Last year, I did it in late Feb/early March cause it was unseasonably warm here in PA, and I had great success. Plus, the area has a good bit of shade cover.
Same here this year. It was like 80+ during g an early February week, and I took full advantage of dethatching and over seeding the yard. Worked out flawless. Plus, we're at like a 15-inch surplus of rain this season already
That rainfall is crazy. I think, on average, it works out better in the fall, but depending on the local climate and varying factors like shade, etc. It can work out decently well in the early spring as well.
But if you're trying to grow an entire lawn from scratch with absolutely no shade, probably no bueno.
I feel like that's region dependent. In the PNW every fall I try to seed we get an early frost that fucks shit up. I have had much better luck with rainy spring.
I had to overseed this spring , but I fully know I will be returning in the fall to seed some more. We had a wet warm winter and the dog caused a lot of bare spots just running.
Overseeded last fall….fescue. Was looking good but German Shorthaired pointers are rough on grass. Lost some, not all, but I knew going into it, it would never be a once and done proposition. I bought my own aerator/spreader that attaches to the back of my cub cadet mower and buy really good seed from GCI so I know I’ll be doing this every fall. Year by year…..I WILL get ahead I know. 80% of the back yard looks great….it’s just the 20% where Annika like to run the same path but over time I’m sure the grass will win out. Still looks waaay better than a year ago. I’m a 55 year old mom and nurse anesthesiologist so if I can do it…..anyone can!
I'm actually looking forward to it. I gave up the "keep the Bermuda out of my Fescue lawn" fight this past year and I'm fully embracing my new Bermuda lawn. This coming week is going to be great for the takeover of the last few remaining spots of different grass.
Zoysia will out-competed everything, but it's a VERY slow process. If you have a stand of it somewhere, I'd say a good summer (I'm in zone 7a) is it creeping about 6-8 inches.
Edit: if you want to accelerate the process, get a plugging tool and space some plugs into the area you want to convert. The more outer perimeter you can give it to work with, the quicker it will spread if that makes sense - that's to say three smaller circles will spread faster than one big circle of the same surface area.
Zoysia will spread (from experience) but not that aggressively. I have a patch in my cool-season lawn that I’d like to get rid of, and it seems like it’s barely spread over the last few years.
I sprigged zoysia into my fescue lawn about a decade ago. Year 1 I just kept the plugs alive. Year 2 they really spread. Year 3 I had a zoysia lawn. I have bermuda now because that is what was partially there when I bought the current place. I like the bermuda better for it's quick spreading, but I liked zoysia better for it's shade tolerance and feel.
Same, but converted from fescue to zoysia. Things have just been getting warmer and warmer in my zone and zoysia lawns that looked like they weren't really cared for were thriving. I resodded the back yard completely when I did a reno project and had a few strips left over. Took them and made plugs for the front yard. Been mowing super short to stress the remaining fescue and promote the zoysia to spread laterally.
When did you put the seed down?
I’ve planted grass the last two springs in SW PA, and it’s done fine (even last year, when we had a drought in May).
The secret is getting seed down in early to mid April, so that it can germinate and grow for the next 4-6 weeks before we hit Memorial Day. The very mild winters and early springs make it more feasible to do a small spring reno, if you get your seed down early enough.
Yep. I have been fighting the urge to overseed for a few weeks now, and now I'm glad I did. With this heat, waiting until September shouldn't be a problem now.
NW Ohio, already turning brown. Damnit. I plan to scalp, dethatch, aerate and overseed this fall and hope for the best next year. The next 10-14 days are going to be brutal
Dude, Lansing got HIT. Woke up at 3:30, and that goodness I did, Ring camera showed water was coming over the side, had to climb up the porch railing to toss some leaves and debris out of the gutter.
I'm in Northeast Ohio. Was pressure washing the driveway and sidewalks when the storm started. At least it cooled down for a little! My ex MIL is coming to visit on Wednesday, and we were supposed to go to the Columbus zoo. Not anymore! Not in this heat.
Where I'm at its usually very rainy and upper 80s at most this time of year, July is when the heat usually really kicks in. This weekend it was 100 both days and same for next weekend. The lowest high temp this week is 90. No rain at all in the last 10 days and none predicted for the next 10, barely even any cloud cover. It's gonna be a bad year, especially for AC bills.
