Presumably they might increase wages further to retain employees from jumping ship to other fast food restaurants and to attract higher quality employees than their competitors
They have always done that. You must really want to work there, it's not your average easy fast food job. In turn, they take really good care of you. The fact their prices have always been consistently lower than their competition is the most surprising part.
This is probably mostly from increasing supplier costs, which may be tied to the new minimum wage.
They also own their own cows and as much of their supply chain as possible. Combine that with a very small tight menu and their burgers patty’s are only 2oz. There is a reason why their locations are consistently slammed all the time.
A big difference between private and public is if the company is profiting a healthy amount that makes the founder extremely wealthy and protects the company against collapse, a well adjusted person would be pretty happy with that setup. We profited 100mil last year and 95mil this year? That’s a lot of money! Great!
However with public companies, their main concern becomes their stock price, which is much more volatile and susceptible to human interpretation. Make 2% less money than last year due to whatever problems? Stock price tanks, investors are not happy, now you have to appease a lot more than just yourself. So these private companies have to be infinitely growing at a rate faster than inflation, to the point where there is no choice for them than to reduce the quality of their products significantly and cut wages etc in order to make sure their margin constantly gets higher.
Private companies can find a rate of growth they’re happy with, and once the people running the show are fulfilled and happy with their operation, they don’t NEED to cut their morals and screw their customers and employees over in order to make Wall Street happy
Great write up.
Also In&Out isn’t a franchise system / real estate company masquerading as a restaurant like McDonald’s.
They sell burgers. They make money from selling burgers. Anything that impairs moving burgers is bad so a good well trained staff is important. The way you get that is with wages that out compete everyone else in the sector.
McDonald’s sells franchises. Then you pay them rent on the building. Then they sell you the franchisee burgers.
Whether you can resell the burgers to the customer is not their problem. As long as you are paying McDonalds they don’t care. The only way to make money in this scheme is to always minimize costs, meaning labor.
McDonald’s will also continually fuck with your operation by issuing new mandatory menu items (Breakfast, Chicken Nuggets, Fajitas, McDLT, Fish Sandwich, McRib). You need to have the new Happy Meal toy every week. Oh sorry we aren’t serving customers at the register any more better install kiosks (that you pay for) and deliver to tables (taking staff away from the drive thru and kitchen). Your restaurant looks old, everyone switch over to the new building model that you pay for not us.
In&Out doesn’t do any of this. No new menu items ever but feel free to sell what we already have on a remix “secret menu”. No kiosk. No table delivery. No toys, no kids meals. They can eat burgers and fries like everyone else. Have a paper hat, there’s your toy.
Staff does two things: cook food and take orders. Prices are low because the company is ruthlessly efficient with the supply chain. They will literally not open restaurants if it stretches the supply chain.
Why would any of them want to jump ship? They have ten people doing the job of five in other fast food places. They can go if they want but they will be doing the work of 2 in and out employees
In N Out does not do the franchise model. They own all of their restaurants. The franchise model injects quite a bit of cost overhead and that is passed onto the customer.
Makes me think of a *hilarous* post by that end wokeness guy going “California started paying fast food workers 20$/hr, and you’ll never guess what happened next…”
And it’s a picture of the in n out menu before and after the wages, and prices have changed by like 5-10 cents. I just think it’s so fucking funny because he literally could have made his point *anywhere* else, but he choose the absolute worst place possible.
Also McDonald has been replacing workers with AI/automation but in n out there’s like 20 people working at the busy times yet their prices are still half. Straight up just corporate greed.
It really pisses me off when people are like this, because they’ll say something like that to me and I’ll be like yeah I’m glad that they raised the prices to pay the employees more. Then the person’s response is always something along the lines of you’re just saying that because you must be rich so I guess you can afford it anyway. Like the only possibilities are I’m a fast food worker or I’m some Warren Buffett type, it’s not possible to be a white collar worker with empathy.
Yet, if I had opposed the wage increases, I’m still the bad guy. Some people just like to complain.
Red Robin still has $9.99 Tavern Burger with fries. Drink is extra.
Some McDonalds pricing just doesn’t make sense though— my closest store has
$9.99 for Double Qtr Pounder with Cheese Dlx Meal
$10.59 for Qtr Pounder with Cheese Dlx Meal
I remember a coworker would always order the double quarter pounder and ask for a second bun. I’ll have to try this.
Those are also good too. IHOP used to allow ordering online, today it varies by location, but when I find one that does HoppyHour take-out, I’ll usually get a burger or BLT, and $6 for the ham and cheese omelette (with pancakes) for the AM.
