Urinal rule doesn’t apply once all the isolated spots are taken. Pissing next to someone needlessly is weird, waiting and watching people piss needlessly is a lot worse.
See I always knew the rule as:
- Urinal furthest from the door
- Urinal furthest from that urinal
- Middle urinals, as long as there would be a gap either side (this is why good deisgned bathrooms always have odd numbered urinals)
- Cubical
- If there are no urinal's with space either side and no cubical's are free. You wait, not for a urinal but for a cubical.
- If a urinal becomes free while waiting, you can't take it. You are committed to a cubical because obviously you only waited and ignored the urinal next to a person because you clearly needed a shit, so had to wait for a cubical. To then take the urinal would be to admit you only needed a piss and were to insacure to stand next to somebody when pissing. Which men aren't allowed to admit to, so you have to wait for the cubical even though you don't really need it.
It’s more like; don’t piss next to someone’s urinal if you can help it.
I’ve grabbed cubicals when I didn’t need to before, especially as my shell broke away, but it’s not actually a big deal.
No, no, no, you don't ever go for the extremes, you take the one SECOND furthest from the door, the one SECOND furthest from an occupied one, etc. Otherwise you seem like you're actively trying hard to avoid people, and therefore weird.
It is still good etiquette to know, though, if only to recognize That Guy who doesn’t follow the rules. The one who wants to talk to you while peeing. Everyone knows to keep a little space between themselves and That Guy.
They're not kidding. It's considered *strange* when someone speaks in a men's room other than a dad helping his child.
That's part of why there's rarely lines: guys do their business, wash up (ew only sometimes 🤢) and GTFO.
The number of times I witnessed middle age or older men poop and not wash their hands before leaving makes me wonder how many more do that. I did yell at one for "smearing shit on the door" as he reached for the handle. He got all flustered and asked him if he had a coprophilia, he went on about "building a natural immunity" to diseases. He tried to get me kicked out of that store but thankfully the staff sided with me.
What's even more frightening is the portion that "didn't need to wash" because they don't wipe their butt because they think touching your butt hole makes you gay. And no they don't wash it either.
New fear unlocked; stuck in an elevator with a cishet man with a case of septic tank ass.
Good thing the men I will ever date are either queer themselves or queer approving which will preclude them from being that kind of asshole (pun intended).
Yeah you also aren't allowed to look directly at each other. I started using the men's room pre-T because I realized everyone stares at the floor anyway
It’s for the best. I had the *worst* experience once, waiting in line behind three teens who were all freaking out about taking the middle of three urinals because “it’s gay though.”
Their running commentary and debate was neither welcomed nor productive.
I gave my bestie the rundown of urinal etiquette tonight:
> Why do guys do that?
Because they're insecure about being gay.
> That's so stupid. Who cares?
They're also insecure about being insecure about being gay. It's like they can't acknowledge the reality that they're two feet away from another guy's junk.
> That's absurd. Why do guys think like that?
I DON'T KNOW EITHER. I don't even want to be one!
Yes... it's crazy how much piss you find on the floor in public menns restroom, it's fucking gross.We must not forget that cis menn have magnificent aim and don't have a problem hitting bullseye in the toilet/urinal.
I feel like its the one off crackhead doing it though like it doesnt make sense where the pee is almost dried up
Its not like they missed
Its like they didnt even stand in the stalls and pee where you stand like it doesnt make any sense
Im willing to question if thats even pee or maybe someone with a mop was lazy
Yeah... most of the time it's someone who's intoxicated that pisses on the floor, but coming from a friend who works at a gas station, says a surpriseing amount of sober adult men pisses on the floor. Not directly at the floor, but enough to make a mess.
One dad was yelling at his kids to hurry up and banged on a ton of stall doors. Sometimes I wish I was a 7’ beast so I could give people shit without crying first cuz that’s scwry
Yeah im sure women have the same experience once in a blue moon
Although an altercation with a man only takes one punch to have broken bones.
Generally should avoid altercations with men. Doesnt matter how tall you are they are strong
And as with both sexes there are crazies
Society also conditions men to be more violent than women, in a complicated way.
I have no illusion how easily I can be hurt, first hit I’m on the ground and now I’m at their mercy. That’s why sometimes it be nice to be a 7’ (very strong) beast, where that wouldn’t be the case, then I could say my mind without relying on the asshole being ‘nice’ enough to get violent over it.
Just a lil power fantasy though, I’d never actually get strong enough to risk a fight over nothing, not when hidden weapons exist.
God no! Women talk to each other all the time! And it's stressful AF cause my voice is basically high oitched gay-guy cliche right now, so it feels amazing when I get engaged in conversation, but then awful when I go to reply.
Can't wait to figure out my voice so I can comfortably initiate conversation and not dread replying!
No, in the women's room someone will be doing her lipstick in mirror and a stranger will compliment the color. Two friends will chat about something and someone else will chime in, or chuckle. Someone will ask if anyone has an extra tampon and a woman will pull one from her purse.
