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OutlawMINI

Not all PP's are created equal 


nomisg

The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster


YangOfTheIndustry

You've only got a 33 and a 3rd chance of winning in that Mustang


-avenged-

I did ***not*** fucking expect to find Steiner Math in a GT sub of all places. Everyone in this chain of replies has made my day, y'all fucking champs ❤️


THISNAMEHASTOWORK

Steiner Math is the greatest wrestling promo of all time; in my opinion.


jtcranger

This only holds true if you remember to add Kurt Angle to the mix.


Mackem101

It's close, but "Kick your leg out of your leg" still takes it for me.


YangOfTheIndustry

I didn't expect it either but I do what I must because I can ❤️


TheMammothHunter

That’s “big booty daddy” math


PhospheneViolet

Same, did NOT expect this crossover in a damned GT Sub of all places lmao


THISNAMEHASTOWORK

What would happen if a third Ford was added?


Yourappwontletme

your chances of winning drastic go down.


ThraxiosFartKing

See normally if you go one-on-one with another Shelby GT350R ‘16 you have a 50/50 chance of winning, but….


dashyK0509

Of course the white one is smaller…


OutlawMINI

The BBC (Big Blue Car) is bigger.


KP0719x

That’s what she said


DaniMacYo

The only right answer


Terrible_Sorbet_7122

But some pp's are more equal than others


Unable_Trust569

Lol... Well done 👊🏽


gtsrl

That’s what she said


Uriel_dArc_Angel

Because you haven't gotten in the older one yet for it to cashe the update to the pp rating... If you jump in them both once, they'll likely even out...


opssemnik

Yep, there was a change in PP calculation a couple of updates past, most likely OP had his white one received before the update and obviously never drove it. Once he drives it they should both be equal


massivechicken

I’ll give that a crack and see what happens. I’ve probably sat in only 2% of my entire collection.


Dolby90

Did you try it yet? I'd suggest looking in the set up menu... maybe one is fitted with hard tires, one with mediums...


massivechicken

I just tried it. Sat in the white one, no change. Sat in the blue one - my PP immediately shrunk (heheh) to 571.29. Mystery solved!


5373n133n

Giggity


lunchpadmcfat

Yep, given then calculation involved with determining PP, they seem to do it lazily (when you go to the tuning screen is when I’ve found they actually update). The cached* value is what you see until then.


opssemnik

Its probably a design to protect against save tampering / basic form of anti cheating. I.e., wherever it matters, the PP always recalculate (which i guess takes a couple of moments), where it doesnt matter, it just uses the last known value (Which will be overriden anyway)


GetOverIt90

To determine the PP you need to take into account the length, width, and yaw, according to Randy Marsh ![gif](giphy|RRpaPGIlCRXuAZ6IZQ)


mfsd00d00

I downtuned a 911 GT3 last night to 650 PP exactly. Did a Porsche Cup race, exited without finishing, then for some reason its PP jumped up by 10 or 20 points and I had to downtune it even more.


Exotic_Somewhere1448

blue makes Mustangs faster, duh


leather_jackety

Changing my Mustang's color to blue right now!


Dragon_Eyes715

But Red is faster than blue


Better-Anything-8732

Just a question when you leave a car meet how many people died because of your Mustang? JOKE ok only a JOKE


leather_jackety

Lol! I meant my Mustang in GT7. I am a peasant and do not own a car in real life.


KamakaziDemiGod

How many virtual people have you run over while leaving digital car meets in GT?


No_Assignment_5742

All of them lol


LiquidSolidMostlyGas

As a Mustang owner, this meme is so annoying. Now everyone runs out of the way, so it's much harder to run them over.


Better-Anything-8732

Thats why they build the Suv one AWD no risk at All because no one Shows up with that to an car meet. 😂


Hatedpriest

No, man.. it's the racing stripe!


FordsFavouriteTowel

White stripes add more horsepower. It’s science!


Hatedpriest

#SCIENCE!!!


FordsFavouriteTowel

![gif](giphy|3o7bu0OkMN3R8BliSY|downsized)


Hatedpriest

![gif](giphy|iwnkdnExj1i92)


RaelaltRael

She blinded me with... ![gif](giphy|1oKPOJgQrROm6wPwlY|downsized)


carguy143

They give the power of a seven nation army.


