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PossibleBrief563

Nice word 'capitulate'


Draculamb

No point my offering advice with this one. This is exactly what needs to be done here: nothing. They have no hope of winning this.


Beasting-25-8

"Dear RE Lol. No. Kind regards"


redditiscompromised2

New phone who dis


ososalsosal

"I refer you to the reply in the case of Arkell v Pressdram 1977" [Edit] it was 1971. Silly memory.


nurseofdeath

Care to elaborate for the lazy among us?


ososalsosal

["Fuck off"](https://lettersofnote.com/2013/08/07/arkell-v-pressdram/)


nurseofdeath

Thank you!


HippoIllustrious2389

Care to summarise for the really fucking lazy among us?


jackoman03

>29th April 1971 >Dear Sir, >We act for Mr Arkell who is Retail Credit Manager of Granada TV Rental Ltd. His attention has been drawn to an article appearing in the issue of Private Eye dated 9th April 1971 on page 4. The statements made about Mr Arkell are entirely untrue and clearly highly defamatory. We are therefore instructed to require from you immediately your proposals for dealing with the matter. >Mr Arkell’s first concern is that there should be a full retraction at the earliest possible date in Private Eye and he will also want his costs paid. His attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of your reply. >Yours, Goodman Derrick & Co. Dear Sirs, We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr. J. Arkell. We note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off. Yours, Private Eye


HippoIllustrious2389

This is what we wanted!


Amberfire_287

"Fuck off" is, verbatim, the response, with a bit of floral language either side.


nurseofdeath

No. I’m too lazy


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


TinyBreak

Personally I’d go with “pound sand c***” but that’s just me.


HippoIllustrious2389

It’s just not fair on the owner 😢 lol


_aaine_

But it's TOTALLY fair to lump a tenant who hasn't set foot in the place for 4 months with the damage. 🤬 This is one big set of balls, even for these people.


switchbladeeatworld

Trying to pass the buck because either it broke in the last four months or the agent missed it on the exit inspection and is getting reamed by the owner, either way tenant is in the clear.


SignificantRecipe715

I laughed at this bit too


Nothingnoteworth

I laughed too, then I stopped and thought about how it really isn’t fair, and …if only there was someone responsible, someone whose job it was to oversee these things, a …specialist? …no …an agent maybe, who could manage the property, you know, check the condition when tenets move in and again when they move out, report back to the landlord, take responsibility If they fuck up, wear cute little suits, differentiate themselves from other suited professionals by using excessive quantities of hair gel.


switchbladeeatworld

Don’t forget the Audi with personalised plates, wait that’s agents in sales. Property managers get Volkswagen Golfs with euro plates.


NalaTheDoggo

WONT SOMEBODY.. PLEASE THINK OF THE LANDLORDS?!?!


PooballoonOG

I think of them frequently and whether they’re fat enough yet to eat


Hypo_Mix

I'd be tempted to reply "could you please elaborate on why it would be fairer for the tenant to pay for the owners repairs?"


GullibleNews

Mr. owner, take the $20000 in cash i paid you over the tenancy period and use some of it to wipe your tears and then some more to fix the stovetop and then feel free to bathe in the rest.


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Tell them they are welcome to go to VCAT with their supposed evidence. They'll quickly lose all interest


Wetrapordie

100% when they say “not fair to the owner” they really mean “not fair to us” I assume they neglected to do a proper inspection on vacation and released your bond and the owner has raised it to the REA. Assuming they were slack in their inspection they may have to compensate the owner… best to stay out of it, not your problem at all. All they can do is take you to VCAT which they won’t it’s too much effort. If they do, go it’s really not that scary.


Longjumping_King_546

This. Problem solved then and there.


coastal_maple

Bringing up VCAT to property managers is my favourite hobby


Zealous_Bend

> We had our bond returned in full after they performed a final inspection. And that is the end of the conversation > I’m going to call VCAT tomorrow Why waste your minutes? > Any comments about experience of this happening would also be appreciated. Stop wasting your time engaging with the REA.


jordankowi

I haven't replied to them at all and after all the helpful comments and advice on here I'm not going to. I'm going to call tenants Victoria tomorrow just incase I could get through but if not no worry, I'll just block their email and move on. Thank you!


