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It's the little things, he runs a lot like Charlie Chaplin instead of Tom Cruise - not a sprint more of a high knee kind of comedy run. Also, Shanghai Noon and Knights were almost pure comedy compared to action comedy, some of the visual gags are much funnier than Jackie's other shows because they hammed it up so much. It's probably a lot closer to Buster Keaton and Chaplin
I never rewatched Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan’s adventures in part because EFAP (I miss Tony) was harsh on his American directed work. However, these scenes are great. Yes, cuts are generally shorter but they show a lot more in camera than I anticipated, gags and stunts aren’t all chopped up in sub-second cuts. Plus, there’s some classic environment usage and comedic moments that read well and match with the rest of the movie’s more American dialogue/blocking. Tony’s still correct though, put them next to each other and the Hong Kong stuff is clearly just firing on more cylinders.
The box surfing over the knife and henchmen who’s bounced off the roof are both perfect Jackie bits regardless.
Jackie complained about this.
In Hong Kong he would have had months to plan the choreography and practice and film. With his Hollywood movie, he would have had just days to figure out the choreography and film it.
It's still good for Hollywood but you can see the stark difference in cinematography. I also want to say that some of the sequences seem more hectic than smooth?
Yes the editing is very different. I think some of the stunt sequences in this clip if it were classic Jackie Chan would have been very obvious that it was filmed in one take (many attempts to perfect). In this clip it is Jackie Chan material but the editing does some of the heavy lifting which Jackie Chan movies of the 80s/90s would not have done.
And to think he was almost 50 when they made this.
Crazy that his famous American roles like the Rush Hour movies or this are not even his most insane stuff. Peak 80's Hong Kong Jackie Chan was a phenomenal once a generation talent.
His Hong Kong movies are absolutely fantastic! Still some of my all time favourite movies, and then you get to the credits and see all the stunts being done for real and people (including Jackie) being taken off in stretchers. Absolute madness, total dedication.
Did we ever get Jackie chan opposite Arnold?
That would be hilarious. Jackie occasionally fights really big guys and it's usually his normal punished don't do anything so he needs to macguiver some bigger weapon
I'd think with Arnold also being a great comic actor when he's not given too much dialogue would have been amazing
Technically, we did.
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6218010/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6218010/)
But it was during the later parts of their lives, and the movie was not that good.
Sold out his own son for a little weed too. Not his biggest fan.
I'm not the type to discredit someone's accomplishment because of this or that but man... he's making it hard. I'm not down with CCP... yeah you know me...
I saw a demonstration at a Karate tournament when I was little. The dojo put on this huge display with many students using the old school curled walking canes much like this umbrella fighting style based on hook swords. It was so inspiring to see something so improvisational used effectively as a defense weapon at a young age.
Also, just want to mention that this brilliant mfer will fight using a ladder every single chance he gets lol
Lol, as long as you understand that most martial arts are just that, an art first and a sport second but not actually a reasonable form of self defense.
I've seen this discussed on Reddit time and time again from people in the know and the consensus is that boxing, kick boxing, ie learning how to kick and punch as hard as you can are the only martial arts that actually will help you in a real fight.
Unfortunately an old school curled walking cane isn't going to do much against a guy twice your size who can just ignore whatever you're hitting him with and pummel you.
To a point, obviously the movies are not accurate, but martial arts do teach you about the body physically and give you a great understanding about how the world around you works. A trained martial artist can 100% take down that dude without even needing to get hit in a self defense situation. Your brain is much more powerful than any muscle you can build. To be fair, the stick is better than nothing. A way to make the gap in strength much smaller by reducing the other dudes effective range, and weapons are always going to make an unarmed dude think twice about pummeling anyone.
While I love Jackie Chan and his work, it's rarely appreciated that those who work with him, and his choreography, are as part of the reason he's so good at what he does. No move is amazing without the selling of it.
I remember thinking this was subpart at the time compared to his other stuff but watching it now is so good (I like John Wick movies but I would love someone else to continue this kind of light hearted action comedies )
I'd really love a merged Rush Hour, Shanghai Noon movie to end both series. Modern times Tucker and Chan connect with Wilson playing an anthropologist or something to help take down a criminal org smuggling antiquities, in olden times, Wilson and Chan are travelling from England to China and along with the way meet up with Tucker playing a silk merchant or something. Have some artifact or evil dude bloodline as a connecting point of the two settings. Cut back and forth and ensue zaniness. End the movie on modern times after they take down the crime ring, and the three are sorting through some of the stuff that was smuggled and they come across photos of their 'past' friendship
Meh. Absolutely love Jackie, but pretty much everything here was done before and better is his Hong Kong ear work. It's still \*good\* mind you, just plays second fiddle to the stuff where he had control of the full process.
