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unicorninclosets

Ngl, I kinda like it. Just don’t ask me to actually read it lol.


earthbender617

The balance is on point, I love it. Legibility wise it’s kinda garbage


raqqqers

I think festival posters are the perfect place for this type of design - if you're looking to buy a ticket you won't use this you'll check the lineup on the website. If you go to the festival and loved it and you want a momento to put up at home this looks great on your wall 


narwal_wallaby

Hm that’s a really good point. To add, this might be a scenario where art/creativity can take precedence over function to some degree because (1) the user is engaged and invested and willing to take time to read through the content and (2) music festivals are about art after all. Furthermore the nature of this festival is small and intimate and has a relatively small lineup. If this was a Coachella or something massive with 200 artists, this wouldn’t work so well


tough_napkin

yeah the poster isn't really about information it's about EXCITEMENT


heliskinki

I'm getting neither.


tough_napkin

🙄


Elle--Elle

I've gone to 30+ music festivals and the lineup graphic is always where I look 1000% of the time. A large part of design is legibility and delivery of information. This is the worst lineup graphic I've ever seen. A festival print, what you'd put on your wall afterwards (and I also collect), is where more fun designs are, but they usually have some imaginative and creative artwork to accompany the lineup. I respectfully disagree with you. It fails in both realms.


Punkrockpariah

I mean the balance is on point because it’s completely symmetrical lol I’d have brought the two on the top/bottom middle a bit closer together but yeah visually this is a fun design. Legibility wise, erm not so much.


_992_

Ok yea this would make a cool abstract geometric poster lol


your_friendes

If anything I actually read it more because of the odd justification. But the hierarchy isn’t the most functional. The only thing I would add is some way to distinguish the band names from each other. Like is the name of the band “Angel Olsen Barry Can’t Swim” or “Angel Olsen Barry” and “Can’t Swim” or “Angel Olsen” and “Barry Can’t Swim” Or “Angel”, “Olsen Berry” and “Can’t swim” But then again the people who like the bands would still know.


freeeeels

>Like is the name of the band “Angel Olsen Barry Can’t Swim” or “Angel Olsen Barry” and “Can’t Swim” or “Angel Olsen” and “Barry Can’t Swim” Or “Angel”, “Olsen Berry” and “Can’t swim” I legit had to look this up because I intuitively decided it had to be "Angel Olsen", "Barry" and "Can't Swim". Nope, it's Angel Olsen and Barry Can't Swim. You can tell I'm not a music person lmao Imagine a musician just called "Barry".


I_Thot_So

If you’re the target audience, you immediately recognize a decent amount of the names. I know about 1/3 of the acts and I have NOT kept up with new acts from the last decade or so. But between notoriety and pattern recognition, most people would get what they need from the poster.


heliskinki

Try reading it while driving past in a car.


your_friendes

It definitely isn’t designed for that in mind. I think it is much more social media facing. Ironic for a “Poster” but like it says tickets are already sold out. I don’t think it was designed for advertising but rather informing the people who already pre-purchased their tickets.


sly-3

It's purpose is to serve as a $50 souvenir for the wall at home.


your_friendes

Exactly


heliskinki

Is it now. Wonder how many they sold.


heliskinki

Even as a piece for social media, it’s illegible bollocks.


rwbronco

“How does my business card look?” “Try reading it while driving past in a car.”


heliskinki

It’s not a business card. No promoter I work with would let that fly. Souvenir or otherwise.


botdroid_wrench

Same. Legibility is still an important concept no matter how cool the poster looks. You CAN do both. I know. I design event posters and have for over 20 years. The cool, illegible stuff had little response to the event because no one knew who was playing. Looked great, but the purpose of communication was ignored over form. It doesn't always work. And with these huge events full of a plethora of bands, the posters are like reading the phone book. Alan Cross did a bit on them and says it's part of the reason that these bigger festival style shows are seeing a reduction in attendance (not withstand the economic situation of where we are as music lovers)


heliskinki

Same as. I've been designing for the music industry for 20 years - I work ad hoc for Live Nation along with some more indie promoters plus a few festivals. But hey, WTF do I know lol. The above poster looks like a student project - zero consideration for the end user. No wonder there are so many on this sub wondering why they can't get a job when this gets held up as an example of good design.


