Had a guy who had been working at a store for 6 years and had never taken a day off and didn't even know he had accrued Leave before I told him he should take some time off.
He had 24 weeks of leave saved up that no previous manager or HR person had told him about. I had gotten wind of the store getting shut down before the year was out and I told him I would give him the okay to take all of it now so they couldn't fuck him around when it happened.
He came back the day we closed the store.
Well, yes, but we were talking about the tax, not leave loading. I get something like 20% leave loading at work, so in my mind it's better to take the leave then cash it out. But each to their own.
Lots of people don't understand that earring more and this jumping up a tax bracket won't actually leave you with less money. (Except in certain specific circumstances)
It can in this exact scenario. You don't want to get a bulk payout in June which is taxed marginally higher than if you took it as leave from June to September.
It depends on if you value the money or the time.
Bulk 4 weeks+52 weeks work+0 weeks leave is better financially then a bulk 0 weeks+48 weeks work+4 weeks leave unless you earn extra income while you’re on the 4 weeks leave
The amount was 17 weeks not 4, but they didn't have a choice anyway. If you did you would prefer the payout in July as opposed to June (especially if you will be out of work for a while afterwards). When you are paid the 17 weeks at once it is treated as salary earned in that pay period and you will lose 50% of it in tax. When you do your tax return you won't get as much back if it pushed you into a higher bracket. Taking it as leave like the person above said (June to Sep) would leave you better off
No. Unused annual leave when made redundant or due to invalidity is taxed at a flat withholding tax rate of 32%
https://www.ato.gov.au/Forms/Withholding-from-unused-leave-payments-on-termination-of-employment/?page=4
That's not what that means. The withholding rate is just an estimated tax rate the company uses to calculate an amount to deduct from your payments. This is not your actual tax rate. The actual tax will be calculated at the end of the financial year, and you'll either have to pay the difference between what's been withheld and what you owe, or get a refund if you've had more withheld than the amount you owe.
The article you linked doesn't say there's any different tax bracket applied to that income, so you'd have to pay tax on it as if it were any other form of income.
Still not wrong though depending on whether your tax bracket is < 32%.
To be clear I mean you might pay less tax by taking leave. The other guy was wrong about th reasoning tho
I used to work at AGL many moons ago and there were a few oldies who had been working there since it was called Australian Gas Lighting. Their workplace agreements from back then had a mandatory pay rises each year and zero limit on how much long service and annual leave they could accrue. From what I recall, a lot of them were on 100k+ also.
AGL outsourced a lot of those staff like metering, new connections etc and made a lot of people redundant. Ssome of those oldies took advantage of that and ended up getting paid out a pretty penny. One of the guys there named Ken had something like 3 years of leave and was paid out every cent. Top bloke too. Was super happy for the lucky bastard!
Same sort of scenario at Powercor from back when it was SEC. One guy had been there 50+ years but plenty of oldies about especially in the depots, most had started as linesmen apprentices, all got mandatory 4% pay increases annually and yearly bonus. Then a couple of years ago mass restructure cleared all of them out. No one gets conditions like that anymore, its all unpaid overtime and temp contractors now
Usually when just making ends meet, or when their role is very central and they're not able to take leave because there would be no replacement for them
As long as you have 4 weeks leftover, you can ask to cash out annual leave. Better to do that then have your employer go bankrupt and you loose the lot. How anyone can fo year’s without talking leave is beyond me. I accrue a few week and am like, what can I do with it!
As long as you're getting reasonable pay increases (5-10% annually, hell even 3% COLA increases will keep track with bank interest) the value of those annual leave hours should actually keep pace with what you'd expect to earn in interest anyway, as the eventual payout will be at your final payout will be at your pay rate at the time, even if the hours were earned at a lower one.
Question. If i was to ask for some to be cashed out and as long as i had 4 weeks left over, is the employer within their rights to say no to cashing out?
Most awards have a clause that allows cashing out of annual leave. I’d give the FWO a call to see what applies to your circumstances and then approach your boss to see what you can work out. Most annual leave is by agreement, but if you have an excessive amount you may be able to force it.
