Look, I'm an American and I love my country, but if we're gonna pretend we never lied, cheated, stole, and murdered constantly throughout our history? C'mon now
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
Thatās allot to assume at the end there. Probability is against you on the claim nobody thinks or says that. But I find your certainty reassuring, it can be often hard to differentiate seriousness and joking online.
I didn't say "nobody has said or thought that ever", I said nobody said that. As in, show me in this thread where someone said that. C'mon man, not really making a strong case for yourself as someone who doesn't make assumptions then gets mad at the assumptions they just made up
I am once again begging people on the Internet to learn what a word is before using it to try to win arguments. If someone is being hypocritical, pointing that out is not automatically whataboutism. Thanks!
Well the difference is that NA history wasn't about that until the europeans showed up. The europeans on the other hand have done it pretty much as long as china.
Dude, like.. I fully agree that the Europeans committed genocide on the native peoples of the Americas, but I'm also not going to pretend they didn't fight amongst themselves. Intertribal wars over resources and territory were just as common as every other part of the world. My entire point is that no nation has clean hands
This will upset many people but Stealing is taking something that doesnāt belong to you.
When you conquer a nation, it belongs to you. as sad as it sounds. Itās like saying my wife stole my half retirement fund when she conquered my heart itās her entitlement. China is well known for stealing ask any Korean/Tibetan/Uyghur or ethnic group that isnāt Han.
In the international community, it effectively does unless someone is strong enough or willing to take it back. Land doesn't just intrinsically belong to a group of people, and most land has had multiple owners through the millenia. People can dispute land claims if they want, or not recognize them, but it doesn't matter unless they can enforce their will.
Like, Russia is claiming Alaska. If they can take it, it's theirs. The CCP can't take Taiwan unless they can take it.
There is something to be said about governments that get the concent of the people being governed to rule. To maintain that in the face of warlords takes military power though. I'm all for stripping dictatorships and monarchs of their power and land in order to liberate their people and set up constitutionally limited representative governments, but that ideal can only be realized with force to back it up.
Chinese completely fabricates lies about Tibet whenever convenient, regardless if theyāre remotely true. Other than a few black and white photos or the corpses of Tibetans that China tortured during the cultural revolution repurposed for Chinese propaganda, there is no evidence of slavery. There should be millions of old Tibetans in Tibet walking around missing eyes, tongues, or hands from before China āfreedā them according to the Chinese story, but not a single individual exists.
The 17 point treaty China made Tibet sign after their 1950 invasion even says Tibetās local political system will be respected/unchanged by China, meaning if Tibet was using slavery then China was fine with it (see article 4 of 17), contradicting their entire claim of wanting to āliberateā Tibet. After 1959 when Tibetans had violently revolted from Chinese oppression for many years did China first create claims of liberating slaves.
In fairness, America only has a like 450-year history of cheating and stealing (and genocide). Of course America is officially only about 250 years oldā¦
If sheās referring to how various European nations stole Chinese land and/or cheated them with unfair treaties, then technically speaking they do have a history full of thieves and cheaters.
His counterpoint slaps
Bitch
How can she slap? š
He stole it from someone else. Fuckin China.
Bitch
Apparently in China they donāt have the folk phrase, āthe pot calling the kettle blackā.
that escalated quickly
Bitch
Brick killed a guy!
Look, I'm an American and I love my country, but if we're gonna pretend we never lied, cheated, stole, and murdered constantly throughout our history? C'mon now
It's like a crow calling a crow black Idk what I even said here lol
Damn crows think theyāre so good with their 700 foot wall.Ā
Caw! Caw! Caw! CAW! Caw. -crows, when they read your comment (probably)
"My mother was a saint, take it back!" A crow reading your sentence probably
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
Fair fucking play
You put way to much effort into a reddit comment but it is appreciated
This is pasta.
This is what Iām talking about. This is the easily digestible content that thrives here. Good job.
The kettle calling the pot black or something
I LOL'ed. Take my upvote.
Still more curated than that bitchās post
one of the crows is cooking in gutteroil and harvesting organs tho
Bitch
The only reason we don't have a 5000 year history of lying, cheating, and stealing is because the country hasn't been around for 5000 years yet
>yet Ambitious
Also the fact they slaughtered the history that was here for thousands of years
Beats people pretending the US was the only or worst country founded on blood.
Lmao nobody said that though, so maybe you're just hurting your own feelings and making it everyone else's problem
Thatās allot to assume at the end there. Probability is against you on the claim nobody thinks or says that. But I find your certainty reassuring, it can be often hard to differentiate seriousness and joking online.