botdroid_wrench

I think some of that way of designing is based upon people who do not really understand the Principles of Design but think a few youtube videos on Photoshop and figma make them a graphic designer. Sure, I have augmented my learning with short courses and one-off videos, but the core understanding of communication was important. Not just learning the software. A cool looking graphic does nothing if it can't convey its meaning easily. In today's world, it has to be understood very quickly, or people move on to the next.


heliskinki

There's a huge misunderstanding of what graphic design is. Most of the examples posted on this sub are graphic art, a completely different discipline where the client is "self".


your_friendes

It’s really ironic that the festival is named “Form” but the designer doesn’t remember “Form follows function.”


Donghoon

I'm not reading any of the squares. All I see is form 2024


westwoo

It also can be from 2204, like from the future


FermFoundations

I think this is a lot easier to read than a typical wall of text style flyer


Hazzman

Yeah I love this.


BadAtExisting

Caught my eye enough to tap on it on social media. Dont hate it


Suzarain

Ugh I actually love it.


Decabet

It's sold out already, making this poster more a souvenir art piece and I respect its formatting while not personally loving the design.


Fallom_TO

I love it. This isn’t meant to easily convey info, it’s art.


The_Rolling_Stone

Normally I'd agree but gig posters have a tradition with the type art and hierarchy and while it's okay to break the rules, I cannot tell you you who the headliner is here, and that puts it into the bad territory for me. The balance between art and design is lost here. Just realised they ordered it alphabetically. Come on. It's a multiday fest. Who's playing what day. Who are the biggest acts. Art can still convey info (and design pretty much has to).


scratchisthebest

> I cannot tell you you who the headliner is here That is on purpose. They're trying not to create a headliner/second-class distinction. From their website: > FORM reimagines what a festival can be. No VIP sections. Breathtakingly intimate performances with no overlapping sets. If you can't figure out who's headlining, sounds like the design is functioning as intended :)


The_Rolling_Stone

That makes more sense thanks


killthestroke

Normally I’d agree, but as a music festival-goer, the initial lineup announcement is just to let me know who’s playing and get me excited for the event. I expect the initial lineup announcement to ONLY have names on it. Then, closer to the date of the event, I expect to see a set schedule released that conveys more information about when/where etc. This is just a hype poster in my opinion and it’s different but I think its gets the job done. I personally like when festival lineup posters don’t have the headliners *literally* headlining the poster. It gives smaller acts a chance to be seen in the same type size as the more well-known acts which can help attendees discover new artists and perhaps become more likely to attend a set they may have otherwise overlooked.


killthestroke

With that being said I don’t love the letter spacing in some of the artist names. For example, Four tet is the name of one artist. Yet it appears on two lines and “tet” is way more spaced out than “four” so if I wasn’t already familiar with them I don’t know that I’d be able to decipher the name. I might mistakenly think “four” and “tet” are two different acts


MmmmCrispyBacon

Just to add to this, it sort of sucks you in to reading the whole lineup and trying to find people you’re excited to see on there. Traditional lineup designs forces attention to the very top and many people don’t read beyond that. It also is kind of cool that each artist is treated more “equally” and the festival itself isn’t screaming at you who they say the headliners are. Maybe the “headliner” in your mind is one of your favorite bands but they’d be considered “3rd tier” by the festival and in tiny print. At the end of the day, this style of poster can be very hit or miss. iii points just released theirs and they did something similar, but I felt it was less successful and impactful with obvious imbalances and awkwardness.


ohWombats

Good luck trying to decipher the names of the smaller acts. I can't tell where one group ends and another begins.


WhichExamination4623

“gig posters have a tradition” https://preview.redd.it/rzb2vtkibd6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d50c1527d61fec19115887f6d7c0b7db2425311


WhichExamination4623

“gig posters have a tradition” https://preview.redd.it/xn8mlosjbd6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e068189c1b66b3c30324aa1025e8dbfc5ce69b3


WhichExamination4623

“gig posters have a tradition” https://preview.redd.it/7944m72lbd6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb5241b4a85eb66c84e8687f75af5694427ac50f


WhichExamination4623

“gig posters have a tradition” https://preview.redd.it/pyma1kfmbd6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf3434e164eeaa2430970149b62b92135bcb4713


pokemon-sucks

Those were meant to be readable by people on acid lol


The_Rolling_Stone

Idk if this is supposed to be a gotcha, these are great art pieces and have good hierarchy. I probably should've specified festival poster instead of gig, but these are still better than the OP.


