Did you and the landlord discuss a price/terms verbally at all before you received the lease to sign? Was there an advertised price communicated to you at any point?
The advertised price for that is $687 / month. The leasing manager stated that it was not prorated several days after I signed.
TERM. The term of the Lease Contract begins at 12PM Noon on the 18th day of May, 2024 and ends at 12:00 noon the 17th day of August 2024.
This term is only 3 months long.
Do you have any communications that include the advertised price? If you do, I would forward those to the landlord as well as the highlighted length of your lease term.
Seems to me that someone noticed the discrepancy between the numbers and assumed that the larger value was correct without checking the lease term.
Well then I could see it going either way. But it seems then that you should pay a prorated amount for May and the lease should extend to the end of August.
Something I regret is that I had a phone conversation with the property manager where she agreed that it should be 3 months and I did not get that on recording because I did not anticipate it. Now they are trying to switch it up on me. I will just do the next best thing and document the statement and the day and time when the call occurred.
It could be, but as u/WACKY_ALL_CAPS_NAME said, "It's not obvious. 3 payments of $687 amounts to $2061. If an error has been made it's more likely that it was an error with the number of payments than the total.
It takes one simple mistake to transcribe a 3 as a 4. It takes three increasingly unlikely mistakes to enter a mistaken total that also a multiple of the the payment ammount."
I actually made efforts in an email to say that I attempted to have them update the time period because it originally said 12 installments and I told them to please update the number of months to reflect the time period.
Are you saying this gives the ability to break the lease with no repercussions since I don't agree with their new terms? Said lease does not go into affect until 5/18
If the apartment was offered at $687/month and OOP's lease is a 3-month lease, then it would seem that the error was in the number of payments, not the total. I suspect that someone noticed the discrepancy in the numbers and interpreted it in the way most favorable to the landlord (incorrect total, rather than an incorrect number of installments).
It's not obvious. 3 payments of $687 amounts to $2061. If an error has been made it's more likely that it was an error with the number of payments than the total.
It takes one simple mistake to transcribe a 3 as a 4. It takes three increasingly unlikely mistakes to enter a mistaken total that also a multiple of the the payment ammount.
Did you and the landlord discuss a price/terms verbally at all before you received the lease to sign? Was there an advertised price communicated to you at any point?
The advertised price for that is $687 / month. The leasing manager stated that it was not prorated several days after I signed. TERM. The term of the Lease Contract begins at 12PM Noon on the 18th day of May, 2024 and ends at 12:00 noon the 17th day of August 2024. This term is only 3 months long.
Do you have any communications that include the advertised price? If you do, I would forward those to the landlord as well as the highlighted length of your lease term. Seems to me that someone noticed the discrepancy between the numbers and assumed that the larger value was correct without checking the lease term.
When are you expected to make the payments?
The first of the month
Well then I could see it going either way. But it seems then that you should pay a prorated amount for May and the lease should extend to the end of August.
Update: Matter was resolved in my favor shortly after sending an email with a letter explaining my position.
That's great news. Cheers.
Something I regret is that I had a phone conversation with the property manager where she agreed that it should be 3 months and I did not get that on recording because I did not anticipate it. Now they are trying to switch it up on me. I will just do the next best thing and document the statement and the day and time when the call occurred.
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It could be, but as u/WACKY_ALL_CAPS_NAME said, "It's not obvious. 3 payments of $687 amounts to $2061. If an error has been made it's more likely that it was an error with the number of payments than the total. It takes one simple mistake to transcribe a 3 as a 4. It takes three increasingly unlikely mistakes to enter a mistaken total that also a multiple of the the payment ammount."
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But it seems like he's only staying for 3 months. It makes more sense that it should be 3 payments, not 4.
Well I have their signature on the current lease and if they decide to do that I have alternative options.
I actually made efforts in an email to say that I attempted to have them update the time period because it originally said 12 installments and I told them to please update the number of months to reflect the time period.
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Are you saying this gives the ability to break the lease with no repercussions since I don't agree with their new terms? Said lease does not go into affect until 5/18
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3x687 is 2061. Why wouldn't the scrivener's error be decided in his favor?
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He's renting it for 3 months. The mistake being 4 payments instead of 3 is more likely.
If the apartment was offered at $687/month and OOP's lease is a 3-month lease, then it would seem that the error was in the number of payments, not the total. I suspect that someone noticed the discrepancy in the numbers and interpreted it in the way most favorable to the landlord (incorrect total, rather than an incorrect number of installments).
Why are they asking me to sign an updated lease then?
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Well how can the payments exceed the stated total due for the term?
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It's not obvious. 3 payments of $687 amounts to $2061. If an error has been made it's more likely that it was an error with the number of payments than the total. It takes one simple mistake to transcribe a 3 as a 4. It takes three increasingly unlikely mistakes to enter a mistaken total that also a multiple of the the payment ammount.
That was my understanding of it since the effective term of the lease is 3 months total from 5/18 - 8/17.
Yea, sorry I missed that part and deleted my previous comments. If that is the term of the lease, then you may very well be correct here.
That may be but we mutually agreed to those terms and it was my understanding that it was implicit prorating.