree what kind of ratio you use isn't going to make for better film so, in essence, the choice to use such an obtuse one for cinema goers to actually see is to try and get more people to see it in theatres - aka, marketing
>Nolan and IMAX definitely have a mutual benefit in this relationship. Very effective marketing and capitalism doing its thing, for better or worse.
that's all I was saying but no no no I'm just an idiot who doesn't know cinema lol
Yup, just so ridiculous, I mean these people must be getting paid to write this. The only thing I'm wondering about this film is how long until it's on Netflix.
Some of us actually prefer the cinema experience to just watching a movie at home on streaming. Especially if it’s a large-scale, big budget flick that deserves to be seen on the big screen. I was probably at the cinema like every week in June lol.
Oath. Netflix and streaming services compress your movies and shows so they look like shit and then they make you pay more just to watch it in a higher resolution like wtf. Oppenheimer will be beautiful when seen in the way it was meant to be and on the big screen. Nothing beats going to a cinema and watching a movie you are hyped on.
Its a pity South Bank got rid of its IMAX theatres and changed them all to VMAX and digital several years ago.
Is the difference just a matter of digital Vs. film?
Essentially. Nolan has marketed it two ways. One is for people who like "Art House" culture and the nuances of watching it on film. The other is for people who just don't give a fuck and want to see the movie anyway to recoup the costs of using the format. It depends whether you fall into the first sentence or the second one.
I'm in the don't give a fuck camp. Watched Mission Impossible on the smallest event screen possible (Noosa) and didn't feel like I missed out from not experiencing Imax. If imax was closer I'd probably consider it.
The maximum digital resolution is currently 4k, 1570 is claimed to be more like 16k For the average Joe on the street, probs wouldn't notice it on a screen less than IMAX size anyway.
Wish I had known this before booking my ticket at Vmax. Would this also be the place to watch Dune Part 2 when it comes out? we really missed out watching that on IMAX :/
Dune 2 will be on the Titan Luxe at Newmarket. Oppenheimer isn’t being shown there with Barbie taking the big screen.
Why is Titan Luxe the one to go to for Dune?
That cinema is generally the best in Brisbane with biggest screen, Dolby Atmos and recliners. However it has digital projection, and OP is explaining that Palace James St will be showing Oppenheimer on 70mm film.
What's so good about 70mm film though?
You’ll have to find out for yourself
70mm being higher in resolution is the main difference I believe. Normal cinemas is maximum 8k whereas 70mm is 12-13k. Imax 70mm is 18k. The film was edited with the 70mm aspect ratio in mind, so i guess you can think of the imax aspect ratio being a bonus rather than the norm for this film.
Most of the normal cinemas are just 2k ! I know it is shocking 2k is slightly bigger than 1080p. Good luck finding 4k cinema in Brisbane. It is crazy how cinemas went backwards with Digital. With 70mm film you get above 8k minimum.
Oppenheimers brisbane premiere is there Tuesday night in Titan Luxe. Strange they’d load it up for one showing.
It looks like they’re splitting the screen between Barbie and Oppenheimer from Wednesday 26th
Is this the movie where Barbie SPLITS her atom?? Cause I might just want to see THAT!
Strange decision… Oppenheimer likely to win Academy Awards, Barbie definitely won’t. Opp also had 8x as many views on youtube trailers etc.
I could see both of them being nominated for Oscars. Greta Gerwig has a 100% strike rate so far at Best Picture… 2 films nominated for Best Picture same as Nolan.
You make a good point. I’m just not seeing it, but time will tell!
Barbie will be a very, very good chance to take out Academy Awards for Costume Design/Makeup + Hair. Only judging off previews but it looks to have really nailed the aesthetic.
Don’t be too sad about it. Palace at James Street is a shithole.
Oh really? I heard people saying it was good?
Film snobs love it because it’s the only place that’ll show pretentious af films nobody has ever heard of from places like Romania etc It’s a pretentious film nerd cinema. That’s why people hype it up. For the facilities themselves, they were good around 30 years ago. I’m waiting a week for Oppenheimer to be on Titan at Newmarket. I’d much rather see it on vmax vs going to Palace
Do you like Russian tanks?