Can’t beat that price!
Actually it shows the results of production costs as it relates to profit.
I understand that for about 20 years westerners have not been taught that everything has a cost associated with it.
Money isn’t free
THe half the staff is the reality. To keep payroll the same they just fire the staff and it doesn't matter there are people making a few extra dollars. The company is still paying the same per shift. To that end I have seen a few fast food places go to a voice recognition on the drive through. I'm sure that allows them to cut one person at least. So to he people that thought they were going to help workers, they just got a bunch of workers fired, the ones that still have jobs have more work, and are not getting all that much more pay. They will also be much further from their first raise as everyone is getting more so less ability to reward good employees.
Yes the reason is money. The company that makes the machine for mcdonalds gives kick backs to the corporate which forces the small operators to use their machine. They then make the machine very easy to screw up things like cleaning cycles which take down the machine until a overpriced tech can drive out and 'fix' (reset) it. This is so well known that a third party started selling a device that owner/operator/franchisees could addon to the ice cream machine to monitor and prevent these expensive service calls. Of course the manufacturer and McDonalds corporate has sued that company for hacking their machine aka just monitoring it to stop them from working so well.
The best part is that the same company makes ice cream machines for most other fast food restaurants. Yet those have no where near the same failure rates. The difference is their corporate isn't getting kickbacks to buy 'cheap' machines only to drive up the price with service calls. They pay full price for a machine that works all the time.
McDonalds leadership knows exactly what's going on and they know you will still buy food if the shake machine is broken. But if they can't take orders they are only going to lose money. You can be sure that will work 100% of the time.
If they could eliminate that position it wouldn't matter what they have to pay them. They already crack the whip and try and offer the least product/service the customer/employee will tolerate. Something something free market efficiency.
When you increase the cost to the company for workers then many calculations that take those costs into account can change. Personally I don't know if the automated window is better than a live person. The recording is much easier to hear than many people that work in fast food but I don't know it will handle problems as well. Suppose you order something they can't serve right then as they are out of stock, will the computer handle that as well as a person? If you want or need to customize your order for an allergy or a diabetic will they be so sure the robot can handle it well? Of course people can also make mistakes but we are often ready to catch human error where arguing with a machine might be out of scope of what it can do. Now I believe they can still step in when required but its a different experience and I'm not sure its better or worse yet. If an owner/operator is going to be forced to spend thousands more each year then that is a lot of money they can turn around and use to invest in automation. Yes at some point automation will be so cheap that it will happen unless you choose to pay for more for human service (see in&out). But increasing costs by the government is just pouring fuel on that fire. The clear fact is that there are more people out sharply out of work as all companies were forced to make this change. Where in a typical market system these changes happen across the board but on the their own time schedule so the labor market can absorb those changes better.
McDonald’s is wack. Went to Culver’s the other day. 2 bacon burgers one being a double, fries, cheese curds, and buffalo chicken fingers and it was only $22 way better food and McDonald’s in my area would have likely cost more for that much.
In N Out is not like other franchises. They won’t build a restaurant further 2-3 hours from their distribution center. Makes everything that much more fresh and reduces the overhead a lot. Less transportation needs = lowers costs.
Awhile back they were offering half off gift cards so I bought $100 for $50, only thing I use it for is grabbing a quick lunch/snack by using their “half priced kids meal” reward that shows up every other day in the app. This brings my cost to $1.67 after tax for a little burger, fries, and coke. Fuck you Carl’s Jr, I make the rules now lol
It's clickbait because there is no actual story here. There's been a slight uptick in prices for the chain, however, it has NOTHING to do with increasing wages since they already paid $20/hr to their employees.
False.
“On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News.”
https://abcnews.go.com/food/story/confirms-price-double-double-menu-items/?id=111053612
They were also not paying an average of $20 an hour either.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/In-N-Out-Burger-Salary-in-Los-Angeles,CA
Considering everything you said in the comment I replied to was false, I feel like that’s a really good example of propaganda.
I would view these claims with skepticism.
[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-industry-claims-california-181056511.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-industry-claims-california-181056511.html)
Yes let’s listen to the company directly:
"On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News.
https://abcnews.go.com/food/story/confirms-price-double-double-menu-items/?id=111053612
Well the law is why their costs went up so it makes sense to point to the law as the reason their costs went up. It’s less using it as cover and more just describing the exact thing that made your costs go up.
The prices took into effect in April where the average wage was already 20-22. The increases arent even that much. Now what these other companies were doing is just plain old price gouging. They just used the minimum wage mandate as an excuse to raise prices even more.
