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alwaysmyfault

Yup, looks good! Kinda nervous for you though being that you planted in Mid June. Hopefully it survives the heat in July and August. Most people typically wait to seed until early August so that it can avoid dealing with the summer heat.


DuckyFuz

Luckily it doesn’t get too hot here during the UK summer so not too hard to keep the ground moist!


Lpeer

I grew my entire lawn in June and July of last year. Reddit is obsessed with only planting grass in August or the early spring. It's unbelievably easy to grow grass in the summer in the Midwest. And your grass has stronger roots and is better developed for winter. The parroting of misinformation on here is getting insane


Lawnqs

If you don’t do it exactly my way you’re wrong! Totally agree with you. I did a sand leveling on my St. Augustine in January despite the general consensus it should be done in summer. Yes it took a bit longer to fill in completely but it was convenient for me at the time and I didn’t have to do 8 hours of labor in 90+ degree heat. And now my lawn looks great.


wreckedmyself5653

I mean.. August is in the name. St. Augustine. It tells you when to seed it. Otherwise they should have called it St. Januarystine. /s


Lawnqs

Lol that’s another thing I love. A post about struggling St. Augustine and people say to overseed it.


SarahPallorMortis

OVALTINE!! WHY DO THEY CALL IT OVALTINE??


fetal_genocide

The jar is round, the mug is round, they should call it roundtine!


pancakefactory9

In Europe it’s called Ovomaltine because it’s a malted milk mix


SarahPallorMortis

It’s a Seinfeld joke


pancakefactory9

I was almost certain that was the reference. Thanks for confirming it 😃. I just wanted to toss in the useless information.


SarahPallorMortis

I love useless info :D


iinfamous_

Unless you live here in west Texas where you can see the smoke coming off the burnt new grass lol.


OneImagination5381

That what 1/4" of compost is for every mont for 3-4 months. You think Texas only get 90 + days with no rain. Southwest Michigan, it cooled off today to 86. July and August we us get 90+ days for a week at a time. Last week , we had 5 in June Topdress with Screened Compost.


iinfamous_

Try 110 degrees +, but you’re not wrong.


OneImagination5381

After it get 95 with 90% humidity, it isn't much difference. That is the reason why only half of my compost is down. Climate change, Texas need to keep the heat down there.


iinfamous_

And that’s why as soon as my oldest turns 18ish my wife and I are moving somewhere not so miserable. West Texas was good to us but it’s just. Ugly here.


OneImagination5381

You are welcome to Michigan but you probably won't like the winters or your politics being from a dictorship government. But then we are also, a climate change refugee state.


iinfamous_

Haha yeah I try my best to stay out of all of that and just to myself, we’ve been looking into homes around the coast of Washington - Oregon area. Getting away from a bunch of people and just enjoying the outdoors instead of this dead sad city. I have been to Michigan once before though. In Kalamazoo.


valhalla2611

I'm across the river. I always seed in September, works much better. I don't have irrigation, so the cooler nights is easier to grow.


OneImagination5381

I seed in late spring and late fall after fall cleanup. I had some compaction last year that I was not able to fix until spring so no choice this year. But usually it spread compost in the fall after cleanup and seeding then in the spring treatment and waiting for the time recommendation then seeding any thin spots. I changed my fescue mix this spring to a higher percentage of creeping red so I'm hoping that will take caremof seeding next spring.


valhalla2611

sound good. Last year I was away and had a lot of dead spots. On Labour day I spread the compost and went heavy with the kbg and PR and it filled in nicely. The warm winter helped as well.


OneImagination5381

Yep, I both love and hate this warming climate. It's nice to have a lower heating bill and to drive without 2-3' of snow and have a green lawn early. But man the bad insects have double along with the invasive botanicals. I get some control of the bittersweet and honeysuckles, etc and then they come back triple. Good.


valhalla2611

ya, the warm winter didn't help kill the weeds off. my neighbor has a crappy yard, at least a lot of the weeds die off in the winter but not this year. So I am always watching out for the crap that makes its way over to my side


InAllThingsBalance

My local cooperative extension recommended seeds be planted in early spring here (zone 9a).


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double_e5

It’s possible to grow grass from seed in the summer in the Midwest, but it is far from ideal and certainly is not even close to “unbelievable easy” in most places. Disease/fungus from all the extra water needed is a huge issue on top of the heat stress. It’s just plain easier to seed in late summer/early fall in the vast majority of places with cool season grass.


Freudianfix

North Carolina here. Disease/fungus is no joke. I was battling it well into December last year because we had such a warm, wet, and humid fall.