Jochi18

https://preview.redd.it/zsbjznuqmt9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5caf1b1120c8294eeea3c29940381eb047a17fd I can confirm this


reddit_hayden

i’m sure the smaller one has got a great personality


TheOriginalHuh

Car wash


Shua89

Both cars are sitting at 0km so it doesn't look like they've been used


ImpressionOne8275

The cars in you garage collect dust after a while of not using them.


augustusgrizzly

that's insane attention to detail. it's a shame that you can HARDLY see the dust or dirt on cars, since i hardly ever notice a difference after car washes.


CreatureWarrior

Yeah. The car wash is the most pointless thing in the game. I would LOVE to use it.. if there was actual dirt in the game. I want my cars to look straight up muddy if I've been doing some rally races


Dolby90

Look at some cars after 24H of Le Mans... if your cars would look like this after, say 20 races... it would be really cool.


CreatureWarrior

Exactly! It would be sooo satisfying to see the before and after. It's also a visual sign of the fact that you like a car. And *visually* maintaining the car feels a lot better than clicking on the oil change box every now and then


ImpressionOne8275

Yesss, oil, dirt, the streaks down the side of them.


Chrixyxv

Tires change the pp slightly


Fa1nted_for_real

Tires are one of the more significant changes


Chrixyxv

If they are confort they don't change much


TheMightyGabe

I think the gt350 comes with sport tires stock


K-J-C

Yeah Racing Soft tyres give most PP boost.


fatsanchezbr

Some pp are beeg some pp are smol


Translator_Various

Blue paint is lighter obviously


General_Freed

Of course, it's light blue


crimeSpice

I have the most different pp.


Ok-Chart1485

They have surgery for that now I think


Sparrowhawk996

White paint is the heaviest paint, not sure if GT is accounting for that & being dramatic from some error


Independent_Ad_2073

Everyone knows that white stripes makes your car faster


Thisoneissfwihope

They were called ‘go faster stripes’ for a reason!


19MJ82

PP on the left is smaller because it was cold when they were measuring it. ;P


Salty-Okra6085

I WAS IN THE POOL!


Dependent_Order_7358

PP very soft vs PP hard


Mouse-Ancient

I'm PP Medium and I'm proud


No-Improvement-625

It's not the size of the PP it's how you use it.


Axeman-Dan-1977

I've got cars setup with an output of exactly 600PP that have changed to 602-603PP since the last update. I'm going to guess you have had the blue car longer than the white one. P.D. have possibly adjusted the PP output recently and if you enter the setup screen for the blue Mustang it will reset its PP to match the white one. Either that or someone's been driving the ass off it then clocked it back to zero, that's my best guess anyway!


alehanro

They updated the PP system a handful of times. The cars’ PP only updates when you get in. I had some cars with 4 different PP, all stock, never driven. Because they were acquired at different times.


Muted-Concept-101

The colored ones have larger PPs.


FolkenPoet

👏👏👏


robsupercharged

Did you add any parts to one that will change it


Sproncer

Genetics


DarthRaider559

One pp is bigger


Z3r0_Coo1

White PP is usually smaller


GottaB-KD

Blue is obviously faster


Eltothebee

Sometimes maybe shit, sometimes maybe good


ohiowolf

Blue is a faster color.


Informal-Wheel-9453

Blue is faster


EquivalentContract57

Maybe one was bought before the big update, they did change some of the pp's. I noticed that on a car i won at game start and never used, and a new one i bought to do an engine swap and race version, same car 0km and different pp's


Mouse-Ancient

That makes sense about the upgrade. I won a Honda Formula yesterday and I already owned one. I went to sell one of them and noticed the PP numbers to be different. I sold the older one since it had the lower number


dar3d45

Might be if one has been recently selected after one of the many alterations to the pp calculations from prior updates. Whereas the other has been sitting idly by untouched


ophaus

Blue is faster than white. Confirmed.


cyborggold

The liquid blue paint is smoother and generates less drag, obviously.


th3r0adr4g0n

Try to change the oil of the low one on the auto center, also check if tires are the same, and aero kits, also check if you fine tuned the car to limit power, reduce downforces, add ballast, etc int the past


Keso_LK1231

Oil change needed?


Schzetto

At 0 km?


Keso_LK1231

Phahah well spotted. I have no idea then! Premium colour? :D smoother less turbulent less drag? :D


CapitalTotal3633

Is This Where We Make THAT Circumcisions Joke, About How The 1 IS . . . & The Other ISN'T 😉 . ?


massivechicken

I just got circumcised actually - anyone in the market for a fan belt?