I’ve always heard that, but basically every single golf course waters at night. I’ve often watered at night and never have issues with mood. Seems kind of overblown 🤷🏻
RIP brother. Mine has all died between floods and heat...the new grass had no chance.
I'm trying to save what I can before my yard turns into a dirt pump track.
We just took up 10'x10' square of pavers that the previous owners used to house six dogs. My wife asked when I was going to plant the grass and I told her October. Planting grass anytime but fall seem like a fools errand unless your dedicated with the watering several times a week.
use it after it rains (your grass should be wet) i used the liquid but they have granules. And you'll need different amounts for different things (trees, grass, flowers). The instructions are pretty straight forward and similar to other lawn applications
I think you mixed that up. Hydretain before it rains or during so that it penetrates the soil since its instructions say to water in deeply. I love the stuff. Keeps me green all summer in Dallas watering once, maybe twice a week. St Aug
I tried that last year. Put it down twice and didn’t see much difference. To be fair I live near San Antonio and we had a record number of 100° days last summer.
Hmm several lawn care YouTubers have said it makes soil less hydrophobic and breaks the surface tension so water gets deeper into the soil and retains moisture longer so you don't have to water as often during the summer.
https://youtu.be/U5DXOiTOLFI
https://youtu.be/T0SXY9OEE9g
https://youtu.be/tfgXLi5Zmf8
Good to know, I like it! I think there is a big difference in their chemical makeup as Hydretain helps the soil retain moisture directly. Where as dish soap helps loosen the soil. Which in turn can help the soil retain moisture. I use both pretty regularly - dawn as a soil loosener/conditioner a couple times a year and Hydretain to help the soil hold moisture during drought months
I am holding off the regular watering schedule this week in the hope that the poa triv which has infested my lawn is weakened (relatively), letting the rye and KBG get the edge.
Can confirm. I’m in TN. Seeded in the fall. Yard looked great in the spring. Now getting tons of brownish patches. Watering 10 min early in the morning hasn’t seemed to help Much
I did deep water yesterday and I'm doing light waterings midday to prevent heat stress. Most of it will evaporate but hopefully it will protect the grass from the worst of the heat. Made the mistake of cutting my tall fescue the night before temps rose into the 90s 😭
I'm watering for 5 minutes at 10am/2pm/5pm because I overseeded in May and my lawn is still looking great in 100° heat. I skip every 3rd day to mow in the evening and water for 15 minutes the next morning at 5am. Actually I just put down more pre-germinated seed yesterday because we have a cool stretch this week (in the 80s). Probably a waste of time but I already had the seed so why not lol
We've been in the mid 90s for 6 days now with 0 rain and barely any morning or evening dew. I've been watering twice a day and there are still spots turning brown and it's spreading. I think as of today I have surrendered and will just let it go dormant. At least I won't have to mow much in July.
Dude, I'm sitting at 94% humidity right now. Coastal life sucks this time of year. Been building a new chicken coop and run this past weekend, and it's been rough. 2 more days and I should be done....
It’s 102 here in Eastern Canada… I understood your title really well… I’m just about to throw the towel on this thing… 5 years of trying to grow grass is way too long ..
Yep. Same in the northeast. Gonna be 90’s all week. Luckily I’ve been watering consistently and I also applied a liquid potassium fert this past weekend to give it extra hardiness. Mine is still dark green from iron and like I said watering, while everyone else’s in my neighborhoods is turning brown and crispy 😆😆.
We're in the same boat in Maryland. We seeded over a month ago and it's only rained 1/2" since. It usually rains an inch a week. Watering every night only does so much in 95 degree days.
I just planted 280 Bermuda plugs a day before we sat in low to mid 90’s for around 2 weeks, all 280 are thriving. Just put in 280 more and it’s only going to be in the high 80’s for the next few days, I’m a little disappointed!
Water 3-4 times a day to keep it moist but don’t overwater. We put a new lawn down in the middle of summer. Ran my sprinklers for 5-6 min per zone 4 times a day. I was more worried about heavy downpours washing it out than I was about it drying out.