PlsEatMe

Same in Washington state this year! I planted when I was "supposed to," it didn't grow well until much later. Today is a "hot" day... at 78 degrees. No humidity, it's getting cold in the evenings still. Earlier it was just too cold without enough sun. Heck, my vegetable garden is only now starting to actually take off. Really depressing how short of a grow season we've got outside over here. 


Chemical_Pickle5004

Location, location, location. This would be a disaster where I am in California, for example.


HomChkn

I grew Grass in my back yard in late may so I didn't have to pay for a such water. The hard part was keeping the dogs off it. Years 5 the best part of yard. I am removing some landscaping this fall and planting grass next spring. Again dogs could be an issue. My front yard I have tried to get grass to grow for 2 different falls with a 50% success rate.


alldawgsgoat2heaven

I just sewed a 4x8 patch yesterday, come at me haterz


90nissan300zx

Same here. June 16th of '23, through the whole father's day weekend - rented a skid steer, power rake and ordered nearly 20cu. yds of top soil. Went to town tilling/raking/leveling. Spread seed and straw across 10k sq. ft Sunday night. 6 days later, grass was poking through. 2 months later, had a new, lush beautiful lawn. Watered twice every day. Got lucky on rainy days. It's been just over a year and my grass is still beautiful.


double_e5

> It's unbelievably easy to grow grass in the summer in the Midwest. And your grass has stronger roots and is better developed for winter. Insane that post like this get can get upvoted in here. Shows you how far this sub has fallen in the last few years. I’d love for you to show any sort an actual data/study/evidence that what you’re saying is the case besides “It was so easy when I did it!”.


AdAny287

Northern Wisconsin here, I can attest that planting in mid summer works just fine, 2 years ago I planted a 10x20 patch of my lawn in mid June, and it is the best looking patch of my entire lawn


Earth_Sandwhich

Plants need 100 percent correct conditions or they won’t grow. Haven’t you been outside and looked around recently?


Enxer

I'm in 7a (northern Delaware). I can echo the Reddit statement. My June seed always dies to the heat vs first week in August seed (still going). Maybe there's more variation even within the grow zone by region?


Objective-Fortune256

thanks needed to hear this.


iNeedOneMoreAquarium

>It's unbelievably easy to grow grass in the summer in the Midwest. I don't know if I'd say "unbelievably easy" to grow new grass from seed in the Midwest considering 100F or higher temps aren't exactly uncommon. If you have a nice flat plot of land that retains moisture well and you've got your sprinkler on every day it's 90F+, then sure, it's "unbelievably easy." What is *actually* unbelievably easy is growing new grass from seed in the Fall. >And your grass has stronger roots and is better developed for winter. Between Summer and Winter, Winter is usually the least of the concerns. Unless you have some niche/unique landscaping where your grass is shaded from the brunt of Summer sun, the bigger threat to new grass in the Midwest is indeed Summer heat. Plus, there's less weed competition in the Fall and typically less pressure from pests and disease. >The parroting of misinformation on here is getting insane Again, Fall is a general rule and as such it generally applies to *most* lawns and their individual microclimates. For example, I have a few spots in my backyard where it warms up later in the season and cools off earlier than the rest of the yard. In those spots, Fall isn't the optimal choice to plant as the soil temps start cooling down below the optimal germination/growth point several weeks before the rest of the lawn. Does that mean it's "parroted misinformation" just because of the microclimate in that region of my yard? No, because for the rest of my Midwest yard that receives mostly full sun all day, Fall *is* the optimal time to plant new grass. Could I still grow new grass in the full sun areas with 90F+ temps if I were extra diligent and proactive and babied the seedlings like a mother hen? Yes, sure could, but why?


Numbsphynx

lol welp i did this one year and i got a nasty fungus that spread through my new grass in a day and killed everything. So yea prob not a great idea to plant in June.


Lpeer

Or you could apply fungicides at seeding (which you should be doing in August/September anyway) lol


oBR4VOo

I thought the same thing. I planted my grass in late June when it was 90s years ago. It germinates quickly and as long as you're obsessive over the watering, I think it turns out better anyway.


iNeedOneMoreAquarium

>and as long as you're obsessive over the watering That's the biggest key to planting new grass seed in the Summer. You fuck up one day and it's toast, but if you *do* manage to keep it alive via obsessive watering routines, then it can certainly be rewarding.


vantheman55

https://preview.redd.it/cciyypf0wl8d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=623c9c121940720a05d786adfb46d13125303fa4 Facts. Planted this the first week of June. Think and fresh 3 weeks later.


