Don’t use anything by Sergeant’s or Hartz. Both are known for low quality control and making pets sick or die. Toss this bottle of swill out or get your money back.
My fiance lost his cat Luna to a hart flee removing shampoo. It ruined up her nervous system and she started having seizures. Falling off furniture and her perch. She ended up having to wear diapers and had a wheelchair until she passed away.
She had this sweet beautiful face that always lit up whenever you start walking toward her. You make eye contact, she returns it with a meow of excitement and she would scoot over to you.
Fuck. Hartz.
Regulations for pet products are abysmal. You’d be surprised to see how little actual nutritional value most pet foods have because the FDA couldn’t give half a shit about what we’re feeding our pets
Not under FDA jurisdiction but I feed my cats Hill’s Science and even though it’s a HUGE expense for me to be spending around 100 USD a month in cat food, it’s completely worth it knowing I’m providing top shelf nutrition compared to the other 99% of cats in my country. One of them’s fur literally shines in iridescent hues against the sun rays despite the midnight black coat, so I take it as a good sign. I won’t settle for crappy supermarket brands because I’d rather spend it now in good quality of life than later in vet bills trying to barely keep them alive. Before I knew better, Whiskas food was directly responsible for severely shortening a male cat’s lifespan. Fuck low end pet food brands. Fuck them all to hell.
Edit: I get there’s better food out there than Hill’s, but most of the brands I’ve seen suggested under this comment are impossible to get around me unless I ship internationally yadda yadda. Hill’s may not be the absolute best but it certainly isn’t bad and a couple of vets have recommended it, so I’m sticking to it. And no I won’t cook for my cats because I know fuckall about feline nutrition and I care more about them than my ego.
The moment I started feeding my cats proper nutrition (please forgive younger me. No one told me that regular wet food/cat food at the store isn’t the best for them) it was like night and day. My cats hair grew in thick and her bald spots healed up. She stopped having itchy ears and butt and toes. They have more energy and better poops (weird to say, but one had tummy issues). They’re so happy and it just made me mad that this isn’t talked about more. I felt like such a bad cat mom!
The FDA doesn't really cover pet food, you want to look at AAFCO; The Association of American Feed Control Officials.
Hills Science Diet is one of those cat/dog food brands where, while their prescription food is awesome, their over the shelf is just good. Though for the price you're paying, there's better options out there. I just looked up the ingredients for their plain adult cat forumla, and the first few are Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken Fat, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Cracked Pearled Barley, Soybean Meal, and Chicken liver flavor before you start going into the synthetic ingredients. 4lb bag is about $20.
Compared to something like Orijen, and their ingredient label is Chicken, Turkey, Whole Mackerel, Turkey Giblets (Liver, Heart, Gizzard), Flounder, Chicken Liver, Whole Herring, Eggs, Dehydrated Chicken, Dehydrated Turkey, Dehydrated Mackerel, Dehydrated Chicken Liver, Dehydrated Egg, Chicken Fat, Whole Red Lentils, Whole Pinto Beans, Whole Peas, Whole Green Lentils, Whole Chickpeas, Natural Chicken Flavor, Whole Navy Beans, Pollock Oil, Lentil Fiber, Pea Starch, and Chicken Heart before going into the small list of synthetics. $29 for a 4lb bag, so you're paying only $10 more for a lot more actual food ingredients in your cats food.
As I like to put it - if I see wheat, corn, or soy in the first five ingredients of my cats' food I don't give it to them. My cats are not chickens, I refuse to feed them like one.
> Corn Gluten Meal
Nothing says quality like corn as the top 3-4 ingredients for your cat/dog! Seriously, people have no idea that Hill's/Royal Canine over the shelf brands are a bad purchase when it comes down to a cost factor.
They're much better than Whiskas/IAMS/Purina and other junk but my god the prices are crazy when it has so many fillers.
You for sure want food that meets the AAFCO requirements and I always try to point people in the direction of a good value brand that's typically exclusive to the store in question.
I feed my cats a mixture of that and another Rx food (hill's is surprisingly cheaper 😭) and good lord it's expensive. But my boy kept getting urinary blockages and almost died from it so he's worth it
Compare ingredients on the back to say wellness or Merrick. Hills isn’t close to top shelf nutrition with all the fillers they use to make it palatable
Tbh, the FDA barely has enough power to ensure the human food is safe to eat. Wanting them to regulate animal food too is a hopeful wish. The best thing you can do is just not fund the brands that don’t have good quality.
Lol nestle is literally too big to takedown.
Even if all of america stopped buying their products they own a fuck ton of the worlds commercial water supply
But also, it's uplifting to see the wide variety of really high quality food on the market these days!
I mean when I was growing up you just bought ... dog food. Iams, Purina, Bil-Jac. It was all the same cheap shit.
Nowadays you can buy like flash frozen wild moose confit dusted with organic bee farts for $100/lb.
Jokes aside there are a lot of great dog foods on the market these days like Instinct and Orijen and Blue Buffalo and the like that are made with absurdly high-quality ingredients.
Blue Buffalo killed my dog. I won't even buy their treats for our new puppy. They pushed their formula so hard and we believed it. My sweet baby died far too young from heart failure due to a lack of taurine in her early years.
It is the grain free diets that are bad for dogs (after marketing pushed them on us as the healthiest option for our pets for years). In moderation it's OK, but if it's all they eat for every meal they miss out on vital nutrients that can later cause heart problems. Link below for more info
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/outbreaks-and-advisories/fda-investigation-potential-link-between-certain-diets-and-canine-dilated-cardiomyopathy
Blue Buffalo is bullshit. The Marketing director even admitted in an interview that their food was no better than store brand. They just marketed as something better, and as he put it, "People buy what they want to believe."
No, these “boutique” pet foods aren’t good for dogs. They aren’t wolves. They don’t need raw meat. Grain is okay. There is a strong correlation between grain free diets and cardiomyopathy, and good evidence that it’s the cause.
Everyone loves to hate on the big food brands like Purina right now, but you know what those brands have? Veterinary nutritionists on staff and more testing than the smaller brands.
Please don’t get sucked into the marketing by brands like Blue Buffalo and Orijen.
Also, this is not a dig at you, just putting it out there for people.
Part of the issue is wolves will eat an entire animal, including internal organs, not just muscle tissue. There are a lot of nutrients in those organs that aren't in muscle tissue. This is one of the reasons why Inuit people can survive on a meat-only diet, but you'll die from malnutrition if you eat only steak.
