We re-sign IHart with Early Bird then we offer his wife a brand influencer job worth 10m a year 😉
Then on his birthday, Dolan will give Hartenstein an art piece then some random "Brazilian Billionaire" named LanDo will buy said art piece for 10m
It’s a fucking terrible idea unless they have like the cia on the payroll to help hide it all and the cia are such big Knicks fans they like have Adam silver assassinated if he ever finds out. The nba still has more integrity than the Supreme Court when it comes to paying players.
This is how you get destroyed like the timberwolves with Joe smith.
Funniest part is Mark Cuban pretends to be the God of Sabermetrics, yet Brunson was the most "moneyball" player in the NBA and Cuban fuckin whiffed on him
Classic case of a moron who pays people to make him look smart
Or if he's insistent on the Knicks he could have mentionned JR Smiths brother who we signed for the Gleague and was so bad not even nepotism could save him
Same thing happened with Z Wade on the Salt Lake City Stars lol. His dad is a part owner of the team and he still got waived mid-season lol. I think he’s playing in Africa now or something lol.
How? Well, it was 8 of 30.
Not saying a larger sample size was going to get a lot better, but even a great shooter can go ice cold for any given 30 shots. So it's not that hard to imagine a lesser player doing it spread out over 12 games.
At least Zoran was a decent Euroleague player at that time so it's not the worst case of nepotism. Someone like Thanasis was a bench warmer in Euroleague and Keljin Blevins can't even cut it in some no-name leagues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_second-generation_NBA_players
Devin Booker, Brian Cook, Danny ferry, Kevin Love, Danny Manning, Al Horford, Andrew Wiggins , Pistol Pete
Coach Spoelstra has probably surpassed his brilliant GM dad
Warriors' owner gave his son a front office position out of college with no experience, and they also hired Kerr's son to the coaching staff. They also signed Curry, Klay, and Demarcus' brothers to G-League deals.
Pretty sure the king's owner made his daughter like head of basketball operations or something with no experience, think she also ran their g league program for a while, and then quit all those to run a charity
Hey now, Damion Lee is a legit NBA player. 8 ppg on 15-20 minutes a night, good 3 point shooter, doesn't know how to play defense but he does try. He's a solid 11th man off the bench even without Steph being in the league.
Even as a Louisville fan, that dude had no business playing at the next level. Some scouts reported that he was the worst NBA player they’ve ever seen.
Kostas won an NBA championship and just won the EuroLeague with Panathinakos. The difference is he contributed to the Greek team way more than the Lakers.
Exactly. At least Brunson was good enough to earn his spot, it was just the location of where he landed. Bronny by all accounts did not earn his spot at all.
And he’s the “Giannis whisperer”. When Bronny tells LeBron to chill the fuck out after he gets pissed off and does something dumb, then he can be compared to the multiple time 15MOTY.
Ya its not like people haven't called out that stuff too. Doesn't make it any better with Bronnie and it wont feel as authentic as if Bronnie earned his way into the league normally.
I saw this super cool podcast clip where Allen Houston talked about how Jalen used to go on the court in the Garden after games without a ball and imagine that he was playing
Ewing talked about how if he knew Brunson was going to be this good he would have been recruiting him since he was a 2 year old running around in all of their lockers to get him to go to Georgetown.
All the jokes aside, dude was born to be a Knick. The amount of pictures that have been uncovered of him as a baby being held by Knick legends or their family is like something out of a movie script.
The Knicks President is Jalen Brunson's Godfather and former agent. In fact, he was the one who pushed Donnie for a four year contract and no RFA at the end.
Yeah, I get nepotism happens in the NBA and the world all the time. It's just a matter of fact in life. However, those that are comparing situations like Brunson and Curry are just ignoring a lot of details. Curry went to Davidson, of all places, and became one of the best college players ever. He was drafted 7th overall after 3 years of college. Brunson was a key member of two national championships at Villanova. He played 4 years in college and was drafted in the second round.
