Oklahoma: Carrier Infinity HVAC-March 2021:
-5 Ton Evap (R410A)
-Infinity thermostat
-80% Two-stage gas furnace
-5 ton 19 speed variable
-Associated wiring/cables/etc
-Total $12,100.00 for everything + 10 year warranty
Forgot that no ductwork was needed. The old system was 4 ton York that worked OK, but def struggled in the summer and was 16 years old when it was replaced.
I just got multiple quotes in Connecticut for a 5 ton system. Prices ranging from $13,500 for a single stage Goodman 5 ton system to $19,000 for a Bosch system with dual fuel heat pump/gas furnace. Note these quotes do not require any duct replacement
Interesting. Just opened my quote I got from last week. It was similar to DashboardError system
Carrier Infinity - 5.0 TON Up To 22 SEER2 80% 110K BTU Dual Fuel Split Sys - Var Cond & 2-Stg Frn & Var Blwr (Model 25VNA4)
* 2 thermostats
* 2 damper controls
* No additional duct work
* Adding a 100 Amp sub-panel ($1,100)
Total $39K
Seemed like a complete ripoff when I heard the number.
I think HVAC companies have massively inflated pricing due to credits. I am in MA and there are \~$12K credits between state and federal for the system. So businesses just increase their quotes by $12K so to the consumer they are still getting the same price and businesses just take the majority of the credit.
Between Fed and CT state, I can get $5,325 credit on the Bosch heat pump and it has a 96% gas furnace. I got 2 different quotes on that system that were basically the same price ($18,500 and $19,000 before the credits). According to both of the installers I talked to, a company called Midea makes both the Bosch and Carrier heat pump units. They offered to quote Carrier and said it would be approximately $3,000 more but that it wasn’t worth the extra. Seems like the installers in Massachusetts are taking advantage of the credits to jack up the price.
I think this is what happened with solar as well, they just take into account some of the rebates and up the price by at least that amount = more cushy commission
We did ours through Costco nine years ago. We paid about 14,000. But because we did it through Costco we got a 10% cash card. Then I put it on my Costco Amex and got 2% back from that, and another 2% from my executive membership. We could use the cash card immediately, and waited until the end of the year for the two reward checks.
Not exactly the same, but we just got flooring done through Costco in the last year and got a 15% cash card plus the 2% from our executive membership as well. Really great deal, and stood out among our 5 quotes we got for said flooring.
My sister replaced her unit on her roof just last week. (Heating and natural gas combined--3.5 ton) . She had bids of $14k, 16K, 23K and two outlier bids for 26K and 28K, but the two highest bids included a heat pump instead of natural gas. Bids included craning the new unit onto the roof and installing the air handler / natural gas heater in the attic.
Just had my system replaced earlier this year in southeast Ohio. 3.5 ton unit for 7100 cash. Install guy said he offers similar jobs on the side for around 6500.
It depend on house size , efficiency , area, I replace my 22 year old furnace this past winter, with a new water heater , it was 8,600 in the Chicago suburbs, I would go with a local company, thru usually live in the community, so their work is more reliable, the big chains don’t care
Every house is different. We have no idea the work required for YOUR specific house to make sure an AC replacement is done to code. Getting others past quotes/costs seems like a waste of time to me.
NC, USA, two years ago. 9 total tons of refrigerant, 4 ton and 5 ton units. New indoor and outdoor units, Goodman brand. No new ductwork. $19k
ETA: Two stage units, electric primary with NG secondary. Heat pumps.
Right now.
Central Ohio
3.5 ton two stage heat pump (was gonna be 16 seer ac but with the tax credit heat pump was -$100 cost)
97% efficient gas furnace as backup heat and air mover
Rework most of the return duct work
Seal all existing duct work with duct butter to improve efficiency
Replace 4 runs of duct stolen by the asbestos folks.
Total cost about $17500.
Competitor bids were $22k and $25k.
We live in Southern California. Converted from gas to electric, relocated air handler to the attic from garage, new ducts. 5 ton compressor/heat pump, two air handlers (upstairs, downstairs) 27k.
It was the middle quote. One was 34k the other was 26k for a lot less desirable setup. Ouch.
5k total (including units) They removed and installed a new carrier brand 4 ton unit two years ago. South Texas. They used the same ducts and the tubing that connect inside and outdoor units. The installers were a group of 5. They did everything in like 4 hours. I checked the model online, and it sells for around 3k, so I suppose if you find a good technician, you could save.