Anyway, I agree that brands like Purina get some unjustified hate. The amount of testing Purina does on their products is insane. It's not possible to test for everything (because that would require infinite tests), but I would be shocked if the smaller brands tested anywhere close to as much as brands like Purina do. One of the benefits of being big is you can afford dedicated testing facilities like Purina has in St. Louis.
>The amount of testing Purina does on their products is insane.
This.
These "big companies" like Hill's and Royal Canin that all the organic grain-free marketing loves to shit on? They are the good ones, no matter what the marketing tells you. They have dozens of veterinary nutritionists on staff. They run tests on every level, satiety, nutritional value, palatability, you name it they've run the test.
And most importantly, THEY PUBLISH ALL OF THIS RESEARCH.
If your company is not publishing their research, assume every single one of their claims is a lie.
Internal organs, bone marrow, hooves- aka 'by-product and by-product meal'. The same thing the blue buffalo people make disgusted faces about in their commercials is what makes foods like Purina pro plan and diamond naturals (which is Kirkland's dog food) so much better for a dog's overall health.
Roughly 100 years ago the owners and core producers of products like that would be hung publically, if not gunned down by an angry mob on any random tuesday.
Yet somehow our judicial system has shifted to locking up people with weed doing 5mph over the speed limit, while people like this manage to skate under the regulations they've bought.
It's infuriating.
Man, 100 years ago those owners were hiring Pinkertons to beat the shit out of striking employees and they were getting away with it. Regulations were also virtually non-existent.
The deck has been stacked for a lot longer than a century.
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Dude, the FDA was created in the 30s.
During the gilded age and earlier corporations did what they wanted and people had to take it. Lynchings were for poors and black folk in those days. We're back to the old days!
When my dog was young she had fleas and I put a flea medication on the back of her neck. She started acting super strange and uncomfortable so I gave her a shower immediately. Never have given her any flea meds since. Apparently putting poison on a dog is... unhealthy.
When one of our dogs was 6 months old we got flea medication with the instruction to give it to her orally rather than topically. She immediately went into seizure and we almost lost her. The vet clinic fired the staffer who labelled it and covered the medical bill for her. She then developed cancer in the mouth where we gave her the dose. Surgery for that.
Good news is, she's now 15 and sleeping under my desk, living her best senior life.
Pets are worth very little from a legal perspective. They're property and any attachment you have to them isn't considered. You can get a replacement cat for next to nothing and that's what the courts will award you if you pursue.
The laws need to be updated to reflect the realities of pet ownership. But unfortunately, the lobbyists work for the sick fucks murdering pets for profit.
Someone already tried with [Purina](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawsuit-claims-purinas-beneful-dog-food-poisoning-killing-dogs-n312176). It was [dismissed](https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/purina-defeats-toxic-beneful-dog-food-class-action-lawsuit/).
The reality is the evidence needed to win one of these suits doesn't exist. It's just not a research priority for the FDA (and regulatory capture will keep it that way).
Hartz flea drops killed two of my cats.
Now my mom just uses Coconut oil and Dawn dish soap. Fleas will suffocate from the coconut oil. Weirdest shit I've ever seen.
Fleas suffocate from blue Dawn. Can't speak for coconut oil as I never tried it, but at the animal hospital, we always bathed pets in Dawn. Far safer alternative to flea baths, imo.
Sorry to hear about your kitties, though. I saw a few of those firsthand, and it's Heartbreaking that those products were/are still sold. Even some of the more reputable products can have adverse side effects, but Hartz was always #1 culprit.
I believe it's the lauric acid in coconut oil that does the job. It both smothers and repels fleas, so considering blue dawn tends to irritate a cat's skin if you have to wash them frequently, a light application of coconut oil can work wonders both to soothe their skin and to have a lingering effect.
I used a reputable brand, and it made one of my cats foam at the mouth and get very lethargic. They recovered, but I've never used those drop treatments again. I just wash them and in dish soap and comb the fleas out now.
Probably back when their products contained Permethrin compounds. It can fatally interfere with a cat's nervous system. Sergeants products are a subsidiary of Hartz, if I recall correctly.
I'm sorry for your loss. I saw this too often first hand when I worked at a vet clinic.
Sounds like permethrin poisoning. It is harmless for dogs and commonly used as an antiparasitic. For cats however it is severly dangerous, which is the reason that you should always double check that whatever product you use for your cat is specifically made for cats and not just any pet antiparasitic.
My mom got two flea collars for her kitties and one of them ended up extremely lethargic. I warned her not to but those Hartz collars but she didn't listen. Thankfully my warning made her realize that after the one cat got really sick that the collar was the culprit. She immediately threw them both in the trash and bathed her cats and they're both back to normal, but I can't help but wonder what would've happened to the one that got sick if I never told her how bad those products were.
Yeah my mom once got a Hartz flea collar and Sargeant’s cat shampoo for her cat because he kept escaping and coming home with fleas. Poor thing got burned so badly on his neck and back that he lost hair for almost a year. Thankfully he didn’t die but he never fully recovered his coat.
Had a cat growing up which had permanent chemical burns from flea and tick gel that was applied for a few years until it was understood what was happening. Apparently it is even a known thing which the companies don't put as warnings on their products.
For my dogs I introduced my parents to food grade diatomaceous earth. It's just powdered diatom fossils. It sticks to bugs and makes a bunch of micro cuts and dehydrates them, but it's pretty safe for larger creatures. Great for fleas, ticks, bedbugs, spiders, and pretty much any other bug. It's also used as a food supplement but idk enough about that to be certain of the benefits.
Even with food grade I'd recommend using breathing protection. Definitely don't use non food grade directly on pets.
We have a bunch of masks leftover from COVID that we used for ourselves and put a thick sock over our dogs snout. Idk what you'd do for a cat tho. Also avoid aerosolizing it as much as possible.
My ex bought a huge bag of this stuff when we had a flea problem in our apartment. We’d put it on the carpet, let it sit, then vacuum. It worked great! She mentioned you can totally eat it if you want to, whenever we recommended it to friends. I still bust her chops for this. Like, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. 😂
Hartz, too?! Glad I'm seeing this now! I have a new bottle of the oatmeal dog shampoo for mines. Now, I'm scared to use it. I'll just wait until I next go to the city 30-45 minutes away to go to bougie ass PetSmart. 😭
I worked at a vet clinic when i was younger. So many animals brought in sick, and ended up dying from use of Hartz and Sergeant's products. We had a saying in the office, "Sergeant's kills cats".