It was inevitable. I was telling someone yesterday how basic fast food like In 'n Out and McDonald's are not super high priced like the places that cost $15 for a burger and fries.
Either way, do I pay someone else $20/hour to do it or buy it myself from Costco and Sprouts and pay less than $5? Easy answer, fast food as we know it is going away.
Well the person working in fast food needs $20hr just to pay rent. NIMBYism and greedy landlords combined with ice deporting the people willing to work for Pennies has its consequences.
Not sure why it’s difficult to comprehend their incredible prices. They don’t answer to stock holders. keeping it private helps the employees and customers win.
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In-N-Out disagrees with you.
“On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News.”
Fast food prices have been raised 200% in the last 5 years. I like how they are suddenly being caused by a wage increase. If that’s true why are prices rising in Missouri?
the mouthpieces for big corporate said wage increases would cause food price increases
then big corporate increased food prices without increasing wages
thanks california for making big corporate do the bare minimum
In-n-out was always one of the places that actually paid a decent wage. The minimum wage increase probably affected them less than any other fast food chain, but their owners are notoriously conservative, and this is a huge talking point for fox news and the conservative movement.
I work at an Arby’s in NY (not the city) and they’ve raised the prices 5 times since the beginning of the year and we’re about to have another price increase in a few weeks. You know what hasn’t gone up? My employees’ and my own wages. It’s a joke. Find a better job? Sure let me find one that pays $17.80/hr near me. I can’t afford to take a pay cut and nothing around me is offering more that I can physically get to.
Yah I lived in Kingston and my rent doubled thanks to all the NYC work from home people moving up there and I couldn’t find dishwashers even offering $18hr because that’s simply not enough money for them to afford an apartment. I mean it was until the gentrification hit but it’s not like they built any new housing for the working class to move into. Only restaurant jobs you can survive on are bartending and waiting because the tips will have you making more then even the head chef.
Big 🖕 to McDeez Nutz. In n Out is the only fast food burger I eat now. I expected a price increase thanks to the shortsighted thinking of the current leadership, but I will happily pay additional cash for that burger.
In n out has always played the game fairly, paid well, reasonable prices, consistent quality. Like costco I'm always going to be a customer of in n out
When people say company will do XYZ to lower costs specifically because something increased. Like they kept Bob but now Bob is more expensive so off goes Bob. I guess the company was keeping Bob to be nice? Have they ever known or interacted with people with anti-social personality traits? They'ld push orphan cancer children in front of a bus if it made the share price go up. Leadership self selects and how you get up there is clambering over others. It's what the system rewards and reinforces.
Haven't they had the $20 min wage for a long time though? $10 for a double cheeseburger meal isn't that bad. Go to any other place and it's like $15 for the meal for much lesser quality.
I have no issue paying in and out a bit more. They have always paid better than the other joints and delivered quality at a good price.
Now Mcdonalds can just fuck right off.
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I’m pretty sure this is possibly because in and out doesn’t franchise and they are funded by corporate.
Most fast food franchisees I know of are kind of left to fend for themselves after the initial startup.
The price isn't "due to higher wages".
They can afford higher wages. The price is due to capitalistic greed and the economically baked-in need to always make MORE than the last year or fail.
The decision to fuck the consumer and the worker is just that - a decision. With this business actively expanding to other states, it's clear that they're not struggling.
Tired of articles and headlines blaming min wage workers for coorporations DECISION to turn gluttonous profit at the detriment to the consumer and worker.
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It’s an old picture, from like 2008 era. The price for my double double meal only went up like .50 cents max from prior to our $20 minimum wage increase.
In N Out is not like other franchises. They won’t build a restaurant further 2-3 hours from their distribution center. Makes everything that much more fresh and reduces the overhead a lot. Less transportation needs = lowers costs.
The picture ABC7 used too is clearly old as fuck, the price raise is barely higher than what it already was
Just straight up gaslighting people with that image
I remember all the hype about that place. Then I ate there.
It was....fine. Perfectly...there. Totally....OK.
Would I give a single solitary fuck if I never ate there again? No.
"But, it's better than McDonalds!"
OK. Not even sure I agree, but I'd also not give a single solitary fuck if I ever ate at McDs again.
Lol, my family just visited me in CA from NC and commented how inexpensive it was for 5 people to eat there. They literally said they pay more at Taco Bell in NC.
In n Out already paid their employees over $20 before this nonsense
Presumably they might increase wages further to retain employees from jumping ship to other fast food restaurants and to attract higher quality employees than their competitors
I would rather Pay In N Out and their employees more than McDonalds.