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The bit with the guy thinking about grabbing the knife under the box is fucking great.
Makes me think he would have been a great skateboarder
He does some stunts on a skateboard in one of his Hong Kong movies
Jackie Chan as always making the difference in what is comedy combined with good choreography.
The Singing in the Rain music was a nice touch and reference to good choreography.
It's the little things, he runs a lot like Charlie Chaplin instead of Tom Cruise - not a sprint more of a high knee kind of comedy run. Also, Shanghai Noon and Knights were almost pure comedy compared to action comedy, some of the visual gags are much funnier than Jackie's other shows because they hammed it up so much. It's probably a lot closer to Buster Keaton and Chaplin
How could he run like Charlie Chaplin when Charlie Chaplin was busy running away from Owen Wilson?
Hopping on top comment to recommend Every Frame a Painting's amazing video essay on [Jackie Chan](https://youtu.be/Z1PCtIaM_GQ?si=iBhv2YHi2RX6npcC)
I never rewatched Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan’s adventures in part because EFAP (I miss Tony) was harsh on his American directed work. However, these scenes are great. Yes, cuts are generally shorter but they show a lot more in camera than I anticipated, gags and stunts aren’t all chopped up in sub-second cuts. Plus, there’s some classic environment usage and comedic moments that read well and match with the rest of the movie’s more American dialogue/blocking. Tony’s still correct though, put them next to each other and the Hong Kong stuff is clearly just firing on more cylinders. The box surfing over the knife and henchmen who’s bounced off the roof are both perfect Jackie bits regardless.
Jackie complained about this. In Hong Kong he would have had months to plan the choreography and practice and film. With his Hollywood movie, he would have had just days to figure out the choreography and film it.
It's still good for Hollywood but you can see the stark difference in cinematography. I also want to say that some of the sequences seem more hectic than smooth?
Yes the editing is very different. I think some of the stunt sequences in this clip if it were classic Jackie Chan would have been very obvious that it was filmed in one take (many attempts to perfect). In this clip it is Jackie Chan material but the editing does some of the heavy lifting which Jackie Chan movies of the 80s/90s would not have done.
that's def an editing problem.
When he says stop and gets punched again, probably an accident but rolled with it
Nah that's a common gag Jackie uses in a lot of films. Sometimes it's him getting an extra hit in and sometimes it's him getting hit again.
I get deadlines and shit but you’d think they’d give someone of the caliber of Jackie more time
In Hong Kong this would have been a continuous take lol.
I only found it out recently that the little boy in this movie is a young Aaron Taylor-Johnson!
Weren’t expecting that, were you?
It was love at first sight for his wife
Underrated comment
wow
Oh hey Owen
And in just 3 years, he’ll be the age that his wife was when this movie came out.
Totally didn’t recognize him from Bullet Train! /s
The moment he looked at Jackie's fight from the box, he really looked like another actress. I cannot get my head around it to remember who it was..
That look reminded me of El from *Stranger Things*. I was going to look that up, but then I found these comments.
Shanghai Noon and Knights are 2 super under appreciated movies imo. I’ve seen both several times
I consider Around The World In 80 Days (2004) the third unofficial addition to this series making it a full trilogy
I loved all of these movies as a kid and completely agree. I also as the unofficial trilogy concept on Reddit and now do that all the time lmao
Owen Wilson taking physical damage from seeing those teeth like a vampire in the sun
In the movie: that boy grew up to become Charlie Chaplin In real life: that boy grew up to become Aaron Taylor Johnson
And to think he was almost 50 when they made this. Crazy that his famous American roles like the Rush Hour movies or this are not even his most insane stuff. Peak 80's Hong Kong Jackie Chan was a phenomenal once a generation talent.
His Hong Kong movies are absolutely fantastic! Still some of my all time favourite movies, and then you get to the credits and see all the stunts being done for real and people (including Jackie) being taken off in stretchers. Absolute madness, total dedication.
Guys like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Arnold arrived later in America but still went on generational runs. The 3 of them made so many good action movies.
Did we ever get Jackie chan opposite Arnold? That would be hilarious. Jackie occasionally fights really big guys and it's usually his normal punished don't do anything so he needs to macguiver some bigger weapon I'd think with Arnold also being a great comic actor when he's not given too much dialogue would have been amazing
Technically, we did. [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6218010/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6218010/) But it was during the later parts of their lives, and the movie was not that good.
His more recent film called the foreigner fucking broke me because of the emotions he made me feel.
Definitely his best modern film
Can you recommend some of bis best ones?
Police Story, Project A, Armour of God & Drunken master. All movies and their sequels included.