I can attest to this!! My poor cat Vonnie almost died because I used Sergeant's flea spray. This was a few years back. I used the recommended amount, didn't overdo it, and the poor little guy was so slow, lethargic and curled up on the stairs heaving and struggling to breathe. I had to take him to the pet emergency vet where I was told had I waited, he would have died. They had to wash him 3 times, give him some antibiotics and kept him for a week for observation.
Never again, will I ever buy Sergeant's products.
No kidding, nearly lost a cat to this bullshit, bottle of flea spray marketed for cats and dogs, claiming safe for cats and dogs, all over the bottle like 10-15 times, separately and together, both in text and imagery, then in some tiny text mixed in with unrelated contact info, not for use on cats.
Thankfully the cat was nearby when they started seizing and we got them to the vet quick. Only for them to refuse to do much of anything for the cat, only giving the cat a bunch of Valium to "ease them off", as they didn't put them down there.
We went to another vet hospital that was further away, Wherein the staff working there diagnosed the the cause, due to having treated a flood of dozens of cats coming in within the month because of a sudden change in the same product we had used. Only to then refuse treatment because the real veterinarians weren't working today, and they weren't authorized to do anything... at a 24/7 veterinary hospital, and refused to call them in or anything. That same staff member then went on to offer to put our cat down... We refused, and they were quite offended and offered us a slew of profanities.
Finally we went to the third vet even farther away, where within seconds of us walking in the door, before we had even uttered more than two sentences to the receptionist, they and a vet were already grabbing the carrier from us and immediately began washing and treating them. They were horrified with our tales of the first two vets, and claimed that even their own assistants, groomers, and caretakers would have been able to diagnose and treat it. A few hours later she was stable and three days later we had her back home, friendly and energetic as always albeit a bit "drunken". within a week she was back to normal and we had seven or eight more great years with her.
I am horrified to think of how many pets were lost, and are lost to what these two companies are doing, and even more horrified to consider how many pets were further refused treatment or put down by shitty vets.
God, what's the point of being open 24/7 if you refuse to do anything useful during those hours? That's horrendous. I'm so happy you managed to get to that third vet.
You will get a much better line of pet products, from food to health and grooming products, at your local pet store. As a rule, top quality pet products are not sold in grocery stores.
Years ago, I used one of the Hartz flea medications you apply to the back of the neck on my cat. It left a big burn and scabs. I felt so terrible.
Afterwards I used the kind prescribed by vets and it never happened again
On top of the valid criticism of how fucked up Hartz is for their terrible product the further awful thing is that it rarely works for flea control. They make animals sick for nothing and the only reason they stay afloat is that the pricing is so low.
I have a friend who does research on honeybees. She’s interested in the gut microbiome so she gave them a commercial bee probiotic. The ones given the probiotic were significantly more likely to die than the ones given a known harmful bacteria. There are so many unregulated “healthy” products
I had a roomate that had a cat like that once. We had to leave the door cracked for him or he would start yowling at the door as soon as the shower came on. 😂 He would get in and lick the water off my ankles. It was so weird.
The ultimate out. Anyone who buys that shampoo will be buying it for their cats. If anything goes wrong, they can cite the label. "It says right here, only for dogs. We did everything we could to prevent your costly mistake."
This is the general approach across most industry. Look up heavy metals in dark chocolate. Nobody tests it, not the suppliers or producers, nor sellers or regulators. Nobody.
Corporate mentality.
If you test it, you have a legal obligation to report it and fix the issue.
If you dont test it, you still have a legal obligation but you the possibility to chalk it up to an oopsy. I talk to 3rd party auditors in China/Asia Pacific and they are often fustrated with a lot of brands.. Not just in China but in all the industries where businesses contract work, you can find huge labor violations.
But the brands dont want to hear about it, they will do their annual brand inspection which they schedule ahead of time so the contractors can prepare themselves. Then once everything has been hidden away properly, they come and do their inspection. Give a check mark and job done.
People think Zara didn't know they were hiring syrian refugee war orphans to make their jeans? No they knew, they just didnt audit properly.
Everyone told my grandpa he looked 10-20 years younger than he was almost all his senior years almost exclusivelyfrom his hair, he told me when I was young his main secret was mane n tail. Been washing my hair with it forever and it's amazing. Hell, I just washed with it a couple hours ago.
To be fair, most animal testing is not just applying it to animals' bodies, which incidentally, is what sort of animal testing should be taking place here.
Fun fact: "Not tested on animals" and "Cruelty-Free" have no legal definition (at least in the U.S.) and can be used by companies unrestricted, with zero consequences if it's actually not true.
That's according to the [U.S. Food & Drug Administration.](https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetics-labeling-claims/cruelty-freenot-tested-animals)
I'm thinking this warning was written by someone that was traumatized by trying to wash a cat. I'm just imagining some poor soul, bandaged head to toe to cover the cat scratches, typing up this warning as a cat licks its paw and glares menacingly, "yes, human. It is NOT suitable for use on cats. Don't forget it."
I'm pretty sure it means that the company, who bottles this shampoo, doesn't do the testing. But the ingridients that they use were definitely tested before them, by some other companies.
I have a feeling an incompetent marketing person just copied the warning from a dog bottle and didn't think to edit it.
Which further draws the entire thing into question. What kind of shit show shop are they running.
I spent many years as a graphic designer, I can confirm the client NEVER reads the copy. NEVER. They'll bitch about every little thing in the graphic art, but never once proofread the text. They provide the text, we copy and paste it, they don't even read it before they send it to us. Shit goes to press ALL THE TIME with mistakes in the copy, because no one reads it.
Yeah, stupid post. It's clearly a misprint with the correction peeled off.
If you're going to hate on a brand, that's cool. I hate corporations.
But do it in good faith.
I'm in the printing business. It's either the printer or bottle maker used the wrong plate or Sargents provided an incorrect file. It happens more than people think. Should it be caught? Yes. A high end shop like mine would catch that and let the client know. Even though we don't get paid to proof read what the client gives us. It should have been proof read by Sargents before going to the printer. A low life shop would print it anyway because it's Sargents fault and would have to pay again to get them reprinted. That's why customers love us. Because we save them money.
The cat I live with is not murdery, but it still did not go over well when I bought a flea treatment that came in a spray bottle and instructed to saturate the fur and then ruffle it. I had to resort to guerilla tactics.