PequenoRato

raceism


TheGhostRose1200

Because Blue means fast.


International-Pipe

One got a hawk tuah and one did not.


milesac

Blue Mustang is circumcised.


Mouse-Ancient

So it doesn't have a hood anymore? Lol


andrewjazzy

Oil change?


wvdheiden207

What’s pp??


Ryanhazefx

pp for man


alekdefuneham

Maybe you changed something in the setup of the car? Downforce directly affects PP.


Ready_Caregiver9119

I think everyone had same thing with Fit Hybrid. And another question: do you modificated the car?


The21stPM

Tires


Timmytheimploder

Blue and White has more 'MURICA!!!!


strikerX1988

The Rims, the oil, the engine state. Or just The One


chacho67

"Aerodynamic of color" https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=A4iFMMY-EpuPh7Eh


jayoshoowa87

White racing stripes are faster


Gman777

The darker paint heats up the engine a little more, makes it faster.


almstAlwysJokng4real

Ones got softer tires on.


LackingCars

hehehehe pp -B


TransportationTop628

Because it’s blue


YoHolmesToBel-Air

It’s not the size of the PP that matters. It’s how you use it.


Saber9999

Because everyone knows blue is faster than white Just kidding... idk


read_it_deleted_it

White paint weighs less!


Imbatman22399

The color blue adds more downforce


juju11112020

![gif](giphy|ruZVTCF9l16xn9xfs3)


GleamingCadance

Blue has slightly better tuning than the White


kesadisan

the blue one has white racing stripes


v1nylcutr

Color matters


Makkaraman762

Because red white and blue RAAAHH🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅🦆


RevolutionaryBack74

Tires maybe?


FluffiestBoy

The comments did not disappoint


Ruin_Future

I believe that GT7 had an engine break-in mechanic


Impressive-Sun8258

Color matters


Gamerbourbon

Blue is more aerodynamic than white


ThreeArmedYeti

It's probably in the genetics.


daniec1610

Racing stripes make you faster.


Kumbooo

+5 HP stripes 👍


Ok-Chart1485

Why did you think some dealers upcharge by color?


fly_griffon

Shiny Blue adds horsepower


BrendanKwapis

Different color


SuperDragonPWG

Different color stripes


Upbeat_Sell7824

Blue is a faster color than white


J4Berg

It’s how you use the PP that makes all the difference.


Brightonic

Racing Stripes... give no tactical advantage whatsoever.


IcyIceGuardian

It looks pretty therefore its faster


Embarrassed-Deal392

Blue is faster obviously lol


Immediate-Pea-8297

Not the same year one to 2016 and the other ones are 2015 One year maybe they had different suspension different tuning that will make a difference


mevelas

The Shelby white stripes make any car faster. Every one knows that.


GetOverIt90

Well the stripes add at least 10 hp. But I don’t know if different color stripes add more horsepower


Laiceps04

Called him a rat and then ran away pure clownage


Specialist_Dance5994

its blue so its faster


AffectionateNet2976

Wide body


Due-Oven5997

Blue is lighter or smh


Significant-Bunch-22

Everybody knows a blue car can beat any white car, any day!


DragAcrobatic5403

It’s blue so it just goes a little faster


RSEstonian

Because white stripes are more powerful obviously!


MisterFlibble

If you go to your garage and view each car, one of them will change to match. It's some kind of bug I've noticed.


Beneficial_While_843

Something like this happened to me I forgot which car I completely ignored it


NamedPerson69

That’s what she said


colonel_miyagi

Blue paint costs more


ChampionshipNo2968

Oil change and engine wear?


self_educate

It's a faster color


No_Umpire_6165

White stripes are obviously faster than black stripes duh Don't you know your vinyl/decal hp conversions


El_Has

Either there was an update that only changed the points on one of those cars or they're on different tyres.


rafi323

One pp is white


chichikabour

All PPs are different, even if they are the same model


RaelaltRael

You leave my PP outta this!


chichikabour

Fellow BMW internet friend, we meet under this sub 🤝🏻


Status_Amount8356

Oil change - one has more miles


NotAcvp3lla

At the risk of turning this a race thing, white = smol PP.


DOM_TAN

The color add extra hp 😅


MPPL_

Because the stripes are white


svengine72

If this is what gives you sleepless nights then I envy you...


Floxas_885

Because of the different colour


chhhadddd

the rims and/or bodywork