Same as seeing motorcycle riders without gear. My town is on the way to Sturgis and has a week long bike rally. It's basically EMS Trauma Week. It's amazing the difference that quality leathers and a helmet make.
I work at the trauma center in that area and we actually rent extra EVDs over Sturgis because we get so many EVDs and ICP monitoring kits and drills for placing them. Surgeries shut down and we fill up with neuro trauma out the ass. ED and ICU go into mandatory overtime with call shifts to help cover all the trauma. We have literally run out of drills for ventricular drains and burr holes.
So is driving drunk, especially a motorcycle.
Call that still haunts me: 24 year old kid driving his motorcycle while drunk (his BAC ended up being like .16) going close to a hundred miles an hour. Smoked the ass end of a SUV which was going like 70.
Even with the helmet, he had a grade 3 DAI, bilateral SDH, SAH, IVH, a lesion in the splenium of his corpus callosum, broken C5/T3/L1. He also had bilateral broken humerus/scapulae/clavicles with narrowing of subclavian, broken R ribs 1/9/10 with pulmonary contusion, 4 broken bones in his right hand, bilateral tib/fib, six broken bones in his right foot, and a broken calcaneus.
Don’t drink and drive, and for damn sure don’t get on a motorcycle if you’ve been drinking, and don’t drive like a moron because your helmet only does so much.
Not haunting, more just cool EMS but I had a lady that was wearing full leathers/helmet and only had a leg injury. When we got her pants off (zipped thankfully, we try really hard not to cut leathers if we can), and the whole knee just splooshed over. Completely unstable fractured patella. The ghost of the NREMT past whispered in my ear "Unstable knee fractures are a true medical emergency". So, we gently splinted it with a pillow and tape then got to enjoy the EM docs face go from rolling his eyes to just saying "oh wow".
The guy who slid into the front of my car would have walked away if he had proper gear. I know it's nothing to what you guys see every day, but I thought his most visible wound was pretty gross. He lived, though.
I know who you who swears not wearing a seatbelt is what saved him in a wreck because he miraculously was thrown clear of the vehicle while his friend (also unrestrained) was crushed after being partially thrown.
Buddy.
"My brother-uncle-husband was in a car crash and the seatbelt broke his shoulder and left him super bruised! I'd never wear one."
Imagine if he hadn't been wearing one.
It's hugely normalized deviance.
It's cool to drink and drive. And if you get caught? Look at all those attorneys willing to help.
I'm a fairly staunch 'do what you want as long as it doesn't bother others' kind of guy.
But at least here in the states when people do willful risky things, there is still an expectation that 911 or some other mechanisms rescue them.
And that often puts others at risk, so the concept of do what you want isn't isolated to your self.
Out of all the accidents I've ran, I've only ever seen 1 time where wearing a seat belt *may* have been a factor in the occupants death. The guy took a curb way too fast and rolled his vehicle. He was a big-un, so when the car landed upside down, he sort of just dangled there. Unfortunately the engine compartment was on fire, and he was way too big to get out of the vehicle anyways even if the seat belt wasn't an issue. It took fire a while to get there because the closest ones were out on EMS calls, and even though cops and ems and passerby used like 9 extinguishers, he eventually succumbed to the smoke and fire.
Now, that being said, I've seen dozens, if not hundreds of people, walk away from wrecks that I was positive were going to be fatalities because they wore their seat belts. Seatbelts save lives.
I do agree with the premise that seatbelts are in fact life savers
However
Most people will lie and say they were wearing a seatbelt when they weren't. That might bring down the percentage of occupants belted
I wonder what percentage of those who were restrained were speeding. My most recent fatality was a restrained young woman who was driving so fast steering column said ‘fine, if you won’t come to me I will come to you’. Even the shittiest modern car with seatbelts at normal speeds is so safe compared to 20 years ago.
Physics is a thing. IIHS has a YouTube channel and they do a lot to educate the public about how even the best restraints may not save you in high-speed collisions.
Yup. Nothing new. The statistics are there, but no matter what you tell people they’ll always have an excuse as to why they’re not wearing one.