I knew of a dude who had 40 weeks of long service leave. Started teaching at 18, back when the department of education would sponsor you to study teaching so you were an employee for your uni training. At age 58 he took all of it. He was off on full pay from December 20th to January 30th over a year later.
Damn I'm real jealous of all the people with full time jobs rn. I feel like with the casualisation of the workforce we're going to see more and more people with no annual leave or holidays at all, as well as no sick leave. I've never had either.
It’s absolutely atrocious how dire employment has gotten in Australia. I’m 30 and have just been made permanent. My years of casual service means nothing really. You could potentially work your whole life casually. Take a break and they’ve replaced you in your absence. So insecure.
Back when I worked at Aust Post (this is going back decades), there was a guy I worked with who had almost a year of AL accrued, and who also had 30 years worth of LSL owing.
Back in the mid 90's they had a big redundancy drive and after they calculated his leave owing, paid out his super and redundancy payments - he ended up walking away with just under $500k! He then walked straight into a job in the IPO helping countries in the South Pacific setup electonic mail systems (this was the mid-90's afterall).
The guy was a legend and lived at the Queensbridge Hotel - back before it was a night-club - and had no life/family, etc except for work so he never took leave and I can never remember him being sick.
His daily routine as far as I knew was get up, go to work, go home, have a counter-meal and a few drinks at the bar, walk upstairs and go to bed, and then rinse and repeat.
Edit: typing this out reminds me of all the funny stories he used to tell about the days in the old PMG before vesting.
Edit 2: Added the word "worth" - it didn't make it from my brain to my fingers when I made the post.
30 years LSL, i'm quite sure would be just about impossible to accrue. You get 8 weeks after 10 years of service. I think OP means 30 years of service worth, not 30 full years of LSL lol.
Sick my man! We go there yearly for our annual food pilgrimage, it never gets boring that place! Cherry blossom season is stupidly beautiful though! I might do the same next year :)
A team lead I fell under but didn't exactly report to apparently had 1 or 2 years worth of TIL banked through OT, leave etc.
He's been working there for 12 years and that figure was from 2 years ago. Apparently, HR didn't really approve leave and time off so what ended up happening was you were given the option to take your hourly rate worth in gift cards.
At one point the whole team and I needed to put in a few extra hours on a weekend and days after work. I was contracting back then so I got paid time and a half, but the guys walked away with gift cards to Myer etc.
>but the guys walked away with gift cards to Myer etc.
That can't be fucking legal.
Edit: If you're paid by the hour, fuck TIL also. They can pay OT or they can get fucked.
I had about 8 weeks saved up at my old job. Just before my contract ended, my supervisor called me into her office and forced me to apply for all that leave just so I couldn't cash it out.
I wanted to decline because I hadn't started looking for a new job yet, and was kind of relying on that payout for my unemployment. I remember my supervisor pulling out a calendar and counting back 8 weeks from my contract end date and telling me I had to apply for leave from that date. I ended up agreeing because I needed a good reference from her.
I later learnt that this was an unofficial policy there; no one was allowed their annual leave payouts.
51 days when I left for maternity leave. I’m taking three weeks of it as extra. They have something in the system that catches you at 60 days unless the manager checks early, but I got lucky and flew under the radar.
Knew a guy who had worked for decades at a place - accrued so much that they basically told him that from now on - you only work Mon-Thur - every Fri is a leave day for you now.
Sold for over a hundred million?
If he was that pivotal and didn't see any of that, then that really sucks. A shame he couldn't negotiate some sort of share ownership in all that time
We are forced at 12 weeks/3 months to take a break and L/S comes after 7 years full time...another 3 months paid leave with an R.D.O every 2 weeks I'm happy where I am😊
A few guys at my last job had over 1000 hours of annual leave, quite a few RDOs and a heap of long service leave.
Then we got made redundant and they got big payouts.
My first boss told me he had enough to take Monday and Friday off for a year and then some.
Sadly, the reason he had that leave is because he *couldn't* take days off owing to him being critical day-to-day to a struggling business.
We have a guy retiring next week. 108 weeks of annual leave / long service about to be paid out (at $70 an hour) and 120 weeks of sick leave lost to the abyss.
Worked for the same company since May 77.