Late 80s/90s/early 00s was the peak of HK cinema / Hollywood - also HK and US music IMHO. So many big names from this era.
Yup, just a bloody shame what's happened with him recently. Seeing such a fantastic tallent turn into a mouthpiece for the CCP sucks.
Sold out his own son for a little weed too. Not his biggest fan. I'm not the type to discredit someone's accomplishment because of this or that but man... he's making it hard. I'm not down with CCP... yeah you know me...
It's pretty unfortunate, but you either toe the line or disappear into oblivion like Jack Ma and dozen other celebrities.
Love both these movies. The scene in the Shanghai Noon when he fights the Crows is so great. Jackie is one of a kind
Yea great scene!
Is this the original soundtrack, if so I didn't realize how looney toonesq the soundtrack for this movie was lol
I’m glad someone commented on this. It needed more of a “upbeat hoedown” feel, and not a “robbing a train that’s going over a cliff” feel.
Uno más….
Jackie Chan is such an amazing stuntman.
the best
If only he could have ever worked with the best, Buster Keaton. If you never heard of Keaton, he is absolutely a lookup.
Even Jackie said Buster Keaton was his biggest inspiration.
I saw a demonstration at a Karate tournament when I was little. The dojo put on this huge display with many students using the old school curled walking canes much like this umbrella fighting style based on hook swords. It was so inspiring to see something so improvisational used effectively as a defense weapon at a young age. Also, just want to mention that this brilliant mfer will fight using a ladder every single chance he gets lol
Lol, as long as you understand that most martial arts are just that, an art first and a sport second but not actually a reasonable form of self defense. I've seen this discussed on Reddit time and time again from people in the know and the consensus is that boxing, kick boxing, ie learning how to kick and punch as hard as you can are the only martial arts that actually will help you in a real fight. Unfortunately an old school curled walking cane isn't going to do much against a guy twice your size who can just ignore whatever you're hitting him with and pummel you.
To a point, obviously the movies are not accurate, but martial arts do teach you about the body physically and give you a great understanding about how the world around you works. A trained martial artist can 100% take down that dude without even needing to get hit in a self defense situation. Your brain is much more powerful than any muscle you can build. To be fair, the stick is better than nothing. A way to make the gap in strength much smaller by reducing the other dudes effective range, and weapons are always going to make an unarmed dude think twice about pummeling anyone.
I wonder how long that took to choreograph?
2:35 eeeew, I think that actually hurt.
That was great. He was the best in the business, for sure.
Was? He's still going.
“This isn’t a yard! It’s a JAIL!”
Oh Wowww.
While I love Jackie Chan and his work, it's rarely appreciated that those who work with him, and his choreography, are as part of the reason he's so good at what he does. No move is amazing without the selling of it.
We need a new jackie chan
This clip pretty low tier compared to many other Jackie Chan scenes
A treasure.
Jackie loves a good clothes removal during a fight scene, a signature move of his
Staying one skip ahead of his doom. Nice, real nice.
Remember watching his movies when I was a teen. When there was a ladder I was like "oh boy you guys are so screwed!"
I remember thinking this was subpart at the time compared to his other stuff but watching it now is so good (I like John Wick movies but I would love someone else to continue this kind of light hearted action comedies )
I'd really love a merged Rush Hour, Shanghai Noon movie to end both series. Modern times Tucker and Chan connect with Wilson playing an anthropologist or something to help take down a criminal org smuggling antiquities, in olden times, Wilson and Chan are travelling from England to China and along with the way meet up with Tucker playing a silk merchant or something. Have some artifact or evil dude bloodline as a connecting point of the two settings. Cut back and forth and ensue zaniness. End the movie on modern times after they take down the crime ring, and the three are sorting through some of the stuff that was smuggled and they come across photos of their 'past' friendship
Can’t help but ponder the great quantity of pineapples at the market. Wouldn’t that have been a luxury item?
Such a goofy/lame musical score.
Butt te Bhatti !!!!
I’m pretty sure that kid is the new James Bond
I've always loved Jackie Chan fight choreography.
Dude is 49 here. 49 years young!!!
Ironically he's only liked in the West nowadays. I do love how well shot this scene is. Briliant set design and cinematography.
He’s kind of a dickhead but i do enjoy his old films
The music are sensational too!
[удалено]
I still remember his famous quote, "I made a mistake that every man had made" when he got caught having an affair.
Didn't he kick his daughter out for being gay?
Meh. Absolutely love Jackie, but pretty much everything here was done before and better is his Hong Kong ear work. It's still \*good\* mind you, just plays second fiddle to the stuff where he had control of the full process.
Only good or memorable bit of that movie, the singing in the rain bit always stuck with me