WhichExamination4623

You are correct, they mostly have better hierarchy. From my knowledge of this event, they literally don’t want a hierarchy of performers. It’s much more of a community vibe. I mean, have you seen video of the event? It’s not a normal festival.


The_Rolling_Stone

No I clearly haven't seen anything and was just judging it like a normal festival poster


your_friendes

The concert was pre sold out. I think that gives them the ability to be less informative than a normal announcement.


Xelanders

Wait until you see posters for black metal festivals


GlitteringTea7246

Yeah there's so much focus on the centre, the festival name and the design that they forgot the event is actually about the musicians lol


wogwai

> I cannot tell you you who the headliner is here Hot take but this is a good thing actually


sly-3

the only thing that turns my stomach is the emphasis on "glamping". Although, it does let me know that it's clientele is not in the same category as, let's say, Gathering of the Juggalos.


Fallom_TO

You get the info from the website. This isn’t meant to convey that information. If all the letters became Xs it would still look great. Like I said, it’s meant to be art.


Namorons

I do not think there's meant to be a hierarchy because they're placed alphabetically.  I personally love the lack of hierarchy


ohWombats

>The balance between art and design is lost here. Exactly. When you are trying to announce a festival lineup, hierarchy and solid typography are key. This is just a muddled mess. The intent behind the design is blurred, and it's much more art than anything. This should be a variant gig poster sold in the merch booth, not the actual lineup poster.


Fallom_TO

It’s sold out. This isn’t trying to sell tickets.


ohWombats

Regardless, it's a festival poster and it needs to convey key information (i.e. the lineup headliners, mid card, and lower card).


Fallom_TO

Why does it need to do that? Does it also need what stage they’re on and the set times? What about the address?


ohWombats

Now you're just being facetious lol. As art it's cool, but as a lineup announcement poster it fails its duty of conveying info effectively.


Fallom_TO

I’m not. You know the answer is that the info I mentioned is on the website, where the line up is. This fits the purpose of the poster very well, you can’t convince me it’s bad. It’s good art.


ohWombats

I don't know what you don't get hahaha, I agree with you that as an art piece, it is cool and interesting. As design work goes, it is bad. Trying to decipher this lineup on a smaller scale is a nightmare (social media). if I look up "Form 2024", I get IRS tax forms, and there is no mention of a website URL anywhere on the poster. Idc if the fest is sold out, this is the first time anyone is seeing the lineup. If you are trying to tell people who is who, you are doing a bad job when you can't tell where one group ends and another begins. Simply, if many people are complaining that it is illegible, then you failed to do your job as the designer.


Fallom_TO

I get it fine. You’re imposing your own rules on what the purpose of this poster is. It fails by those arbitrary rules. It wins for what it’s meant to be. Again, it’s sold out. This is not meant to sell tickets.


uncagedborb

I remember reading some comments on this sub about people complaining that art is not design, but this poster is such a good example of art emulating design. Some people have their Apple Pencil too far up their bums


Advanced_Eggplant574

Actually it’s graphic design which the main goal of is to communicate information.


Fallom_TO

This is meant to sell at the merch table. It is not meant to convey useful info to sell tickets. Because again, the festival is sold out. But thanks, it’s great to see someone use ‘actually’ in real life!


Advanced_Eggplant574

Where did you read that the tickets are sold out? On the poster that doesn’t communicate information?


Fallom_TO

No. I did what anyone interested in further info would do. I went to the website. There are only 2500 tickets available for this festival. It’s very expensive and deliberately exclusionary. If you looked into it you’d realize you’re just wrong on this. They don’t need to do any advertising to sell out, period. They don’t even need to publish a list of performers I’d wager, they’d still sell out right away.