Just think that its normal. Celebrate not needing to go to those gender neutral or women toilets. Your gonna be so excited to enter a mans toilet when you think about not having trouble going to the womens or gender neutral toilets anymore
Try it too sis. But be careful. My dysphoria got triggered while i was making it. Maybe it was just me. I learned to accept that my body isnt the same as my pfp. At least for now
If its a gym it can be pretty social
One dude guessed my weight while i was on a scale within 20lbs
For example
“Lemme guess, a buck fifty”
But otherwise its like a funeral
Find a place where the womens bathroom is closed for cleaning or out of service or whatever
Then chug as much water as you can
The need to pee will overpower, lol
Fr though, talking is a crime punishable by death in the mens bathroom, so don't worry about your voice
I'm not transmasc so I might be out of my element. But that said, I think the best thing to build confidence would just be to rip the band-aid off and do it. Don't think about, don't act or think like you're somewhere you're not supposed to be, just do it. Honestly especially if you pass, you'll be totally fine. Guys are oblivious and even if someone does notice, if you just carry yourself like you're naturally supposed to be there, (which you are cause you're a guy) that's what they'll go with. The guy nod is your best friend if you make eye contact with anyone and using it is the easiest way to integrate. You've got this. Go kick that bathroom's ass. 😁💪
Be battle ready. Bring full plate and a melee weapon (no guns allowed, too much infrastructure damage from missed shots). You’ll have to fight everyone one at a time tournament style, winner gets the cleanest toilet seat.
You put on your headphones, you start blasting something hard (I recommend Uzi), and you take the most rude shit of yo like. Also pro-tip dont wash your hands.
Dont wash hands lol what?
And sound is probably important
You read the room only by subtle sounds lol
If you start breathing audibly, people will judge you and everyone will focus on you 😂
You can do it, I believe in you!
I'll let you in on the unspoken rule
If using a urinal never use the one next to someone, leave a gap of 1 urinal.
If you are nervous about it I would recommend maybe going somewhere like a shopping center as early in the morning as you can when it isn't going to be busy, you can then go into the toilets, even if you don't need to use them, with minimal chance of someone being in there and then you'll soon get used to it
Try taking it slow and using the mens bathrooms when they're not busy, like at the less popular area of a mall or something. Then you can move your way up until you're able to go to the mens bathroom anytime.
I don't really pass rn so currently I only go in if there is absolutely no one there and god forbid someone does enter, I just stay in the stall until they leave.
The opposite could also be calming, the more people there are the less anyone can pay attention to you in particular. It depends on the person.
Although a crowded bathroom is ass so it’s not super applicable here.
Embody toxic masculinity and man up. /s big sarcasm. No what I would honestly recommend is take a deep breath and just head in. If physically you pass don’t worry most guys in men’s bathroom’s don’t really care we don’t talk besides small chat. If your voice doesn’t pass just try to be quiet. When using a stall use toilet paper on the seat because men stall’s can be very disgusting at times
Guys only care if they get labeled for something or if the woman is embarrassed for accidentally walking into the mens bathroom
But other than that guys dont care
They pretty much avoid acknowledging everyone elses existence and keeps as much space as possible at the urinals
Minding their own business is their goal
Hi, man here. Just walk in. You want to ooze confidence. Like the mighty tree falling towards the ground.
He dose not fear the crash. He expects it: for it bring his end a purpose greater then his living.
So like a mighty tree. Walk forward through the door of manhood and stand at that urinal slightly lower them pants lean forward in and let that one eyed momma maker rip.
DW about the voice. I can count on one hand the amount of words I have used in the men's toilets. For the most part nobody is going to care even if you don't pass
Dudes try to spend as little time as possible in public bathrooms, apparently skipping hand washing for expediency I guess 😖
Honestly bro? Just go for it. Guys generally just don't give a fuck. They don't talk to each other in restrooms.
No one is gonna say shit if you look like you belong there.
Remember, when in doubt you can always reference [the Urinal Game](https://archive.org/details/urinalgame) to make sure you're not making too big of a whoopsie! (Disclaimer: Urinal Game is for entertainment purposes only)
Just act casual and keep your head down. No one really talks to each other in the men’s bathroom, your business is your business. That is unless it’s some kind of r/JustGuysBeingDudes moment, which is pretty casual at that point.
If you need to, here’s how to get out in an emergency: just give them a tired look, dry your hands off, and leave without saying a word. That is, if they even notice you, 90% of talking is messing around whilst taking a crap, seeing the anonymity of the stalls.
Like, literally, it’s an unwritten rule that if you’re at the urinal, you don’t talk to other people (let alone look in their direction), unless you have like **great** rapport with them. Like it’s not exactly taboo…but it’s something weird you’d be *way too* confident to be comfortable with, y’know?
I know that’s not advice…but I hope it helps ease any worries you might have exaggerated; give you something of what to expect. Which is, if it’s serious, it’s like “don’t talk to anyone” serious…otherwise you’re gonna find a bunch of giggling bafoons messing around.
Don't talk, avoid eye contact, but also avoid looking down too close to the urinals, and you'll be fine. They probably won't even look at you. And they certainly won't notice unless you are *extraordinarily* feminine.