Seems I’ve hit a nerve with the film snobs
I prefer Newmarket for the parking and seating, but Palace has always had fantastic options imo. Barracks has better parking than James St but they generally show the same movies.
It's fine. Barracks is newer but James St is still fine. Just like the Elizabeth is fine, or New Farm is fine, or Dendy is fine. They're all perfectly acceptable cinemas to go see a movie at. None of the smaller chains do the big screen big sound stuff that Titan Luxe or Vmax offers, but as long as you go in with that understanding you'll have a good experience.
It's a shame there's no IMAX anymore in Brisbane (since 20 years?), but we do get the second best option which is true 70mm Film at Palace James St. I'll be at the special event sceening dressed as Ken (I'll be Oppenheimer for Barbie the night before).
Titan @ Reading Newmarket might be the best option then?
Nope! They've ditched pretty much all Titan Luxe times for Barbie! Inexcusable tbh
Oh whaaattt 😫🤦♂️
There's one show on 26th in Luxe at Newmarket. I strongly believe they'll allot more shows to Oppenheimer in Luxe from 27th.
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I think you're a bit confused yourself, the Melb IMAX has both laser and film projectors. The ultimate authentic real deal is NOT laser.
According to the official IMAX website it’s a IMAX laser theatre?
From their website... Our 1570 film projector was installed in 1998 when the theatre first opened to the public. In 2015 it was removed from the booth to make way for the brand new IMAX 4K twin Laser projection system, the first Laser projector ever installed in Australia and only the fifth IMAX Laser system in the world at that time. Ownership of the 1570 system was retained, and it remained in storage in a ‘you never know’ nod to the future. Just two years later, negotiations with IMAX Corporation resulted in the reinstallation of the 1570 system in time for the release of Christopher Nolan’s WWII epic DUNKIRK (shot mainly on 1570 film) in July 2017. IMAX Melbourne is now one of the few theatres in the world offering the best of both formats; two projection systems side by side in the booth. https://imaxmelbourne.com.au/about_imax/imax-1570-film/
The projectionist himself even says that 15 perf 70 has a higher resolition. [https://youtu.be/MDbahrWjtH4](https://youtu.be/MDbahrWjtH4)
yes i’m thinking imma see the 70mm at james st. also idk if it’s a glitch or not, but for the thursday night 7pm (prime time i guess) the tickets are like 10 bucks more!! any other day, any other time they are their regular price so just keep that in mind (i can understand them doing it haha but wish they were more transparent)
Here is your answer. [https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/)
ahhh i see now. i didn’t see that page i just went straight to the tickets page. makes sense (as much sense as fine wine dining in a cinema with a movie about building the ultimate annihilator can make)
Hedonism bot at its finest.
Hey, did you end up watching oppenheimer in 70mm at James Street? Curious to see how the audio was, ive also heard issues with the screen flickering.
audio was more than fine, for me it was jsut the flickering when there’s shots with a lot of white (but i think that’s common to all film really idk)
Thanks for the reply, that looks to be the general consensus, i've never watch a movie in film print or at palace cinemas so im curious to see how it goes
same i hadnt done either til i saw oppenheimer (never been to that end of fortitude either that much didn’t realise we had an area of the city that wanky and fancy). like that centre touristy part of noosa but more gentrified. also unrelated i was in the side a bit i reckon a bit closer to the centre would be the best in retrospect
I got the middle of the cinema 5 rows down from the front, not sure how big the screen is but slightly in front of centre seems to be a safe bet in most rooms. Slightly annoyed that its 7 seats across and not 8, meaning one of the seats wont be in the perfect middle 
I have Thursday off and have booked my ticket to the lunch-time session at James St. It's actually cheaper to see it there in 70mm than digitally at Event or Hoyts.