I think I've got 55 days of A/L, after four years. We're not supposed to accrue more than four weeks. I've been flat stick for the past 3.5 years and I like the work so haven't had much of an opportunity. Plus I don't want to waste it. There's some sort of hit list which HR produce very month and for all the ooh-aah about my AL balance there are dozens of people with more. One of the GM's has a huge amount of AL accrued - probably three lots of LSL and a bunch of AL they've not taken.
In a previous company, in another industry, some of the FIFO (7 on/7 off) had huge amounts of leave accrued. They literally accrued it faster than they could reasonably take it!
67 weeks.
When he was forced to retire as senior health architect for the DHS, due to long overdue emphysema, my dad had 67 weeks of sick leave. He never...ever took a day off and when he did, it was to die. Took him many more days and even years than 67, but still. Was sort of helpful. Family is still financially fucked from it, tho. Shrug.
My nan brags how my pop left the SEC with “three hundred days of unused leave” like it was some sort of honour.
I asked if he got paid out a years worth of wages at retirement, she said he got a gold watch and i laughed for a full minute.
Not really AL
But Ambos and Fireys get 2-3 months off per year (the roster means they work 48h in 8 days, so accrue a substantial amount of time in lieu, plus public holidays and your standard AL entitlement).
As a result you get 2 months off every odd year, and 3 months every even year (or vice versa).
One bloke apparantly didnt take leave for a few years prior to retirement. Just worked his normal 4-on-4-off rosta out in the country, then got paid for basically his entire final year in the service to not do a single shift when he called in all the owed AL.
Although u/melbourneambo will probably tell me its a load of bollocks. They do now force you to book leave each year or its booked for you.
Yeah you can split it but generally the annual leave is locked in. With a good TM though you can organize certain roster blocks
Things like long service, bereavement etc can be applied for through the payroll kiosk
Last time I checked (November 2016) my leave was:
* 63 days AL
* 11.3 weeks LSL
So probably slightly above that currently.
It could even be higher, but I've taken it as a lump sum 2-3 times.
I left my previous employer with around 300 hours (40 days?), cashed it out when I left. And as others have said, better to just take the leave instead of cashing out.
In a previous role, I worked in claims for a super fund for education professionals.
So many who would reach LSL eligibility or retirement age, and then use their ridiculous amount of sick leave, get a medical certificate claiming work stress, and then once that expired, put through an income protection claim for mental illness, and would sit on that till age 65.
They tightened that definition up very quickly.
The personal best i know was my dad - used to work for the Age, did so for 25 odd years. When he finished up there, his untaken leave and all other sundries added up to a goddamn $600,000 payout. He bought a house.
I have a family member who has over a year in leave. Mostly accumulated long service leave. He's also on some crazy grandfathered public sector super scheme that hasn't been available for many years, but he's still on it as he started with this employer in like 1980 or something.
VicPol is very strict with leave and you need special permission to bring leave from one financial year into the next. I've heard of people accruing a few extra days off here and there but nowhere near as much as some other examples in this thread.
It's not the holidaying bit I don't like, it's the paying bit that's the problem.
I got a mortgage to pay off, why the heck would I want to dump a stack of money on a luxury I can't afford?
I can't afford to take holidays
If we didn't have mandatory shutdown over Xmas, I would have a hell of a lot more
I take a day here and there for extra long weekends though
Depends on your work.
I was a shift worker and rather than pay me overtime to be on call, I was given time-in-lieu (1/2 day off for every 1 day of being on call). I was pretty much on call twice a month on weekends (Sat & Sun x Twice/Month x 12 months = 48 days / half = 24 additional off days) plus some late night work on a few weekdays sprinkled throughout the year. By the end of the year, I don't think I ever needed to touch my allocated annual leave at all.
When I quit that role, I had 22 weeks of AL accrued which was paid out in cash. This is with me taking roughly 3-4 weeks of a year (mostly Dec/Jan) and the occasional additional day or two over some long public holiday weekends (i.e. easter).
Annual Leave. Who gets that? If i don't work. No pay. Haven't been paid for a day off in years. If im sick i have to come to work. Permanent jobs don't exist in Melbourne
The same comment reversed would get downvoted too I suppose.