Think about it this way: cis het men are usually terrified of people thinking they are gay. Paying too much attention to other men in the men's room is seen as a risk to their fragile heterosexuality. This means their goal is to ignore you-- they are not trying to analyze your looks. And talking is strongly discouraged. So you can go in, avoid eye contact, say nothing, and it will seem normal. I even used the men's room pre T some and never had a problem
First, most guys don't pay much attention to who comes in or out of the bathroom. Second, no one will care if you urinate sitting down. Third, people almost certainly won't talk to you so your voice wont be a problem.
Source: I use mens bathrooms regularly.
Trans woman here. Usually no dude is gonna give a shit who is in the bathroom, they just wanna pee and leave. Just walk in, claim a stall, do what u gotta do, then leave. There is 0 conversation in them, cuz it’s weird asf, so don’t worry about your voice. Worst comes to worst just hit em with the head nod and exit.
The first few times for me was at my very queer art school or at the same time as friends or my brother. Just helps normalize the idea in your brain in a safer space or with someone to back you up and give you confidence. At some point it just starts to feel normal to go there, other comments are right, guys just don't care lol
You could try wearing a face mask when going in. Be pragmatic with it, in a sense. Get in, do what needs done, wash up, dry your hands, and get out. Most guys keep to themselves, and the bathroom is basically nothing but that. If people are talking in the bathroom, chances are they’re either already affiliated with each other or someone’s just trying to crack a joke to break the silence. In this case and you don’t feel comfortable talking, just use nonverbal communication such as a shrug, roll of the eyes, and so on. If they press you about being quiet, maybe tap your throat to signal that you either have a sore throat, are mute, or otherwise having trouble speaking at the moment. This should be enough to deter 95% of conversations, if they even get that far.
You can just go in dont worry about that. But do you really wanna enter that godforsaken place? Most men's bathroom are basically s toilet itself i hate going there. 0/5 stars whould not recommend
Please bring one of those things that let you pee standing.
Men's bathroom are one of the most disgusting places, and I'm tired of posts saying "I went and piss was everywhere".
Expect piss everywhere.
i will try to speak from my own experience since I recently started going to the mens bathroom. I mostly pass too well to walk into the womens bathroom and I now get scared or surprised looks when I enter it. since using the mens bathroom i learned:
just look down or at your phone when walking in. Men dont want eye contact in there anyway, especially when they're at the urinal.
Use bathroom stalls, u dont have to worry about a stand to pee malfunctioning or anything. its more chill and u can just take ur time without more interaction with other people in the bathroom- decreases the chances to speak if thats a worry for you. personally, my voice is not super high but also not cisman deep, since i mostly look like a teen boy anyway it doesnt really make a big difference for me when it comes to passing to strangers.
Biggest tip: try to use a mens bathroom which u now is not super populated. It helped push me over the edge and dare to go in. after a couple of times u get used just walking in and you're not nervous or scared anymore.
hope this helps
Step 1: you walk in
Now there are two possibilities that could happen
1: people don't pay any attention to you
2: people stare
If the first happens then you are all good to go
If the second one happens you ignore their stupid ass
Let's say the second one happens and someone approaches you and says something harmful
You should just ignore them also,
If they keep harassing you, you take out your foldable plastic lightsaber that you always keep on you and bonk them on the head
Just do it, I did it will public crossdressing, just don't talk to people and be on your way, if anyone says something you pull a new yorker mind your bis and keep moving
As a trans woman, cis women going in the men's because they can't be bothered waiting isn't that rare, in the UK at least. So as long as you're not in a rough pub, I wouldn't worry about bother, I'd worry more about the smell lol. Also cubicles are fewer in men's, so getting a clean one is often a challenge, good luck. Also guys don't go in groups, so it's harder to bring a friend. I hope this helps 💜
Not trans, but a man.
Most men don't care, and avoid talking in the bathroom anyway, so just go in there and do what you need to do with confidence and nobody will bat an eye.
I'd recommend forcing yourself to. of course it is not as easy as it sounds, but there is no other way. maybe it is easier if you see a long line at a womens restroom and then can justify it for yourself by doing it "out of convenience" either way I wish you the best of luck bro
Easy mode, cis women use the men's room all the time due to lines. Bars, concerts, sports, etc. It's not unusual to see women in the men's room. We don't care/are used to it. Not uncommon at all.
Hard mode, get a she wee and use the urinal.
Go in
Shit loudly
Wash your hands but don’t dry them on a towel , shake it
Go out
Édit :
Men don’t give a fuck of transDude, we are just shy to shit with a not intimate women in the room
It’s not like we are afraid to be rape by them
( yeah it’s sad but true ..)
Édit 2: don’t be afraid to put everyone in a good mood : say « hello little dick people ! Dady in’da’place! » when your in
Not gonna lie, i have no idea how to give advice here because the moment i realised I was trans I started using the woman's bathroom without batting an eye.
Hiss and walk funny like you're about to pee/poop yourself and barge into the nearest stall you're comfortable using. Bonus points for angrily fidgeting with the tp dispenser to make sure there is tp before use.