How was the movie? Any flickering of the film? Also if you remember, how was the audio? I cant find any information about the audio system and I cannot call the cinema as they wont pick up
Btw Imax Melbourne has both 70mm and digital sessions
Who is flying to Melbourne just to see a movie on a dead recording format other than hardcore cinematography buffs.
I know of people flying from NZ to Melbourne just to see it lol
Ehh... It's still the same film in Brisbane, its just that the screen will be smaller. There is nothing... special... about... medium... format... I shoot it all the time with one of my photography cameras. The resolution will be exactly the same, just on a much larger screen, making the aspect ratio changes more obvious. There are some people who have fuck all money at the moment, and then there are some people who seem to have enough money to fly all the way from NZ just to watch a movie... Yay recession. Nolan is essentially asking us to watch what is otherwise called 120format in photography. The resolution comes from using what is essentially 6x9 format, just run through an IMAX size motion picture film camera instead to deal with the actual size/bulk of a 690 film back giving 70mm, 15perf. The perf refers to the number of perforations (holes on the side of the film) while technically the same as 120format, when run through an IMAX camera it requires a different amount of perforations which gives it, its name as 70mm 15 perf. It's the same film as if you would grab a Fuji GW690 or something, just with a different requirement to load it into an IMAX camera and of course longer lengths of film, and using a different transport mechanism altogether, but the film is the same. A 15perf 70mm film requires a transport mechanism which will move film At 24fps, at 3.8 miles per hour across a film plate to create motion film. This is VS. a 690 film camera that changes the frame every time you click the shutter and advance the lever to the next frame. Nolan is also asking us to stump up to watch it the traditional way, in a cinema, you might remember before everything went digital, instead of film 2.5k right around 2004(ish). If you're not old enough to remember what film actually looks like (including its imperfections such as scratches, dust, and the time stamps for changing the film/audio for the projectionist) and you want to see this in perhaps one of the last few opportunities to actually see it, and you're not a raging boomer, that thinks they know everything about everything, it might be a piece of history to see a film in a way that you never have seen it and may never see it again in your life. That experience in this case will be the equivalent of actually watching something other than a test demo screen in 8K equivalent resolution though, even with its imperfections on film. Also, the projector doesn't change the resolution with analogue film, the resolution in film is baked into the film. A bigger screen just allows you to see more of it, and perhaps also more grain texture really when thrown up on such a large screen. I'm not talking about vomiting here either, but projector throw. A standard sized cinema screen is still plenty big enough to see what is essentially the difference between 4K and 8K, especially if you choose a seat closer to the front, but in the middle somewhere near the sweet spot. If you go to Melbourne you will have to sit further back not to be overwhelmed by the screen size.
This was good. Real good. Hit me in the feels. It had just enough anger at incompetence, anger at the devaluation of money in a corrupt dying empire, and practical information down to where to sit for best appreciation of the art.
You are welcome.
I think I'm too dumb to understand this lmao. Are you basically saying that Nolan wants us to see the film in the proper 70mm format, which would entail spending more money, but it doesn't even really change the viewing experience in the end? Like you'd be better off just seeing any version?
70mm film will give you a better viewing experience than 4K Vmax by far. Let me explain this to you, the nominal resolution potential of 70mm film is roughly about 8K. That's before figuring in Nolan in his wisdom mastered Oppenheimer in 4K overall, but you are still going to see the differences due to the higher quality projection with film. The actual resolution of projectors in cinemas if you don't go down to Melbourne and see it in an IMAX theatre is 4K and that is fixed by the projector itself, it doesn't matter whether you see it on a VMAX screen or otherwise. Regardless that it's film the image quality will be substantially better and if you don't believe me I will repost my post where I dropped these views from the projectionist down in Melbourne himself. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbahrWjtH4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbahrWjtH4) 70mm far exceeds what you would see in a digital 4K cinema.
Ahh okay thanks, I misinterpreted what you said before. I deffffinitely do want to see it the way it's INTENDED to be viewed. It's not something I've experienced before. and nice video! super interesting
It explains a lot of what I already said in a more straight forward view. If you want to see a whole movie shot in a (nearly) dead format then the best two ways of seeing it are to either stump up the costs to fly down to Melbourne or see it at The Palace on James street if you don't want to fly down to Melbourne. The 70mm projection from film is still going to be better than VMAX.