I didn't say "nobody has said or thought that ever", I said nobody said that. As in, show me in this thread where someone said that. C'mon man, not really making a strong case for yourself as someone who doesn't make assumptions then gets mad at the assumptions they just made up
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I am once again begging people on the Internet to learn what a word is before using it to try to win arguments. If someone is being hypocritical, pointing that out is not automatically whataboutism. Thanks!
Well the difference is that NA history wasn't about that until the europeans showed up. The europeans on the other hand have done it pretty much as long as china.
Dude, like.. I fully agree that the Europeans committed genocide on the native peoples of the Americas, but I'm also not going to pretend they didn't fight amongst themselves. Intertribal wars over resources and territory were just as common as every other part of the world. My entire point is that no nation has clean hands
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I'm not sure you're following the conversation
So, every country to ever exist
How can that be?
Let it be.
Not Pakistan, they were born few decades ago
The fuck was bitch yapping about?
Yeah china's not known for stealing and cheating, like they're not the british museum. Maybe the last 100 or so years with the dictatorship?
This will upset many people but Stealing is taking something that doesnāt belong to you. When you conquer a nation, it belongs to you. as sad as it sounds. Itās like saying my wife stole my half retirement fund when she conquered my heart itās her entitlement. China is well known for stealing ask any Korean/Tibetan/Uyghur or ethnic group that isnāt Han.
That's a bad take
Forcefully taking anything, especially an entire fucking country, does not make it yours just because you have it now.
In the international community, it effectively does unless someone is strong enough or willing to take it back. Land doesn't just intrinsically belong to a group of people, and most land has had multiple owners through the millenia. People can dispute land claims if they want, or not recognize them, but it doesn't matter unless they can enforce their will. Like, Russia is claiming Alaska. If they can take it, it's theirs. The CCP can't take Taiwan unless they can take it. There is something to be said about governments that get the concent of the people being governed to rule. To maintain that in the face of warlords takes military power though. I'm all for stripping dictatorships and monarchs of their power and land in order to liberate their people and set up constitutionally limited representative governments, but that ideal can only be realized with force to back it up.
Tibetan here, and yeah, we hate China a lot for the bs they did to us
Ehh, ending slavery was pretty cool, though
What do you mean? China never ended slavery in Tibet, they just worsened it by hundredfold
can't find anything about that online. If you feel like it you can try to explain what you are talking about but that's obviously up to you.
Chinese completely fabricates lies about Tibet whenever convenient, regardless if theyāre remotely true. Other than a few black and white photos or the corpses of Tibetans that China tortured during the cultural revolution repurposed for Chinese propaganda, there is no evidence of slavery. There should be millions of old Tibetans in Tibet walking around missing eyes, tongues, or hands from before China āfreedā them according to the Chinese story, but not a single individual exists. The 17 point treaty China made Tibet sign after their 1950 invasion even says Tibetās local political system will be respected/unchanged by China, meaning if Tibet was using slavery then China was fine with it (see article 4 of 17), contradicting their entire claim of wanting to āliberateā Tibet. After 1959 when Tibetans had violently revolted from Chinese oppression for many years did China first create claims of liberating slaves.
That's rich coming from her
She must be the average /r/worldnews user
Lol
In fairness, America only has a like 450-year history of cheating and stealing (and genocide). Of course America is officially only about 250 years oldā¦
This bitch made me agree with Chinese state affiliated media
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has she heard about great britain yet?
I stan ChenĀ
No, I'm Stan and he's Chen
I rarely agree with the chinese but this man is correct
If sheās referring to how various European nations stole Chinese land and/or cheated them with unfair treaties, then technically speaking they do have a history full of thieves and cheaters.
Based
I hate to agree with a member of the CCP but here we are.
WTF??
Is this real, link?
Did this just make me pro china?
north americans and europeans acting like they didnāt fuck up the entire world
What did they exactly fuck up?
In world politics, China is a black crow, in a flock full of black crows. We really need to fix the corruption in all governments.
Blackburn, my dear, we have absolutely no room to talk. Get real.
America has been cheating and stealing from day one.
We take the weekends off now. You're welcome, world.
When your best friend throws you under the bus.
TREACHEROUS DOG!
You said ot tho..
Cheating and stealing and name calling, apparently. Beats the Khans, I guess.
Might not be 5000 years, but she's right, fuck China.
Bitch
Curva
Ugh ā¦ they and she are such a joke Iām virtually high fiving Chinaā¦but like dude Marsha, wtf
Damn look at all these westen wumaos sucking on Chinese ***
Itās kind of ironic since ā5000 years historyā is alsoā¦ wellā¦ arguable
is there a quacta calling a stifling slimy?
Looks like she hit a nerve.