I feel your pain. Northeast Ohio and got my entire backyard hydroseeded yesterday after a large excavation project and regrading. After it dried we got a torrential downpour and I’m afraid it just washed a ton out. Mother Nature not on my side
On this topic - any suggestions? I just laid down a pallet of sod 2 days ago and pieces are turning brown
I run the sprinklers twice a day or hand water areas without sprinkler coverage
I hand water till I see water coming out of the bottom of the piece
Whyyyyy brown?
Watering at night will increase the risk of losing your lawn. Watering in the morning is highly recommended. You could even do a light watering in the afternoon to help cool the canopy.
This is my favorite time of year.
All of the wannabe lawns die off and only the truly healthy and resilient lawns stay green and continue to look good.
Healthy soil, correct height, and proper watering techniques will keep it looking good.
This is the week you can tell who has an irrigation system and probably already treated for fungus and also makes it easier to see which neighborhoods have the most money as their lawn will be green even if there are watering restrictions while we die from a drought.
>I have a strip of my backyard that I needed, leveled with sand, then overspeed Stay hydrated, y'all. Heat exhaustion fucks up your brain.
Too much heat
People under estimate how dehydrated they are! I try to make myself drink more than I think I want .
Does this work with Jack Daniels?
Also yes
Yes, but I prefer Bullet.
A man of refined taste!
Currently plan to enjoy a glass of Angels Envy after mowing the grass this evening.
You are about to learn why they recommend to plant grass seed in the fall. Lol
Ah fuck it. I do mine in February. Just in time for the wet season in Nebraska
Last year, I did it in late Feb/early March cause it was unseasonably warm here in PA, and I had great success. Plus, the area has a good bit of shade cover.
Same here this year. It was like 80+ during g an early February week, and I took full advantage of dethatching and over seeding the yard. Worked out flawless. Plus, we're at like a 15-inch surplus of rain this season already
That rainfall is crazy. I think, on average, it works out better in the fall, but depending on the local climate and varying factors like shade, etc. It can work out decently well in the early spring as well. But if you're trying to grow an entire lawn from scratch with absolutely no shade, probably no bueno.
I do it in the fall and in spring…
I feel like that's region dependent. In the PNW every fall I try to seed we get an early frost that fucks shit up. I have had much better luck with rainy spring.
I'm inland PNW, WSU even recommends spring seeding here.
I agree... i'm in utah and we can swing from 90+ to snowing the next week, it's literally impossible to time things like that in fall🥲
I had to overseed this spring , but I fully know I will be returning in the fall to seed some more. We had a wet warm winter and the dog caused a lot of bare spots just running.
Overseeded last fall….fescue. Was looking good but German Shorthaired pointers are rough on grass. Lost some, not all, but I knew going into it, it would never be a once and done proposition. I bought my own aerator/spreader that attaches to the back of my cub cadet mower and buy really good seed from GCI so I know I’ll be doing this every fall. Year by year…..I WILL get ahead I know. 80% of the back yard looks great….it’s just the 20% where Annika like to run the same path but over time I’m sure the grass will win out. Still looks waaay better than a year ago. I’m a 55 year old mom and nurse anesthesiologist so if I can do it…..anyone can!
Between young kids and the dog. I can't keep someone off it for weeks every year. So each year it just gets slightly better
I'm actually looking forward to it. I gave up the "keep the Bermuda out of my Fescue lawn" fight this past year and I'm fully embracing my new Bermuda lawn. This coming week is going to be great for the takeover of the last few remaining spots of different grass.
Is it hard to convert from fescue to Bermuda?
Lol Just allow the Bermuda to do its thing
Can the same be said w zoysia? Hoping it overtakes my cool season grass
Zoysia will out-competed everything, but it's a VERY slow process. If you have a stand of it somewhere, I'd say a good summer (I'm in zone 7a) is it creeping about 6-8 inches. Edit: if you want to accelerate the process, get a plugging tool and space some plugs into the area you want to convert. The more outer perimeter you can give it to work with, the quicker it will spread if that makes sense - that's to say three smaller circles will spread faster than one big circle of the same surface area.
Zoysia will spread (from experience) but not that aggressively. I have a patch in my cool-season lawn that I’d like to get rid of, and it seems like it’s barely spread over the last few years.
I sprigged zoysia into my fescue lawn about a decade ago. Year 1 I just kept the plugs alive. Year 2 they really spread. Year 3 I had a zoysia lawn. I have bermuda now because that is what was partially there when I bought the current place. I like the bermuda better for it's quick spreading, but I liked zoysia better for it's shade tolerance and feel.