Both of these guys benefitted from nepotism due to resources and name recognition, but neither of them were just given their opportunities. They had to go out and work and earn their spots in the NBA.
Look, Bronny is going to be given a chance due to his last name and that's just a fact. Nothing I can do about it and maybe he'll eventually prove he belongs. But I'm not going to sit back and act like he earned this spot in a similar vein to guys like Brunson and Curry. That's just disrespectful to those guys.
Or even guys like Damien Lee or Seth Curry. If Bronny can earn minutes like those 2 he would have already overachieved over his current projections lol.
Nepotism isn't really Nepotism if the guy deserves it. That kind of the whole reason it's bad, its because more often than not it takes an opportunity from someone who actually deserves it. But you can would never say guys like Steph Curry or Ken Griffey Jr benefitted from nepotism.
Attempts at trying to downplay the nepotism just draws further attention to the talent disparity making the situation look more hilarious. It's not helping like they think it is haha.
Yeah, this analogy would work if Brunson was only in the NBA because of all of the above. He made it to the NBA on his own merits.
And it's not even that they wasted a pick on Bronny. It's a 2nd round pick. Those are bullshit 99% of the time anyways (outside of the 3x MVP). It's that he's definitely going to be taking up a spot on the 15 when he shouldn't
Brunson is a two time NCAA champion, leading his team on the second title. This made sure he was drafted 33rd overall. I think being good at basketball is the reason he made it to the NBA.
If anything Brunson flew heavily under the radar. When I saw him in college, I was convinced he would be a lottery pick but GMs apparently had other thoughts in mind
It’s wild that perhaps the best college basketball player of the 2010s, Jalen Brunson, was a second round pick. Speaks to how the NBA draft process has changed to younger players. GMs saw Brunson as too old and too short. Never mind the fact that in his 3 years of college he won 2 natties as a starter, earned the #1 overall seed the other year, and was the national player of the year and Final Four MOP his final year.
Nah you see Leon Rose only made Rick Brunson his first client to get the godparental rights to Jalen and recruit him 2decades later and Thibs only hired his longtime friend and former player Rick Brunson as an assistant in Chicago to recruit 12 year old Jalen who he knew since he was a little kid more than a decade later.
Knicks have played the really long con.
Brunson nepotism had nothing to do with his draft. Even if he had zero connections. He still would've been drafted. He was averaging 19 ppg on .521 field goals and over 40% on 3 point shooting on Villanova as a x2 NCAA champ
Brunson still had to earn his way into the league, and had to earn the attention of the Knicks. If he averaged 4 points coming off the bench in Villanova I doubt Dallas would have given him a second thought.
na he’s got way too many haters. he was a top player in high school and did well in the combine. obviously he had some struggles in college, but he also experienced a life changing event. i think he moves like a pro from what i’ve seen, just needs some more experience vs high level players. obviously, he wouldn’t have been drafted this year if not for his dad, but i think he would have been in later years if he stayed. at this point i feel like he’s underrated. like austin rivers said, people will hate no matter what just because of his dad
5/3/2 on slightly worse NBA Killian Hayes shooting splits but with Giannis's FT shooting.
But unfortunately this is the same thing as Jalen Brunson playing for the Knicks despite the fact that Rick Brunson has been an assistant coach for 16 years, including 2 stints with Thibs in Chicago and Minny.
Nepotism gets folks jobs. We all use friends and family for connections. If we didn’t, it would be stupid.
Now if that person was incredibly incompetent and had actual influence on society I would be upset. Stuff like sports? You do you fam. ;)
Also, nepotism gets you jobs but unless you are the son of the owner in a private company, it doesn't protect you from being fired if you suck at your job.
I work for a HUGE company and we fired the son of a VP at corporate who thought he was untouchable. We had support from everyone at local level because he messed up with health and safety and professionalism.