And the worst part is, it wasn't even very effective and it triggered my asthma. It also smelled fairly strongly like baby powder, which was weird.
I have learned my lesson. I've been spraying the stuff in the carpet by the door because I hate to throw things out when I've paid money for them and I'm hoping it will at least be somewhat useful in keeping the fleas out before they get to the cat? Idk if it's actually doing anything, but her infestation has been handled by neck drops and she's fine.
Get some food grade diatomaceous earth instead, it's edible and murders them by contact. Just as an FYI don't breath it in when you spread it, once it settles its fine but when your spreading it or vacuuming it up wear a mask. Also if your cat is on flea/tick meds any flea that land on them will die fairly quickly. You need to make sure to keep up on the RX meds (usually monthly) so that your cat is protected and you need to vacuum or wash everything regularly for about three months to break the flea life cycle.
I've raised like 8 cats, and washed the fur on exactly one of them one time, and that was only because she had super long fur and got actual shit stuck in it. Even then I only used warm water.
I should have worn a long sleeve shirt for that though. Her claws dug in so deep.
That is what the disclaimer is for. Just to protect them from lawsuit. You can wash your car with it but 35 percent of all feline baths result in murder.
Hartz and Sergeants are 💩 brands. I've been using Natural Care shed control and Veterinary Formula flea shampoo on my dog. Haven't heard any problems with them yet.
I ask my vet if I remember to, but since I only bring him once a year (for his yearly shots) I only really ask if I remember. I've already ran my dog's food brand through my vet and have heard good reviews about the shampoo I use on him. I try to keep utd on lawsuits and such going on with different companies.
My mom is a vet tech. There is no proper label. Sergeants and Hartz are very shady brands. There’s been a prolonged situation ongoing with people using their products only to have their animals start having major issues. Neurological problems and lesions on their skin are what she usually sees. A decent chunk of them don’t make it. She says that this has been happening for years, and she’ll still call me whenever one happens again, usually in tears each time. There’s a distinct lack of rules and enforcement when it comes to animals and the law, and pets have to pay for it. If you can, spend the extra money to get something better for your pet. Mane n’ Tail is good, and you can even use it yourself.
On a personal note, fuck Sergeants and fuck Hartz
Was there a sticker over it that you peeled off? Looks like they didn’t change the wording when printing and decided to put a sticker over it rather than waste all the bottles.
High quality products my ass, someone should sue these hartz and Sargent companies about their pet murdering chemicals, if someone hasn't sued them already
Don’t use anything by Sergeant’s or Hartz. Both are known for low quality control and making pets sick or die. Toss this bottle of swill out or get your money back.
My fiance lost his cat Luna to a hart flee removing shampoo. It ruined up her nervous system and she started having seizures. Falling off furniture and her perch. She ended up having to wear diapers and had a wheelchair until she passed away. She had this sweet beautiful face that always lit up whenever you start walking toward her. You make eye contact, she returns it with a meow of excitement and she would scoot over to you. Fuck. Hartz.
How the fuck are they able to sell their products?
Regulations for pet products are abysmal. You’d be surprised to see how little actual nutritional value most pet foods have because the FDA couldn’t give half a shit about what we’re feeding our pets
FDA mandate is that it is safe to eat, not that it is nutritious.
Not under FDA jurisdiction but I feed my cats Hill’s Science and even though it’s a HUGE expense for me to be spending around 100 USD a month in cat food, it’s completely worth it knowing I’m providing top shelf nutrition compared to the other 99% of cats in my country. One of them’s fur literally shines in iridescent hues against the sun rays despite the midnight black coat, so I take it as a good sign. I won’t settle for crappy supermarket brands because I’d rather spend it now in good quality of life than later in vet bills trying to barely keep them alive. Before I knew better, Whiskas food was directly responsible for severely shortening a male cat’s lifespan. Fuck low end pet food brands. Fuck them all to hell. Edit: I get there’s better food out there than Hill’s, but most of the brands I’ve seen suggested under this comment are impossible to get around me unless I ship internationally yadda yadda. Hill’s may not be the absolute best but it certainly isn’t bad and a couple of vets have recommended it, so I’m sticking to it. And no I won’t cook for my cats because I know fuckall about feline nutrition and I care more about them than my ego.
Hill's Science is putting chemicals in the cat food that are turning the friggin' CATS gay!
Dude, i have no idea where you got that “info facts”. It’s turning the cats TRANS, okay?!?
BISEXUAL! They're turning the cats BISEXUAL
I thought cats were bisexual by definition??? I’m so confused!!
Fox News said they've got urinals in bathrooms at cat schools for the cats who identify as human.
That explains my cat being extra sassy lately.
The moment I started feeding my cats proper nutrition (please forgive younger me. No one told me that regular wet food/cat food at the store isn’t the best for them) it was like night and day. My cats hair grew in thick and her bald spots healed up. She stopped having itchy ears and butt and toes. They have more energy and better poops (weird to say, but one had tummy issues). They’re so happy and it just made me mad that this isn’t talked about more. I felt like such a bad cat mom!
You weren't a bad cat mom, you just didn't know. It's not like you intentionally looked for bad stuff to give them, y'know?
What proper nutrition did you start giving your cats? I'm still a new cat mum and really want to provide the best for my little ones
My vet actually told me I could buy goid food now or pay vet bills later. We like the Hills, too. Only one of my cats is gay.
The FDA doesn't really cover pet food, you want to look at AAFCO; The Association of American Feed Control Officials. Hills Science Diet is one of those cat/dog food brands where, while their prescription food is awesome, their over the shelf is just good. Though for the price you're paying, there's better options out there. I just looked up the ingredients for their plain adult cat forumla, and the first few are Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken Fat, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Cracked Pearled Barley, Soybean Meal, and Chicken liver flavor before you start going into the synthetic ingredients. 4lb bag is about $20. Compared to something like Orijen, and their ingredient label is Chicken, Turkey, Whole Mackerel, Turkey Giblets (Liver, Heart, Gizzard), Flounder, Chicken Liver, Whole Herring, Eggs, Dehydrated Chicken, Dehydrated Turkey, Dehydrated Mackerel, Dehydrated Chicken Liver, Dehydrated Egg, Chicken Fat, Whole Red Lentils, Whole Pinto Beans, Whole Peas, Whole Green Lentils, Whole Chickpeas, Natural Chicken Flavor, Whole Navy Beans, Pollock Oil, Lentil Fiber, Pea Starch, and Chicken Heart before going into the small list of synthetics. $29 for a 4lb bag, so you're paying only $10 more for a lot more actual food ingredients in your cats food. As I like to put it - if I see wheat, corn, or soy in the first five ingredients of my cats' food I don't give it to them. My cats are not chickens, I refuse to feed them like one.