Outside_Mongoose_749

Even for spring time people are like, “no don’t seed, deal with the weeds then plant in the fall or it won’t survive the summer.” Can’t count how many times I’ve seen that, but in my experience as long as your prepared to water more during the intense heat it will do okay


mtndewgood

I just planted a couple weeks ago in the Midwest and was starting to feel the same way.. long as it stays wet while its getting established it will be fine.. but the sentiment that you can't grow in summer isn't just on Reddit.. its on YT as well. There's definitely less room for error in summer but its not as impossible as lot of people make it out to be


AccurateRumour

Laughed immediately after reading the original response. Heat? HEAT?? I live in Glasgow and can barely conceptualise the very thought of anything other than pissing rain.


ninthchamber

I dug a trench to bury some pipe early July couple years ago 34 Celsius humidity making it feel in the 40s threw some seed down drove over it after watering with my mower to flatten shit out and it grew fine. And you’re in the UK I wouldn’t be worried at all about the heat.


rintantan

I planted mine beginning of July last year and it survived a hot summer. Just keep watering regularly and you’ll prob be good.


TexasPatrick

Early August? Hmmmm. Don't think that's right for the Southern US. More likely to end up with popcorn than grass if you scatter seed in early August down here.


alwaysmyfault

My advice is based on cool season grass types.


N7Valiant

I'm spending the summer trying to kill the grass in my backyard. Like the joke says though, that seems to piss off the grass and it grows back with a vengeance.


AltruisticSpot5448

Is their any logic to the idea that grass that managed to survive being planted in the summer would last better through future heat? Like, survival of the fittest for grass?


alwaysmyfault

Nah, not that I'm aware of.


AltruisticSpot5448

Ok, so I’m still just an idiot then.


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Well it sort of would be survival of the fittest in that the fittest grass i.e. the deepest roots would survive. But it doesn't condition them to the heat or anything. The problem is that if it is super hot, they just don't have the time to get deep enough roots to survive unless you're watering a lot. And not just a lot, it needs to be deep as well because if you water shallow, their roots will be shallow as well. So it'll be a vicious cycle. Edit: but you do need to water shallow until they germinate and at first, since the roots will be shallow by default. Just wanted to clarify that!


AltruisticSpot5448

Thanks! I’ve got water meters at various soil depths and try and make sure it’s constantly moist. I’ve got a lot of germination now and good coverage. Now I’m slowing down the water slightly and watering for longer to try and encourage roots while also making sure to not let it dry out. I can see why people say to avoid this. It’s a giant pain standing out in the sun and watering all day. On the plus side, I had germination in 4 days


yourfriendkyle

It may be worth it to purchase a watering system with timers.


AltruisticSpot5448

I have them. It’s just a very small test plot for now so easier just to hand water


Over16Under31

No you’re just ignorant to your question. You’re intelligent for seeking the answer. 😉 Edit to say that i am also ignorant to your question


yourfriendkyle

No, the idea is that you want the roots to be established before it has to deal with heat.


AltruisticSpot5448

But isn’t the grass at its weakest when it’s brand new? If it can survive germinating and growing through the heat, why would the heat kill it when the roots are only more established?


gzpp

Yes. That’s why you generally don’t plant in mid summer heat unless you want to baby it. If you plant in the fall, it grows once in mild temps, then goes dormant in winter and then gets to grow again in the spring before facing the brutal summer. The idea is that the grass has 2 growing seasons before facing the biggest challenge. However, as other people have mentioned, it’s a rule of thumb. If you’ve got the time, climate, or money, you can plant mid summer and make it work. It just costs more effort or money.


AltruisticSpot5448

Understood. I’m just trying to remain optimistic I didn’t completely waste my time. So far, still alive though


yourfriendkyle

I mean, it it survives then it survives. I’ve just seen a number of my own spring plantings all get burnt by June (like this year). It’s gonna depend heavily on how much work you do and your climate. If you get a lot of rain that summer or water very regularly it’ll probably be okay, it’s not impossible, just not best practice.


AltruisticSpot5448

Completely agree it’s not a good idea. I’ll certainly not repeat it for the rest of the yard. I’m glad that I might get one successful test in before the fall and then I can do the whole yard


Jka333

Not nervouse here. Water


pv1rk23

If you water enough you can grow it in the deserts of central California no problemo


Shatophiliac

Guess it depends on climate, because august is like the worst time to plant anything down south lol.


alwaysmyfault

Yeah. It's about the perfect time to plant for cool season grasses though, especially in the Midwest.


postychief15

Just keep watering into the summer? (Someone who had his whole yard reseeded last week)


alwaysmyfault

Yeah. Deep, infrequent waterings. But don't be afraid to give it a nice soak if it gets really hot.


postychief15

Much appreciated!