I'm so intrigued now. I didn't even know the James street cinema existed until this post. I'm definitely going to check it out
Most people don't know about The Palace. There is one at The Baracks also.
Why would people fly in from NZ when Auckland has a legit IMAX?
They do have IMAX but not one that screens 70mm film, only digital laser.
Ah, fair enough
Auckland IMAX is a lieMAX ! (Google LieMax if you never heard about it)
I’m flying to Melb. I don’t have a lot of money, but I’ve been saving for this since it was announced. I’m going to the 1570 and laser showings - each are different and neither is better than the other, but by far better than anything Brisbane has.
That is where you are out of luck, the actual film projection system is the same regardless, it's just since they took out the IMAX screens in South Bank there isn't a big enough screen in Brisbane to project on. It's not a projector issue, it's a screen size issue. Digital is not the same, it's just different, in fact it's more of a processed state to get it to that point as it requires the transfer of it from film, onto digital as an intermediary during editing, and then back onto film where Nolan finished the master, and then onto digital again, to be projected on a digital projector. The actual intended master (copy) is the film.
It’s literally a different aspect ratio (1.43:1) for half the film? That’s what makes IMAX 1570/laser immersive - not necessarily the screen size/resolution. No other projectors are even capable of displaying that in digital cinemas.
That aspect ratio doesn't change magically in the projector its baked into the film.
He's just saying the Melbourne IMAX is the only one in the southern hemisphere actually showing the movie in 1570 (horizontal) - the ultimate intended version. The 70mm in James St is 5 perf. And 2.2:1. I'll be seeing it there though as I don't have money.
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I didnt know we had a 70mm cinema in Brisbane, that's awesome.
Good luck getting pretty much any seat in melbourne IMAX in the next few weeks! Everything’s booked out for at least 5 days and then ‘premium’ remains booked out for a weeks! It’s going to be a challenge to wait but given I live so close to the only place showing it 15p75mm in the southern hemisphere I probably should watch it there!
I stumbled across the Palace 70mm session by total accident. Booked for the Sunday. Was very disappointed with Reading Newmarket for giving Barbie all the Titan showings.
Hey, how was the experience? Im not sure how the audio is, as they dont advertise it much. Hoping for dolby but not sure
Was good, I noticed a bit of flickering in the bright areas of the frame but I’ve read that this is usually normal for 70mm projectors, or they just hadn’t perfected the setup. In terms of audio, it was perfect. Very loud and lots of seat rumble for the size of the cinema. The mix seemed much better than the showing I saw at Hoyts, dialogue was easier to hear. Must be that nice 6 track DTS audio that comes with 70mm Z
Awesome, thanks for the reply Purchased tickets for Sunday and found out they are non-refundable, got scared when I read some reviews 
Went to the 70mm at Palace James St and I have to say it was nothing mindblowing, there was an annoying flicker on the bright areas of the frame
Did you let them know, sounds like a projection issue https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/15dofke/comment/ju3b56l/ https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/15fgtg2/comment/jud0zje/
How's the sound? I've heard that Nolan mixes his movies so that the dialogue is unintelligible except on imax
That issue mostly came down to Banes voice in the Dark Knight Rises. It is perfectly intelligible, that is just a meme that has run away with itself because of that movie. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuetklFtDQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuetklFtDQ) It's the meme that keeps on giving, and unfortunately, somewhat dented Nolan's reputation.
Ive never been to Palace cinemas, does anyone know how it is there other than the screen? Sound, seats etc
Palace are my favourite “franchise” cinemas. I find their stuff fairly well priced for a cinema and most of their cinemas are new and clean.
Hi. How is the lower seats in this Palace Cinema? Unfortunately there are only the lowest and the second lowest seats available on this weekend.