It was justified, his father didn't give any feedback. To get at corporate level you have to give thousands of free hours, be a yes man and work non stop on your connections. Few people will protect problematic children who need the lesson anyway.
Exactly. I’m bothered by nepotism in politics / government, where vital services are being mismanaged by the failsons (and faildaughters) of mediocre politicians. But all this pearl-clutching over a #55 draft pick? Come on.
Not Even that, hes a #55 draft pick in an bad bad draft, who the fuck cares? People barely care about the lottery picks in this draft and somehow we should care if the #55 pick is ass?
if Jalen does accept the extension this summer vs. trying to sign a supermax extension next year (a $110m+ difference in salary)
maybe the agent, Sam Rose?
It’s just like Travis Kelce. After the Mahomes extension, it was clear they’d have to make cuts. Tyreke chose money and got traded to Miami. Travis chose winning and won another Super Bowl. Last summer before he ever dated Taylor Swift he was already in every commercial and easily made back the difference he gave up in salary. Now he’s dating Taylor and they gave him a nice raise anyways with their leftover cap space, he’s set for life.
Winning >>>> short term money
The qualifying condition being that they've already earned generational wealth and are in the position to choose winning over a greater degree of generational wealth. T
In the year he got drafted, Brunson won NCAA player of the year and won a title. Bronny put up 5/3/2 for a team that went 15-18.
Does this guy not understand what nepotism is?
Jalen Brunson doesn't need anybody to get a big as juicy contract and to be the leader of the NYK.
Bronny doesn't seem to be good enough to be drafted... in an awful draft.
I couldn’t care less about the nepotism, it’s not like the Lakers get any sort of advantage from this. I’m just annoyed it’s ALL we’re going to hear about for the next 11 months.
That ain’t their fault though. Like I’m sure Bronny feels even worse because no matter what would’ve happened at the draft, he would’ve got shit. Drafted? Well, insane nepotism. Undrafted? Wow, even LeGM couldn’t save his son. Undrafted and signed? Wow, no team would pick him up, but he got a job because of his father, what nepotism.
There was no winning in the situation
Thanasis is also 6'7". No basketball skills, but at least has enough size and athleticism that you could maybe convince yourself he could be a plus defender.
Bronny is 6'0" and can't shoot.
I love that every NBA talking head's response to the nepotism question is "it's a non issue, because here are a dozen other instances of nepotism in the NBA".
This is probably the most delusional defense of Bronny yet. All those guys (except Leon Rose's son) earned their stripes. Jalen Brunson to the Knicks was a confluence of talent, not his daddy holding the team hostage to draft his son.
people are misunderstanding. the question isnt about nepotism. its this:
“if you are the lakers, do you spend your 55th pick to keep the LeBron James, the greatest and most marketable basketball player in history, on your team while also scoring tons of free publicity and media interest.”
obviously the answer is yes 100% every single time.
Bronny isn't working in the lakers office or coaching. He's taking a roster spot away from a UCON or Gonzaga kid that didn't get drafted. He's not good enough to play at elite college level or NBA. This ain't going to end well for him like that kardashion kid in Lion king after they paid the producer $1mill.
Except Jalen Brunson was a legit prospect from Villanova and Bronny is a complete bum who nobody would know if not for his last name
Brunson averaged 19 ppg at an elite school while shooting over 40% from 3 the year he got drafted
Lakers stans are huffing so much copium right now.
The difference is Lebron doing an entire media campaign about how he didn’t get JJ Redick the coaching job and he isn’t trying to get the Lakers to draft his son. It’s more about Lebron being a clown.
I find this to be a false equivalency. Sports is inherently about competition and merit. This flies in the face of that and, other than Giannis’ brother (which I also have an issue with), what other players in the NBA have done this? (By this I mean get their relative on the roster).
the difference is brunson is actually good but the general point about nepotism is fair. just look at lebron's friend running an agency. sports have always been full of it. so are politics. more things in life are impacted by nepotism than not. sports are just more in the spotlight for it to be seen and criticized by the masses.
i remember seeing nepotism growing up with the coach's son in baseball/basketball teams i played for lol
So who here thinks that the ONLY reason Bronny was selected by Lakers was because Bron is there and he’s made it clear that’s his preference
Like if he wasn’t there playing for the lakers what’s the % chances out of a hundred the Lakers care enough to select him?