> Corn Gluten Meal Nothing says quality like corn as the top 3-4 ingredients for your cat/dog! Seriously, people have no idea that Hill's/Royal Canine over the shelf brands are a bad purchase when it comes down to a cost factor. They're much better than Whiskas/IAMS/Purina and other junk but my god the prices are crazy when it has so many fillers. You for sure want food that meets the AAFCO requirements and I always try to point people in the direction of a good value brand that's typically exclusive to the store in question.
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I feed my cats a mixture of that and another Rx food (hill's is surprisingly cheaper 😭) and good lord it's expensive. But my boy kept getting urinary blockages and almost died from it so he's worth it
Compare ingredients on the back to say wellness or Merrick. Hills isn’t close to top shelf nutrition with all the fillers they use to make it palatable
Tbh, the FDA barely has enough power to ensure the human food is safe to eat. Wanting them to regulate animal food too is a hopeful wish. The best thing you can do is just not fund the brands that don’t have good quality.
Can we start doing the same to shitty human food companies too? Looking at you Nestlé.
Lol nestle is literally too big to takedown. Even if all of america stopped buying their products they own a fuck ton of the worlds commercial water supply
After working in a Petsmart, it's very sad to see what is able to even be shelved.
But also, it's uplifting to see the wide variety of really high quality food on the market these days! I mean when I was growing up you just bought ... dog food. Iams, Purina, Bil-Jac. It was all the same cheap shit. Nowadays you can buy like flash frozen wild moose confit dusted with organic bee farts for $100/lb. Jokes aside there are a lot of great dog foods on the market these days like Instinct and Orijen and Blue Buffalo and the like that are made with absurdly high-quality ingredients.
Blue Buffalo has had many recalls and lawsuits
Blue Buffalo killed my dog. I won't even buy their treats for our new puppy. They pushed their formula so hard and we believed it. My sweet baby died far too young from heart failure due to a lack of taurine in her early years.
Can you say more? I feed my dog Blue Buffalo 🙁
It is the grain free diets that are bad for dogs (after marketing pushed them on us as the healthiest option for our pets for years). In moderation it's OK, but if it's all they eat for every meal they miss out on vital nutrients that can later cause heart problems. Link below for more info https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/outbreaks-and-advisories/fda-investigation-potential-link-between-certain-diets-and-canine-dilated-cardiomyopathy
General mills bought out blue in 2018 and its been expensive trash food since then. Can't speak for before then, heard it was top stuff at some point.
Blue Buffalo is bullshit. The Marketing director even admitted in an interview that their food was no better than store brand. They just marketed as something better, and as he put it, "People buy what they want to believe."
You had me at bee farts.
No, these “boutique” pet foods aren’t good for dogs. They aren’t wolves. They don’t need raw meat. Grain is okay. There is a strong correlation between grain free diets and cardiomyopathy, and good evidence that it’s the cause. Everyone loves to hate on the big food brands like Purina right now, but you know what those brands have? Veterinary nutritionists on staff and more testing than the smaller brands. Please don’t get sucked into the marketing by brands like Blue Buffalo and Orijen. Also, this is not a dig at you, just putting it out there for people.
Part of the issue is wolves will eat an entire animal, including internal organs, not just muscle tissue. There are a lot of nutrients in those organs that aren't in muscle tissue. This is one of the reasons why Inuit people can survive on a meat-only diet, but you'll die from malnutrition if you eat only steak. Anyway, I agree that brands like Purina get some unjustified hate. The amount of testing Purina does on their products is insane. It's not possible to test for everything (because that would require infinite tests), but I would be shocked if the smaller brands tested anywhere close to as much as brands like Purina do. One of the benefits of being big is you can afford dedicated testing facilities like Purina has in St. Louis.
>The amount of testing Purina does on their products is insane. This. These "big companies" like Hill's and Royal Canin that all the organic grain-free marketing loves to shit on? They are the good ones, no matter what the marketing tells you. They have dozens of veterinary nutritionists on staff. They run tests on every level, satiety, nutritional value, palatability, you name it they've run the test. And most importantly, THEY PUBLISH ALL OF THIS RESEARCH. If your company is not publishing their research, assume every single one of their claims is a lie.
Internal organs, bone marrow, hooves- aka 'by-product and by-product meal'. The same thing the blue buffalo people make disgusted faces about in their commercials is what makes foods like Purina pro plan and diamond naturals (which is Kirkland's dog food) so much better for a dog's overall health.
Why we bought baby toys for our puppies. Humans are more regulated than pets.
Unregulated capitalism.
Reprehensible.
Roughly 100 years ago the owners and core producers of products like that would be hung publically, if not gunned down by an angry mob on any random tuesday. Yet somehow our judicial system has shifted to locking up people with weed doing 5mph over the speed limit, while people like this manage to skate under the regulations they've bought. It's infuriating.
Man, 100 years ago those owners were hiring Pinkertons to beat the shit out of striking employees and they were getting away with it. Regulations were also virtually non-existent. The deck has been stacked for a lot longer than a century.
Mass produced pet food was even worse in the past so
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Dude, the FDA was created in the 30s. During the gilded age and earlier corporations did what they wanted and people had to take it. Lynchings were for poors and black folk in those days. We're back to the old days!
Jesus H Christ, to think a shampoo can mess an animal up like that I’m so sorry
It’s stuffed full of poisons for the fleas. It gave my dog epilepsy.
When my dog was young she had fleas and I put a flea medication on the back of her neck. She started acting super strange and uncomfortable so I gave her a shower immediately. Never have given her any flea meds since. Apparently putting poison on a dog is... unhealthy.
When one of our dogs was 6 months old we got flea medication with the instruction to give it to her orally rather than topically. She immediately went into seizure and we almost lost her. The vet clinic fired the staffer who labelled it and covered the medical bill for her. She then developed cancer in the mouth where we gave her the dose. Surgery for that. Good news is, she's now 15 and sleeping under my desk, living her best senior life.
Shouldn't they have been sued out of existence by now?
Pets are worth very little from a legal perspective. They're property and any attachment you have to them isn't considered. You can get a replacement cat for next to nothing and that's what the courts will award you if you pursue. The laws need to be updated to reflect the realities of pet ownership. But unfortunately, the lobbyists work for the sick fucks murdering pets for profit.