"No annual Leave, who gets that? If i don't work, I get payed. I've been paid for every day off i've had in years. If im sick, i don't have to come to work. Casual jobs don't exist in Melbourne"
I had shitloads
We get 5 weeks a year
But I only work 4 days a week and get regular 6 day breaks
Add in DIL’ s and lots of sick leave it builds up quickly and we still get lots of time off
So I cash it out, still managed to have 7 months off work in the last 12 months as LSL came around too
Had a guy who had been working at a store for 6 years and had never taken a day off and didn't even know he had accrued Leave before I told him he should take some time off. He had 24 weeks of leave saved up that no previous manager or HR person had told him about. I had gotten wind of the store getting shut down before the year was out and I told him I would give him the okay to take all of it now so they couldn't fuck him around when it happened. He came back the day we closed the store.
The real MVP right here!
Good on you for looking after your staff member - we need more managers who take an employee-first attitude to business management.
Thank you, unfortunately being that type of manager usually ends up having to take on all the bullshit from corporate.
I had 17 weeks at one place, then I got made redundant, after that, the company put a rule in place, saying you cant accrue more then 6 weeks
You would have got taxed for it though. Better to take the leave IMO
You get taxed either way lol
I didn't have a choice, I was out the door
Apparently if you get leave loading, that only applies if you take the leave, so you also miss out on that if you get paid out.
Well, yes, but we were talking about the tax, not leave loading. I get something like 20% leave loading at work, so in my mind it's better to take the leave then cash it out. But each to their own.
Yeah, I was agreeing with you there. Even without leave loading,
If you take a large lump sum at once it can push you to a higher tax bracket, so you get taxed more.
You get taxed more on the portion in the higher tax bracket...
That’s true. Your point?
Lots of people don't understand that earring more and this jumping up a tax bracket won't actually leave you with less money. (Except in certain specific circumstances)
It can in this exact scenario. You don't want to get a bulk payout in June which is taxed marginally higher than if you took it as leave from June to September.
It depends on if you value the money or the time. Bulk 4 weeks+52 weeks work+0 weeks leave is better financially then a bulk 0 weeks+48 weeks work+4 weeks leave unless you earn extra income while you’re on the 4 weeks leave
The amount was 17 weeks not 4, but they didn't have a choice anyway. If you did you would prefer the payout in July as opposed to June (especially if you will be out of work for a while afterwards). When you are paid the 17 weeks at once it is treated as salary earned in that pay period and you will lose 50% of it in tax. When you do your tax return you won't get as much back if it pushed you into a higher bracket. Taking it as leave like the person above said (June to Sep) would leave you better off
Which is why we submit our tax returns...
You still have the potential to pay more tax.
In very rare circumstances.
No. Unused annual leave when made redundant or due to invalidity is taxed at a flat withholding tax rate of 32% https://www.ato.gov.au/Forms/Withholding-from-unused-leave-payments-on-termination-of-employment/?page=4
That's not what that means. The withholding rate is just an estimated tax rate the company uses to calculate an amount to deduct from your payments. This is not your actual tax rate. The actual tax will be calculated at the end of the financial year, and you'll either have to pay the difference between what's been withheld and what you owe, or get a refund if you've had more withheld than the amount you owe. The article you linked doesn't say there's any different tax bracket applied to that income, so you'd have to pay tax on it as if it were any other form of income.
Still not wrong though depending on whether your tax bracket is < 32%. To be clear I mean you might pay less tax by taking leave. The other guy was wrong about th reasoning tho
Yes I agree.
Receptionist had 51 weeks at my last place
Wow. That's like 13 straight years without taking any time off. Madness.
She has been there for 35 years
Wow. That’s some job security!
I used to work at AGL many moons ago and there were a few oldies who had been working there since it was called Australian Gas Lighting. Their workplace agreements from back then had a mandatory pay rises each year and zero limit on how much long service and annual leave they could accrue. From what I recall, a lot of them were on 100k+ also. AGL outsourced a lot of those staff like metering, new connections etc and made a lot of people redundant. Ssome of those oldies took advantage of that and ended up getting paid out a pretty penny. One of the guys there named Ken had something like 3 years of leave and was paid out every cent. Top bloke too. Was super happy for the lucky bastard!