Amen , i only stop at mc ds for coffee
They have always done that. You must really want to work there, it's not your average easy fast food job. In turn, they take really good care of you. The fact their prices have always been consistently lower than their competition is the most surprising part. This is probably mostly from increasing supplier costs, which may be tied to the new minimum wage.
They are not a publicly traded company so they don't have to answer nonsense.
They also own their own cows and as much of their supply chain as possible. Combine that with a very small tight menu and their burgers patty’s are only 2oz. There is a reason why their locations are consistently slammed all the time.
Probably one of the biggest factors ⬆️
I work for a private company and we still want to make profits though.
Of course. In-N-Out does, the headline is misleading.
A big difference between private and public is if the company is profiting a healthy amount that makes the founder extremely wealthy and protects the company against collapse, a well adjusted person would be pretty happy with that setup. We profited 100mil last year and 95mil this year? That’s a lot of money! Great! However with public companies, their main concern becomes their stock price, which is much more volatile and susceptible to human interpretation. Make 2% less money than last year due to whatever problems? Stock price tanks, investors are not happy, now you have to appease a lot more than just yourself. So these private companies have to be infinitely growing at a rate faster than inflation, to the point where there is no choice for them than to reduce the quality of their products significantly and cut wages etc in order to make sure their margin constantly gets higher. Private companies can find a rate of growth they’re happy with, and once the people running the show are fulfilled and happy with their operation, they don’t NEED to cut their morals and screw their customers and employees over in order to make Wall Street happy
Great write up. Also In&Out isn’t a franchise system / real estate company masquerading as a restaurant like McDonald’s. They sell burgers. They make money from selling burgers. Anything that impairs moving burgers is bad so a good well trained staff is important. The way you get that is with wages that out compete everyone else in the sector. McDonald’s sells franchises. Then you pay them rent on the building. Then they sell you the franchisee burgers. Whether you can resell the burgers to the customer is not their problem. As long as you are paying McDonalds they don’t care. The only way to make money in this scheme is to always minimize costs, meaning labor. McDonald’s will also continually fuck with your operation by issuing new mandatory menu items (Breakfast, Chicken Nuggets, Fajitas, McDLT, Fish Sandwich, McRib). You need to have the new Happy Meal toy every week. Oh sorry we aren’t serving customers at the register any more better install kiosks (that you pay for) and deliver to tables (taking staff away from the drive thru and kitchen). Your restaurant looks old, everyone switch over to the new building model that you pay for not us. In&Out doesn’t do any of this. No new menu items ever but feel free to sell what we already have on a remix “secret menu”. No kiosk. No table delivery. No toys, no kids meals. They can eat burgers and fries like everyone else. Have a paper hat, there’s your toy. Staff does two things: cook food and take orders. Prices are low because the company is ruthlessly efficient with the supply chain. They will literally not open restaurants if it stretches the supply chain.
They have no debt either
Who on earth is jumping ship from In and Out to any other poorly rated national chain?
Why would any of them want to jump ship? They have ten people doing the job of five in other fast food places. They can go if they want but they will be doing the work of 2 in and out employees
In N Out does not do the franchise model. They own all of their restaurants. The franchise model injects quite a bit of cost overhead and that is passed onto the customer.
I suspect the increase to the minimum wage is also increasing the demand for their product.
Still not enough
Makes me think of a *hilarous* post by that end wokeness guy going “California started paying fast food workers 20$/hr, and you’ll never guess what happened next…” And it’s a picture of the in n out menu before and after the wages, and prices have changed by like 5-10 cents. I just think it’s so fucking funny because he literally could have made his point *anywhere* else, but he choose the absolute worst place possible.
Also McDonald has been replacing workers with AI/automation but in n out there’s like 20 people working at the busy times yet their prices are still half. Straight up just corporate greed.
Exactly
It really pisses me off when people are like this, because they’ll say something like that to me and I’ll be like yeah I’m glad that they raised the prices to pay the employees more. Then the person’s response is always something along the lines of you’re just saying that because you must be rich so I guess you can afford it anyway. Like the only possibilities are I’m a fast food worker or I’m some Warren Buffett type, it’s not possible to be a white collar worker with empathy. Yet, if I had opposed the wage increases, I’m still the bad guy. Some people just like to complain.
Which was above minimum wage, this wage inflation will have an impact on them as they will be forced to pay more to retain their better quality staff.
They have paid around that since the 90s.
Do you understand VAT and how it works?