Let’s get our metaphorical torches and pitchforks, and have ourselves a class action suit!
Someone already tried with [Purina](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawsuit-claims-purinas-beneful-dog-food-poisoning-killing-dogs-n312176). It was [dismissed](https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/purina-defeats-toxic-beneful-dog-food-class-action-lawsuit/). The reality is the evidence needed to win one of these suits doesn't exist. It's just not a research priority for the FDA (and regulatory capture will keep it that way).
sounds like the solution is non metaphorical pitchforks then, but reddit would probably ban me for advocating that which I totally am not I promise.
Hartz flea drops killed two of my cats. Now my mom just uses Coconut oil and Dawn dish soap. Fleas will suffocate from the coconut oil. Weirdest shit I've ever seen.
Fleas suffocate from blue Dawn. Can't speak for coconut oil as I never tried it, but at the animal hospital, we always bathed pets in Dawn. Far safer alternative to flea baths, imo. Sorry to hear about your kitties, though. I saw a few of those firsthand, and it's Heartbreaking that those products were/are still sold. Even some of the more reputable products can have adverse side effects, but Hartz was always #1 culprit.
I believe it's the lauric acid in coconut oil that does the job. It both smothers and repels fleas, so considering blue dawn tends to irritate a cat's skin if you have to wash them frequently, a light application of coconut oil can work wonders both to soothe their skin and to have a lingering effect.
Fuck Hartz. Dawn is the way to go.
I used a reputable brand, and it made one of my cats foam at the mouth and get very lethargic. They recovered, but I've never used those drop treatments again. I just wash them and in dish soap and comb the fleas out now.
What the fuck? I hope you sued them because that’s horrible. I would dedicate my life to get them out of business
How does shampoo cause seizures? I’m trying to understand.
Many flea shampoos contain permethrin, which is an insecticide that is extremely toxic to cats. Even simple skin exposure causes tremors and seizures.
Wow that’s crazy! Thanks for the explanation.
Neurotoxic ingredients.
Does it enter the mouth or something? Or can it cause severe effects just through skin exposure?
Through the skin like flea treatments I would imagine.
Cats lick their fur while grooming, Id guess thsts the vector.
It probably had permethrin in it.
That’s fucked. Thanks for info. Fuck hartz
Probably back when their products contained Permethrin compounds. It can fatally interfere with a cat's nervous system. Sergeants products are a subsidiary of Hartz, if I recall correctly. I'm sorry for your loss. I saw this too often first hand when I worked at a vet clinic.
Sounds like permethrin poisoning. It is harmless for dogs and commonly used as an antiparasitic. For cats however it is severly dangerous, which is the reason that you should always double check that whatever product you use for your cat is specifically made for cats and not just any pet antiparasitic.
Can confirm. Hartz flea collar gave my cat a collar sized burn all the way around his neck.
My mom got two flea collars for her kitties and one of them ended up extremely lethargic. I warned her not to but those Hartz collars but she didn't listen. Thankfully my warning made her realize that after the one cat got really sick that the collar was the culprit. She immediately threw them both in the trash and bathed her cats and they're both back to normal, but I can't help but wonder what would've happened to the one that got sick if I never told her how bad those products were.
Flea collars don’t work either.
Nope. Best case scenario they do absolutely nothing and worst case they cause severe harm to your pet
Yeah my mom once got a Hartz flea collar and Sargeant’s cat shampoo for her cat because he kept escaping and coming home with fleas. Poor thing got burned so badly on his neck and back that he lost hair for almost a year. Thankfully he didn’t die but he never fully recovered his coat.
Had a cat growing up which had permanent chemical burns from flea and tick gel that was applied for a few years until it was understood what was happening. Apparently it is even a known thing which the companies don't put as warnings on their products.
For my dogs I introduced my parents to food grade diatomaceous earth. It's just powdered diatom fossils. It sticks to bugs and makes a bunch of micro cuts and dehydrates them, but it's pretty safe for larger creatures. Great for fleas, ticks, bedbugs, spiders, and pretty much any other bug. It's also used as a food supplement but idk enough about that to be certain of the benefits.
The studies are inconclusive towards any health benefits, the silica doesn't seem to be very bioavailable and that is 80-90% of DE.
Not to be confused with the non food grade variety. It can have a negative effect on your animals breathing it in.
Even with food grade I'd recommend using breathing protection. Definitely don't use non food grade directly on pets. We have a bunch of masks leftover from COVID that we used for ourselves and put a thick sock over our dogs snout. Idk what you'd do for a cat tho. Also avoid aerosolizing it as much as possible.
My ex bought a huge bag of this stuff when we had a flea problem in our apartment. We’d put it on the carpet, let it sit, then vacuum. It worked great! She mentioned you can totally eat it if you want to, whenever we recommended it to friends. I still bust her chops for this. Like, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. 😂
Hartz, too?! Glad I'm seeing this now! I have a new bottle of the oatmeal dog shampoo for mines. Now, I'm scared to use it. I'll just wait until I next go to the city 30-45 minutes away to go to bougie ass PetSmart. 😭
I don't normally shill for companies but if its that difficult to get access to good pet products for you, use Chewy's delivery.
I worked at a vet clinic when i was younger. So many animals brought in sick, and ended up dying from use of Hartz and Sergeant's products. We had a saying in the office, "Sergeant's kills cats".
100%. Never these companies
I can attest to this!! My poor cat Vonnie almost died because I used Sergeant's flea spray. This was a few years back. I used the recommended amount, didn't overdo it, and the poor little guy was so slow, lethargic and curled up on the stairs heaving and struggling to breathe. I had to take him to the pet emergency vet where I was told had I waited, he would have died. They had to wash him 3 times, give him some antibiotics and kept him for a week for observation. Never again, will I ever buy Sergeant's products.
Why did they give him antibiotics?
Even the cat on the bottle looks scared "not the dog shampoo again!"