June for me is the best month because I get a ton of sun. Plus the kids and dogs have no interest playing in the lawn because of the heat.
Same, but converted from fescue to zoysia. Things have just been getting warmer and warmer in my zone and zoysia lawns that looked like they weren't really cared for were thriving. I resodded the back yard completely when I did a reno project and had a few strips left over. Took them and made plugs for the front yard. Been mowing super short to stress the remaining fescue and promote the zoysia to spread laterally.
I’m honestly at the point of : it’s green it’s fine…
Crabgrass has entered the chat.
I hate how it does so well in the summer and how green it is. Why can’t my grass do that
It can, just make it all crab grass.
I’m way ahead of ya, lol
When did you put the seed down? I’ve planted grass the last two springs in SW PA, and it’s done fine (even last year, when we had a drought in May). The secret is getting seed down in early to mid April, so that it can germinate and grow for the next 4-6 weeks before we hit Memorial Day. The very mild winters and early springs make it more feasible to do a small spring reno, if you get your seed down early enough.
Bingo. Did it this year and the new grass is thriving like the established stuff.
This is why you deal with dirt all spring/summer and Reno in the fall....
Yep. I have been fighting the urge to overseed for a few weeks now, and now I'm glad I did. With this heat, waiting until September shouldn't be a problem now.
I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die
As long as you’re doing it in the fall you should be good
NW Ohio, already turning brown. Damnit. I plan to scalp, dethatch, aerate and overseed this fall and hope for the best next year. The next 10-14 days are going to be brutal
Yup, I’m having the same thoughts as a first time homeowner here in Chicagoland. I don’t even think it’s going to dip below 70 this week.
Bermuda stocks up
I mowed mine extra short so I wouldn't have to mow for another month
Careful. Scalping your lawn before a heatwave is a great way to make sure never have to mow it again
That's what I was hoping, I always start out wanting a decent looking yard, but then the heat hits, and my give a f**k goes right out the window.
Dang it. That's a good idea. I should have done this. Just finished mowing to 4".
Michigan got over 2.5" of rain last night, we may get spared the worst of it.
Just thunderstorms in GR last night. I've been watering for last 3 days to prep and it's still getting crispy. Just like last year.
Dude, Lansing got HIT. Woke up at 3:30, and that goodness I did, Ring camera showed water was coming over the side, had to climb up the porch railing to toss some leaves and debris out of the gutter.
About 10 minutes after I sent that we got about 5 minutes of downpour and hail. Gotta love when it gets so hot, the storms act up.
SE MI. I got a 1/2 inch
Enjoy not mowing for a while.
Will this heat at least kill all the gnats that attack my face when mowing?
I'm in Northeast Ohio. Was pressure washing the driveway and sidewalks when the storm started. At least it cooled down for a little! My ex MIL is coming to visit on Wednesday, and we were supposed to go to the Columbus zoo. Not anymore! Not in this heat.
All these one inch yards getting crispy this week. 🤣
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Water in Pittsburgh $50 per 1,000 gallons.
Mine in central CA is $34 for 20 CCF (15,000 gallons), 77 cents per additional CCF (750 gallons).
In central MN, half of my lawn is still under water from the 8+ inches of rain we’ve had since Saturday.
Keep draining the aquifer dude it’s not like we need that water for anything more important than your stupid grass
Looked like I was mowing in a dust storm this weekend with how dry everything was.
Where I'm at its usually very rainy and upper 80s at most this time of year, July is when the heat usually really kicks in. This weekend it was 100 both days and same for next weekend. The lowest high temp this week is 90. No rain at all in the last 10 days and none predicted for the next 10, barely even any cloud cover. It's gonna be a bad year, especially for AC bills.
We've got a frost warning for tonight. I hope summer eventually gets here!
Go home Southern Hemisphere, you’re drunk
Texas summers says hi
Right? This is a 110F comment and it’s still a cool 93F here.
To be fair, in Ohio he's using cool season grass which thrives in the 60's, not 90+.
The flair said warm season. He knows nothing about watering struggles lol.
Actually getting rain this summer (so far) in Houston at least
Same. We are going to get hammered this week. Held out on running the sprinklers yesterday.