This just highlights how much of a ripoff other fast food burger joints are. In n Out pays better and has higher quality. They aren’t the problem.
Agree $10 for a double chz burger meal is not bad in 2024
Red Robin still has $9.99 Tavern Burger with fries. Drink is extra. Some McDonalds pricing just doesn’t make sense though— my closest store has $9.99 for Double Qtr Pounder with Cheese Dlx Meal $10.59 for Qtr Pounder with Cheese Dlx Meal I remember a coworker would always order the double quarter pounder and ask for a second bun. I’ll have to try this.
Chili's has 10.99 3 for me and includes fries and a drink IHOP has I hoppy hours that's $8 not including drink
Those are also good too. IHOP used to allow ordering online, today it varies by location, but when I find one that does HoppyHour take-out, I’ll usually get a burger or BLT, and $6 for the ham and cheese omelette (with pancakes) for the AM. Can’t beat that price!
Still kinda sounds crazy
Agreed, good on them for respecting their employees
Actually it shows the results of production costs as it relates to profit. I understand that for about 20 years westerners have not been taught that everything has a cost associated with it. Money isn’t free
Westerners really don’t understand economics in general
lol mcdonalds costs more and is worse
They have a new strategy, double the price, half the volume, half the staff, same profit.
No no, 105% increase in price. Gatta have that extra 5%
For real last time I went to in n out there was like 20 people working there with McDonald’s maybe like 5 and their prices are double.
THe half the staff is the reality. To keep payroll the same they just fire the staff and it doesn't matter there are people making a few extra dollars. The company is still paying the same per shift. To that end I have seen a few fast food places go to a voice recognition on the drive through. I'm sure that allows them to cut one person at least. So to he people that thought they were going to help workers, they just got a bunch of workers fired, the ones that still have jobs have more work, and are not getting all that much more pay. They will also be much further from their first raise as everyone is getting more so less ability to reward good employees.
The last thing McDonalds needs is more tech. There's a reason the ice cream machine stays broken for so long.
Yes the reason is money. The company that makes the machine for mcdonalds gives kick backs to the corporate which forces the small operators to use their machine. They then make the machine very easy to screw up things like cleaning cycles which take down the machine until a overpriced tech can drive out and 'fix' (reset) it. This is so well known that a third party started selling a device that owner/operator/franchisees could addon to the ice cream machine to monitor and prevent these expensive service calls. Of course the manufacturer and McDonalds corporate has sued that company for hacking their machine aka just monitoring it to stop them from working so well. The best part is that the same company makes ice cream machines for most other fast food restaurants. Yet those have no where near the same failure rates. The difference is their corporate isn't getting kickbacks to buy 'cheap' machines only to drive up the price with service calls. They pay full price for a machine that works all the time. McDonalds leadership knows exactly what's going on and they know you will still buy food if the shake machine is broken. But if they can't take orders they are only going to lose money. You can be sure that will work 100% of the time.
If they could eliminate that position it wouldn't matter what they have to pay them. They already crack the whip and try and offer the least product/service the customer/employee will tolerate. Something something free market efficiency.
When you increase the cost to the company for workers then many calculations that take those costs into account can change. Personally I don't know if the automated window is better than a live person. The recording is much easier to hear than many people that work in fast food but I don't know it will handle problems as well. Suppose you order something they can't serve right then as they are out of stock, will the computer handle that as well as a person? If you want or need to customize your order for an allergy or a diabetic will they be so sure the robot can handle it well? Of course people can also make mistakes but we are often ready to catch human error where arguing with a machine might be out of scope of what it can do. Now I believe they can still step in when required but its a different experience and I'm not sure its better or worse yet. If an owner/operator is going to be forced to spend thousands more each year then that is a lot of money they can turn around and use to invest in automation. Yes at some point automation will be so cheap that it will happen unless you choose to pay for more for human service (see in&out). But increasing costs by the government is just pouring fuel on that fire. The clear fact is that there are more people out sharply out of work as all companies were forced to make this change. Where in a typical market system these changes happen across the board but on the their own time schedule so the labor market can absorb those changes better.
McDonald’s is wack. Went to Culver’s the other day. 2 bacon burgers one being a double, fries, cheese curds, and buffalo chicken fingers and it was only $22 way better food and McDonald’s in my area would have likely cost more for that much.
Combos cost $10 bucks at any fast food joint here in West Virginia. $8 minimum wage. Funny how it’s actually corporate greed 😜
In n out is considerably cheaper than most places. Have you ever been? It’s comparable to 5 guys but at least half the price. It’s awesome
It’s not comparable to five guys at all but it is at least half the price
Haha well that’s a whole ass bag of worms were opening if we want to debate that
I hate how corporate greed forces you to buy fast food combo meals. Those sneaky bastards.
