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Is there a trick to it for larger pipe? In this instance, looks like you can get away doing the exact same kick 90 and just cut the pre-kicked side at different intervals to get the cascade.
All the pipe is pretty similar. In my eyes it's easier to match bends on a table bender or triple nickel. Looks like he bent the exact same stub, bent the kicks at the same distance from the back of the stub and then cut them all to fit into an even line of couplings going up the wall. Kind of hacky but the couplings can be cheated slightly on either end to level out the pipes and spacing, sometimes there is user error with the machines and you can be as much as 1/4" short with the stubs
That makes sense - I feel like planning it out without making those cuts going up the wall wouldn’t even be worth the trouble or labour cost as it still looks great too.
Yeah these aren’t matching these are called staggered kicks and they are all the exact same. To match them you have to increase the degree on each smaller kick. This still looks great and probably how I would do it because of the simplicity.
It's treaded rigid steel, not EMT, which makes this all the more impressive. I work with RGS and these 1-1/2" are HEAVY to work with. Largest I've done is 4", takes 2 people just to carry 1 stick.
aw shoot, my fault for not reading. So you bent rigid? I hardly ever touch rigid, I'd just assumed you bought the pre-formed 90s and 45s and whatnot with rigid.
You can get pre-bent pieces but a lot of the time I am using rigid steel for hazardous locations Underground, which we try to avoid sharp 90s if possible, we make them more of a gradual sweep. There is a special rigid Bender specifically for it, it's completely different from an EMT Bender. You can use an EMT Bender but they are hard on the heads and can damage them. If you look on the Bender it'll even say 1 in EMT or 3/4 rigid.
Do u just do the same kick 90 for each pipe and lob off the ends to have matching couplings like that? Or is it all one piece and you extend the length of your 90⁰ by your center to center value?
Could have saved a lot of time and just stuck all the cables in one soil stack. Would have looked millions times better than that London Underground system running up the building . Learn from the master son
You can get larger pipe but the more current carrying conductors you have in a conduit or raceway the more you have to de-rate when sizing your wires. So you may install less pipe on a rack. But now you need to upsize your conductors and copper isn’t cheap. It’s usually easier/cheaper to just add another smaller pipe to your rack. It becomes a budget balancing game of what’s more cost effective; fewer larger pipes with big conductors or more smaller pipes with smaller conductors. In my experience big conduits are a bitch to install plus take longer and are less forgiving and big conductors suck to pull.
No problem. Also there is a maximum for conductors in a raceway in Canada. CEC-12-910 max 200 conductors in a raceway which I’ve never seen anyone get close to that. But if there’s a rule you just know someone somewhere tried to do more than that so they had to make a rule 😂
Derating, after 6 current carrying conductors its like 50%. Bigger wire, more expensive, another step up in pipe size. Also pulling would be more of a pain because that need to be separated at some point and have uneven lengths.
You can fit more circuits in a larger pipe, even with derating. You’d save some ground wire too. Obviously there are a bunch of variables like wire size/emergency etc
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Nice work! Matching kick 90’s is underrated. Surprising how many can’t do it, keep that in your portfolio haha
Is there a trick to it for larger pipe? In this instance, looks like you can get away doing the exact same kick 90 and just cut the pre-kicked side at different intervals to get the cascade.
All the pipe is pretty similar. In my eyes it's easier to match bends on a table bender or triple nickel. Looks like he bent the exact same stub, bent the kicks at the same distance from the back of the stub and then cut them all to fit into an even line of couplings going up the wall. Kind of hacky but the couplings can be cheated slightly on either end to level out the pipes and spacing, sometimes there is user error with the machines and you can be as much as 1/4" short with the stubs
That makes sense - I feel like planning it out without making those cuts going up the wall wouldn’t even be worth the trouble or labour cost as it still looks great too.
Yeah these aren’t matching these are called staggered kicks and they are all the exact same. To match them you have to increase the degree on each smaller kick. This still looks great and probably how I would do it because of the simplicity.
Always wondered how yall spin this shit together. I’ve only done rigid in a trench so I could just spin it all together then drop it in.
Stub 90s, that’s how, they’re easy to spin on. If your doing a 90, make it stub
Spin the bends together first, then add straight sticks.
Same concept
work of art, nice.
I can see the product label on one of the conduits, should’ve been on the back out of sight. Pure garbage, worst install ever
Ew, you’re right. I bet he’s proud of this slop bucket too. Terrible.