Good News! Most men avoid making any contact with other men in the mens room. That includes speaking or making eye contact of any kind. The only place this is deviated from is at work, but even then the majority do not want to interact at all in the restroom. Also all interactions with other men in the restroom are by law awkward for everyone, so if you feel awkward so does everyone else. Also just a heads up public mens rooms are basically literal cesspools, there will be urine on everything including the walls. My office restroom is cleaned about every other hour and I still regularly have to wipe the urine from the seat and floor before I can sit down without getting someones urine on myself or my clothing.
Just do it, bro! Act confident and like you belong, and nobody will question it. The key is confidence. If you act out of place, people might call you out on it. You are a man, so you have every right to be there with the rest of us.
Realize that nobody likes going in there, as the men's restroom is a hell scape of piss and poop covered toilet seats, and creepy apes who breathe too hard while pooping.
And 50/50 hand washing.
Cishet white man here! You just gotta freak that shit dog. Let ya nuts hang. Swing ya dick. You’re in charge. Those other guys in the bathroom? They’re your lil bitches. That’s how ya do it
I think the rules are just pretend like the other dudes don’t exist and go about your business. I don’t know since I avoid all the other dudes like it’s my job when I’m in the bathroom.
Silly thing, but here's a potential idea!, Pretend you're Def or something. Probably a stupid idea but if you pass as a guy, voice aside, you should be alright 🤗
As a guy who’s been using the men’s restroom since I came out, men don’t care, don’t talk, move confidently, do the nod if someone makes eye contact with you and just do your thing. Cis guys don’t care and if someone makes a scene just ignore them, no one is willing to cause a ruckus in the bathroom, also most people would probably go to your defence because they’re not psychos . Good luck my brother!
Try and find a buddy to go with. I know when I was scared to use the women's at Disneyland my partner just marched me on in there and the rest is history
You're super lucky. I used the Men's bathroom for almost 30 years and not once did I ever have to use my voice inside.
Unless the constipation was really bad 🤣
The way I got the confidence to go into the right bathroom was because I kept getting dirty looks when I went into the bathroom corresponding with my agab
Enter confidentrly in the toilet, if anyone tries to speak to you T-Pose hard.
Honestly if you pass but you are afraid about your voice, you can always play the "mute" option... point at your throat, make a "doesn't work" hand gesture and there you go!
As for actually using the toilet you can find confidence in knowing it's just a toilet, cis males (mostly) don't apply makeup, and this works in your advantage... most of them are just there to swoop in, wash their hands (I wish I did not have to add: "if they are civilized"), rush out and go on with their day.
If they saw through your mask most of them would just raise an eyebrow and go on: that -whatever task they were doing- won't do itself
Good news! It’s against the rules to speak in a men’s restroom so you’ll be fine.
Thanks! lol
Also do you know the urinal rule?
Exactly this. Do not use a urinal if someone else is also using one right next to it.
Unless you really have to go and there is no other option. Also, you always try to get the one furtest away from anyone else
Urinal rule doesn’t apply once all the isolated spots are taken. Pissing next to someone needlessly is weird, waiting and watching people piss needlessly is a lot worse.
See I always knew the rule as: - Urinal furthest from the door - Urinal furthest from that urinal - Middle urinals, as long as there would be a gap either side (this is why good deisgned bathrooms always have odd numbered urinals) - Cubical - If there are no urinal's with space either side and no cubical's are free. You wait, not for a urinal but for a cubical. - If a urinal becomes free while waiting, you can't take it. You are committed to a cubical because obviously you only waited and ignored the urinal next to a person because you clearly needed a shit, so had to wait for a cubical. To then take the urinal would be to admit you only needed a piss and were to insacure to stand next to somebody when pissing. Which men aren't allowed to admit to, so you have to wait for the cubical even though you don't really need it.
You over thought it, just pee in the floor drain or the sink
Your solution is sadly one that a frightening percentage of men will choose before they use a urinal directly between to other men.
This is the way
It’s more like; don’t piss next to someone’s urinal if you can help it. I’ve grabbed cubicals when I didn’t need to before, especially as my shell broke away, but it’s not actually a big deal.
No, no, no, you don't ever go for the extremes, you take the one SECOND furthest from the door, the one SECOND furthest from an occupied one, etc. Otherwise you seem like you're actively trying hard to avoid people, and therefore weird.
Yeah forgot that part. It has been a while since I needed that rule so kind of forgot
Except you know this person well. If it's with your close friend, you take the one next to him. Like homies
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most transmasc peeps prefer to use the stalls anyways
I was thinking the same thing, though probably still good to know the rough etiquette
this is a really funny thread lmao
Yeah I am too lazy to deal with stp's so I only use stalls.
It is still good etiquette to know, though, if only to recognize That Guy who doesn’t follow the rules. The one who wants to talk to you while peeing. Everyone knows to keep a little space between themselves and That Guy.
They're not kidding. It's considered *strange* when someone speaks in a men's room other than a dad helping his child. That's part of why there's rarely lines: guys do their business, wash up (ew only sometimes 🤢) and GTFO.
The number of times I witnessed middle age or older men poop and not wash their hands before leaving makes me wonder how many more do that. I did yell at one for "smearing shit on the door" as he reached for the handle. He got all flustered and asked him if he had a coprophilia, he went on about "building a natural immunity" to diseases. He tried to get me kicked out of that store but thankfully the staff sided with me.