Alborto

That's a good idea in any case. It would be surprising if this was the first time they'd pulled this kind of thing.


Thenewdazzledentway

Tenants Vic. must be *so* tired of hearing this from worried tenants as it’s almost standard behaviour by the agencies now. Four months is really trying it on but I guess there’s still some naive patsies out there.


Marple1102

I called because the owner mentioned wanting to charge me for a small stain on the carpet (the carpet was damaged with a ton of spots before I moved in), and when I told her the carpet is almost 11 years old, the woman responded with “Ah, so they’re trying to charge you for something with $0 value. Yeah, they can’t do that.” Helpful, but I could tell she has had to deal with this way too many times.


Thenewdazzledentway

What a waste of everyone’s time, but I guess there’s enough tenants out there that get cowed into paying. Awful.


MouseEmotional813

It might be worth notifying tenants Victoria just as a fyi for them. Even possibly putting it on a review of the real estate agents on Google


jordankowi

Don't worry, I will be reviewing. Thank you for the reply!


darvo110

To be real with you: don’t waste their time. They’re super busy with proper issues, and your situation is an open and shut case. You’ve got your bond back already, the agent would have to go to VCAT to recover any money, and they won’t because a) they don’t have a leg to stand on b) VCAT hearings have a 12 month backlog in most places and c) it’s not worth their time. Either ignore them completely, or send them one email informing them it was working when you left and it’s not your problem, and to stop contacting you.


sjf83

Don't waste VCAT's time by calling them they are just a court. I wouldn't even respond


allthewords_

It’d give the VCAT admin person something to laugh about and share at Friday night drinks!


gccmelb

Sounds like they are fishing. Just ignore them.


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IntroductionSnacks

Exactly besides emailing them back. They need to go to vcat after this amount of time. Other than that just don’t even reply and ignore them until the slim chance of a vcat letter.


jordankowi

There isn't even a photo of it on the original condition report because it was installed after we moved in.


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jordankowi

If they never organised an final inspection with us and we were never told of any final inspection ever occurring just that essentially mean they're taking the absolute piss? They didn't send one in the email I received which tells me they never even did one.


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They are definitely taking the piss


[deleted]

They normally don’t send anything or let you know. You need to ask to attend the exit inspection generally, they don’t want to coordinate with you because they’re all lazy and it’s more work. That’s why I said email them asking to them to refer to the condition report, I should have said exit condition report. They’re taking the piss, and if they didn’t do the condition report within ten days of you handing back the keys they’ve got no leg to stand on. They can huff and puff all they like.


jordankowi

Thank you for all the advice, it's very reassuring. I'm going to call tenants Victoria tomorrow (more appropriate than VCAT I think) and just see what they say and I'll update you if you'd like. Appreciate all your effort!


[deleted]

Don’t stress it! I’ve rented my whole life here and most annoying real estate things generally come down to the fact that property managers don’t want to be property managers and do the work, and they’re panicking now because the landlord is threatening to take their business someone else. They don’t want to pay up for their mistakes.


Thenewdazzledentway

Don’t waste your time or tenants Vic. All you have to do is ignore this bullshit claim, and leave a google review so that the next tenants know what crooks this bunch are.


-usernotdefined

Would you even trust them not to back date a report? At least with a photo you can see the date it was taken in the meta data. If there was no photo taken days following leaving then I'd call bull on the report.


WAPWAN

I would respond that the Agent should advise their client to find a better Agent.


NalaTheDoggo

Seriously?! Lmao. They have NO legal evidence.


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Don't worry or stress about it.


onelove7866

Tell them “toodaloo mother fuckerrrrrrrr”


miaara

Absolutely do not waste your time responding to this or even calling VCAT. RE doesn't have a chance in hell.


CaptainSharpe

Once they've given you the bond that's it. It's done. You have no obligation anymore.


Remarkable_Custard

A real estate did this to my friend. 4 weeks after full bond return they emailed with photos saying they made a mistake and the apartment isn’t up to cleaning standards, things dirty, walls not scrubbed, etc. and asked for $400 for cleaning and even had the brass to include which account to transfer it to. Mate replied “Better start cleaning then, cause I broke” Never heard back.


burza45

The best answer hahah


gorytex

Still call vcat but pretty sure its done and they get nothing. They had their chance to claim and didnt.


sphericalvibe

Ignore them. They're fishing.