Jordan kicking himself he didn’t just draft Marcus back in 2012 and then suit up for like a week.
Jordan don’t even like his kids though so maybe not lol
I hate nepotism immensely and not just because it gave us two time exec of the year Bryan Colangelo after a 1 day search by his dad to find Hinkies replacement
It is somewhat funny that the defense isn't that bronny is a nba caliber player and deserving of the pick, but straight to "well nepotism is blatant in the league so..."
You know it’s bad when people are defending it by saying “well here’s other cases of nepotism, who cares, other 2nd round picks were not going to contribute to them winning”
Big nepotism fan. Let’s get Isaiah Hartenstein’s dad on the staff too.
Really nice dude actually. Also has a sick car.
Ducks legend. Flo is beloved in Eugene
I lol’d at this. I love the New York Villanovas
Win a chip in college, got to bring that magic to the Garden.
Should make his wife a brand ambassador with a nice salary while we're at it
We re-sign IHart with Early Bird then we offer his wife a brand influencer job worth 10m a year 😉 Then on his birthday, Dolan will give Hartenstein an art piece then some random "Brazilian Billionaire" named LanDo will buy said art piece for 10m
lol thats not a bad idea to launder / get stars to sign. wonder how much this happens that we dont know about
It’s a fucking terrible idea unless they have like the cia on the payroll to help hide it all and the cia are such big Knicks fans they like have Adam silver assassinated if he ever finds out. The nba still has more integrity than the Supreme Court when it comes to paying players. This is how you get destroyed like the timberwolves with Joe smith.
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Ryan Arcidiacono will be back I’m sure
I fucking loveee nepotism
Well, it’s different when you’re good, don’t forget that
Knicks got fined a 2025 2nd round pick for tampering in the signing of Jalen Brunson.
10/10 would tamper again
I don't know man, is Brunson really worth that contract and a 2nd round pic /s
Yeah, just imagine what you could do with that 2nd round pick. You could even draft a guy like Jalen Brunson
As long as you don't waste your money giving him a 4/56M extension
That would break the bank
Funniest part is Mark Cuban pretends to be the God of Sabermetrics, yet Brunson was the most "moneyball" player in the NBA and Cuban fuckin whiffed on him Classic case of a moron who pays people to make him look smart
He whiffed on Nash 20 years ago too, in case you’ve forgotten.
Gosh a team run that poorly surely must have less playoff success than the team they lost Brunson to
These threads hurt a lot more when the mavs hadnt made the finals in a post Brunson world lol I'm so happy with Kai (when he's not playing in Boston)
A boat is a boat but a mystery box could be anything !?
I know right? It worked! And they potentially got better with that guy they traded for.
Worth it I'd say
To early to say. The 2025 2nd round is stacked.
Think of all the 2nd round picks Leon could’ve traded that 2nd round pick for 😭
Oh no a second round pick … want Bronny James for free?
Bronny is a great pick at #55 for you guys. Who else could you draft at #55 that would guarantee Lebron stays a Laker for the rest of his career?
Shabazz Napier
That was some egregious shit. I believed in LeScout and took him on my fantasy team....poor choice
Naz Reid Jr
Bron was never going anywhere - he loves LA
Totally worth it
Could've just mentioned Giannis' brothers or Dame's cousin.
Or if he's insistent on the Knicks he could have mentionned JR Smiths brother who we signed for the Gleague and was so bad not even nepotism could save him
Same thing happened with Z Wade on the Salt Lake City Stars lol. His dad is a part owner of the team and he still got waived mid-season lol. I think he’s playing in Africa now or something lol.