What's even more frightening is the portion that "didn't need to wash" because they don't wipe their butt because they think touching your butt hole makes you gay. And no they don't wash it either.
New fear unlocked; stuck in an elevator with a cishet man with a case of septic tank ass. Good thing the men I will ever date are either queer themselves or queer approving which will preclude them from being that kind of asshole (pun intended).
Yeah you also aren't allowed to look directly at each other. I started using the men's room pre-T because I realized everyone stares at the floor anyway
It’s for the best. I had the *worst* experience once, waiting in line behind three teens who were all freaking out about taking the middle of three urinals because “it’s gay though.” Their running commentary and debate was neither welcomed nor productive.
I gave my bestie the rundown of urinal etiquette tonight: > Why do guys do that? Because they're insecure about being gay. > That's so stupid. Who cares? They're also insecure about being insecure about being gay. It's like they can't acknowledge the reality that they're two feet away from another guy's junk. > That's absurd. Why do guys think like that? I DON'T KNOW EITHER. I don't even want to be one!
The only bearable quality of men’s restrooms in my experience.
Yeah theres always that one goober that pees and spits gum in urinals and ruins the rest experience for the rest of us Mostly at gyms
Also there's always piss on the floor near the urinals usually.
Yeah what the heck are these people doing Theres just pee everywhere in some public bathrooms its crazy
Yes... it's crazy how much piss you find on the floor in public menns restroom, it's fucking gross.We must not forget that cis menn have magnificent aim and don't have a problem hitting bullseye in the toilet/urinal.
I feel like its the one off crackhead doing it though like it doesnt make sense where the pee is almost dried up Its not like they missed Its like they didnt even stand in the stalls and pee where you stand like it doesnt make any sense Im willing to question if thats even pee or maybe someone with a mop was lazy
Yeah... most of the time it's someone who's intoxicated that pisses on the floor, but coming from a friend who works at a gas station, says a surpriseing amount of sober adult men pisses on the floor. Not directly at the floor, but enough to make a mess.
One dad was yelling at his kids to hurry up and banged on a ton of stall doors. Sometimes I wish I was a 7’ beast so I could give people shit without crying first cuz that’s scwry
Yeah im sure women have the same experience once in a blue moon Although an altercation with a man only takes one punch to have broken bones. Generally should avoid altercations with men. Doesnt matter how tall you are they are strong And as with both sexes there are crazies
Society also conditions men to be more violent than women, in a complicated way. I have no illusion how easily I can be hurt, first hit I’m on the ground and now I’m at their mercy. That’s why sometimes it be nice to be a 7’ (very strong) beast, where that wouldn’t be the case, then I could say my mind without relying on the asshole being ‘nice’ enough to get violent over it. Just a lil power fantasy though, I’d never actually get strong enough to risk a fight over nothing, not when hidden weapons exist.
wait is that not against the "rules" in the womens ones? i thought you just don't talk in restrooms unless absolutely necessary.
When I went to do barbenheimer, a group of girls came into the restroom and loudly proclaimed they would do karaoke now.
God no! Women talk to each other all the time! And it's stressful AF cause my voice is basically high oitched gay-guy cliche right now, so it feels amazing when I get engaged in conversation, but then awful when I go to reply. Can't wait to figure out my voice so I can comfortably initiate conversation and not dread replying!
No, in the women's room someone will be doing her lipstick in mirror and a stranger will compliment the color. Two friends will chat about something and someone else will chime in, or chuckle. Someone will ask if anyone has an extra tampon and a woman will pull one from her purse.
If someone does, just don't respond and never make eye contact.
Just think that its normal. Celebrate not needing to go to those gender neutral or women toilets. Your gonna be so excited to enter a mans toilet when you think about not having trouble going to the womens or gender neutral toilets anymore
Thanks! Love your pfp, btw
Awww thanks sis
yeah i like it too! was it made on picrew?
Yesss
Try it too sis. But be careful. My dysphoria got triggered while i was making it. Maybe it was just me. I learned to accept that my body isnt the same as my pfp. At least for now
i've made multiple picrew pfps! its fun and doesnt make me jealous, which makes me happy. do u have the link?
Forgot alr sry. Someone else gave me before
thats ok!
start grunting soon as u walk in maybe even let out a shrill screech, nobody should bother u then
That's so real lmao
Remember that loud ass shit sounds are an ideal bathroom environment. It’s the Caesar principle, we all feel safe cuz everyone’s doing it.
I would donate some of my confidence, but I haven't any to begin with.
Aw, I hope you'll get some, also happy cake day!
I hope so too. And thanks, on both accounts.
Ayo, we have the same cake day!
Oh wow, we do! Happy Cake Day!
Thanks, you too!
Happy cake day to you too lol!
Beat on your chest before entering
That is hilarious and it sounds surprisingly practical too, thank you!