Riegn00

Would not even give this the time of day. If your bond has been returned then that is enough of proof to say that contract has been completed and all is in order. They’ve realised there might be damage on an area they didn’t check and want to see if they can back date it, weather you did or didn’t is irrelevant. Bond is returned so contract is fulfilled


creamypastaman

The gall on these pricks


emgyres

Not to mention the cheek, the audacity and the gumption


mjdub96

Just ignore them. Not worth arguing or stressing over and they have no leg to stand on.


Juicyy56

Sounds like they are fishing and just hope you'll fold under pressure. I wouldn't reply, they may go away. I would keep all emails/messages/letters just incase they try to take you to court. They don't have a case


looptarded

Lmao don’t reply what a joke of an agent. The agency can suck it up and pay for the repair seeing as it’s their fuck up


Iuvenesco

Absolutely zero to stand on. Final inspection completed and bond returned. They can get fucked :-)


thesenseiwaxon

Real estate agent and landlord scum moaning about fairness. LOL. They have no leg to stand on, they did their inspection and refunded the money. Only issue is they might put you on a blacklist or not give you a reference etc. So it's your call from there.


_aaine_

They cannot blacklist for this. There are only a handful of very specific reasons they are allowed to list on tenancy databases and this ain't one of them.


jordankowi

I was thinking so, thank you kind sir/madam.


jordankowi

We have already got another property so no need to worry about references from them. I've also read about blacklisting and it is very hard to add someone to a blacklist, but appreciate your reply nonetheless.


Mythical_Atlacatl

Sounds like even if they made a mistake, that’s their mistake


[deleted]

Either ignore it. Or respond formally with a proper formal "fuck you". "You were present with me at the time of inspection, you witnessed and examined the property thoroughly after our departure and saw no damage whatsoever and returned the bond in full. Your attempt to reach me, months after my departure regarding a cracked stove top is as you well know, not my doing, nor is it my concern. Your actions are nothing short of offensive, untrue and desperate, and I will no longer participate in any further correspondence from you, or your agency and thus I will no longer be involved in further business with you and your organisation. Our emails and discussions have been forwarded to Vcat and will be handled accordingly". Regards, "you".


Junaid_hsn

I wouldn't reply at all, but if I were to I would send exactly what you wrote just so they know what pieces of shit they are. Honestly my first housemates I lived with learned from their mistakes in the past and have taught me to always take pictures of absolutely everything even the skirtings and everything wrong no matter how minuscule before we start living on the property, and after we do our final cleaning and ready to leave, again right before the final inspection take pictures of absolutely everything so there is no say or doubt and you always have proof if they try to fuck you over sideways like they are trying to do to op.


altctrldel86

Here is a formal reply I use when I'm involved in these kinds of situations, feel free to copy and paste it as a response. "K, lol"


kbro3

I believe this particular case could also be covered with a formal reply of "No, u"


Bejasaka

Too bad. So sad!


universe93

You got your bond back. That should have been the end of the post, as it’s the end of your tenancy. They cannot take your bond back or make you pay it back. Ignore them. Block them if you have to.


sickomilk

But come on guys, it's not fair for the owner to pay this. Someone has to! Just not the RE or the owner. /S


alsotheabyss

Dear RE Kindly, go fuck yourself. No regards, etc.


xjrh8

Perfect. I couldn’t think of a polite way to say go fuck yourself, but you’ve absolutely nailed it.


Thenewdazzledentway

I like that it was so kind.


xjrh8

So kind. It literally starts with kindly.


kthxbyebye

Lol don’t bother just ignore them. You snooze you lose.


NotMyBuddyGuyAu

Don't respond at all. You aren't obligated to.