I looked it up because I thought it couldn't be that bad He shot 26.7 from the field in 12 games. How????
Ball didnt go in the hoop
It's a make or miss league.
Magic, you need to go back to posting this type of analysis on Twitter
Big if true
Is it possible hoop was not big enough for ball? Because that would certainly explain some things.
How? Well, it was 8 of 30. Not saying a larger sample size was going to get a lot better, but even a great shooter can go ice cold for any given 30 shots. So it's not that hard to imagine a lesser player doing it spread out over 12 games.
Needs lessons from sharpshooter Bronny James
the suns gave a roster spot to zoran dragic. and no, that’s not a typo.
He even also had two handful of Miami appearances lol
At least Zoran was a decent Euroleague player at that time so it's not the worst case of nepotism. Someone like Thanasis was a bench warmer in Euroleague and Keljin Blevins can't even cut it in some no-name leagues.
At least he was good in Europe. Goran and Zoran were a great duo at Eurobasket 2013.
put some respect on Louisville legend Chris Smith's name /s
Yeah but did you see Keljin “Big Nepo” Blevins light up the Lakers that one time?
Don’t forget Steph getting his brother in-law on the team.
Steph got a whole-ass brother in the NBA and they keep giving him minutes it's fucking insane!
Steph is a nepo baby himself, no chance he makes it on his own merit
Steph, Kobe, Klay. One of the few nepo babies that surpassed their fathers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_second-generation_NBA_players Devin Booker, Brian Cook, Danny ferry, Kevin Love, Danny Manning, Al Horford, Andrew Wiggins , Pistol Pete Coach Spoelstra has probably surpassed his brilliant GM dad
Tbf Seth is one of the most efficient 3pt shooters in the league.
Yeah put some respect on Seth Curry, he proved he deserved a spot in the league.
Warriors' owner gave his son a front office position out of college with no experience, and they also hired Kerr's son to the coaching staff. They also signed Curry, Klay, and Demarcus' brothers to G-League deals.
Pretty sure the king's owner made his daughter like head of basketball operations or something with no experience, think she also ran their g league program for a while, and then quit all those to run a charity
Hey now, Damion Lee is a legit NBA player. 8 ppg on 15-20 minutes a night, good 3 point shooter, doesn't know how to play defense but he does try. He's a solid 11th man off the bench even without Steph being in the league.
Jr Smith brother played for the knicks but people have a problem with the lakers using a second round pick on lebron sons
Chris Smith. Maybe the worst player I’ve ever seen in the league. It’ll be interesting to see where Bronny lands on that scale.
Even as a Louisville fan, that dude had no business playing at the next level. Some scouts reported that he was the worst NBA player they’ve ever seen.
That final four run was fun. It is kinda funny how they replaced him and the cards became a juggernaut
The funniest part is that Russ Smith actually looked like he was related to JR
dame’s cousin might be worse lol
Giannis brother actually got drafted by a different team and played pro ball overseas. Not the same.
Kostas won an NBA championship and just won the EuroLeague with Panathinakos. The difference is he contributed to the Greek team way more than the Lakers.
He played 7 minutes per game, certainly more than he did with the Lakers but he wasn't exactly some key player.
One of them was on our championship team
It's not like people don't clown all of these examples.
Exactly. At least Brunson was good enough to earn his spot, it was just the location of where he landed. Bronny by all accounts did not earn his spot at all.
Thanasis on a different level tho.
Thanasty was drafted on his own merit, by a different team, and ahead of Bronny
That’s a bingo
And he’s the “Giannis whisperer”. When Bronny tells LeBron to chill the fuck out after he gets pissed off and does something dumb, then he can be compared to the multiple time 15MOTY.
Ya its not like people haven't called out that stuff too. Doesn't make it any better with Bronnie and it wont feel as authentic as if Bronnie earned his way into the league normally.