🤜🦍🤛
Dw the nost social interaction that happens in a mens bathroom is *the nod*. Remember down for someone you dont know and up for someone you do
If its a gym it can be pretty social One dude guessed my weight while i was on a scale within 20lbs For example “Lemme guess, a buck fifty” But otherwise its like a funeral
Don't talk/make eye contact and you'll be fine, just mind your own business
Find a place where the womens bathroom is closed for cleaning or out of service or whatever Then chug as much water as you can The need to pee will overpower, lol Fr though, talking is a crime punishable by death in the mens bathroom, so don't worry about your voice
I'm not transmasc so I might be out of my element. But that said, I think the best thing to build confidence would just be to rip the band-aid off and do it. Don't think about, don't act or think like you're somewhere you're not supposed to be, just do it. Honestly especially if you pass, you'll be totally fine. Guys are oblivious and even if someone does notice, if you just carry yourself like you're naturally supposed to be there, (which you are cause you're a guy) that's what they'll go with. The guy nod is your best friend if you make eye contact with anyone and using it is the easiest way to integrate. You've got this. Go kick that bathroom's ass. 😁💪
Be battle ready. Bring full plate and a melee weapon (no guns allowed, too much infrastructure damage from missed shots). You’ll have to fight everyone one at a time tournament style, winner gets the cleanest toilet seat.
Then you find out …. There are no clean toilet seats!
once i just accidentally walked into the girl's bathroom and now i just use the girl's bathroom every time im girlmoding lolol
I'd suggest going in with a friend
You put on your headphones, you start blasting something hard (I recommend Uzi), and you take the most rude shit of yo like. Also pro-tip dont wash your hands.
Uzi? Hard ? XD
Dont wash hands lol what? And sound is probably important You read the room only by subtle sounds lol If you start breathing audibly, people will judge you and everyone will focus on you 😂
Yup thats masculine insecurity right there
Not an insurity its quiet in there any significant noise including farts are going to be known by everyone in the bathroom Its a warning haha
You can do it, I believe in you! I'll let you in on the unspoken rule If using a urinal never use the one next to someone, leave a gap of 1 urinal. If you are nervous about it I would recommend maybe going somewhere like a shopping center as early in the morning as you can when it isn't going to be busy, you can then go into the toilets, even if you don't need to use them, with minimal chance of someone being in there and then you'll soon get used to it
Try taking it slow and using the mens bathrooms when they're not busy, like at the less popular area of a mall or something. Then you can move your way up until you're able to go to the mens bathroom anytime. I don't really pass rn so currently I only go in if there is absolutely no one there and god forbid someone does enter, I just stay in the stall until they leave.
The opposite could also be calming, the more people there are the less anyone can pay attention to you in particular. It depends on the person. Although a crowded bathroom is ass so it’s not super applicable here.
Especially a crowded mens bathroom. *The fucking stench.*
Start by going into the most abandoned men’s restrooms that you can find. Work your confidence up until you can go into a busy one
Just go for it. If you feel too uncomfortable, get a guy friend to go with you.
Embody toxic masculinity and man up. /s big sarcasm. No what I would honestly recommend is take a deep breath and just head in. If physically you pass don’t worry most guys in men’s bathroom’s don’t really care we don’t talk besides small chat. If your voice doesn’t pass just try to be quiet. When using a stall use toilet paper on the seat because men stall’s can be very disgusting at times
High vis vest. You can walk into anywhere with a high vis vest.
Guys only care if they get labeled for something or if the woman is embarrassed for accidentally walking into the mens bathroom But other than that guys dont care They pretty much avoid acknowledging everyone elses existence and keeps as much space as possible at the urinals Minding their own business is their goal
How loudly can you shit?
Hi, man here. Just walk in. You want to ooze confidence. Like the mighty tree falling towards the ground. He dose not fear the crash. He expects it: for it bring his end a purpose greater then his living. So like a mighty tree. Walk forward through the door of manhood and stand at that urinal slightly lower them pants lean forward in and let that one eyed momma maker rip.
Kick the door in and punch out the biggest guy in there
DW about the voice. I can count on one hand the amount of words I have used in the men's toilets. For the most part nobody is going to care even if you don't pass Dudes try to spend as little time as possible in public bathrooms, apparently skipping hand washing for expediency I guess 😖
Stuff toilet paper in your pants to simulate The Bulge™. Is it dumb? Yes. Will it work? Probably.
Much like smoking weed in public, you gotta be confident. Walk in, piss, walk out.
my advice: just walk in and dont be anxious, just act like you've been using it since you where a child and you'll be fine
If you talk to someone in there, you'll be looked at like a weirdo. Best strategy is walk in, find a cabin, sit down, do your business.
Honestly bro? Just go for it. Guys generally just don't give a fuck. They don't talk to each other in restrooms. No one is gonna say shit if you look like you belong there.