Advanced_Eggplant574

None of that makes this a good piece of design. The typesetting is just bad.


Individual_Unit_896

OP’s image says it’s sold out on the bottom.


ManufacturerWest1156

Cool design but yeah the text is a bit much. Also I would have hated having to do the text lol.


bossemasse

why? that’s quite easy in Indesign


rwbronco

People downvoting… linked boxes, full justification, paragraph styles with some GREP.


ACoderGirl

Yeah, justified text sucks to read. I'm admittedly not too sure how well it would look visually without the justified text, but at least it'd be more readable.


ManufacturerWest1156

Would look weird. The boxes look cool but limit what you can do.


Ckck96

Hate the tracking but love the sense of depth they created, overall it’s pretty neat design IMO.


ryckae

It looks cool if the intent is for it to be abstract artwork meant solely for decoration. But if people are actually supposed to read this thing and get information from it? Hell nah.


frasierdanger

Design is not just to make things pretty. This is not good.


An_Alarmed_Cat

Visually I like it. In terms of legibility it may not be ideal


[deleted]

Even some of the names on the edges are yikes


Ident-Code_854-LQ

**I dig it.** Sort-of-Constructivist inspired design here. I guess, ***goes with theme of "FORM".*** Ironic, though, since it uses fully justified text ***(flush left and right),*** when Constructivists were more than likely **to eschew formal, shape conforming, formatted text.** That part's the only real problem of this poster, ***seems really forced to fit the idea of the design.*** Not a big fan of ever doing that **for legibility and design hierarchy purposes.** Proof of this recklessness, ***also shows up in the horizontal version of this poster.*** https://preview.redd.it/rxyon3h67g6d1.jpeg?width=1303&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d493057396cc413d95be4bc97f8f7f087486915e The performers here are listed alphabetically *(left to right, top to bottom)* and aren't indicated as in an order of performance. **Therefore, it's practically a random order.** I would have moved the names around *until I got a more aesthetically pleasing setup,* ***while remaining in this pseudo-grid format.*** Having the variability of 3 to 5 lines per square top there, would have helped a lot. **Then center justified,** ***not fully justified,*** but kerned / letterspaced, so that long enough names would reach both left and right edges. **Also, would've used the tiny bullet points,** ***they used to separate the festival sponsors*** at the bottom of the graphic above the dates, *to separate the full names of these performers.* I think compositionally, ***that's really an easy fix.*** **Lack of effort by this designer appalls me.** After going to the [festival website,](https://www.experienceform.com/) **it even seems that they used someone else,** ***for this poster,*** *other than the established theme and aesthetic,* they already had designed.


illwillzine

https://preview.redd.it/gmhhaeto0e6d1.png?width=174&format=png&auto=webp&s=60468d246518adfd2f8ff6f2650380f688a4ed8d Can't unsee.


hockeynut15

?? Looks great, lovely piece of art. It’s clear that the majority here haven’t taken the time to understand the premise or context of this festival/poster. This sub needs to relax a bit.


TheAnzus

Yeah, I follow 3 design subreddits and this specific one feels like a cult. They treat design rules as if they were on the bible. Sometimes I feel like some people don't even appreciate art because they're focusing too much on the 5 design rules they saw on a TikTok once


hockeynut15

100% - the remarks here just remind me of being in university. Everyone trying to flex their knowledge without any realisation of how this craft is applied in the real world.


scrimp-and-save

100% They just want to READ not THINK. Boring........


Advanced_Eggplant574

As a designer the typesetting in this poster upsets me.


scrimp-and-save

As a designer... no one cares....


Advanced_Eggplant574


MAN_UTD90

The one that seriously bothers me is the Skrillex Thunder C A T. It's the only one with a blank space in the middle. I like it though the legibility is not great, but it's the kind of poster that forces you to pay attention and look for a while and it does that job well.


G1ngerBoy

Form over function. It gets peoples attention but good luck keeping it once they try to understand it. Speaking of which, can anyone figure out what its for?


stlredbird

Form over function but it looks cool Edit: no pun intended


They-Call-Me-Taylor

Holy readability issues, Batman!


lungleg

Work to read it


pop-in-sock

It’s giving SA SA LE LE.