Same sort of scenario at Powercor from back when it was SEC. One guy had been there 50+ years but plenty of oldies about especially in the depots, most had started as linesmen apprentices, all got mandatory 4% pay increases annually and yearly bonus. Then a couple of years ago mass restructure cleared all of them out. No one gets conditions like that anymore, its all unpaid overtime and temp contractors now
As a teacher our annual leave is set for dec jan, however we accrue sick leave. My coworker had 150 days. Then she contracted whooping cough.
Damn.
I’ve woes with people that had over 600 days of A/L + RDO’s saves up. It’s crazy
How do people even save up that much? Is it part of a master plan or do they never want to take vacations?
Usually when just making ends meet, or when their role is very central and they're not able to take leave because there would be no replacement for them
As long as you have 4 weeks leftover, you can ask to cash out annual leave. Better to do that then have your employer go bankrupt and you loose the lot. How anyone can fo year’s without talking leave is beyond me. I accrue a few week and am like, what can I do with it!
And you can have the cash in the bank, so you're earning the interest, and not the employer.
As long as you're getting reasonable pay increases (5-10% annually, hell even 3% COLA increases will keep track with bank interest) the value of those annual leave hours should actually keep pace with what you'd expect to earn in interest anyway, as the eventual payout will be at your final payout will be at your pay rate at the time, even if the hours were earned at a lower one.
Question. If i was to ask for some to be cashed out and as long as i had 4 weeks left over, is the employer within their rights to say no to cashing out?
Most awards have a clause that allows cashing out of annual leave. I’d give the FWO a call to see what applies to your circumstances and then approach your boss to see what you can work out. Most annual leave is by agreement, but if you have an excessive amount you may be able to force it.
I knew of a dude who had 40 weeks of long service leave. Started teaching at 18, back when the department of education would sponsor you to study teaching so you were an employee for your uni training. At age 58 he took all of it. He was off on full pay from December 20th to January 30th over a year later.
Damn I'm real jealous of all the people with full time jobs rn. I feel like with the casualisation of the workforce we're going to see more and more people with no annual leave or holidays at all, as well as no sick leave. I've never had either.
It’s absolutely atrocious how dire employment has gotten in Australia. I’m 30 and have just been made permanent. My years of casual service means nothing really. You could potentially work your whole life casually. Take a break and they’ve replaced you in your absence. So insecure.
Don't blame the people with jobs, its those in power who have made it this way
Where am I blaming the people with jobs? I know how it works and who to blame, thanks.
130 days of sick leave here *cough* *cough*
111 sick 78 long service. Planning on using it when I'm old and close to retirement.
Better get that cough looked at.
62 days personal leave 94 annual Long service kicks in next year
Back when I worked at Aust Post (this is going back decades), there was a guy I worked with who had almost a year of AL accrued, and who also had 30 years worth of LSL owing. Back in the mid 90's they had a big redundancy drive and after they calculated his leave owing, paid out his super and redundancy payments - he ended up walking away with just under $500k! He then walked straight into a job in the IPO helping countries in the South Pacific setup electonic mail systems (this was the mid-90's afterall). The guy was a legend and lived at the Queensbridge Hotel - back before it was a night-club - and had no life/family, etc except for work so he never took leave and I can never remember him being sick. His daily routine as far as I knew was get up, go to work, go home, have a counter-meal and a few drinks at the bar, walk upstairs and go to bed, and then rinse and repeat. Edit: typing this out reminds me of all the funny stories he used to tell about the days in the old PMG before vesting. Edit 2: Added the word "worth" - it didn't make it from my brain to my fingers when I made the post.
> 30 years of LSL owing. How the fuck do you accrue that much long service leave? Probably impossible today!
30 years LSL, i'm quite sure would be just about impossible to accrue. You get 8 weeks after 10 years of service. I think OP means 30 years of service worth, not 30 full years of LSL lol.
Currently sitting on 227 hours, going to be using it all when my partner and i go to Japan in September :)
You and I are in the same boat. I'm sitting on 198 atm. When are you guys leaving?
Just edited my comment for September! What are you going to do with your AL?