Remember, when in doubt you can always reference [the Urinal Game](https://archive.org/details/urinalgame) to make sure you're not making too big of a whoopsie! (Disclaimer: Urinal Game is for entertainment purposes only)
If it helps, I've met plenty dudes (supposedly cis) with oddly high-pitched voices, and nobody looked at them weird (-er than usual)
Just act casual and keep your head down. No one really talks to each other in the men’s bathroom, your business is your business. That is unless it’s some kind of r/JustGuysBeingDudes moment, which is pretty casual at that point. If you need to, here’s how to get out in an emergency: just give them a tired look, dry your hands off, and leave without saying a word. That is, if they even notice you, 90% of talking is messing around whilst taking a crap, seeing the anonymity of the stalls. Like, literally, it’s an unwritten rule that if you’re at the urinal, you don’t talk to other people (let alone look in their direction), unless you have like **great** rapport with them. Like it’s not exactly taboo…but it’s something weird you’d be *way too* confident to be comfortable with, y’know? I know that’s not advice…but I hope it helps ease any worries you might have exaggerated; give you something of what to expect. Which is, if it’s serious, it’s like “don’t talk to anyone” serious…otherwise you’re gonna find a bunch of giggling bafoons messing around.
Don't talk, avoid eye contact, but also avoid looking down too close to the urinals, and you'll be fine. They probably won't even look at you. And they certainly won't notice unless you are *extraordinarily* feminine.
The secret is no one will care or notice your existence in there
There's two types of people in the men's bathroom. Those who tell stories, and those that go Mmmmmhmmm. You can be the second one.
Think about it this way: cis het men are usually terrified of people thinking they are gay. Paying too much attention to other men in the men's room is seen as a risk to their fragile heterosexuality. This means their goal is to ignore you-- they are not trying to analyze your looks. And talking is strongly discouraged. So you can go in, avoid eye contact, say nothing, and it will seem normal. I even used the men's room pre T some and never had a problem
Always have a violent coughing fit, just act it out. For believability, have an unlit smoke in your mouth. Or just smoke.
who are you tryna talk to in the bathroom
First, most guys don't pay much attention to who comes in or out of the bathroom. Second, no one will care if you urinate sitting down. Third, people almost certainly won't talk to you so your voice wont be a problem. Source: I use mens bathrooms regularly.
Trans woman here. Usually no dude is gonna give a shit who is in the bathroom, they just wanna pee and leave. Just walk in, claim a stall, do what u gotta do, then leave. There is 0 conversation in them, cuz it’s weird asf, so don’t worry about your voice. Worst comes to worst just hit em with the head nod and exit.
Chad walk on in there bro you'll be fine. (Bonus points if you give someone The Rock eyebrow)
Watch that Shia LaBeouf video
Don’t talk. Just nod
Learn “sorry, I’m deaf” in sign language and you’re good to go
Well, your in luck. You don't have to speak at all, all you need is a quick nod to say hello
The first few times for me was at my very queer art school or at the same time as friends or my brother. Just helps normalize the idea in your brain in a safer space or with someone to back you up and give you confidence. At some point it just starts to feel normal to go there, other comments are right, guys just don't care lol
You could try wearing a face mask when going in. Be pragmatic with it, in a sense. Get in, do what needs done, wash up, dry your hands, and get out. Most guys keep to themselves, and the bathroom is basically nothing but that. If people are talking in the bathroom, chances are they’re either already affiliated with each other or someone’s just trying to crack a joke to break the silence. In this case and you don’t feel comfortable talking, just use nonverbal communication such as a shrug, roll of the eyes, and so on. If they press you about being quiet, maybe tap your throat to signal that you either have a sore throat, are mute, or otherwise having trouble speaking at the moment. This should be enough to deter 95% of conversations, if they even get that far.
Don't speak. Remember the Bathroom Code of conduct. Don't talk, at all, and respect the rules of the urinal.
You can just go in dont worry about that. But do you really wanna enter that godforsaken place? Most men's bathroom are basically s toilet itself i hate going there. 0/5 stars whould not recommend
Men do not talk in the men's room, you'll be fine.
Please bring one of those things that let you pee standing. Men's bathroom are one of the most disgusting places, and I'm tired of posts saying "I went and piss was everywhere". Expect piss everywhere.
If you see a guy and make eye contact, nod at them. Just a small one. It's the one secret guy communication technique we know of.
i will try to speak from my own experience since I recently started going to the mens bathroom. I mostly pass too well to walk into the womens bathroom and I now get scared or surprised looks when I enter it. since using the mens bathroom i learned: just look down or at your phone when walking in. Men dont want eye contact in there anyway, especially when they're at the urinal. Use bathroom stalls, u dont have to worry about a stand to pee malfunctioning or anything. its more chill and u can just take ur time without more interaction with other people in the bathroom- decreases the chances to speak if thats a worry for you. personally, my voice is not super high but also not cisman deep, since i mostly look like a teen boy anyway it doesnt really make a big difference for me when it comes to passing to strangers. Biggest tip: try to use a mens bathroom which u now is not super populated. It helped push me over the edge and dare to go in. after a couple of times u get used just walking in and you're not nervous or scared anymore. hope this helps
Step 1: you walk in Now there are two possibilities that could happen 1: people don't pay any attention to you 2: people stare If the first happens then you are all good to go If the second one happens you ignore their stupid ass Let's say the second one happens and someone approaches you and says something harmful You should just ignore them also, If they keep harassing you, you take out your foldable plastic lightsaber that you always keep on you and bonk them on the head
Just go in and don’t talk, nobody does that
Just do it, I did it will public crossdressing, just don't talk to people and be on your way, if anyone says something you pull a new yorker mind your bis and keep moving
Men don’t really talk in the men’s bathroom so you should be fine, also please let me out of your phone
As a trans woman, cis women going in the men's because they can't be bothered waiting isn't that rare, in the UK at least. So as long as you're not in a rough pub, I wouldn't worry about bother, I'd worry more about the smell lol. Also cubicles are fewer in men's, so getting a clean one is often a challenge, good luck. Also guys don't go in groups, so it's harder to bring a friend. I hope this helps 💜
Pfft. Nobody actually TALKS in the men's room.