I changed out mt heat/ac unit about 10 years ago. Was ~$4k. Exactly a year later my neighbor swapped out hers. Same unit and was charged ~$6k by same company. The sales logic was something to do with new Chinese import tax, she believed them, though unit was built in US. Now another neighbor is currently shopping, and has been quoted 14-14k
Like everyone else said, expect it to be around $10K. The newer units should be more energy efficient due to their SEER ratings. Somehow I feel they don't make them like they used to though.
10K via small HVAC company, early spring 2020 before the busy season. 5 ton 2-stage/ 2 speed Goodman. Price also included all new ducts, vent boots, relocating returns.
New Daikin heat pump and a/c for 1200SF house, all new ducts, air return plenums in each bedroom and the hallway with the air handler in the attic. $18k for a permitted install in SoCal by a local installer.
We got our lennox hvac through Costco with a local dealer. Costco did 10% cash card back on the purchase. So we got 2% back from our membership and also put it on our costco credit card card for another 2% back.
Our unit cost $12,000. We got $1,200 back thru costco cash card and $480 from our membership/credit card. So about $10,300 in total.
We had gotten quotes from other companies before pulling the trigger on this deal (our unit was dying) with prices between $14,000-16,000. I think our unit is a 14 seer, but now the EPA requires a higher seer for installation as of 2023.
The costco dealer incorporated the power rebate into our purchase price so we didnt have to do the rebate ourself.
I did it in 2022 in central NJ. I only had a furnace so I swapped that and added AC. I got a two-stage furnace with humidifier and a single-stage AC. All together it was a little less than 12k.
We paid over 10k. Super super old system that was struggling but worked;we went with a local company that we trusted and.
I highly recommend doing it before it totally shits the bed, that way you’re not suffering in 100° heat 🥵
DO THIS FIRST:
search on YouTube for:
installing your own AC unit..
Installing your own furnace...
If your half way handy you can do this yourself..
They have step by step videos, what tools to use, etc
They review trouble shooting your ac system,, it way just be something basic that needs replacing
AC repair videos will tell you how to test the compressor ( it's very easy) etc
They review what AC units not to buy,
what furnaces not to buy.
They review how to service them yourself
They review how to troubleshoot, and identify the problem. So you won't get ripped off.
If nothing else, it's educational
Get more than just those two quotes. You need a minimum of three and hopefully at least five. I would avoid the large companies as they have lots of overhead and you pay for all of that.
I actually sell residential HVAC systems for a living. You can expect to spend anywhere from 9000-18000 for a full system, but cheaper is not always better.
At the end of the day it really all depends.
What’s your LABOR warranty? Are you doing single stage two stage or modulating? Where’s your market? Is it a heat pump, furnace ac combo, ac only? Are they just swapping the system or are they doing all the misc dodads that should also get done with a system change out ? Are you financing or paying outright (“free” finance is usually costed into a job and you could get anywhere from a 2-10% discount for paying cash).
Any serious duct mods need to get done ? What’s messed up with your current install? Do you plan on fixing it?
Basically tons of variables, someone needs to get eyes on it to give you an accurate quote.
Anyone paying more than $8-10k is getting ROBBED (even this is way too high).
Equipment + materials cost is <2500 in most cases and systems are installed in 24-48 hours.
6k in labor for 4-12 hours?
WHAT????
Seriously, I see these posts and am shocked to all hell at these prices. I guess that’s a great industry to be in, lot of money to be made and a lot of people to take advantage of. 9k is about 3 months of take home pay for me. Not a chance in hell I can take a hit like that. That’s why I’ve been watching YouTube videos like crazy on how to do it myself.
Oklahoma: Carrier Infinity HVAC-March 2021: -5 Ton Evap (R410A) -Infinity thermostat -80% Two-stage gas furnace -5 ton 19 speed variable -Associated wiring/cables/etc -Total $12,100.00 for everything + 10 year warranty Forgot that no ductwork was needed. The old system was 4 ton York that worked OK, but def struggled in the summer and was 16 years old when it was replaced.
Wow thanks for sharing. I just got a quote for nearly the same system for $39K! Still waiting on more quotes.
I just got multiple quotes in Connecticut for a 5 ton system. Prices ranging from $13,500 for a single stage Goodman 5 ton system to $19,000 for a Bosch system with dual fuel heat pump/gas furnace. Note these quotes do not require any duct replacement
Interesting. Just opened my quote I got from last week. It was similar to DashboardError system Carrier Infinity - 5.0 TON Up To 22 SEER2 80% 110K BTU Dual Fuel Split Sys - Var Cond & 2-Stg Frn & Var Blwr (Model 25VNA4) * 2 thermostats * 2 damper controls * No additional duct work * Adding a 100 Amp sub-panel ($1,100) Total $39K Seemed like a complete ripoff when I heard the number. I think HVAC companies have massively inflated pricing due to credits. I am in MA and there are \~$12K credits between state and federal for the system. So businesses just increase their quotes by $12K so to the consumer they are still getting the same price and businesses just take the majority of the credit.
