Fun fact... many years ago, Burger King came out with a new product. My friend asked me if I wanted to go with him and check out that new...
>**"CWASSANWICH"**
It took three gendarmes to pry my hands off his neck.
They are 2x time more likely to pick quantity ideas, and conquer a shit ton of rich with manpower dev provinces. Their missions give many free dev, Paris is rich in dev too, missions require you to develop stuff, and missions give free mil mana that basically is too much to not dev it.
Because of all that, French ai usually has a million or more troops when it comes to absolutism. And ai is prone to death stack as it doesn't account to after warfare attrition
Hope EU5 will be more multi-polar than EU4 because my biggest gripe with the game aside from trade is that France and the Ottomans will just start steamrolling everyone after a point unless the player goes out of their way to hamstring them every game
This happened to me a few times, like when i was playing florence and spain
The French and ottomans allying, sometimes both allying muscovy aswell so if you fight one of the 3 greatest powers you fight all 3, of course this only happens when you play right next to one of them and they always hate you when you actually play as France or vice versa, typical eu4 ai moment
To be fair they did that historically, although they limited their contribution because they didnt want an all-out war with the Habsburgs at the time, but they were nominally on the Protestants side as a combatant. It's still very annoying though having to fight the full might of Turbo-turk when you just want to settle the religion in the empire.
While I was playing as Mayla I watched the ottomans get steamrolled. I wasn't even anywhere near that part of the work so I had no influence, but I saw Ethiopia and Austria at war along with a third war with another country and they had no territory unoccupied. They had been forced to release some countries already in other wars.
Nah its just rivalries lottery. Had it happen to me that I could ally Spain, Poland and Ottos as France. Owned all of the english channel tn by 1500 and did a 1650 Roman Empire run.
>“Kill French before they become a problem”
Let me be ... frank ... with you. It was too late by the 5th Century. Those cats had been causing problems for almost a millennium by the time EU4 starts!
I had to restart my Portugal game over several times over because Castile would ally France at the start of the game leaving me with no ability to conquer the Iberia peninsula. Wave after wave of French troops would take my gains away. Even after I managed to get to firearms before they did I was still losing.
In these situations, rather than restarting, currying favors to break the alliance can also work. I don’t enjoy restarting games at the start bc it feels a little disingenuous but I definitely get where you’re coming from. In some games it’s necessary anyways
Probably unintentionally historically accurate. One of several reasons for France's rise as a potential Continental Hegemon and rivalry with Great Britain for the 1rst Great Power spot until Napoleon, was its unstoppable demographic machine. Ergo, a lot of population growth and bodies to throw into the economy or wars.
Historically accurate. If I lost a dollar for every time I've read of France just throwing endless men into constant wars with all their neighbors back to back, I'd be as broke as they were after the French and Indian War.
Me losing 500k men to attrition to take 4 Indian provinces as Austria (well some of those losses were probably HRE vassal swarm so I don’t think it really matters lol)
Apparently the AI actually would fight battles that it wouldn't win, just to avoid attrition for a time. They've fixed it a few patches ago, but momentary giga brain AI.
Attrition doesn’t tick if your troops are in a battle. Probably losing less troops in that battle than attrition would take if the battle happened over a month tick lol.
Hopefully we wont see this in eu5 since army is directly tied to population and even if they somehow raise 1 million thats %10 of their population, it would be cathastrophic to lose half of their working population
Fun fact: after the battle of Cannae, the Senate outlawed the word 'peace'. The Carthaginian envoy that showed up later had a devil of a time trying to make his pitch...
Historically yeah, but if you can directly influence population I imagine players will be able to get much larger populations than real life over that many years. Especially as france.
It could have some sort of cap. Likely based on technology level you're at. Or some kind famine could be introduced. If you can't feed 10mil pop, they start dying off. I'm just speculating, I have no clue how it will look in eu5
Probably capped due to food. Food has to be there for the pops or on the local market, that you will probably completely control at some point, so if you can’t build more farms then you will be stuck with your food and pops. I suspect tech will increase food output overtime and maybe even reduce consumption (less spoiled food), so you could get more pops. I think that Terrain and trade good will be way more important, so playing in some farmland areas will have huge benefits to your pop since (like north Egypt or England)
Pretty inspiring for me currently playing France (after 12 years) . So far I have the French mainland, seized Portugal's Caribbean colonies, and pummeled both England and Spain.