Jalen Brunson is good though
And Also played not on the Knicks for a while
The nepotism there isn't Jalen Brunson, it's giving Rick a job to get his son there
Rick Brunson was a Thibs assistant before Jalen was getting HS minutes
And Rick played for the Knicks when Thibs was the assistant coach back when Jalen was 2.
And Rick played for the Rockets when Thibs was the assistant coach back when Jalen was 9.
The whole plan took a while, but it was worth it lol
Holy I didn’t know there were that many connections and over such a long time
I saw this super cool podcast clip where Allen Houston talked about how Jalen used to go on the court in the Garden after games without a ball and imagine that he was playing
Allan* Houston
In their podcast I’m pretty sure Jalen say’s he wears his numbers cause of thibs
Ewing talked about how if he knew Brunson was going to be this good he would have been recruiting him since he was a 2 year old running around in all of their lockers to get him to go to Georgetown. All the jokes aside, dude was born to be a Knick. The amount of pictures that have been uncovered of him as a baby being held by Knick legends or their family is like something out of a movie script.
They were playing the long game. Light year chess, 6D ahead
People really do be making shit up
So we are gonna ignore the fact that Rick Brunson was on Thibs staff when he was the head coach in both Chicago and Minnesota? Cool
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This shitty attempt at a tweet clearly did.
Rick would of had the job regardless He has coached under thibs everywhere thibs has went
Rick Brunson was an assistant under Thibs for years prior to Jalen entering the league. Are you stupid?
The Knicks President is Jalen Brunson's Godfather and former agent. In fact, he was the one who pushed Donnie for a four year contract and no RFA at the end.
I can’t believe Brunson’s dad made Brunson a NCAA champion, smh nepotism at its finest
A ***TWO TIME*** NCAA champion Get it right, kid
If it wasn't for Sam Rose Villanova would be nothing! Nepotism making his buckets go in
The people comparing Jalen Brunson and Steph Curry to Bronny have to understand how stupid that is right?
Yeah, I get nepotism happens in the NBA and the world all the time. It's just a matter of fact in life. However, those that are comparing situations like Brunson and Curry are just ignoring a lot of details. Curry went to Davidson, of all places, and became one of the best college players ever. He was drafted 7th overall after 3 years of college. Brunson was a key member of two national championships at Villanova. He played 4 years in college and was drafted in the second round. Both of these guys benefitted from nepotism due to resources and name recognition, but neither of them were just given their opportunities. They had to go out and work and earn their spots in the NBA. Look, Bronny is going to be given a chance due to his last name and that's just a fact. Nothing I can do about it and maybe he'll eventually prove he belongs. But I'm not going to sit back and act like he earned this spot in a similar vein to guys like Brunson and Curry. That's just disrespectful to those guys.
Or even guys like Damien Lee or Seth Curry. If Bronny can earn minutes like those 2 he would have already overachieved over his current projections lol.
Nepotism isn't really Nepotism if the guy deserves it. That kind of the whole reason it's bad, its because more often than not it takes an opportunity from someone who actually deserves it. But you can would never say guys like Steph Curry or Ken Griffey Jr benefitted from nepotism.
Attempts at trying to downplay the nepotism just draws further attention to the talent disparity making the situation look more hilarious. It's not helping like they think it is haha.
Yeah, this analogy would work if Brunson was only in the NBA because of all of the above. He made it to the NBA on his own merits. And it's not even that they wasted a pick on Bronny. It's a 2nd round pick. Those are bullshit 99% of the time anyways (outside of the 3x MVP). It's that he's definitely going to be taking up a spot on the 15 when he shouldn't
This isn’t even about Brunson lol it’s about Rose
Brunson is a two time NCAA champion, leading his team on the second title. This made sure he was drafted 33rd overall. I think being good at basketball is the reason he made it to the NBA.