HedgehogHappy6079

I planted a few weeks ago, we just had over a week with 85-90 degree weather and all is good!


yourmumsfavourite1

Do all Americans just think everyone else lives in America?


alwaysmyfault

Well, it's an American website, with primarily American users.  We know it's used worldwide, but typically international users will say when they are from outside the US.  I bet you use whatever website is popular in your country and assume that everyone on that site is your nationality too. It's only natural to do so.  https://www.reddit.com/r/ask/s/V42T6scA2d Roughly half of all reddit users are American.  I'd venture that the amount of American users in the lawncare subreddit is even higher. 


Due_Reference_8381

I can’t keep established grass green right now and this guy is planting with great results in mid June


AltruisticSpot5448

My dumbass planted a cool season tall fescue in Florida last week and somehow it germinated and continues to survive. I keep waiting for it to die eventually but so far, it survives through my ignorance. I’ve had consistent ground temps at 90+. Everything I read said it would never germinate and yet it did.


digitalwankster

Keep it wet and it’ll be fine


AltruisticSpot5448

Cool, currently watering about 5 times a day


freestateofflorida

I’m also in Florida and seeded Kentucky blue grass cause I only read “shade tolerant” on the bag not realizing it’s a cool season grass and it is looking a hell of a lot better then the Bermuda I planted that stays in the sun over half the day. The Kentucky is almost fully under a tree.


nibbles200

Midwesterners lawns look fantastic right now. Well I guess not all midwesterners, some of their lawns if haven’t been swept away by bloated rivers are under water dying.


Over_Marionberry9312

At 2 weeks this is what you should expect. Different grasses germinate at different rates. If you planted a blend, you can expect it to continue to fill out. I’m always a big fan of an overseed in the fall on a newly planted lawn to ensure a nice thick turf in the spring


DuckyFuz

Yeah this is a blend of PRG 80% (two different types) and 20% slender creeping red fescue. So hopefully continues to fill out!


NatKingSwole19

That looks fucking phenomenal, brother. In a few weeks it will tiller out and be thicker than your hot wife’s booty. Hit it with 0.2lb N/ksqft of urea (0.4lb product/ksqft) bi-weekly if you got it. Don’t forget to mow it at 2” for a couple mows, then you can let it grow to your desired height. Also super don’t forget to lay down pre-emergent (I prefer Prodiamine) 60 days after seed down or you’ll end up with a ton of weeds.


DuckyFuz

Thanks. I put down a 6 week slow release pre seed fertiliser with NPK at a ratio of 6.9.6. Good idea regarding the pre emergent!


NatKingSwole19

I just zoomed in and saw some droopy grass. How many days after germination is it? You definitely probably want to mow it.


DuckyFuz

13 days since I sowed it and about 7 days since I saw some of the first shoots. Isn’t it too delicate to mow? When I stand on a bit it just flattens it.


DuckyFuz

Just checked and it’s 2-3 inches in most places. But there’s plenty of new shoots still coming through. Think I should still mow?


NatKingSwole19

Yep!


DuckyFuz

Most areas look healthy with long straight grass but there are are few areas like this. Where the grass is quite floppy and curling and almost tangling up with other grass as a result. Any ideas? https://preview.redd.it/ksqzbwn5ac9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=188bfa92105079d9d3e59bceeaf1b443d9dd3867


AltruisticSpot5448

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Educational_Milk2225

Wait, mow it before it gets too high back to 2”?


GammaGargoyle

Are you talking about the grass or his wife’s booty?


NatKingSwole19

Yes


NatKingSwole19

Don’t let it get super tall when it’s that young. When it hits 2-2.5”, cut it back to 1.5-2”. And also, baby grass is much more resilient than people think. Even if the grass lays down after you mow it, it will bounce back after some water.


drewbinator

I planted in early May. My lawn looked like this and two weeks later it was thicc.


MedievalSalesmen

Beautiful Clark!


victorescu

Lucky no rabbits around... A portion I overseeded this spring was basically a salad bar for the little monsters. Meant I didn't have to mow though, but they didn't follow the 1/3 rule :)


DuckyFuz

Yeah no rabbits luckily!


Jka333

Rabbits eat clover….not grass here in Wisconsin.


victorescu

They love grass seedlings in New England :) the ones in my yaad anyways :)


GroveWilksb

What seed did you use mate? Looks mint!


DuckyFuz

Premier Lawn Seed from Boston Seeds. It’s 80% PRG and 20% Slender Creeping Fescue. More specifically Escapade and EG Resists PRG and Samata Slender Creeping Fescue.