FemmeFeather

That tracking is insane, surely they could have just justified the names to make the square instead of doing whatever this is?


mackinoncougars

FR22 OMO4, I never miss it! All the typesetting is awful


winstonelectric

I’m usually for aesthetics over function but looking at this on Instagram trying to figure out who was playing was totally insane


your_friendes

Well you couldn’t buy tickets anyway right?


pokemon-sucks

You could GLAMP!


eggs_mcmuffin

This is dope and different then any other festival poster I’ve seen. Do I like the kerning? Fuck no. But it’s different so cheers to that


im_out_of_creativity

I get what they tried to do but this is not the way to do it.


marc1411

I dig it. You can let go of some legibility on gig posters. We already know it’s “FORM” and not FR22. The band names are a bit clumsily done. Whatever.


Oceanbreeze871

This looks moderately cool as long as you’re not supposed to read any of it. Graphic design fail


ryannovak29

this is for sure bad. on the bottom rung, P I N K with that kind of spacing should only be referring to PINK. pantheress seems entirely unconnected on the next line. Plus PinkPantheress is all one word anyway. Other spots with one word artists like skillex and then a massive space? the idea is cool but the content doesn't suit the space well


siimbaz

Thats cool. I like it! Yall just haters. It can be a fantastic design but many of your egos don't let you appreciate anything.


ubermick

So basically anyone who doesn't agree with your own opinion is just an egotistical hater? Wow.


siimbaz

Nah we can disagree. But a lot of this sub loves to shit on anything that isnt groundbreaking. Which nothing is. Its graphic design. Were not changing lives here.


GlitteringTea7246

The Jamie X X is killing me


Far_Layer4024

Looks like one crazy eye exam chart 😵


BigManScaramouche

Looks like the posters we used to have in Poland during communist/sociallist times. Looks neat.


Ident-Code_854-LQ

It definitely seems **Constructivist inspired.**


giglbox06

I think it’s rad. It caught my eye and I took time to look at it which is all I really want lol. I wish there were clear headliners but it’s also pretty cool to put everyone on one level. Edit: after reading some comments I want to add that I think OP is looking at this wanting it to be more informative whereas I believe the goal was more of an art piece people would keep.


ohWombats

Your edit is correct. It just kinda irked me that they used this as the branded lineup announcement when it should have only been a merch booth variant. Cool art, weak design. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Was cool to have some debate in this sub which has really turned into burn out stories, portfolio reviews, and then occasionally a showcase.


scrimp-and-save

The design did its job (to get attention) well enough for you to take notice and repost it here though....


IAMA_MAGIC_8BALL_AMA

I love it, I just wish the text layout was friendlier Like I can’t tell if that’s a guy named Mustafa and the rapper Noname or a guy named Mustafa Noname


MemeHermetic

Yikes nothing. This is rad. Concert posters are like 30% legibility and 70% "I wanna put that on my wall."


pi_west

Took me a solid 6 seconds to notice that there were words here.


irotinmyskin

It’s like this started with a good idea, but they stopped at the first draft.


oatmeal_steve

straight out of 2012


Sasquatch_Squad

This is good. It's a branding piece, not a brochure. You guys are just old and/or grumpy.


GoliathPrime

There's a lot I like, but if it fails legibility, then it fails.


64dogs

Reminds me of a watch face in some ways. But the text is not perfect, no


XenophiliusRex

I guess you could say the design is an example of FORM over function…


My-asthma

good art, bad design but gig posters are mostly art anyways


heliskinki

Hey, real world gig poster designer here with 20+ years experience in the field, working for Live Nation, a bunch of indie promoters and a few festivals (30k+ capacity). >but gig posters are mostly art anyways Bullshit.


hennyl0rd

The more I look at it the more I like it, first glance I thought I was having a stroke but after the initial shock it drew me in


ryanbwalk

I'm a very new designer so my opinion doesn't matter but to me it looks really nice and I can read it fine.


CivilRiceOnionRing

Terrible for reader accessibility,  but the design is really great tbh


GamingNomad

I like the look. But trying to read it gave me nausea.


9th_YearlyAccount

What's wrong with it?


