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mikajade

What’s going on with vape tobacco shops? I’m out of the loop? Seen lots of arson attacks at them


spacemanTTC

Illegal tobacco and vapes being imported and sold by gangs resulting in infighting and competition gangs burning each other's stores down.


RubenKnowsBest

who could have possibly predicted that prohibition of addictive substances would lead to gang violence. this is unprecedented.


notwhelmed

theres never been any examples of it in history before.... Banning stuff would never lead to enriching organised crime and violent behaviours.


kidwithgreyhair

how could Dan Andrews do this?


Responsible-Spend69

Dan Andrews is the one lightning them up!


XavCass

maybe that's why he retired... from the chief of the state to chiefing the vapes, dan andrews lights up a ciggy faster than he locked down the state (good thing)


Downtown-Dot-6704

name checks out


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dirtyburgers85

You ok mate?


AtomReRun

I CAN NEVER GO OUT AGAIN


GreedyLibrary

You do know vapes and tobacco are not illegal?


toppolinos

Um, the law changed Jan 1st. Vapes are illegal unless from a chemist.


GreedyLibrary

Its that march 1st? Wasnt jan 1st banning disposable vapes? I cant for the life of me understand idiots manufactoring ewaste, so many wasted batteries.


turtleltrut

They actually banned nicotine vapes in 2021..


AliveList8495

Chop chop and illegally imported cigarettes are indeed illegal.


GreedyLibrary

That is not prohibition, prohibition would be if you could not buy tobacco. This is just people suppourting violent gangs and slavery so they can get their fix cheaper.


AtomReRun

It's the next thing. It's not banned but it might as well be


JimmyLizzardATDVM

They are now.


comparmentaliser

TIL. I figured it might have been insurance jobs now that their primary income was being sunsetted.


Person_of_interest_

wonder how many are just straight up insurance jobs


IntroductionSnacks

Why would they? They make a lot of money. This has been happening way before the upcoming vape restrictions.


NutsForDeath

These shops are generally profitable, unlike Burgertory.


SoupRemarkable4512

Burgetory is good for washing money though if you’re the owner who also happens to own multiple illegal tobacco businesses…


Lysanka

Well, looks like Australian Lawmakers had a brain fart. In my case : Vapes are not allowed on sale to people under 18. "Puffs" Aka throwable single use vapes with 3.000 puffs are in talks to be definitely banned of sales from how careless shop owners are and sells them to underaged people, inciting people as young as 12 years old to start vaping. Tobacco not allowed to anyone under 18, heavily regulated, but some people sells them "Under the coat" and it's usually counterfeited cigarettes, but since smokers are willing to sacrifice their lives to save 5 bucks pers packs ( Current laws make it close of 13 € ). Again, just like alcohol, some are careless and sells to underaged people.


AliveList8495

Before I gave up I was buying 50gr of tobacco in an olive pouch with big warnings, just like the brands from a supermarket, for $30 which was a saving of almost $100.


Optimal_Assistance34

Saving $5 per pack? No…. What would be $55 at the supermarket can be purchased for $15 at the places selling illegal cigarettes.


yoursoulforrock

The tax is a couple grand a week so sell the illegal cigs n vapes


ErnieTapai

The problem is that the firestarter is playing Where In the World is Khamel Abu Dhabi as he never had citizenship and got given the arse.


dadadundadah

Twisted firestarter


Advice_Bot_53000

Nice of them to warn the general public not to walk in front of that shop.


the-ahh-guy

looks like they're going to have to use an IED on this joint instead of the usual firebomb which has to reach inside


MvTWO__

Push in the aircon, molotov, GG EZPZ


Bowlofpho69

Dust (II) Meta


Akashd98

No kit, no clue, and the shopkeeper qq


Samuraisaurus

The door was reinforced like that about 6 months ago after they got robbed by someone kicking in the old door. It wasn’t for Molotov protection, although I’m sure it helps.


Nice-Zookeepergame82

This guy molotovs


Samuraisaurus

I’ll turn any smoke shop into a smoked shop


robnuts

Terrorists win https://youtu.be/teCmcx6tG40?si=7TwVkd0SJLNU8rri


SufficientStudy5178

I'm loving how arson attacks are becoming a weekly occurrence without the slightest hint of care or reaction from Government lol. It's like even pretending to care is too much effort for them now.


Loose_Loquat9584

The police must know who is behind it, but until someone innocent gets burnt up they’ll let it go, just like the underworld war when they didn’t give a shit till they started shooting people at Auskick.


AdAdministrative9362

Cheaper and more efficient than going through the courts.


Loose_Loquat9584

Tell that to the upstairs renter who is a potential firebomb victim.


ososalsosal

If the rent is good I'll take the risk


Loose_Loquat9584

Bijou apartment close to shops and intermittent central heating.


ososalsosal

Rustic kitchen perfect for woodfired pizza


throw_this_away_k

"Let them burn each others stores, that way civilians have to buy from supermarkets"


fa-jita

They did arrest 3 bike gang members on arson chargers about a month ago - so they are certainly chasing people.