I don’t buy them anymore. Because they are over priced
Tell me who’s paying you to defend them so I can leave a good review, 5/5 stars.
an education in economics
In N Out is not like other franchises. They won’t build a restaurant further 2-3 hours from their distribution center. Makes everything that much more fresh and reduces the overhead a lot. Less transportation needs = lowers costs.
Their prices are still going to be cheaper than carls junior which is literal trash.
Idk how carls is still in business.I don’t know anyone that eats there.
I think most of the Carls Jrs disappeared from San Antonio. They were charging these 2024 inflation prices in 2014.
Awhile back they were offering half off gift cards so I bought $100 for $50, only thing I use it for is grabbing a quick lunch/snack by using their “half priced kids meal” reward that shows up every other day in the app. This brings my cost to $1.67 after tax for a little burger, fries, and coke. Fuck you Carl’s Jr, I make the rules now lol
Still love my Western Bacon Cheeseburger which I have once a year on my road trips.
Great sandwich, just wish they would sanity check themselves on pricing. Makes sense that you only have it on your road trip.
The higher price is due to companies refusing to take less of a profit.
The higher price is due to dummies who are willing to pay it.
Even after the price increase they are still cheaper and way better quality than McDonald's.
The increase was something like $0.50. People need to calm down with this clickbait.
Clickbait? The title literally only says "price increases coming to in n out". If it said 500% rise in prices, thats clickbait.
The bait is a picture with prices from like 20 years ago
It really is, I worked for In-N-Out years ago and the prices were still above the image. Someone really went through their phot albums for that one.
It's clickbait because there is no actual story here. There's been a slight uptick in prices for the chain, however, it has NOTHING to do with increasing wages since they already paid $20/hr to their employees.
False. “On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News.” https://abcnews.go.com/food/story/confirms-price-double-double-menu-items/?id=111053612
I guess you’ve never heard of propoganda
They were also not paying an average of $20 an hour either. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/In-N-Out-Burger-Salary-in-Los-Angeles,CA Considering everything you said in the comment I replied to was false, I feel like that’s a really good example of propaganda.
Weren’t they already paying more than what the new law says?
I would view these claims with skepticism. [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-industry-claims-california-181056511.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-industry-claims-california-181056511.html)
how dare you try to fact check when we have a narrative to push, smh. /s
The picture featured here doesn't even make sense, fries haven't been $1.35 for years.
They're using an old photo to fear monger. the highest increase was 25 cents per double double.
Yes let’s listen to the company directly: "On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News. https://abcnews.go.com/food/story/confirms-price-double-double-menu-items/?id=111053612
Right. They’re lying.
Nah it’s just basic math. Costs go up prices go up.
Did you read the article? Companies are using the law as cover.
Well the law is why their costs went up so it makes sense to point to the law as the reason their costs went up. It’s less using it as cover and more just describing the exact thing that made your costs go up.
In-N-Out's costs didn't go up due to the law, that's what they're lying about.
In&Out is definitely the most affordable fast food burger chain on the west coast. I don’t eat fast food often but if I do it’s In&Out 9/10.
The prices took into effect in April where the average wage was already 20-22. The increases arent even that much. Now what these other companies were doing is just plain old price gouging. They just used the minimum wage mandate as an excuse to raise prices even more.
The idiot Jesse Waters on Fox saying people who make $20/hour are now making 100 grand a year.
$20/hour at only 77.5 hours per week (assuming 1.5x time after 40 hours) will get you to $100k, so... I guess its *possible*.
It was inevitable. I was telling someone yesterday how basic fast food like In 'n Out and McDonald's are not super high priced like the places that cost $15 for a burger and fries. Either way, do I pay someone else $20/hour to do it or buy it myself from Costco and Sprouts and pay less than $5? Easy answer, fast food as we know it is going away.
Well the person working in fast food needs $20hr just to pay rent. NIMBYism and greedy landlords combined with ice deporting the people willing to work for Pennies has its consequences.
This happened months ago, people. And if you dig a little further, you'll find out in n out was already paying their workers a decent wage.
In-N-Out isn’t getting more valuable. Dollars are just getting less valuable.
Not sure why it’s difficult to comprehend their incredible prices. They don’t answer to stock holders. keeping it private helps the employees and customers win.
A McDonald’s in South Carolina is only $1-$2 cheaper than one in San Francisco. Please explain to me how this is a wage issue.