Last year was so bad I don’t mind it, we don’t have issues with street flooding on my street at least so I’m fine with a few inches
Yeah it's been awesome. I've only had to run the sprinklers a couple of times over the last month
Texas use a lot of cool season grass?
Yeah but we've got Bermuda and St Augustine. As long as it gets watered, it loves this heat
Water in the late evenings or morning
I thought watering at night promotes mold?
Watering at night in this humidity is inviting fungus issues.
I’ve always heard that, but basically every single golf course waters at night. I’ve often watered at night and never have issues with mood. Seems kind of overblown 🤷🏻
Not when it’s this hot
Even extreme heat isn’t going to dry out a wet lawn very quickly when the air itself is basically saturated with water
I've had recommended (and experienced the most success by) applying water starting approximately 1hr prior to sunrise til about 45min beyond.
bentgrass nursey just started popping. I need to feed and water it this week. Bring it heat, I'm not scared.
I’m in Illannoy and it’s in the 90s this week. I got my sprinklers going, but it’s not looking good.
RIP brother. Mine has all died between floods and heat...the new grass had no chance. I'm trying to save what I can before my yard turns into a dirt pump track.
We just took up 10'x10' square of pavers that the previous owners used to house six dogs. My wife asked when I was going to plant the grass and I told her October. Planting grass anytime but fall seem like a fools errand unless your dedicated with the watering several times a week.
Get hydretain
I’m going to do a goog on this too, but can you tell me how you use it or any tips?
use it after it rains (your grass should be wet) i used the liquid but they have granules. And you'll need different amounts for different things (trees, grass, flowers). The instructions are pretty straight forward and similar to other lawn applications
I think you mixed that up. Hydretain before it rains or during so that it penetrates the soil since its instructions say to water in deeply. I love the stuff. Keeps me green all summer in Dallas watering once, maybe twice a week. St Aug
You right
I tried that last year. Put it down twice and didn’t see much difference. To be fair I live near San Antonio and we had a record number of 100° days last summer.
Dawn or baby shampoo does the same thing
Dawn or baby shampoo serves as a great surfactant, but it does not do anything to assist your lawn in holding moisture like Hydretain
Hmm several lawn care YouTubers have said it makes soil less hydrophobic and breaks the surface tension so water gets deeper into the soil and retains moisture longer so you don't have to water as often during the summer. https://youtu.be/U5DXOiTOLFI https://youtu.be/T0SXY9OEE9g https://youtu.be/tfgXLi5Zmf8
Good to know, I like it! I think there is a big difference in their chemical makeup as Hydretain helps the soil retain moisture directly. Where as dish soap helps loosen the soil. Which in turn can help the soil retain moisture. I use both pretty regularly - dawn as a soil loosener/conditioner a couple times a year and Hydretain to help the soil hold moisture during drought months
Yea that’s what I’m looking at was out of town the previous 5 days not sure if there’s any chance for it.
Yeah my grass is toast bc I don’t have sprinklers
Irrigation. Well water. Running sprinklers 5 hours a day (18 zones). Already struggling here in Oklahoma with my fescue.
5 hours a day!!!!
I am holding off the regular watering schedule this week in the hope that the poa triv which has infested my lawn is weakened (relatively), letting the rye and KBG get the edge.
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Yes
My st Agustin laughs at your 95 degrees
You seeded way to early
Im in eastern pa. My lawn will be fucked after this week.
Can confirm. I’m in TN. Seeded in the fall. Yard looked great in the spring. Now getting tons of brownish patches. Watering 10 min early in the morning hasn’t seemed to help Much
Just got my yard starting to get thicken and was really green. Now it looks dry and thin again and I’m on a well…exhausting
Load it up on potassium, iron and water heavy
Is it wise to water more frequently in these conditions? Maybe twice per day even?
I did deep water yesterday and I'm doing light waterings midday to prevent heat stress. Most of it will evaporate but hopefully it will protect the grass from the worst of the heat. Made the mistake of cutting my tall fescue the night before temps rose into the 90s 😭
I'm watering for 5 minutes at 10am/2pm/5pm because I overseeded in May and my lawn is still looking great in 100° heat. I skip every 3rd day to mow in the evening and water for 15 minutes the next morning at 5am. Actually I just put down more pre-germinated seed yesterday because we have a cool stretch this week (in the 80s). Probably a waste of time but I already had the seed so why not lol
Hydretain or Tournament Ready? I'm thinking of implementing it in my regimen this season.