Loose_Loquat9584

Fair point but it doesn’t seem to have stopped the attacks yet.


Stuckinthevortex

I can't imagine the shop owners are eager to talk to the police


reofi

you seem to be the one sleeping since it has a police taskforce assigned to it?


Creative_Rock_7246

Too busy busting Vapers


johngizzard

Or waiting for another autistic teenager to run experiments on


bestvanillayoghurt

Let the scum sort themselves out.


hellions123

Underbelly gonna be crazy next season


Stuckinthevortex

Underbelly: Fire and Smokes


fitzroyalty1

Name will be changed to under Lebo bikie


Wide-Plenty-3751

Underbelly: Manchester 20’s


TheUnderWall

Do these places even make money? I never see people in them. Reminds of the ice cream shops in Williamstown that keep on getting firebombed.


preparetodobattle

They used to be visa mills. Come in on a business visas to get franchise. Employee yourself. Wait till you get whatever you need out of it. Sell it on to the next person coming in. Not sure if that's still the case.


bestvanillayoghurt

"African Wigs"


Gore01976

>Do these places even make money? I never see people in them. yep kinda, I still go to 1 every few weeks and drop a couple of hundred to stock up on the vapes.


Wankeritis

If you ever decide you want to quit, read Allen Carr’s book. I read it about 10 years ago and went from a pack of 50 every two days to zero over night.


fa-jita

I did the same. But you also do have to want to quit - if you don’t, the book or anything else won’t help.


Wankeritis

I actually didn’t really care about quitting when I read the book. I was asked to read it by a family member.


rworange

Read it about 3 weeks ago to stop vaping, totally worked!


Wankeritis

Woo hoo! I’m proud of you!


NotBradPitt90

Is that why he's got an annoying voice or is that Alan Carr?


Wankeritis

That’s Alan Carr. Allen Carr is(was?) a self-help dude. He was a chimney smoker who quit and wrote a book about it. Has helped heaps of people give up addictions.


Gore01976

Cheers, but as for another post where I stock drinks in mini fridge next my work bench for my team members. I also do the same with the vapes as I am close to one still selling for a reasonable price.


Due-End2269

Allen Carr chatty man


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denizberdan

Hope the brand is not Master Lock


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fh3131

Ah ha but it's actually a booby trap. As soon as you remove it, you get boiling water and oil poured on you, medieval castle style


GrizzlyGoober

Suspended anvil above the door


hebdomad7

I would have gone for a Grand Piano for the greater AOE. But an Anvil has more damage...


justdylsie

it has to be an ACME anvil otherwise the person won't have birds, stars, & dust flying around their head


Orichalchem

Where's the money Lebowski??


Significant_Leg8595

You pissed on my rug, man


Undertaker-3806

It's, it's down there somewhere. Let me take another look.


Bitter_Magician_6969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP7e6aFJGGo


LagoonReflection

Surprised they didn't set up a system of sprinklers on the outside to produce a continuous stream of water down the side of the shop like a waterfall.


Moo_Kau_Too

it was suggested, and they looked into how to do that, but then they got the advice of 'dont go chasing waterfalls'


LagoonReflection

I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all day now.


Moo_Kau_Too

dont sing it under your breath out of tune in a higher pitched voice, youll sound like a scrub if you do. i dont want no scrubs.


ososalsosal

Wish.com arts centre


Wankeritis

Add some LEDs behind the waterfall. Like one of those bogan statues of the early 2000s.


commeconn

Install bollards and fortify doors, but leave a window rattler aircon hanging in the front.


shmolives

That's actually a booby-trap, if it detects liquid or heat it blasts a pulse of gas out like an exhaust, turning it into a flamethrower for a brief period. Owned by the McAllisters.


AussiePolarBear

How is the general public ok with what’s going on. Will it take an innocent bystander or neighboring business/house to get caught up. Ridiculous that the government and authorities are publicly doing nothing


fr4nklin_84

The problem is it’s organized crime/bikies. If you speak out publicly against them you will learn the hard way. Look at friendlyjordies, I’m pretty sure he’ll be in hiding for a long time. what I heard was (in NSW atleast) they made it illegal for bikies to own tattoo shops. Go back 10 years and tattoo shops were being firebombed regularly. Now they’re all in on tabaco and chicken shops. In western Syd a few years back there was a phase when chicken shops were being firebombed regularly. The bikies still control the tattoo shops from a distance, I know of someone of who started a small custom shop and had to get permission from the local club and agree that it would be by appointment only (no walk ins) and I’m pretty sure they’d be paying them some money ongoing too. It’s a sick world that pretty much operates in plain sight but goes untalked about


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JumpingTheLine

He posted a video calling out John Barillaro's links to organised crime then his house was firebombed and he started recieving death threats.


Proof_Contribution

We are not ok. Caulfield South had one go up the other day when there are apartments above and around it. It was right across from Bugertory btw.


AussiePolarBear

I don’t see any outrage


Proof_Contribution

Yeah which is weird esp for The Herald Sun


bestvanillayoghurt

You know it's a legitimate business when...