Niceee! Same as you, holidaying Japan! Not going anytime soon though, looking to go for cherry blossom season next year.
Sick my man! We go there yearly for our annual food pilgrimage, it never gets boring that place! Cherry blossom season is stupidly beautiful though! I might do the same next year :)
A team lead I fell under but didn't exactly report to apparently had 1 or 2 years worth of TIL banked through OT, leave etc. He's been working there for 12 years and that figure was from 2 years ago. Apparently, HR didn't really approve leave and time off so what ended up happening was you were given the option to take your hourly rate worth in gift cards. At one point the whole team and I needed to put in a few extra hours on a weekend and days after work. I was contracting back then so I got paid time and a half, but the guys walked away with gift cards to Myer etc.
>but the guys walked away with gift cards to Myer etc. That can't be fucking legal. Edit: If you're paid by the hour, fuck TIL also. They can pay OT or they can get fucked.
I've had this happen to, but I always insist on pre-paid VISAs so I can use them for online bills and stuff
I had about 8 weeks saved up at my old job. Just before my contract ended, my supervisor called me into her office and forced me to apply for all that leave just so I couldn't cash it out.
Did you do it or respectfully decline?
I wanted to decline because I hadn't started looking for a new job yet, and was kind of relying on that payout for my unemployment. I remember my supervisor pulling out a calendar and counting back 8 weeks from my contract end date and telling me I had to apply for leave from that date. I ended up agreeing because I needed a good reference from her. I later learnt that this was an unofficial policy there; no one was allowed their annual leave payouts.
51 days when I left for maternity leave. I’m taking three weeks of it as extra. They have something in the system that catches you at 60 days unless the manager checks early, but I got lucky and flew under the radar.
Knew a guy who had worked for decades at a place - accrued so much that they basically told him that from now on - you only work Mon-Thur - every Fri is a leave day for you now.
Yeah I did that a few years back when I was asked to take leave because I had to much AL. Ended up doing 4 day weeks for many many months.
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Sold for over a hundred million? If he was that pivotal and didn't see any of that, then that really sucks. A shame he couldn't negotiate some sort of share ownership in all that time
I had like 12-14 weeks when I was planning to take a couple of months off.
My coworker has 300 days of a combination of annual leave and long service leave
Not including long service leave we are forced to take holidays after we accumulate around 8 weeks.
We are forced at 12 weeks/3 months to take a break and L/S comes after 7 years full time...another 3 months paid leave with an R.D.O every 2 weeks I'm happy where I am😊
Something in the region of 2000 hours.
A few guys at my last job had over 1000 hours of annual leave, quite a few RDOs and a heap of long service leave. Then we got made redundant and they got big payouts.
My first boss told me he had enough to take Monday and Friday off for a year and then some. Sadly, the reason he had that leave is because he *couldn't* take days off owing to him being critical day-to-day to a struggling business.
We have a guy retiring next week. 108 weeks of annual leave / long service about to be paid out (at $70 an hour) and 120 weeks of sick leave lost to the abyss. Worked for the same company since May 77.
Currently on 9.7 weeks of long service leave and 9.8 weeks of annual leave/days in lieu.
I think I've got 55 days of A/L, after four years. We're not supposed to accrue more than four weeks. I've been flat stick for the past 3.5 years and I like the work so haven't had much of an opportunity. Plus I don't want to waste it. There's some sort of hit list which HR produce very month and for all the ooh-aah about my AL balance there are dozens of people with more. One of the GM's has a huge amount of AL accrued - probably three lots of LSL and a bunch of AL they've not taken. In a previous company, in another industry, some of the FIFO (7 on/7 off) had huge amounts of leave accrued. They literally accrued it faster than they could reasonably take it!
67 weeks. When he was forced to retire as senior health architect for the DHS, due to long overdue emphysema, my dad had 67 weeks of sick leave. He never...ever took a day off and when he did, it was to die. Took him many more days and even years than 67, but still. Was sort of helpful. Family is still financially fucked from it, tho. Shrug.
My nan brags how my pop left the SEC with “three hundred days of unused leave” like it was some sort of honour. I asked if he got paid out a years worth of wages at retirement, she said he got a gold watch and i laughed for a full minute.