KTK87

Don't respond and block all details Once they pay ya out they doneski


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JamesDoggins

This exact thing happened to me and my housemates about 8 years ago. We received a letter in the mail saying we had a hearing at VCAT so we went and thought we were screwed. When the member heard how many months had passed he closed the case immediately and basically told the REA they had wasted everyone’s time. It was over in no time. Don’t even worry about it, the agent have nothing


jordankowi

Cheers James, appreciate your reply!


macedonym

They're wasting your time, if I was you, I would waste their time back. 1) Reply and say you can't see any crack. 2) Reply to the next email asking for a timestamped photo 3) Before you get a reply to (2) follow up & say you agree that it is unfair for the landlord to pay for damage they didn't cause. 4) When the email comes with the timestamped photo (perhaps), reply and say - it is clear the responsible party must pay for the damage. ....... wait........ 5) When they ask for payment, pikachu face them & say, *clearly* the REA is responsible for the damage - the timestamp shows the damage occured well after final inspection.... right?


nocturnal_confidant

You have no contractual obligations with the RE or landlord. That ended the date your bond was returned. The business relationship is over. They can pursue a civil claim for compensation like any other punter via VCAT but they'd better have some compelling evidence.


jordankowi

All I've been provided as evidence is a photo taken at some point in the 4 months after we moved out. There is time stamp on it and they didn't even provide an end of leave condition report which tells me they didn't one at all.


SignificantRecipe715

I'm an ex-PM (Qld). At every exit inspection I did, hundreds of photos were taken (incl. a finger poiting to a crack or chip, etc. to show the scale). A very specific list was then provided to the exiting tenant/s re: any cleaning and/or damages. In short, your ex-PM fucked up. As others have said, just ignore them. They're scrambling & panicking after they didn't follow the right process for your exit/end of lease. Move on & forget that they even contacted you.


jordankowi

This is beautiful, thank you for taking the time to reply. What you have said is exactly what I was thinking, appreciate it!


Thenewdazzledentway

And please follow it, as I had a family member tie themselves in knots over this, the agents try this on with virtually *everyone* now - it is important for tenants to claim their bond immediately and once that is paid there is the assumption that the property was checked, found satisfactory and the contract closed. Just as you as a tenant could not, FOUR months later, claim that you left your Giant TCR bicycle in the main bedroom, and if it’s not there anymore the owner or agent is “liable for $3500, I will see you in court” they cannot say 120 days after you vacated the property that you damaged something.


SignificantRecipe715

I also forgot to mention that all photos taken were time stamped. You're most welcome, and happy cake day! :D


grruser

Don’t call vcat - they are snowed under, but keep all your records. The REA has no claim whatsoever if the facts are as you say. Ignore them and they will go away; as others have said, they are trying it on in case you are gullible. You don’t need to explain anything or justify yourself, in fact if you do they will see a chance, so don’t.


nocturnal_confidant

If I was a VCAT Member then I would throw the case out, they don't have sufficient evidence that you are responsible. I can't recall if there is some prescreening done at VCAT but it might not even make it as far as a hearing based on such flimsy evidence.


Thenewdazzledentway

Four months later? I think VCAT have had quite enough of worried people ringing up after being intimidated by the agents.


nocturnal_confidant

It doesn't matter if it was four months later, although it certainly doesn't look good for RE or landlord. What matters is if can they prove that OP is responsible for the damage. Based on no photographic evidence that falls within the timeframe of OP having access to the property and nothing in the condition report, they can't prove shit. Even if the property has not had a tenant since then. In saying that, as a tenant, it's a good idea to take your own additional photos (which will be timestamped) as you are leaving the property should the condition report not be extensive enough. And if you're really paranoid like moi, hold a copy of today's Age or Herald Sun just in shot 🤣


Several_Age9335

Name and shame and also leave a 1 star review on their company page so other people will be aware of how dodgy they are. Absolute muppets, 4 months is ridiculous. If they try to go to VCAT (99.99% unlikely) they can watch the case get ruled against them using the photo taken months after you’ve moved out… sometime in 2025, maybe 2026? The backlog is insane I’d be tempted to reply back with a really aggressive email outlining how ridiculous this is, maybe CC the CEO and if they contact you again you will submit a complaint through Tenants Vic


Thenewdazzledentway

Yes to the review, and yes I wish there were consequences for agents that do this, but it seems that they all do it now.


preparetodobattle

If they take you to VCAT you should look forward to it.


melb3066

Is there a reason the agency who do this can’t be named here? Seems like it would be useful to have a database of dickhead agents (or at least agencies) to avoid. And if it’s true it’s not libellous.


emgyres

Don’t respond and block their email, they don’t have a leg to stand on.


robot428

Do not reply to this email, there is literally nothing they can do.