TK000421

Pretty easy. Pry bar that ac unit out or smash it through forwards. Fire in the hole Wait dont do that


Ok-Attitude-9201

is this the one on Anderson? I hadn't even noticed


drunkill

i bet they don't have approval from the council for using up the public footpath and i reckon they didn't dial before you dig and came close to fitting something down there.


Slayers_Picks

Probably paid off the council a few million in hush.


rocifan

How are the bollards and reinforced door mean't to stop someone setting fire to the shop?


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They usually drive a stolen car into the shop and then set it ablaze. Can’t do that if bollards are in the way.


rocifan

Oh wow.. OK


NJG82

Some people around the area are making it known that they're not happy when a tobacconist sets up shop around them too. A lot of new stores popping up in the inner west the last few months.


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How the hell they get away with putting bollards on a public walk way? Unless that section of land is on the title...


neverfolds

Ahmed “and I took that personally”


BowlerSea1569

The burger shop was a h8 crime


CardiologistNo5561

There is more than one way to skin a tobacco shop.


mookizee

Who the fuck is leasing these properties to tabacco shops if the potential for your property burning down goes from 1% to like 80%? And why aren't we hearing uproar from the neighbouring shops that become at risk when one sets up? What happens with the cost of the insurance once they know its a new tabacco shop?


Hemanmou

The governments ridiculous tax on tobacco has resulted in an underground black market for illegal tobacco so lucrative


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Its sad that people immigrate here and bring their shitty mentality and ways here to make society collectively worse for all of us. This is not Bruce from Broadmeadows fire bombing people's businesses.


shmolives

Lol, fuck off it isn't, plenty of 'aussie' bikies ya racist bloody drongo.


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It's not racist if it's widely known that these fire bombings are being perpetrated by middle eastern crime gangs. Calling a spade a spade isn't racist. And just FYI many of the Aussie bikies you refer to are actually of Lebanese descent.


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You gotta stop watching so many mafia movies buddy, you're starting to believe the bullshit. This has gotta be fake. No one can be as dumb as you're pretending to be. They wouldn't be able to remember to breathe.


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Oh, so you're genuinely delusional. I didn't say there was zero crime, that would be dumb as fuck. Apparently it's now a lefty position to not believe movies are real life.


ckhumanck

that's seriously some rose tinted glasses history. It's like how no one can touch a "made man" except they all get murdered. There was never any magical "gentleman's code".


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ckhumanck

Just look at the literal history of crime. That was my point, it may be a stupid "rule" like not being allowed to touch a "made man" but they still all got touched. There's no honour in the mafia.


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ckhumanck

they called themselves that.


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ckhumanck

so your position is that pre 1970, the mafia never hurt any civilians as collateral damage?


Beast_of_Guanyin

Deport bor Australians? Yeah. No.


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Such_is

How do you deport someone who was born here to Australian parents? My father wasn't born here, would you deport me to the Netherlands? You reckon the Netherlands (or whatever country these alleged gangs are from) would accept them?


Beast_of_Guanyin

>Upon citizenship ceremonies these gangster families pledge to our authorities that they will abide by the rules and be sensible Australians. You said Australian born. Australian citizens are ours. I wouldn't want the reverse to happen either.


BaIdSnacc

This is some dumb shit I’m reading here. You clearly don’t understand that the job of the police is to investigate, arrest and prosecute, not sentence. It’s ultimately up to the bloody magistrate to decide what happens to the offender


Rhino893405

How do you deport somebody who was born here?


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Rhino893405

So anybody who commits a serious can be deported? Where to? Where their parents were born? Grandparents? Other countries don’t want our trash, you can’t legally do it anyway.


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dav_oid

Jeez.


mad_marbled

Yet the one in Borrack square is a fairly relaxed affair. Maybe it's the regular late night activity around those shops that acts as a deterrent.


Gatesy840

Nah, just push for the right people most likely


boommdcx

Protection monies or bollards? 🤔


APuticulahInduhvidul

I thought this was preparation for the Zombie Apocalypse


Hungry-Sea-1288

As a community we do not tolerate this behaviour, the state government needs to remember they work for us, 20 minimum jail, innocent people are having their lives etc put at risk, personally I would rather summary execution for the scum that do this


dish2688

I live in Yarraville & I have no idea where this shop is


highlyeducated247

It's the main strip on Anderson Street


dish2688

Is it? The newsagent? I never thought it was a smokes shop. Clearly I don’t look at the signage


highlyeducated247

Haha. Opposite end mate, across from IGA


dish2688

Hahaha…shows how much I pay attention to smoke shops…never noticed it 😳🙄🤣🤣


highlyeducated247

Hahahaha to be fair its a smoke screen. The building actually isn't even real it's all an illusion. Like a Tupac hologram kinda dealy. If you buy cigarettes there they will disappear when the sun goes down.


melbdaveo1980

Challenge accepted......just kidding


Modflog

They forgot about the aircon, no fortifications on that bad boy, and Mohammed will just light her up cause they said he can’t.