Tell them to call you Murphy you drop kicks so hard.
It’s been more than four hours. I should probably call my doctor.
That looks really good, the couplings lining up and the perfect diagonal kicks look great.
pipe porn
I honestly don't think I've bent that amount of galvanized pipe in the last 18 years.
Nice rack!
That’s purty
Sexy
That makes me tingle. Like climbing the rope in gym class.
r/conduitporn is calling
Looks great 👍
Nothing like a little pipe porn.
Gawd damn that’s nice! I like the tools left and perfect ground conditions
True craftsman
I love unistrut
Immaculate, fantastic work bro
You just want to flex !
Its beautiful
how long did this take?
Beautiful work!
What are those couples? Is that a kind of watertight couple I haven't seen yet, or is my phone screen just bad?
It's treaded rigid steel, not EMT, which makes this all the more impressive. I work with RGS and these 1-1/2" are HEAVY to work with. Largest I've done is 4", takes 2 people just to carry 1 stick.
aw shoot, my fault for not reading. So you bent rigid? I hardly ever touch rigid, I'd just assumed you bought the pre-formed 90s and 45s and whatnot with rigid.
You can get pre-bent pieces but a lot of the time I am using rigid steel for hazardous locations Underground, which we try to avoid sharp 90s if possible, we make them more of a gradual sweep. There is a special rigid Bender specifically for it, it's completely different from an EMT Bender. You can use an EMT Bender but they are hard on the heads and can damage them. If you look on the Bender it'll even say 1 in EMT or 3/4 rigid.
Fucking, A. That's some quality posted pipe runs. Good job OP
That is some sexy pipe work. Well done.
Fucking epic. Rigid is tough to work with and heavy AF. You earned your money bro.
My god thats sexy
Looks great, but we run conduit, scummy plumbdumbs and fitters run pipe. LOL
I’m wet
I know a guy who will do it cheaper and it will look way worse.
You’re my hero
Yeah but let’s see your math
Do u just do the same kick 90 for each pipe and lob off the ends to have matching couplings like that? Or is it all one piece and you extend the length of your 90⁰ by your center to center value?
Thank you for your service 🫡
Looks good for rigid
Looks there’s a sticker left on the 6th pipe left to right honestly I wouldn’t have made that mistake
Im just kidding looks great 👍
I’m so turned on right now
This needs an nsfw tag..damn all rigid too
It's like art
Beautiful
Man I need to get back to bending pipe man, I haven’t messed with it in like a year and I’m terrified at how bad those first few bends are gonna be
Great work
It’s beautiful…
Could have saved a lot of time and just stuck all the cables in one soil stack. Would have looked millions times better than that London Underground system running up the building . Learn from the master son
Lookin snazzy there mate
That’s what I call EMT porn 🤪
Looks good, but when I see this I can’t help but think, why not run like 4-8 large pipes instead?
have you run pipes? plus i’m pretty sure there’s a maximum amount of circuits a pipe can hold
You can get larger pipe but the more current carrying conductors you have in a conduit or raceway the more you have to de-rate when sizing your wires. So you may install less pipe on a rack. But now you need to upsize your conductors and copper isn’t cheap. It’s usually easier/cheaper to just add another smaller pipe to your rack. It becomes a budget balancing game of what’s more cost effective; fewer larger pipes with big conductors or more smaller pipes with smaller conductors. In my experience big conduits are a bitch to install plus take longer and are less forgiving and big conductors suck to pull.
thanks for the lesson! i agree that’s why i asked if he’s run pipe lol, imagine if we put up 4-8 6” pipes instead.. no thank you
No problem. Also there is a maximum for conductors in a raceway in Canada. CEC-12-910 max 200 conductors in a raceway which I’ve never seen anyone get close to that. But if there’s a rule you just know someone somewhere tried to do more than that so they had to make a rule 😂
Yes lol, I do it for a living. I’m in the ibew. I even run a crew if you can believe it.
oh okay haha, well make them run 4-8 big pipes!
Then you know why it was done this way.
Derating, after 6 current carrying conductors its like 50%. Bigger wire, more expensive, another step up in pipe size. Also pulling would be more of a pain because that need to be separated at some point and have uneven lengths.
You can fit more circuits in a larger pipe, even with derating. You’d save some ground wire too. Obviously there are a bunch of variables like wire size/emergency etc
Outstanding....