If you pay more for something, you need to earn more to cover that increased cost. Does that make sense?
In and out was already paying $20 before the mandatory minimum wage hike, so is in and out planning to pay employees $22?
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In n out already paid a high wage, and recent increases to the minimum wage didn’t effect the chain—- that wouldn’t do it-
Wages go up prices go up taxes go up! You people must all be public educated
In-N-Out disagrees with you. “On April 1st, we raised prices in California restaurants to accompany a raise given to the Associates at those locations," In-N-Out Burger Chief Operating Officer Denny Warnick said in an emailed statement to ABC News.”
Fast food prices have been raised 200% in the last 5 years. I like how they are suddenly being caused by a wage increase. If that’s true why are prices rising in Missouri?
Increased costs for the parts to make the food.
the mouthpieces for big corporate said wage increases would cause food price increases then big corporate increased food prices without increasing wages thanks california for making big corporate do the bare minimum
Why can't people cook for themselves? Fast food is bad and bad for you.
Oh wow, I never thought of it that way!
a Double Double in Las Vegas is $6.05 plus tax......California is cheap as f
This photo is about 10 years old and in n out in CA basically costs double this now.
I know Lynsi Snyder very recently said she’s fighting hard against price increases, so I’m gonna wait for an official announcement.
oh no... consequences.... anyways...
In-n-out was always one of the places that actually paid a decent wage. The minimum wage increase probably affected them less than any other fast food chain, but their owners are notoriously conservative, and this is a huge talking point for fox news and the conservative movement.
That’s how it should be, if u pay your workers more prices have to go up , anyone who knows how a business works shouldn’t be mad or surprised
And if landlords raise rents businesses have to raise wages. Just basic capitalist economics.
THANKS OBAMA
I work at an Arby’s in NY (not the city) and they’ve raised the prices 5 times since the beginning of the year and we’re about to have another price increase in a few weeks. You know what hasn’t gone up? My employees’ and my own wages. It’s a joke. Find a better job? Sure let me find one that pays $17.80/hr near me. I can’t afford to take a pay cut and nothing around me is offering more that I can physically get to.
Yah I lived in Kingston and my rent doubled thanks to all the NYC work from home people moving up there and I couldn’t find dishwashers even offering $18hr because that’s simply not enough money for them to afford an apartment. I mean it was until the gentrification hit but it’s not like they built any new housing for the working class to move into. Only restaurant jobs you can survive on are bartending and waiting because the tips will have you making more then even the head chef.
don’t think it’s just wages increasing prices
I eat there very infrequently because it's not the best kind of food to eat often. they can hike the price. It's worth it.
The only company that is justified in its price increase.
Big 🖕 to McDeez Nutz. In n Out is the only fast food burger I eat now. I expected a price increase thanks to the shortsighted thinking of the current leadership, but I will happily pay additional cash for that burger.
The picture is not a recent photo of their older prices lol.
JFC why did I have to scroll this far to find this?!?. PEOPLE THESE ARE NOT THE CURRENT PRICES THIS PICTURE IS SUPER OLD!!!!!
Oh well time to take in n out of my list, it was good while it lasted
In N Out raised their prices $.13 stfu haters
Labor is a factor into cost of goods, so not shocking.
Creeping closer to Five Guys prices
10,000 people have lost their jobs in CA because of this minimum wage hike. Newsom is an absolute moron. CA is dying.
How old is that picture in the post?
Its still the best deal , At least your paying for real food
Why are they pretending it has anything to do with wages? It doesn't.
I’m guessing it’s because it definitely has to do with wages.
Still cheaper than McDonald’s
They better get ready to see less foot traffic and falling behind on their bills
This happened in April and their foot traffic has increased since.
In n out is top tier.
Building back better!!
In n out has always played the game fairly, paid well, reasonable prices, consistent quality. Like costco I'm always going to be a customer of in n out
The burgers were already at like $5
In n out has always paid more than $20/hr tho
They already came. It was like 12-18¢ up
The ceo of in and out is worth 6.7 billion. They can pay everyone 20$ and hour and she will still make billions.
What did yall expect would happen? For the company to make less? …naw the buck gets passed 🤦🏻♂️
My local restaurants are getting even more greedy, asking $19 for a chicken sandwich, $21 for corned beef. Take a hike! Their dining rooms are empty.
Was in CA last month. They should raise prices for the quality they produce.