No kidding, nearly lost a cat to this bullshit, bottle of flea spray marketed for cats and dogs, claiming safe for cats and dogs, all over the bottle like 10-15 times, separately and together, both in text and imagery, then in some tiny text mixed in with unrelated contact info, not for use on cats. Thankfully the cat was nearby when they started seizing and we got them to the vet quick. Only for them to refuse to do much of anything for the cat, only giving the cat a bunch of Valium to "ease them off", as they didn't put them down there. We went to another vet hospital that was further away, Wherein the staff working there diagnosed the the cause, due to having treated a flood of dozens of cats coming in within the month because of a sudden change in the same product we had used. Only to then refuse treatment because the real veterinarians weren't working today, and they weren't authorized to do anything... at a 24/7 veterinary hospital, and refused to call them in or anything. That same staff member then went on to offer to put our cat down... We refused, and they were quite offended and offered us a slew of profanities. Finally we went to the third vet even farther away, where within seconds of us walking in the door, before we had even uttered more than two sentences to the receptionist, they and a vet were already grabbing the carrier from us and immediately began washing and treating them. They were horrified with our tales of the first two vets, and claimed that even their own assistants, groomers, and caretakers would have been able to diagnose and treat it. A few hours later she was stable and three days later we had her back home, friendly and energetic as always albeit a bit "drunken". within a week she was back to normal and we had seven or eight more great years with her. I am horrified to think of how many pets were lost, and are lost to what these two companies are doing, and even more horrified to consider how many pets were further refused treatment or put down by shitty vets.
God, what's the point of being open 24/7 if you refuse to do anything useful during those hours? That's horrendous. I'm so happy you managed to get to that third vet.
I'm with ya, this is a recycled bottle, but good looking out.
Does that go for Hartz's food products as well?
You will get a much better line of pet products, from food to health and grooming products, at your local pet store. As a rule, top quality pet products are not sold in grocery stores.
Are there more brands to be aware of? I swear the pet industry is just this giant unregulated snake oil trap
Years ago, I used one of the Hartz flea medications you apply to the back of the neck on my cat. It left a big burn and scabs. I felt so terrible. Afterwards I used the kind prescribed by vets and it never happened again
On top of the valid criticism of how fucked up Hartz is for their terrible product the further awful thing is that it rarely works for flea control. They make animals sick for nothing and the only reason they stay afloat is that the pricing is so low.
"Not tested on animals"
The one time you want something tested on animals.
We don't test anything. We just make it. Goodluck on your test. Don't try it on cats. You've been warned
I have a friend who does research on honeybees. She’s interested in the gut microbiome so she gave them a commercial bee probiotic. The ones given the probiotic were significantly more likely to die than the ones given a known harmful bacteria. There are so many unregulated “healthy” products
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Is it, like, a bee Yogurt?
I prefer strawberry yogurt, but to each their own
Spicy yogurt
I was hoping for tiny cups of yogurt… Not *instant bee demise*.
The hardest part is training the bees to hold the tiny spoons.
Four spoons at once, 6 if they want hover.
Have you ever tried washing a cat? That’s *good* advice on the bottle.
I have a cat that regularly gets showers, nobody can go in the bathroom at my house without Mr Meatball hopping in the tub lol
I had a roomate that had a cat like that once. We had to leave the door cracked for him or he would start yowling at the door as soon as the shower came on. 😂 He would get in and lick the water off my ankles. It was so weird.
Mine attacks the water kind of like a normal cat chasing a laser pointer. It’s hysterical, if i could post a video in the comments I’d put one
Doesn’t test on animals. Recommends not using on cats. How could they know without testing?
Honestly, it's probably a carried over bit of text from one of their medicated dog shampoos that nobody caught.
yeah but that's boring
The ultimate out. Anyone who buys that shampoo will be buying it for their cats. If anything goes wrong, they can cite the label. "It says right here, only for dogs. We did everything we could to prevent your costly mistake."
This is the general approach across most industry. Look up heavy metals in dark chocolate. Nobody tests it, not the suppliers or producers, nor sellers or regulators. Nobody.
Corporate mentality. If you test it, you have a legal obligation to report it and fix the issue. If you dont test it, you still have a legal obligation but you the possibility to chalk it up to an oopsy. I talk to 3rd party auditors in China/Asia Pacific and they are often fustrated with a lot of brands.. Not just in China but in all the industries where businesses contract work, you can find huge labor violations. But the brands dont want to hear about it, they will do their annual brand inspection which they schedule ahead of time so the contractors can prepare themselves. Then once everything has been hidden away properly, they come and do their inspection. Give a check mark and job done. People think Zara didn't know they were hiring syrian refugee war orphans to make their jeans? No they knew, they just didnt audit properly.
I wonder if any really naïve bean counter has brought up the question "how come our suppliers have this dip in productivity every time we audit?"
Of course they do. Audits are disruptive! That's why we need less of them. /s
I can tell you've worked corporate;p
"If we do less Covid testing there will be less cases."
>Don't try it on cats. Good Lord, if it's the last thing you do, don't try it on cats
I tested it on myself, and my coat has never had a healthier sheen to it.
Awe I wanna give you scritches
Mane and tail is a miracle
Everyone told my grandpa he looked 10-20 years younger than he was almost all his senior years almost exclusivelyfrom his hair, he told me when I was young his main secret was mane n tail. Been washing my hair with it forever and it's amazing. Hell, I just washed with it a couple hours ago.
Kept horses most of my life and agree. That stuff is amazing, especially on long hair
https://www.lookfantastic.com/brands/mane-n-tail.list It's on beauty websites aaaahahah
To be fair, most animal testing is not just applying it to animals' bodies, which incidentally, is what sort of animal testing should be taking place here.
"We tested this one on Joe. Joe doesn't like baths but we gave him a treat afterwards. Someone call Joe from accounting and get him up here."
Joe the accounting intern has the healthiest looking hair.
Surprise side effects included!
Fun fact: "Not tested on animals" and "Cruelty-Free" have no legal definition (at least in the U.S.) and can be used by companies unrestricted, with zero consequences if it's actually not true. That's according to the [U.S. Food & Drug Administration.](https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetics-labeling-claims/cruelty-freenot-tested-animals)
Yea and a lot of companies say they don’t test….because THEY THEMSELVES don’t, but the companies they buy their products from do test on animals
Oh my god, it's the first time I notice this sub put links in comic sans. I love it.
So how do they know it's only okay on dogs?
Every cat they tried it on died instantly.
If you know the history of this company and their flea and tick meds this isn’t out of possibility.
At least, they claimed to die instantly. Source: I had to was sticky goop off my cat that he got onto his fur under cars.
I'm thinking this warning was written by someone that was traumatized by trying to wash a cat. I'm just imagining some poor soul, bandaged head to toe to cover the cat scratches, typing up this warning as a cat licks its paw and glares menacingly, "yes, human. It is NOT suitable for use on cats. Don't forget it."