I saw Star Wars 7 there a few years back. Sound was really good in the middle further toward the back. Definitely be intending to see oppenheimer again at palace. Booked in for friday at dendy coorparoo as they're decent enough and i want to see barbie after lol.
The seats and sound are standard cinema stuff. I saw Dunkirk there in 70mm though, it was a good experience. Personally I’d recommend it, but I’ll be seeing Oppenheimer first in a cinema with Dolby Atmos and going again if I like it enough to watch it for a second time at Palace in 70mm
Hi. How is the lower seats in this Palace Cinema? Unfortunately there are only the lowest and the second lowest seats available on this weekend.
For anyone thinking you'll get the atmos experience with Oppenheimer, just know that Nolan doesn't mix in that format and sticks to 5.1. I don't believe he's changed his stance on atmos with Oppenheimer.
Nolan is one of the biggest trolls in cinema as a DP (Director of Photography). He was right though when he said 3D was a gimmick and he pretty much hasn't changed his stance on that position since. He's also right that projecting 8k on a screen regardless of its size is the most immersive experience.
Most atmos fans use soundbars and headphones anyway lol
Whats the cist for the ticket??
At Palace? It was like $28 from memory but with their free movie club, it dropped it back to around $22. Edit- found out that is special event pricing for the Thursday 7pm screening only
It's 15 bucks with their free membership
Legend. Thanks a lot for this
TitanLuxe in reading newmarket will be the best experience by far
It depends if you want to see the digital or the analogue version of film grain.
Dolby Atmos audio, super crisp visual and nice reclining seats ....best in brisbane. not much argument for another tbf
The argument is actually seeing real film grain projected on a screen. Also film goes BRRRRRRTTTT at 24fps. Some people like film goes BRRRRTTT. If you have never shot film or worked with film at any level that is probably why you do not understand.
u can like it all you want but it doesn't suddenly make it an option in brisbane.
You can like down votes all you like, it seems you've never seen film, or worked with film, nor do you want to see what is essentially a largely dead film format brought back to life in its truest possible sense... Then this is not the way (Ugandan Knuckles meme) for you to see the movie... If film goes brrrrttt as you enter the theater and you having an actual projectionist at the back of the cinema in the projection room changing the rolls as your thing then seeing it on 70mm film is your thing. # Unless you have worked with or in the film industry or done cinematography, even with 8mm or 16mm cameras the average person can afford: # YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND! Its like saying a Mercedes Sprinter Van is better than a Porsche 911. They are two completely different things that cannot be compared.
Dude, chill.
I think they're flirting.
They should watch the film, then get a room.
I think I want to toss my crayons out of the box after speaking to someone so stubborn about posting things they clearly do not understand.
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i've seen real film. but as i said it doesn't make it available in brisbane just by liking it. OP posed a question and i advised the best experience in brisbane. comparing it to a real film experience isn't relevant we don't have that option in brisbane
Umm from what I gather you are wrong, The Palace at James Street is showing it in 70mm 5 perf. [https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/events/oppenheimer-fine-wine-special-event/) also [https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-\[70mm\]/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-[70mm]/)
nothing on that link implies it's a film showing just a glass of wine with the screening. =/
Git gud. [https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-\[70mm\]/](https://www.palacecinemas.com.au/movies/oppenheimer-[70mm]/)
I stopped reading at y'all. Cringe as f.
This is a meme at this point right? It’s a fuckijg movie lol
Boo! people like & appreciate things that i dont understand and that makes me feel alone and afraid.
Why are some people getting pissy about us being excited for a movie. Nolan is an amazing filmaker and uses amazing cinematography and cameras for his movies. We are excited to see one of his movies in amazing quality in the cinemas in Australia. We don't have many options for quality cinema here especially in IMAX. When something new and exciting comes out from something they love, they will obviously be excited for it and they have every right to be. Same with people who are excited for Oppenheimer.
Just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t mean it’s not a thing.
Oh no I understand it lol Just hilarious the collective hype about a movie lol - it’s as if it’s a second coming
I mean it’s a Christopher Nolan film, the man has the Midas touch when it comes to directing movies.