[deleted]

It was fine when we left Kindly lick my (our) arsehole(s), ex-tennant ​ Easy


gtodarillo

Hahaha they think you're a suCKer. I would wait and see if they take you to VCAT and I would not even bother responding. What a turd.


kingzem

agent is a total scumbag. don’t give them a single cent


birdmanrules

Not your problem.


Kozeyekan_

They're taking the piss, but it may be worth logging it with VCAT, just in case they try to blackball you from further rentals. There are plenty of shady REAs out there.


wigam

Haha what a bunch of jokers so RE failed to do there job on multiple levels, offer to pay $500 but tell them your day rate is $800 so you’ll send them an invoice for $300, these jokers would probably agree 😝


ThoughtStreet4607

What’s VCAT supposed to order? There is no tenancy agreement. The tenancy agreement ended when the keys were handed back and the bond was released.


aussie_shane

Haven't Real Estate agents become the greatest scumbags. 1980's styled dodgy used car salesmen. Totally driven by greed. It's actually embarrassing.


krhill112

If anyone should be coping the cost of repair it’s the REA. It’s their duty of care to ensure the inspection is done correctly. If it was you, then they should have raised it when they did your exit inspection and dealt with it accordingly. Either it wasn’t damaged at the time or they missed it. Either way it’s on them. Tell them to eat your ass.


The-Jesus_Christ

>"not fair for the owner to have to pay this" Oh no! Anyway....


Jaybz93

I'd send just a laugh cry emoji back


ososalsosal

As others have said: call their bluff.


vacri

>We had our bond returned in full after they performed a final inspection. Well, they are kinda fucked then. Returning you the bond means that you've done no damage beyond wear-and-tear in their opinion. The owners can wipe the tears away with the bucketloads of cash they'll get from the next renters. ​ > photo that has been taken recently with no time stamp on it. Did you confirm this in the photo's metadata? If not, use a photo editor and see what it thinks of the metadata. It'll give a clue as to when it was taken, but note that it can also be altered by someone who knows how.


jethronsfw

Tell them to eat a d&?$ ! . Conversation over


selectors_art

“Dear REA, Sounds like a you problem Lol Regards”


WhatsOSRS

They signed a contract to give you the money back. End of story. I took RE to court, they gave me 1800 back plus the bond, when they wanted to charge me 1800. Saw that the paperwork was backwards, signed it and sent it off. I would not have signed off on me paying them a cent but thats irrelrvant here. Then they cried, went to court, and lost. It's a legal contract they signed and made us sign.


Every-Comfortable-39

As an ex property manager, my advice is the same as the majority here. Dear RE, Nah Love, Xxoo


TechnologyExpensive

They gave you your bond back 4 months ago and asking for money now. Tell them to get fucked. How do you know how many people have been in the property since you got your bond back? Tell them they're dreaming.


raymosaurus

If it were me, I would consider going to their office, because I'm pretty sure laughing in their face would be thoroughly enjoyable.


BuzzVibes

(Former) landlord here. Hold fast, don't respond, you are not at all fucking responsible for this, obviously. You have your bond back, they have no leverage over you at all.


jordankowi

Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it!


idlehanz88

No your circus not your monkeys. If it is truly an issue that needs repairing and the current tennant isn’t liable, it should be coming out of the real estates pocket as they’re the ones who fucked up and released the bond


Treefingrs

In my experience, landlords and property managers are giant bullies who will attempt to squeeze as much out of you as you can. This whole situation is bullshit, and they know it. Don't cooperate. Don't give them anything.


mediweevil

if they accepted the condition of the property when you exited and paid the bond, tell them to fuck off.


shintemaster

Delete email, crack a beer / kombucha / iced tea. Enjoy and never think about this again.


jordankowi

Sound advice, thank you kind sir/madam. After my 2nd edit I'm no longer stressed, even bought myself a new pair of shoes 😊


BiscottiOdd7979

Lol. No. Don’t waste your valuable time with VCAT. I would just ignore them.


drunk-sloth

Pfft stiff shit. If they didn’t do a good enough final inspection they can pay for it themselves. Ignore anything from them and move on with your life.


jordankowi

100% the plan now, thank you for the reply!


jumpingjacks07

You to real estate: Hahahahahahaha Hahahahahah What a funny story Walk away…. Bye Felicia. Not my circus, not my monkey’s. The lease ended the moment you gave back your keys and bond/monies returned back to you. Soz Felicia, people trying to get their cake and eat it too.