Between Fed and CT state, I can get $5,325 credit on the Bosch heat pump and it has a 96% gas furnace. I got 2 different quotes on that system that were basically the same price ($18,500 and $19,000 before the credits). According to both of the installers I talked to, a company called Midea makes both the Bosch and Carrier heat pump units. They offered to quote Carrier and said it would be approximately $3,000 more but that it wasn’t worth the extra. Seems like the installers in Massachusetts are taking advantage of the credits to jack up the price.
I think this is what happened with solar as well, they just take into account some of the rebates and up the price by at least that amount = more cushy commission
Great info, thank you!
We did ours through Costco nine years ago. We paid about 14,000. But because we did it through Costco we got a 10% cash card. Then I put it on my Costco Amex and got 2% back from that, and another 2% from my executive membership. We could use the cash card immediately, and waited until the end of the year for the two reward checks.
Not exactly the same, but we just got flooring done through Costco in the last year and got a 15% cash card plus the 2% from our executive membership as well. Really great deal, and stood out among our 5 quotes we got for said flooring.
Check for rebates from your power company for a heat pump.
will do, thanks for the tip!
My sister replaced her unit on her roof just last week. (Heating and natural gas combined--3.5 ton) . She had bids of $14k, 16K, 23K and two outlier bids for 26K and 28K, but the two highest bids included a heat pump instead of natural gas. Bids included craning the new unit onto the roof and installing the air handler / natural gas heater in the attic.
I paid 14,000k for a one ton roof unit in February in Los Angeles and 12,000k for the same unit in an attic about 2 years ago.
I just paid 17k for a rooftop unit
$10k
Chicago burbs too. just got a complete new system last month for 11k
Perfect, thank you!
8 years ago I swapped out one of my systems. It was $6500. I need to do the other one. I was told to expect about $11-12,000.
Just had my system replaced earlier this year in southeast Ohio. 3.5 ton unit for 7100 cash. Install guy said he offers similar jobs on the side for around 6500.
$10k two years ago, Carrier equipment
It depend on house size , efficiency , area, I replace my 22 year old furnace this past winter, with a new water heater , it was 8,600 in the Chicago suburbs, I would go with a local company, thru usually live in the community, so their work is more reliable, the big chains don’t care
Just got quoted $34k. 2000sf house (one floor plus basement). We put window units in. Nys.
Southeast Michigan. 2200 sqft colonial. Got my 30 yr old HVAC system (central heating plus AC) replaced last month for ~$9000.
$7900 for an 80% gas furnace and AC, which was the best of 3 quotes with a cash discount. Cleveland, 2022.
in utah, 4 ton variable 22 seer for basement + downstairs was $22k. Worth every single penny though as the house is always warm or cold as I want.
Every house is different. We have no idea the work required for YOUR specific house to make sure an AC replacement is done to code. Getting others past quotes/costs seems like a waste of time to me.
$11,400 to replace an existing furnace and add ac and a whole house humidifier. Comfort Pride in Roselle. Highly recommend.
$9300 this past January
NC, USA, two years ago. 9 total tons of refrigerant, 4 ton and 5 ton units. New indoor and outdoor units, Goodman brand. No new ductwork. $19k ETA: Two stage units, electric primary with NG secondary. Heat pumps.
12,000 a year ago. New furnace and air conditioning. Our 1960 air conditioning couldn’t handle our house.
Right now. Central Ohio 3.5 ton two stage heat pump (was gonna be 16 seer ac but with the tax credit heat pump was -$100 cost) 97% efficient gas furnace as backup heat and air mover Rework most of the return duct work Seal all existing duct work with duct butter to improve efficiency Replace 4 runs of duct stolen by the asbestos folks. Total cost about $17500. Competitor bids were $22k and $25k.
My parents just had theirs done and it was $9500. They also had a bid for 13k for a slightly upgraded one
We live in Southern California. Converted from gas to electric, relocated air handler to the attic from garage, new ducts. 5 ton compressor/heat pump, two air handlers (upstairs, downstairs) 27k. It was the middle quote. One was 34k the other was 26k for a lot less desirable setup. Ouch.
We just had a new furnace/blower and AC unit put in with a whole house humidifier. Set us back $7500
We paid about the same, just didn’t get the whole house humidifier.