Utah gets screwed on both ends of the spectrum. 100+ degree summers and sub-zero winters.
We've been in the mid 90s for 6 days now with 0 rain and barely any morning or evening dew. I've been watering twice a day and there are still spots turning brown and it's spreading. I think as of today I have surrendered and will just let it go dormant. At least I won't have to mow much in July.
I didn’t mow my front yard because I was afraid I’d kill it even mowing it tall.
This is why you wait until Labor Day!
Try watering deeper but less frequently to encourage deeper root growth and drought tolerance.
Dude, I'm sitting at 94% humidity right now. Coastal life sucks this time of year. Been building a new chicken coop and run this past weekend, and it's been rough. 2 more days and I should be done....
I seeded and re-seeded the backyard and the giant tree fell. Cleanup killed all the grass.
Admits to heatwave, keeps on waterin’
Dormant *
Laughs in bermuda
Welcome to Texas. Water 3-4 times a day til established, don’t flood it tho
It’s 102 here in Eastern Canada… I understood your title really well… I’m just about to throw the towel on this thing… 5 years of trying to grow grass is way too long ..
Half a mind to just put turf in at this point
Since when is ohio considered warm season grass
On the other hand, it’s a great time to hose down the weeds in my pavers with vinegar soap and salt.
I'm in Columbus and agree with you the grass will go dormant and hopefully come back when we get some rain
Northeast Ohio here too. This heat wave is doing a great job of showing me that I have gaps in my irrigation system.
I'm in Ohio as well, so I feel your pain. It feels like Florida out there! Heat index around 100.
Just cut mine as high as possible, right after the neighbor mowed his to the dirt. Good luck to him
NEOhio….pop-up showers are helping today. Entire backyard got an overseed Memorial Day. 😖
Yep. Same in the northeast. Gonna be 90’s all week. Luckily I’ve been watering consistently and I also applied a liquid potassium fert this past weekend to give it extra hardiness. Mine is still dark green from iron and like I said watering, while everyone else’s in my neighborhoods is turning brown and crispy 😆😆.
We're in the same boat in Maryland. We seeded over a month ago and it's only rained 1/2" since. It usually rains an inch a week. Watering every night only does so much in 95 degree days.
I just planted 280 Bermuda plugs a day before we sat in low to mid 90’s for around 2 weeks, all 280 are thriving. Just put in 280 more and it’s only going to be in the high 80’s for the next few days, I’m a little disappointed!
Water 3-4 times a day to keep it moist but don’t overwater. We put a new lawn down in the middle of summer. Ran my sprinklers for 5-6 min per zone 4 times a day. I was more worried about heavy downpours washing it out than I was about it drying out.
I feel your pain. Northeast Ohio and got my entire backyard hydroseeded yesterday after a large excavation project and regrading. After it dried we got a torrential downpour and I’m afraid it just washed a ton out. Mother Nature not on my side
Always plant grass in autumn
Put it on a timer to water more than once per day.
On this topic - any suggestions? I just laid down a pallet of sod 2 days ago and pieces are turning brown I run the sprinklers twice a day or hand water areas without sprinkler coverage I hand water till I see water coming out of the bottom of the piece Whyyyyy brown?
Might want to water in the morning also
Yeah, prolly about time the Midwest folks start converting to Bermuda.
Whose to say just another 7 days? 7 days ahead all they could tell.. I live in Indiana..
Watering at night will increase the risk of losing your lawn. Watering in the morning is highly recommended. You could even do a light watering in the afternoon to help cool the canopy.
Water at night & cut high.
Better to water right before sunrise at around 5am to prevent fungus
This is my favorite time of year. All of the wannabe lawns die off and only the truly healthy and resilient lawns stay green and continue to look good. Healthy soil, correct height, and proper watering techniques will keep it looking good.
This is the week you can tell who has an irrigation system and probably already treated for fungus and also makes it easier to see which neighborhoods have the most money as their lawn will be green even if there are watering restrictions while we die from a drought.
It’s disappointing the amount of water folks will put down to support a non native lawn. Might as well get used to these heat waves.