WokSmith

Tell them the cheque is in the mail. Add "thoughts and prayers" that usually helps....


goosecheese

I’m going to go against the grain here, and suggest that you do respond to their request, but only with the intention of stringing them along and wasting their time. Ask for more details, higher resolution photos, video footage with weird requirements like showing today’s newspaper to confirm the footage is current. A letter from the landlord giving their personal plea and circumstances as to why they should be given special consideration. Ask them to obtain multiple quotes for repairs for you to consider whether this is something you could afford to assist them with. Ask them about the repairer’s environmental policies, and confirmation that they adhere to modern slavery protections. Tell them that you are willing to consider their requests, but only as a gesture of goodwill. Ask for character references, bank statements and a table of assets and liabilities to provide evidence of their financial difficulties. Then once you have had enough fun with them, tell them to eat a massive bag of dicks. Fucking landlord scum.


Jazzyeee

Don't forget that you want all of their social media accounts as well.


MelbQueermosexual

Tell em to fuck rocks


[deleted]

Lol so many people out there trying to roll us atm. I just got an $800 “quote” from a plumber who says my hot water service is illegal. It was installed 15 years ago by a licensed plumber and no one has ever had a problem but now they need $800 to relocate it. Yeah sure mate. I’m not paying for you to grab an extra few bags this weekend


rhys1990

As long as it meets “standard of the day” for when it was installed there is no need to change anything, if it was installed non compliantly to begin with then that’s a different story


barkingsilverfox

Yeah, our old REA wanted first 250$ for another clean (we already got it professionally cleaned with receipts and photos), then they had open house inspections, claimed more stuff afterwards and after we claimed our bond they want now 1600$, pressure us to cancel the claim and to save ‘us’ time instead of waiting for months for a VCAT hearing. We kindly ignore them. Edit: Oh and there’s already a new tenant in there before they claimed 1600$. lol


jordankowi

That is absolutely ridiculous. You will absolutely not be made to pay anything. Thank you for replying 😊


barkingsilverfox

You should’ve seen the condescending e-mail they send us. Talking down to us like we’re school children, that ticked me off. all the best for your future mate!


jordankowi

Cheers mate, you too, it's almost like we aren't adult men/women. They can fuck right off


barkingsilverfox

Oath!


magicbeaver

Take a photo of your bum and email it to them


babette5211

They have absolutely no leg to stand on. Don't worry, you're good.


DontWhisper_Scream

Hell no they can’t come back after 4 months to demand you pay for things! I wouldn’t even respond.


muito_ricardo

Ignore.


TooMuchTaurine

Sounds like they f'd up and didn't take any pre move in photos before the next tenant moved in.


family-block

and 20yrs after you leave it falls down in a storm. you get a letter from their solicitor...


kttyfrncs

If you save the photo directly to your phone (instead of screenshotting) you can usually see the meta data on it, which will tell you when the photo was taken!


SarrSarz

I would kindly tell them how to eat a dick…


boxhead789

Lol the things people do


CommentWhileShitting

This is so wrong, sorry to see OP


ozspook

"Realtor please.."


lozbootsbrown

Ah good so as a tenant I can add to my entry report if I find something 4 months in! Lolllll


al_prazolam

You have zero obligation to respond. Your relationship with the Landlord ended when you received your bond back. Fuck'em.


NobodysFavorite

They're just trying it on. Completely ignore them.


Satilice

Ignore and block


zireael_420

I would LOVE to get an email like this just to tell them exactly where they can go, fucking chancers 😂


Principle_Real

Something similar happened to me. I ignored them. They never even tried contacting me a second time.


simbapiptomlittle

How do they know the new tenants didn’t do it and are blaming the previous tenants?? Because they don’t have an exit inspection to compare it with.