Not really AL But Ambos and Fireys get 2-3 months off per year (the roster means they work 48h in 8 days, so accrue a substantial amount of time in lieu, plus public holidays and your standard AL entitlement). As a result you get 2 months off every odd year, and 3 months every even year (or vice versa). One bloke apparantly didnt take leave for a few years prior to retirement. Just worked his normal 4-on-4-off rosta out in the country, then got paid for basically his entire final year in the service to not do a single shift when he called in all the owed AL. Although u/melbourneambo will probably tell me its a load of bollocks. They do now force you to book leave each year or its booked for you.
Nah this pretty much on the money. We get allocated the annual leave in blocks though, no opportunity to pick ourselves when we get that time off
Well you can apply for certain months, just no guarantee and no ability to stack leave.
Yeah you can split it but generally the annual leave is locked in. With a good TM though you can organize certain roster blocks Things like long service, bereavement etc can be applied for through the payroll kiosk
Last time I checked (November 2016) my leave was: * 63 days AL * 11.3 weeks LSL So probably slightly above that currently. It could even be higher, but I've taken it as a lump sum 2-3 times.
I left my previous employer with around 300 hours (40 days?), cashed it out when I left. And as others have said, better to just take the leave instead of cashing out.
In a previous role, I worked in claims for a super fund for education professionals. So many who would reach LSL eligibility or retirement age, and then use their ridiculous amount of sick leave, get a medical certificate claiming work stress, and then once that expired, put through an income protection claim for mental illness, and would sit on that till age 65. They tightened that definition up very quickly.
The personal best i know was my dad - used to work for the Age, did so for 25 odd years. When he finished up there, his untaken leave and all other sundries added up to a goddamn $600,000 payout. He bought a house.
I have a family member who has over a year in leave. Mostly accumulated long service leave. He's also on some crazy grandfathered public sector super scheme that hasn't been available for many years, but he's still on it as he started with this employer in like 1980 or something.
VicPol is very strict with leave and you need special permission to bring leave from one financial year into the next. I've heard of people accruing a few extra days off here and there but nowhere near as much as some other examples in this thread.
Do people not like taking holidays or something?
It's not the holidaying bit I don't like, it's the paying bit that's the problem. I got a mortgage to pay off, why the heck would I want to dump a stack of money on a luxury I can't afford?
I get that, but what about free time away from work? Nothing wrong with a staycation and just having a break from work at home.
I can't afford to take holidays If we didn't have mandatory shutdown over Xmas, I would have a hell of a lot more I take a day here and there for extra long weekends though
Depends on your work. I was a shift worker and rather than pay me overtime to be on call, I was given time-in-lieu (1/2 day off for every 1 day of being on call). I was pretty much on call twice a month on weekends (Sat & Sun x Twice/Month x 12 months = 48 days / half = 24 additional off days) plus some late night work on a few weekdays sprinkled throughout the year. By the end of the year, I don't think I ever needed to touch my allocated annual leave at all. When I quit that role, I had 22 weeks of AL accrued which was paid out in cash. This is with me taking roughly 3-4 weeks of a year (mostly Dec/Jan) and the occasional additional day or two over some long public holiday weekends (i.e. easter).
Annual Leave. Who gets that? If i don't work. No pay. Haven't been paid for a day off in years. If im sick i have to come to work. Permanent jobs don't exist in Melbourne
I dunno why this is getting downvotes- it’s a reality for a huge number of Australians
The same comment reversed would get downvoted too I suppose. "No annual Leave, who gets that? If i don't work, I get payed. I've been paid for every day off i've had in years. If im sick, i don't have to come to work. Casual jobs don't exist in Melbourne"
Nope. Not at all. My team is advertising for 2 right now. One application so far.
I've currently got 25 days annual, 13 weeks long service, and 50 days sick leave
Annual 20.7 Weeks Sickleave 16.6 Weeks Just looked it up lol...
I had shitloads We get 5 weeks a year But I only work 4 days a week and get regular 6 day breaks Add in DIL’ s and lots of sick leave it builds up quickly and we still get lots of time off So I cash it out, still managed to have 7 months off work in the last 12 months as LSL came around too