AltruisticSpot5448

Creeping red fescue seems like great grass


AtariXL

I'm repeating the phrase "two weeks"!? like the fat lady disguise that imploded in Total Recal. Uh, yeah...you have phenominal results for two weeks - congrats!


tth2o

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Binkindad

You don’t need more seed. You have plenty there that will fill in with fertilization. Get one of those “lawn feeders” that attach to your garden hose. The kind that spray liquid fertilizer. A lot of them are single use. Apply one every two to three weeks through the early fall. Water frequently during this period. It should be filled in well by then. Fertilize with a granular in early September again in early to mid October. Next season you won’t need to do the bi weekly apps of the liquid feeder. Just granular in spring with pre-emergent and the two fall apps again all with granular fertilizer. Iff you irrigated you could add an early June app possibly with grub control


Nice_Hope_8852

Looks great for being so young. It should fill in more in time, but you can always reseed thin spots in fall.


InsaneButtFart

I would be happy, especially the weather it's growing in


marcaustin0778

Oh yes!!


GTJackD

Kinda looks like actual rye grass to me…


nucl3ar0ne

Yup, it's grass.


angrypoopoolala

2werks looki better than my 20yrold lawn meh


dcboy23

Lol if youre wondering if this looks good for 2 weeks, you should see my new yard after 6 weeks. This is beautifulllll


Jka333

Looks great! An inch of water per week….and fert every 4-5 weeks. My new lawn was seeded and looked like crap. Got 4 granular apps and weed control….now 2 years later its weed free and super thick. Water is the key !!!!!!


chrisweidmansfibula

That looks great


axisblasts

Looks great for thet long


Nudiator

Looks great. Big worry is something digging it up or gouging it when wet and tender.


Weekly_Mycologist523

It will fill in. What grass seed was this?


bigbackbernac

Looks good to me! What did you plant?


herbnhero

Not sure, can you upload one more photo?


New-Cucumber-7423

https://preview.redd.it/dn7v3ig6ml8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab596c36a3dd2bf88edfa083ef3e49938d4dd6ef


Reaganson

Now all you need to do is watch for weeds.


seemore_077

Looks ok. I would toss more seed down on those bare spot. And ensure the grass seed is a decent perennial mixture for your area. It’s easy to “sprout” new grass seed, but keeping it growing healthy can be a little more difficult.


International_Bend68

Heck yes! Just make sure to keep it watered.


Deep-Confusion-5472

Looks good and yes you will have to fix spots next year.


Sekshual_Tyranosauce

You’re doing great.


rb-2008

Looks good to me.


Meowsipoo

It needs some clover in there :)


I-Bang-The-Drums

Looks great! Keep doing exactly what you’re doing! Dont water it the day before you go to cut it. Id cut it about 2-3 weeks from now, depending on how fast it continues to grow


pk613

Looks awesome dude


Ultrasonic-Sawyer

Looking very solid. Basically just what you want 2 weeks in.  As other seed germinates then it'll fill out more and finally after a few mows it'll thicken beautifully. 


wouldliketomention

Its going to be nice! It's really healthy even before the weeds popped up! Keep the soil damp, don't let it dry out now. You're gonna have a nice lawn.


Efficient_Concern760

Looks amazing! Especially for a June planting!


dean0_0

Nice


Ok-Caterpillar7004

What type of grass is it


rockdpm

Better than my yard right now.


k0uch

What kind of grass did you seed?


LogJumpinObject

Looks boring as fuck you should kill that grass and plant some shrubs and flowers


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https://preview.redd.it/whohk12yyk8d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9acc0ceeb8baa86f087f89ab69dbb57718a723f7 This is 2.5 weeks, and at just under 2 weeks it wasn’t all patchy like yours. What steps did you do before seeding? Was the soil bed soft enough? Did you cover the seed?


DuckyFuz

Did you seed a new lawn? I rotavated the top layer and broke it up. Added enriched topsoil. Seeded at about 60g per square meter and lightly raked in. Used a roller to finish.


[deleted]

It virtually was a new lawn yes. Heavily scarified and raked existing patchy lawn, probably about 30%-40% of exiting lawn at most when I overseeded. You rotavated the top layer which is good, that’s what i was wondering really as it’s not coming through particularly even, so wondered if soil was too hard that seed didn’t take in places. Did you cover the seed with a layer of top dressing? Does it get plenty of sun?


[deleted]

Are you USA, and using warm season grasses? As if so, then I’m probably wrong. Mine is cool season grass in U.K., germinates very differently.