CeramicTeaSet

Check the metadata on the photos. That will usually tell àyou the time and date it was taken.


Aussieman2019

Yeah nah.


RollaCoastinPoopah

Check if you can access the photo’s metadata and see what date they took the photo. Also… hard NO with being responsible for it. It’s the REA’s fault for not doing their job properly.


PartiallyRibena

“Not my monkeys, not my circus”


_userxname

Literally just ignore them


_caketin

Mark email as spam You don’t have a relationship or contract with these people there is no need to even respond


ScottFuckingMorrison

Tell em to jog on


NalaTheDoggo

They have no way of getting your money, even if you did damage it, because they can't prove it was you. Just calmly state you did not cause the damage and therefore will not be paying for it.


nonsensical__comment

Tell em to go suck a fat chode


Wippa_Snippa

Sounds like a real estate problem to me. The RTBA are the ones who returned the bond and the real estate has to tick off on it.


theresnorevolution

I know I'm way late. But start taking a log of all the time you spend interacting with them. Just a spreadsheet with date, time, duration and quick note regarding the nature of the interaction. Then, if they take you to VCAT you can make a claim for time spent dealing with this issue and attending VCAT


lametheory

I always check the meta data of the image to see when it was taken. I had a real estate agent take me to the tribunal for photos of damage I had supposedly caused that were taken 3 years before we moved in (and documented in our sign in inspection). After their big spiel to the Judge, I simply presented A4 images from the meta data showing them their photos weren't accurate or factual. Got all my bond back.


dre_AU

Tell them to get . I had a RE try this on me months after I moved out. I mentioned getting legal advice and never heard from them again.


aussiegoon

I would ask for a face-to-face meeting so I could laugh in their faces.


marinekai

Literally no reason to reply. You got your bond back, they obviously were happy with the state of the place when you left. Just block their email


Longjumping_King_546

Also, any crack in the glass should be present in the original lease and condition report when you moved in (fully dated and signed). If it's not, fuck them.


SignificantRecipe715

OP replied to another comment that the stove top was installed after they moved in. But, that's redundant considering the other info OP has provided. The REA can eat a dick.


Longjumping_King_546

Agree, they still inspected and returned the bond. Tough titties REA.


frontier001

Respond this : "lol?"


[deleted]

Just reply “lol”


MsDeluxe

Tell them to go kick rocks.


fairybread3

I had this happen to me but with flooring. I had my well worded friend write a spicy email. Challenged them to take me to vcat. Never heard from them again.


Arawanna

Tell them you'll have cash and meet them at ________ Street at 2:30pm.


Steviethatdude

Just say cool. Not paying. If you bother me further. I will go to the news media outlets and make it public.


Spikemydrinkpls

Tell them to eat a bag of socks they’re clearly just trying to strong arm anyone into paying


BJVideoEditing

Asian landlords? If not, I’d be surprised. I’ve experienced this kind of behaviour numerous times (unfortunately 99% of the time it’s been Asian landlords). I even won in court against the real estate agency ‘Ray White’ who was representing my landlord at the time. They were trying to evict me with “no reason given” when I had a 12-month lease for a single room. Everyone else got scared out of the house. I ended up having an entire house to myself for almost a year for the price of a single room. The judge at Ringwood magistrates ended up legitimately laughing at their case and said “this man is representing himself with a mountain of paper on hand, and you can’t even present a single reason as to why you’d like him out.” My mum was only 1 of 2 people sitting in the audience space and once the judge ruled in my favour, mum couldn’t help but make an held back excited noise. The judge asked if I’d like to request anything else, I said that I just wanted the time that I signed on for. After we left the court, my landlord and his representative began hounding me to sign a new document. I refused and walked away. They persisted with text msgs after we parted ways, insisting I sign a new lease. I continued to refuse. I’ve never had such a pain in the ass landlord be so petty and stupid about his own fuck up. There’s a ton more details, but I’ll leave it for a story time in the future lol


jordankowi

This is so satisfying to read and I'm so happy you won!


BJVideoEditing

Cheers. Felt so good to put them in their place. It was definitely one of those moments where I wish it was filmed. Words will never do it justice. Ended up getting shouted a beer for the success :)


jordankowi

Well deserved! :)