5k total (including units) They removed and installed a new carrier brand 4 ton unit two years ago. South Texas. They used the same ducts and the tubing that connect inside and outdoor units. The installers were a group of 5. They did everything in like 4 hours. I checked the model online, and it sells for around 3k, so I suppose if you find a good technician, you could save.
I changed out mt heat/ac unit about 10 years ago. Was ~$4k. Exactly a year later my neighbor swapped out hers. Same unit and was charged ~$6k by same company. The sales logic was something to do with new Chinese import tax, she believed them, though unit was built in US. Now another neighbor is currently shopping, and has been quoted 14-14k
We got two 3.5ton units with gas furnace for 12k all said and done.
Like everyone else said, expect it to be around $10K. The newer units should be more energy efficient due to their SEER ratings. Somehow I feel they don't make them like they used to though.
13k heat pump with dual gas furnace... In Wisconsin... With tax rebates and incentives it will be 9,700 in the end.
2 ton
Cincinnati, 1200ish square feet, with the water heater and humidifier: $12k
$6k 9 years ago for an 1150 sqf house. I used a local company, and I am very pleased with their service.
10K via small HVAC company, early spring 2020 before the busy season. 5 ton 2-stage/ 2 speed Goodman. Price also included all new ducts, vent boots, relocating returns.
New Daikin heat pump and a/c for 1200SF house, all new ducts, air return plenums in each bedroom and the hallway with the air handler in the attic. $18k for a permitted install in SoCal by a local installer.
We got our lennox hvac through Costco with a local dealer. Costco did 10% cash card back on the purchase. So we got 2% back from our membership and also put it on our costco credit card card for another 2% back. Our unit cost $12,000. We got $1,200 back thru costco cash card and $480 from our membership/credit card. So about $10,300 in total. We had gotten quotes from other companies before pulling the trigger on this deal (our unit was dying) with prices between $14,000-16,000. I think our unit is a 14 seer, but now the EPA requires a higher seer for installation as of 2023. The costco dealer incorporated the power rebate into our purchase price so we didnt have to do the rebate ourself.
$11k for an entire system replacement, furnace AC coil, used duct work already in the house. Upstate NY, Rheem equipment
About 5K in Alabama, both indoor and outdoor units using previous ducts. 1300 sqft house.
I did it in 2022 in central NJ. I only had a furnace so I swapped that and added AC. I got a two-stage furnace with humidifier and a single-stage AC. All together it was a little less than 12k.
We paid over 10k. Super super old system that was struggling but worked;we went with a local company that we trusted and. I highly recommend doing it before it totally shits the bed, that way you’re not suffering in 100° heat 🥵
DO THIS FIRST: search on YouTube for: installing your own AC unit.. Installing your own furnace... If your half way handy you can do this yourself.. They have step by step videos, what tools to use, etc They review trouble shooting your ac system,, it way just be something basic that needs replacing AC repair videos will tell you how to test the compressor ( it's very easy) etc They review what AC units not to buy, what furnaces not to buy. They review how to service them yourself They review how to troubleshoot, and identify the problem. So you won't get ripped off. If nothing else, it's educational
Western Suburbs of Detroit I paid $9600 6 years ago for a 96% Efficient forced air (2400sqft), a 16 seer AC, and a 40 gallon hot water heater.
Get more than just those two quotes. You need a minimum of three and hopefully at least five. I would avoid the large companies as they have lots of overhead and you pay for all of that.
I actually sell residential HVAC systems for a living. You can expect to spend anywhere from 9000-18000 for a full system, but cheaper is not always better. At the end of the day it really all depends. What’s your LABOR warranty? Are you doing single stage two stage or modulating? Where’s your market? Is it a heat pump, furnace ac combo, ac only? Are they just swapping the system or are they doing all the misc dodads that should also get done with a system change out ? Are you financing or paying outright (“free” finance is usually costed into a job and you could get anywhere from a 2-10% discount for paying cash). Any serious duct mods need to get done ? What’s messed up with your current install? Do you plan on fixing it? Basically tons of variables, someone needs to get eyes on it to give you an accurate quote.
$0. I got a grant from the Department of Energy. They replaced the full system: 2 ton heat pump (heat and AC) and air handler.
Anyone paying more than $8-10k is getting ROBBED (even this is way too high). Equipment + materials cost is <2500 in most cases and systems are installed in 24-48 hours. 6k in labor for 4-12 hours? WHAT????
Seriously, I see these posts and am shocked to all hell at these prices. I guess that’s a great industry to be in, lot of money to be made and a lot of people to take advantage of. 9k is about 3 months of take home pay for me. Not a chance in hell I can take a hit like that. That’s why I’ve been watching YouTube videos like crazy on how to do it myself.
I think $4500.