Same as seeing motorcycle riders without gear. My town is on the way to Sturgis and has a week long bike rally. It's basically EMS Trauma Week. It's amazing the difference that quality leathers and a helmet make.
I work at the trauma center in that area and we actually rent extra EVDs over Sturgis because we get so many EVDs and ICP monitoring kits and drills for placing them. Surgeries shut down and we fill up with neuro trauma out the ass. ED and ICU go into mandatory overtime with call shifts to help cover all the trauma. We have literally run out of drills for ventricular drains and burr holes.
So is driving drunk, especially a motorcycle. Call that still haunts me: 24 year old kid driving his motorcycle while drunk (his BAC ended up being like .16) going close to a hundred miles an hour. Smoked the ass end of a SUV which was going like 70. Even with the helmet, he had a grade 3 DAI, bilateral SDH, SAH, IVH, a lesion in the splenium of his corpus callosum, broken C5/T3/L1. He also had bilateral broken humerus/scapulae/clavicles with narrowing of subclavian, broken R ribs 1/9/10 with pulmonary contusion, 4 broken bones in his right hand, bilateral tib/fib, six broken bones in his right foot, and a broken calcaneus. Don’t drink and drive, and for damn sure don’t get on a motorcycle if you’ve been drinking, and don’t drive like a moron because your helmet only does so much.
Not haunting, more just cool EMS but I had a lady that was wearing full leathers/helmet and only had a leg injury. When we got her pants off (zipped thankfully, we try really hard not to cut leathers if we can), and the whole knee just splooshed over. Completely unstable fractured patella. The ghost of the NREMT past whispered in my ear "Unstable knee fractures are a true medical emergency". So, we gently splinted it with a pillow and tape then got to enjoy the EM docs face go from rolling his eyes to just saying "oh wow".
If I’m on my bike, one beer is the limit.
The guy who slid into the front of my car would have walked away if he had proper gear. I know it's nothing to what you guys see every day, but I thought his most visible wound was pretty gross. He lived, though.
Visible wounds ARE pretty gross. They just happen to be my kind of gross.
:)
Why do I need to wear one, I am not driving or inside a car right now? /s
I know who you who swears not wearing a seatbelt is what saved him in a wreck because he miraculously was thrown clear of the vehicle while his friend (also unrestrained) was crushed after being partially thrown. Buddy.
"My brother-uncle-husband was in a car crash and the seatbelt broke his shoulder and left him super bruised! I'd never wear one." Imagine if he hadn't been wearing one.
I love survivorship bias in real life!
I felt like I was in a wreck trying to read this first part of the sentence
It's hugely normalized deviance. It's cool to drink and drive. And if you get caught? Look at all those attorneys willing to help. I'm a fairly staunch 'do what you want as long as it doesn't bother others' kind of guy. But at least here in the states when people do willful risky things, there is still an expectation that 911 or some other mechanisms rescue them. And that often puts others at risk, so the concept of do what you want isn't isolated to your self.
Out of all the accidents I've ran, I've only ever seen 1 time where wearing a seat belt *may* have been a factor in the occupants death. The guy took a curb way too fast and rolled his vehicle. He was a big-un, so when the car landed upside down, he sort of just dangled there. Unfortunately the engine compartment was on fire, and he was way too big to get out of the vehicle anyways even if the seat belt wasn't an issue. It took fire a while to get there because the closest ones were out on EMS calls, and even though cops and ems and passerby used like 9 extinguishers, he eventually succumbed to the smoke and fire. Now, that being said, I've seen dozens, if not hundreds of people, walk away from wrecks that I was positive were going to be fatalities because they wore their seat belts. Seatbelts save lives.
I do agree with the premise that seatbelts are in fact life savers However Most people will lie and say they were wearing a seatbelt when they weren't. That might bring down the percentage of occupants belted
I wonder what percentage of those who were restrained were speeding. My most recent fatality was a restrained young woman who was driving so fast steering column said ‘fine, if you won’t come to me I will come to you’. Even the shittiest modern car with seatbelts at normal speeds is so safe compared to 20 years ago.
Found it in another page of the report. 29% involved excess speed.
Physics is a thing. IIHS has a YouTube channel and they do a lot to educate the public about how even the best restraints may not save you in high-speed collisions.