When people say company will do XYZ to lower costs specifically because something increased. Like they kept Bob but now Bob is more expensive so off goes Bob. I guess the company was keeping Bob to be nice? Have they ever known or interacted with people with anti-social personality traits? They'ld push orphan cancer children in front of a bus if it made the share price go up. Leadership self selects and how you get up there is clambering over others. It's what the system rewards and reinforces.
Haven't they had the $20 min wage for a long time though? $10 for a double cheeseburger meal isn't that bad. Go to any other place and it's like $15 for the meal for much lesser quality.
Still cheaper than eating at Five Guys here in the Midwest
$10 for burger, fries and drink sounds fairly reasonable
Whatsup with the corporate propaganda?
You mean math?
I have no issue paying in and out a bit more. They have always paid better than the other joints and delivered quality at a good price. Now Mcdonalds can just fuck right off.
Still cheaper than all the fast food places in Florida
You voted for it! In n out is disgusting!
Why did they use an outdated menu? Nothing is anywhere near 10 bucks.
Those are good burgers, Walter
I don’t know how old this picture is, but the prices are double that now.
"amid rising wages" Fuck off
The World Bank upgraded its outlook for the global economy and said the “impressive” U.S. economy is powering the world. The latest outlook estimates the global economy will expand 2.6 percent, an increase from the 2.4 percent growth predicted for the year.
This is just business 101. Labor costs go up, the cost of there goods and services go up. Rising costs will ALWAYS be passed along to the customer.
Yes, and the political party that raises those wages doesn’t suffer the consequences. We do the people.
That’s it. I’m moving to California
Next will be ordering kiosks.
I’m pretty sure this is possibly because in and out doesn’t franchise and they are funded by corporate. Most fast food franchisees I know of are kind of left to fend for themselves after the initial startup.
The price isn't "due to higher wages". They can afford higher wages. The price is due to capitalistic greed and the economically baked-in need to always make MORE than the last year or fail. The decision to fuck the consumer and the worker is just that - a decision. With this business actively expanding to other states, it's clear that they're not struggling. Tired of articles and headlines blaming min wage workers for coorporations DECISION to turn gluttonous profit at the detriment to the consumer and worker.
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Nah it’s the higher wages. Basic math.
"Main stream media is attacking in n out for corporate scum" is all I saw. F you Ronald! You're food is garbage!
And? Prices have gone up nationwide at every restaurant for the last 3 years with minimal changes in wages.
Got keep those shareholders fed
It’s a privately owned company.
The combo have been over $10 for the longest time. I never recall #1 being $6
This board is fake af or I'm missing something.
It’s an old picture, from like 2008 era. The price for my double double meal only went up like .50 cents max from prior to our $20 minimum wage increase.
Ok I thought something was off because I'm In Detroit and the fast food prices here are insane so I know it's bad in California
Wow I thought this sign was from the 90s. McDonald's here is at least 50% more expensive than the soon to come new pricing of in n out...
This is a very very old menu board. I was there last week. These were not the prices.
In N Out is not like other franchises. They won’t build a restaurant further 2-3 hours from their distribution center. Makes everything that much more fresh and reduces the overhead a lot. Less transportation needs = lowers costs.
They pay $22 an hour now and their double double combo just slightly broke $10. Prices went up like .20 cents. Not bad at all
Teach em a lesson. Stop going to in n out!
The prices went up like a couple cents compared to all of the other fast food restaurants prices going up by almost double.
These are amazing prices
Yeah the ONLY COST to have risen since in and out opened was wages.
If it's rising wages versus corp greed, I will take the increases due to worker wages any day.
I’m pretty old and been going to in n out for years when was a double double 3.05$ like 1985?
This is an obvious lie. That photo is from 20 years ago. This is anti minimum wage propaganda, please don’t fall for it
The picture ABC7 used too is clearly old as fuck, the price raise is barely higher than what it already was Just straight up gaslighting people with that image
Wages lag inflation, not create it
I remember all the hype about that place. Then I ate there. It was....fine. Perfectly...there. Totally....OK. Would I give a single solitary fuck if I never ate there again? No. "But, it's better than McDonalds!" OK. Not even sure I agree, but I'd also not give a single solitary fuck if I ever ate at McDs again.
I am in Ventura County, California. The current price for a burger is 3.69 and a double-double is 5.89. Fries are 2.79. Starting pay is $22 per hour.
Meanwhile 5 Guys is charging $25 for a similar meal
Lol, my family just visited me in CA from NC and commented how inexpensive it was for 5 people to eat there. They literally said they pay more at Taco Bell in NC.
Are those seriously the prices you pay in California? Thats not even close to what we pay in Vegas.
For real, double double in vegas is $6...California is cheap as f