Bro it's a marketing campaign. Youre just getting sucked into an advertising technique. The same as what happened with Avatar - the most forgettable movie ever.
It’s a marketing campaign to watch a movie in the cinema it was designed to be screened in? Ok.
Well yeah it's like a talking point manufactured by the company to spur engagement. It's a gimmick. It's kinda fun but it's also like... Just advertising and won't actually have a noticeable impact on the viewing experience for 99% of people. The big giveaway is that the mega thread about this topic is sponsored by the company, which is why it's been in my feed for more than 1 day.
Some people were already going to watch the movie and would like to know where they can get the supposedly best viewing experience. For people in that camp who are from Brisbane this is useful info
What’s your point? You seem to agree that it’s a better product but because they are using that better product as an advertising point of differentiation it’s suddenly dumb to want to watch it in the way it was intended to be screened and the same way Nolan shoots most of his movies? Wow yeah. What a gotcha. Really nailed it.
I'm not saying it's a better product. Im saying it doesn't matter where you see it, and the purpose of these discussions is a way to sell more tickets and have people do free advertising for them, nothing more.
> I'm not saying it's a better product. Im saying it doesn't matter where you see it. Oh right. I thought you were struggling to articulate your point. You’re just plain wrong then. Jog on.
It’s a pretty simple google to find out what is showing where Constant topics on it are 100% cinemas posting here to drum up business for their theatres
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
This is a thread for people who want to see a movie that was filmed in a specific and rather unique format in a cinema that will present it in a form as close as possible to what the filmmaker intended. This is not a barbeneimer meme thread or whatever the fuck you think it is. Please try to keep up.
the 11th thread today on a sub about brisbane not cinema - it's a very simple google to find what theatres are showing what where
Exactly. I swear 90% of these posts are paid marketing bullshit to try and hype this movie.
They are. I imagine local cinemas are trying to drum up ticket sails to make sure they get a return on their dumbass screens they bought
>ticket _sails_ Someone here is certainly a dumbass but I’m not sure it’s who you think it is.
Can I sail my yacht with ticket sails?
Congratulations, you made yourself into a meme. Enjoy your Russian tanks.
yawn
It’s also funny how people respond to “this is marketing shit” with “it’s how he shoots his movies” Ever wonder why he likes to shoot them this way? I’m sure it’s to conform with cinema standards im sure
cinema standards? there’s 1 imaxx theatre in the entire country lol
thats the point, why would you make it on this kind of film unless you just wanted to stand out? I think we can all agree what kind of ratio you use isn't going to make for better film so, in essence, the choice to use such an obtuse one for cinema goers to actually see is to try and get more people to see it in theatres - aka, marketing
obviously the director disagrees lol
Nolan and IMAX definitely have a mutual benefit in this relationship. Very effective marketing and capitalism doing its thing, for better or worse.
>Nolan and IMAX definitely have a mutual benefit in this relationship. Very effective marketing and capitalism doing its thing, for better or worse. that's all I was saying but no no no I'm just an idiot who doesn't know cinema lol
Yup, just so ridiculous, I mean these people must be getting paid to write this. The only thing I'm wondering about this film is how long until it's on Netflix.
Some of us actually prefer the cinema experience to just watching a movie at home on streaming. Especially if it’s a large-scale, big budget flick that deserves to be seen on the big screen. I was probably at the cinema like every week in June lol.
Oath. Netflix and streaming services compress your movies and shows so they look like shit and then they make you pay more just to watch it in a higher resolution like wtf. Oppenheimer will be beautiful when seen in the way it was meant to be and on the big screen. Nothing beats going to a cinema and watching a movie you are hyped on.
I wish I got paid to post this
Either you guys are making this shit up or I know nothing about movies. Isn’t it just better to see it on the biggest screen I can find?
Watch the YouTube link my guy! TIL
I like popcorn and choc tops.
Was booked for the 70mm 11:45 at Palace which was cancelled due to sound issues.