Not trans, but a man. Most men don't care, and avoid talking in the bathroom anyway, so just go in there and do what you need to do with confidence and nobody will bat an eye.
I'd recommend forcing yourself to. of course it is not as easy as it sounds, but there is no other way. maybe it is easier if you see a long line at a womens restroom and then can justify it for yourself by doing it "out of convenience" either way I wish you the best of luck bro
Easy mode, cis women use the men's room all the time due to lines. Bars, concerts, sports, etc. It's not unusual to see women in the men's room. We don't care/are used to it. Not uncommon at all. Hard mode, get a she wee and use the urinal.
Just be a mime when u go to the bathroom
Go in Shit loudly Wash your hands but don’t dry them on a towel , shake it Go out Édit : Men don’t give a fuck of transDude, we are just shy to shit with a not intimate women in the room It’s not like we are afraid to be rape by them ( yeah it’s sad but true ..) Édit 2: don’t be afraid to put everyone in a good mood : say « hello little dick people ! Dady in’da’place! » when your in
Not gonna lie, i have no idea how to give advice here because the moment i realised I was trans I started using the woman's bathroom without batting an eye.
bring a gun
i’m going thru this rn too, lmk what they say!
Hiss and walk funny like you're about to pee/poop yourself and barge into the nearest stall you're comfortable using. Bonus points for angrily fidgeting with the tp dispenser to make sure there is tp before use.
Really just go there and do your thing, I've never seen a man looking in the eyes of an other man in the bathroom so barley anyone will notice you
for the first time or maybe the first couple times it might make it easier to go in with a guy you trust (friend/boyfriend/brother/whatever)
Good News! Most men avoid making any contact with other men in the mens room. That includes speaking or making eye contact of any kind. The only place this is deviated from is at work, but even then the majority do not want to interact at all in the restroom. Also all interactions with other men in the restroom are by law awkward for everyone, so if you feel awkward so does everyone else. Also just a heads up public mens rooms are basically literal cesspools, there will be urine on everything including the walls. My office restroom is cleaned about every other hour and I still regularly have to wipe the urine from the seat and floor before I can sit down without getting someones urine on myself or my clothing.
Just do it, bro! Act confident and like you belong, and nobody will question it. The key is confidence. If you act out of place, people might call you out on it. You are a man, so you have every right to be there with the rest of us.
Realize that nobody likes going in there, as the men's restroom is a hell scape of piss and poop covered toilet seats, and creepy apes who breathe too hard while pooping. And 50/50 hand washing.
Cishet white man here! You just gotta freak that shit dog. Let ya nuts hang. Swing ya dick. You’re in charge. Those other guys in the bathroom? They’re your lil bitches. That’s how ya do it
Being nervous to be in there is normal for cis men too
T pose to assert dominance then enjoy your pee.
I think the rules are just pretend like the other dudes don’t exist and go about your business. I don’t know since I avoid all the other dudes like it’s my job when I’m in the bathroom.
Silly thing, but here's a potential idea!, Pretend you're Def or something. Probably a stupid idea but if you pass as a guy, voice aside, you should be alright 🤗
As a guy who’s been using the men’s restroom since I came out, men don’t care, don’t talk, move confidently, do the nod if someone makes eye contact with you and just do your thing. Cis guys don’t care and if someone makes a scene just ignore them, no one is willing to cause a ruckus in the bathroom, also most people would probably go to your defence because they’re not psychos . Good luck my brother!
Just say f it we ball and go in
Try and find a buddy to go with. I know when I was scared to use the women's at Disneyland my partner just marched me on in there and the rest is history
You're super lucky. I used the Men's bathroom for almost 30 years and not once did I ever have to use my voice inside. Unless the constipation was really bad 🤣
Miss 90% of your piss, and youll blend right in
The way I got the confidence to go into the right bathroom was because I kept getting dirty looks when I went into the bathroom corresponding with my agab
If you must communicate use “the nod”
Do the needlessly gendered single person bathroom to build confidence
Just think "fuck it we ball" and enter
Enter confidentrly in the toilet, if anyone tries to speak to you T-Pose hard. Honestly if you pass but you are afraid about your voice, you can always play the "mute" option... point at your throat, make a "doesn't work" hand gesture and there you go! As for actually using the toilet you can find confidence in knowing it's just a toilet, cis males (mostly) don't apply makeup, and this works in your advantage... most of them are just there to swoop in, wash their hands (I wish I did not have to add: "if they are civilized"), rush out and go on with their day. If they saw through your mask most of them would just raise an eyebrow and go on: that -whatever task they were doing- won't do itself
Just do it, I'm being forced to use it as a girl, so you have more right to use it then I have (・｀ω´・)