Pretty inspiring for me currently playing France (after 12 years) . So far I have the French mainland, seized Portugal's Caribbean colonies, and pummeled both England and Spain.
Who angered the french???
Fools and deadmen. *sharpens a baguette with ill intent*
Somebody who’s mispronounced Croissant 🥲
Fun fact... many years ago, Burger King came out with a new product. My friend asked me if I wanted to go with him and check out that new... >**"CWASSANWICH"** It took three gendarmes to pry my hands off his neck.
Exactly. It's pronounced "crescant".
I don’t even know how to pronounce this 😭
Ingerland
Who doesn't?
idk they already attack Spain 3 times, they hate Spanish ig lmao
iirc their country history sets them as historical rival
R5: currently biggest war in entire history of my gameplay (for now) happening in iberia
I just got back into playing after a bit of a break. I dunno what it is, but the french deathstacking is real. Up against like 800k troops in 1580.
They are 2x time more likely to pick quantity ideas, and conquer a shit ton of rich with manpower dev provinces. Their missions give many free dev, Paris is rich in dev too, missions require you to develop stuff, and missions give free mil mana that basically is too much to not dev it. Because of all that, French ai usually has a million or more troops when it comes to absolutism. And ai is prone to death stack as it doesn't account to after warfare attrition
“Kill French before they become a problem” - me anytime I play in western/Central Europe
Hope EU5 will be more multi-polar than EU4 because my biggest gripe with the game aside from trade is that France and the Ottomans will just start steamrolling everyone after a point unless the player goes out of their way to hamstring them every game
That's pretty accurate to the time period. The French and Ottomans were the major continental powers.
They also allied each other in the 1500s.
This happened to me a few times, like when i was playing florence and spain The French and ottomans allying, sometimes both allying muscovy aswell so if you fight one of the 3 greatest powers you fight all 3, of course this only happens when you play right next to one of them and they always hate you when you actually play as France or vice versa, typical eu4 ai moment
But do the Ottomans have to join the Protestant League? I have seen that too many times, brought in by France.
To be fair they did that historically, although they limited their contribution because they didnt want an all-out war with the Habsburgs at the time, but they were nominally on the Protestants side as a combatant. It's still very annoying though having to fight the full might of Turbo-turk when you just want to settle the religion in the empire.
While I was playing as Mayla I watched the ottomans get steamrolled. I wasn't even anywhere near that part of the work so I had no influence, but I saw Ethiopia and Austria at war along with a third war with another country and they had no territory unoccupied. They had been forced to release some countries already in other wars.
Nah its just rivalries lottery. Had it happen to me that I could ally Spain, Poland and Ottos as France. Owned all of the english channel tn by 1500 and did a 1650 Roman Empire run.
I play in the Mediterranean mostly, so this is me, but with Spain...
>“Kill French before they become a problem” Let me be ... frank ... with you. It was too late by the 5th Century. Those cats had been causing problems for almost a millennium by the time EU4 starts!
I had to restart my Portugal game over several times over because Castile would ally France at the start of the game leaving me with no ability to conquer the Iberia peninsula. Wave after wave of French troops would take my gains away. Even after I managed to get to firearms before they did I was still losing.
In these situations, rather than restarting, currying favors to break the alliance can also work. I don’t enjoy restarting games at the start bc it feels a little disingenuous but I definitely get where you’re coming from. In some games it’s necessary anyways
that is valid for all major powers
Probably unintentionally historically accurate. One of several reasons for France's rise as a potential Continental Hegemon and rivalry with Great Britain for the 1rst Great Power spot until Napoleon, was its unstoppable demographic machine. Ergo, a lot of population growth and bodies to throw into the economy or wars.
And alliance with ottos
Oh man, the next time I'm playing Oirat, I'm crossing the Pacific and Atlantic to raze the french
Levee En Masse was a thing for a reason
oh dang 800k in 1580, insane
Historically accurate. If I lost a dollar for every time I've read of France just throwing endless men into constant wars with all their neighbors back to back, I'd be as broke as they were after the French and Indian War.
France: Attrition isn't real it can't hurt you
Oh it’s real, it just doesn’t matter lol
Me losing 500k men to attrition to take 4 Indian provinces as Austria (well some of those losses were probably HRE vassal swarm so I don’t think it really matters lol)
c'est la vie!
As far as I remember the AI had some protection against attrition. So it doesn't matter to them
> So it doesn't matter to them they evaulate stacks individually. So 5 stacks of 20k just requires 20 supply, instead of 100k
The French word for attritional casualties is Châteaubriand.