I must be blind AF. I can not see where it says that
I believe it's a joke about them promoting and branding it for cats, despite the warning on the back side.
Same
where does it say “not tested on animals”?
I'm pretty sure it means that the company, who bottles this shampoo, doesn't do the testing. But the ingridients that they use were definitely tested before them, by some other companies.
Who sells a cat shampoo that u can only use on Dogs? LOLOLOLOL
I have a feeling an incompetent marketing person just copied the warning from a dog bottle and didn't think to edit it. Which further draws the entire thing into question. What kind of shit show shop are they running.
This. It looks very much like they copied the text and didn't proof-read.
I spent many years as a graphic designer, I can confirm the client NEVER reads the copy. NEVER. They'll bitch about every little thing in the graphic art, but never once proofread the text. They provide the text, we copy and paste it, they don't even read it before they send it to us. Shit goes to press ALL THE TIME with mistakes in the copy, because no one reads it.
Also looks like they peeled the correction sticker off for rage bait
Yeah, stupid post. It's clearly a misprint with the correction peeled off. If you're going to hate on a brand, that's cool. I hate corporations. But do it in good faith.
I'm in the printing business. It's either the printer or bottle maker used the wrong plate or Sargents provided an incorrect file. It happens more than people think. Should it be caught? Yes. A high end shop like mine would catch that and let the client know. Even though we don't get paid to proof read what the client gives us. It should have been proof read by Sargents before going to the printer. A low life shop would print it anyway because it's Sargents fault and would have to pay again to get them reprinted. That's why customers love us. Because we save them money.
Sergeant’s
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a genius here
Maybe to avoid the ensuing lawsuit after a cat owner tries to bathe a cat?
I mean, it’s probably just a mistake in the copy but… geez, you’d think that’s something they’d proofread like 100 times.
Clearly, a cat got into the Sergeant's factory and changed the label. "You'll never bathe me again hoo-man!"
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I saw him see it
Lol I just had to bathe my cat about 30 mins ago (long hair, poopy butt) and this made me laugh. She was not thrilled about her bath :-(
If I tried to wet/wash my cat he would murder me
The cat I live with is not murdery, but it still did not go over well when I bought a flea treatment that came in a spray bottle and instructed to saturate the fur and then ruffle it. I had to resort to guerilla tactics. And the worst part is, it wasn't even very effective and it triggered my asthma. It also smelled fairly strongly like baby powder, which was weird.
Advantage is your friend.
I have learned my lesson. I've been spraying the stuff in the carpet by the door because I hate to throw things out when I've paid money for them and I'm hoping it will at least be somewhat useful in keeping the fleas out before they get to the cat? Idk if it's actually doing anything, but her infestation has been handled by neck drops and she's fine.
Get some food grade diatomaceous earth instead, it's edible and murders them by contact. Just as an FYI don't breath it in when you spread it, once it settles its fine but when your spreading it or vacuuming it up wear a mask. Also if your cat is on flea/tick meds any flea that land on them will die fairly quickly. You need to make sure to keep up on the RX meds (usually monthly) so that your cat is protected and you need to vacuum or wash everything regularly for about three months to break the flea life cycle.
I've raised like 8 cats, and washed the fur on exactly one of them one time, and that was only because she had super long fur and got actual shit stuck in it. Even then I only used warm water. I should have worn a long sleeve shirt for that though. Her claws dug in so deep.
That is what the disclaimer is for. Just to protect them from lawsuit. You can wash your car with it but 35 percent of all feline baths result in murder.
Gotta start em young if possible
Yea I wouldn’t use that on any living creature, actually I wouldn’t use it on anything at all. Looks bootleg
Right, it looks like they just chose the first cat they saw on an image search and crudely photoshopped it onto their label.
Yea that picture is definitely not professional and it’s not the cat’s fault lol. Poor thing doesn’t know it’s posing for a brand that kills animals
sergeants is so shit. their products are killing peoples pets
Hartz and Sergeants are 💩 brands. I've been using Natural Care shed control and Veterinary Formula flea shampoo on my dog. Haven't heard any problems with them yet.
I’ve always just asked the vet tech or whoever fixes the animals what to use. I’m too paranoid after hearing all the Hartz stories.
I ask my vet if I remember to, but since I only bring him once a year (for his yearly shots) I only really ask if I remember. I've already ran my dog's food brand through my vet and have heard good reviews about the shampoo I use on him. I try to keep utd on lawsuits and such going on with different companies.
what caught my attention was the picture of the cat on the front. it just looks so silly lol
It's probably using too much of that shampoo. Lookin a lil derpy
the shampoo gave him brain damage lmao
Probably a copy/paste error from the dog shampoo that’s probably the same stuff with a different label
It had sticker covering it with the proper label. Op just tore it off.
My mom is a vet tech. There is no proper label. Sergeants and Hartz are very shady brands. There’s been a prolonged situation ongoing with people using their products only to have their animals start having major issues. Neurological problems and lesions on their skin are what she usually sees. A decent chunk of them don’t make it. She says that this has been happening for years, and she’ll still call me whenever one happens again, usually in tears each time. There’s a distinct lack of rules and enforcement when it comes to animals and the law, and pets have to pay for it. If you can, spend the extra money to get something better for your pet. Mane n’ Tail is good, and you can even use it yourself. On a personal note, fuck Sergeants and fuck Hartz
Was there a sticker over it that you peeled off? Looks like they didn’t change the wording when printing and decided to put a sticker over it rather than waste all the bottles.
Not recommended for cats. Not truly recommended for any animal as these products have caused pets to die.
High quality products my ass, someone should sue these hartz and Sargent companies about their pet murdering chemicals, if someone hasn't sued them already
That's a typical Sergeant's product for you crappy as heck.
Probably just copy/pasted from the warnings from their dog shampoo and didn't catch it.
The dog shampoo says not to use it on dogs.
Meowch
You should see their “use on cats only” dog shampoo…
The picture of the cat on the bottle lmfao
>*Washing your cat with something that leaves a scent behind* So you WANT to drive your cat insane?
That’s Ruff man….
It says not recommended for use on cats but has a cat on the bottle
I like the bit that says “not recommended for cats” Like, you’re calling “cat shampoo”….
Cat shampoo! Don't use on cats! Logic!
Graphic designer copy-pasted the text from the dog bottle onto the cat bottle and didn't double check it. That said, this brand is still garbage.
Well the cat in the bottle looks traumatized, so at least now we know why
You really shouldn’t bathe your cat anyway