NemoElcon

I love the design and color scheme. Great retro feel! If people are supposed to get any info from this, then I’m more of a sceptic. At first glance I thought the text around was just a texture to my peripheral vision. And then I discovered there’s a date at the bottom and that the “texture” was artist names. Here’s my point: as an art project, it’s pretty cool. As an informational piece, there’s too much noise. Remember: you’re designing for the reader, not the eye. Yes, make it look good but not at the cost of the information that you are to convey. Imagine yourself as an employee and you hire someone to design a poster for you and the poster doesn’t communicate what you want it to say but looks great. What is most important?


_flwrchld_

fun to look at, bad to read info lol


Terrible-Book-3369

To people who attend, it’s great. For the rest of us, I thought they misspelled FROM.


CandySkyStudio

Looks okay, and honestly love that it’s alphabetical. Makes it easy to look for artist names. Although the justified text with this type kind of throws me off a bit.


AdelaideBriena

I wish they added a secondary shadow to the box shadows… that way this wouldn’t look like a military medal, to me


ToDreamOfGhosts

wtf is this?!


slo707

So many type crimes… 🙈


Efficient-Internal-8

It's very well done. Congrats to whomever designed it. Bravo. Guys, if this was a label for medication, then there would be some significant type legibility BUT it's for a concert! Design is all about understanding use and audience.


PepeTheTerorist

I kinda like it. Feels old in a way


F_-nn

Fuckers Fifi?


NWG_LYKAIOS

Feel like I’m at an eye clinic about to do an eye exam.


hi_its_spenny

I like it


Phillies059

The design is cool, but trying to read it is like reading an eye chart at the eye doctor 😂


xishi

Holy kerning Batman


luciusveras

If this was an optician eye chart test the whole world would be blind.


dilfslayer420

Uh choices were made 🤭


djphysix

Shouldn't Thunder Cat and Team Ezy be swapped, to maintain alphabetical order?


FiveMileDammit

All I know is Kim Gordon. I'm old. EDIT: And Thundercat.


catfishigloo

Design good. Typesetting bad.


strongholdbk_78

Really great piece of art. Terrible at conveying any information.


connorgrs

* Easy to read * Unique and eye-catching design * Design thematically reflects name of festival * Decent enough typography * Decent enough visual hierarchy OP's mistaking personal taste for objective quality


ohWombats

on what planet is this easy to read, and what visual hierarchy? lol


connorgrs

Earth


ohWombats

![gif](giphy|3oEduUJgrJnTH093yw|downsized)


connorgrs

Upvote for the gif, got a chuckle out of me


takemyspear

damn they must got the intern to do the design


HooverFlag

Hard to read but I dig this.


canonanon

I actually think it works. It's pleasing to look at, attracts the eye, and then it forces you to linger because it's slightly difficult to read, which can be a good thing.


pokemon-sucks

The design is kinda cool as far as the solid orange/brown shapes, but the FORM 2024 should have been done differently and the text blocks around the shapes are all jacked up regarding spacing, etc. which is pissing me off.


GettingWreckedAllDay

Fruit Omoa


uncagedborb

I don't hate it. At least the styling is consistent—and by consistent i mean intentionally shotty kerning. If everything was kerning and spacing like it *should* this poster would be a million times less interesting Festival posters are a great place to be experimental!


TheAnzus

Some things are not meant to be technically good. I've said this so many times in this group: Graphic design has no bible. You can have rules, but you can't turn them into your judgments. I think this poster is insanely good in concept and execution. might not be 100% readable and could have more contrast to focus on some elements but I don't think that this is bad design at all.


ael00

Would you prefer another freepik template with neon gradients and dropshadows set in Bebas?


thehood98

Its beautiful


epic-robot

Amazing


he-likes-24

i love it too hahah id def collect this or have it on a tshirt


TAABWK

HATER ALERT


boss_taco

You obviously don’t know about Paolo Soleri. You should study up on the architect who built the compound Cosanti and Arcosanti. This poster is fantastic. Not everything is about readability.


ohWombats

It is when you are relaying information.


boss_taco

I swear. There aren’t actually any legit designers on this sub. It’s just people who think they know design because they watched “Helvetica” once.