No, it's "Pertes dues à l'attrition" /s
sounds tasty
-Victoria II AI while walking 60k hussars through the Sahara
Attrition doesn’t apply to ongoing battles
Apparently the AI actually would fight battles that it wouldn't win, just to avoid attrition for a time. They've fixed it a few patches ago, but momentary giga brain AI.
Attrition doesn’t tick if your troops are in a battle. Probably losing less troops in that battle than attrition would take if the battle happened over a month tick lol.
“You can not beat me. I spend 30,000 lives a month.”
France is using the Zapp Brannigan strat. Very effective.
The Meta: Manpower is just a number! Me: Sure, but that number appears to be zero. I want more armies, dammit!
Frankish tribe migration
*Song of Roland intensifies*
Ngl I thought this was a Dark Tower reference at first
>They see me Roland They hatin' Vasco army tryna catch me ridin' dirty
lmao
They’re migrating
Average Grande Armée moment.
Hopefully we wont see this in eu5 since army is directly tied to population and even if they somehow raise 1 million thats %10 of their population, it would be cathastrophic to lose half of their working population
Battle of cannae moment
Luckily France isn't Rome
Fun fact: after the battle of Cannae, the Senate outlawed the word 'peace'. The Carthaginian envoy that showed up later had a devil of a time trying to make his pitch...
It will probably happen in the end game (Napoleonic wars like)
Yeah thats fine and even then france has 40M population in 19th century so it wont get crazy like endgame eu4 where you throw 10 million at each other
If the game is more realistic, losing 1 million men with a population of 40 millions will still be dramatic (like it was in real life) Let's see
Historically yeah, but if you can directly influence population I imagine players will be able to get much larger populations than real life over that many years. Especially as france.
It could have some sort of cap. Likely based on technology level you're at. Or some kind famine could be introduced. If you can't feed 10mil pop, they start dying off. I'm just speculating, I have no clue how it will look in eu5
Probably capped due to food. Food has to be there for the pops or on the local market, that you will probably completely control at some point, so if you can’t build more farms then you will be stuck with your food and pops. I suspect tech will increase food output overtime and maybe even reduce consumption (less spoiled food), so you could get more pops. I think that Terrain and trade good will be way more important, so playing in some farmland areas will have huge benefits to your pop since (like north Egypt or England)
Hah. You can't stop Russia. I'm getting that 1 mil army one way or the other.
Man, now my rebel genocide have real consequences
Even more reason to spam mercinaries
Mercenaries are also tied to the population joham mentioned in comment but still its not your people who dies so its good
better send them to capture moscow
I'm going to be so bad at Eu5 it sounds like
You gotta show us a map cuz that’s insane
maybe i will sent it later :>
***War of the Spanish Succession Part 2: "This time it's personal"***
Give us the map ASAP cos that's mad....did the French colonise the whole of Asia and Africa or what?
we demand the map
France gonna France
Least overstacking AI.
He’s already dead!
Say it with me boys. LEEVE EN MASSE.
Soviet union in ww2 be like
Was wondering how the fuck 1.1k troops were beating 69k (nice) Then i spotted the m
What year is this wtf? How big is France!? How do they have an 1060 force limit?
England : exist France : we’re gonna need more men
They got the Levée en Masse
Now that is a big blue blob, never seen over a million soldiers in a single battle before. That is a sight I'd expect fighting Muscovy.
When you bring Victoria 3 numbers to your early modern gunpowder game.
Half the casualties are from logisticians ending it all
First time?
Absolutely love that title lmao same exact sentiment of basically everyone having to deal with France in the past four centuries
"You've activated my trap card: Human Wave Tactics!"
Tabarnak, that's a death stack (for the enemy and the men within the stack dying in Napoleonic Russia numbers)
I didn't even know it shows m
French elan is one of the most annoying and broken modifiers they have
Yeah that seems like a France thing to do 😂
They do start with alot of dev........
France mentioned 🤮
Pretty inspiring for me currently playing France (after 12 years)
Pretty inspiring for me currently playing France (after 12 years) . So far I have the French mainland, seized Portugal's Caribbean colonies, and pummeled both England and Spain.
Pretty inspiring for me currently playing France (after 12 years) . So far I have the French mainland, seized Portugal's Caribbean colonies, and pummeled both England and Spain.