If anything Brunson flew heavily under the radar. When I saw him in college, I was convinced he would be a lottery pick but GMs apparently had other thoughts in mind
It’s wild that perhaps the best college basketball player of the 2010s, Jalen Brunson, was a second round pick. Speaks to how the NBA draft process has changed to younger players. GMs saw Brunson as too old and too short. Never mind the fact that in his 3 years of college he won 2 natties as a starter, earned the #1 overall seed the other year, and was the national player of the year and Final Four MOP his final year.
It was his height because all the other Nova boys drafted 1 round and had 3 years college. Josh struggled because of his age and doing 4 years.
As somebody who only watches in March. It’s him or Kaminsky right?
Doug McDermott
We can talk about where he should have been drafted but we all agree that he made it and he is an NBA player because he earned it.
GMs are so scared of 4 year college players but you can find value for sure like Dame and Brunson.
And Rick Brunson was a Thibs assistant prior to the Knicks.
Nah you see Leon Rose only made Rick Brunson his first client to get the godparental rights to Jalen and recruit him 2decades later and Thibs only hired his longtime friend and former player Rick Brunson as an assistant in Chicago to recruit 12 year old Jalen who he knew since he was a little kid more than a decade later. Knicks have played the really long con.
Knicks were going to draft him in 2018 but someone pressed the "Random Selection" button and they got Kevin Knox
Knicks wanted Ramon Sessions back and got Random Selection
Facts he legit won college player of the decade lmao
Yeah point taken that nepotism is rampant but Brunson and Bronny aren’t on the same planet lol
Brunson nepotism had nothing to do with his draft. Even if he had zero connections. He still would've been drafted. He was averaging 19 ppg on .521 field goals and over 40% on 3 point shooting on Villanova as a x2 NCAA champ
Brunson still had to earn his way into the league, and had to earn the attention of the Knicks. If he averaged 4 points coming off the bench in Villanova I doubt Dallas would have given him a second thought.
Shhh don’t bring your logic and reasonable analysis into this
Why are you saying this despite the point flying right over both of your heads 😭 It's not about Brunson, it's about all of his relatives.
I mean, if Bronny James ends up as good as Jalen Brunson did I’m sure people will eat crow
If he stays in the league after his dad retires, I'll eat crow. He's probably not even good enough for the g league
na he’s got way too many haters. he was a top player in high school and did well in the combine. obviously he had some struggles in college, but he also experienced a life changing event. i think he moves like a pro from what i’ve seen, just needs some more experience vs high level players. obviously, he wouldn’t have been drafted this year if not for his dad, but i think he would have been in later years if he stayed. at this point i feel like he’s underrated. like austin rivers said, people will hate no matter what just because of his dad
at this point, he has to be underrated. people acting like he cant even dribble a basketball.
It’s got me rooting for him. I always root for people r/nba has deemed worthless. It typically works out well.
I think he stands a way better chance of being an Ish Smith or Delon Wright type that sticks around for a while than some people want to admit
If you want to make a tampering case that's one thing but Jalen Brunson wasn't a 5 ppg player who probably shouldn't even be on an NBA roster
5/3/2 on slightly worse NBA Killian Hayes shooting splits but with Giannis's FT shooting. But unfortunately this is the same thing as Jalen Brunson playing for the Knicks despite the fact that Rick Brunson has been an assistant coach for 16 years, including 2 stints with Thibs in Chicago and Minny.
Why is everyone using horrible examples to compare with Bronny's situation?
Because there isn't an example as blatant as the Bronny situation so every existing example is going to be horrible by default lol
Because there are no actual examples of Bronny level players getting drafted in the modern era
Because there’s no defending the draft pick, so they try to minimize the blatant nepotism by comparing it to something else. Classic whataboutism.
lol you usually cry nepotism when the guy is undeserving or a bum. brunson is the opposite of that and he's underpaid.
You literally can bring up JR Smith’s brother if you want to shit on the Knicks for legitimate nepotism.
Exactly lol. That nepotism was so bad even the media talked trash about poor Chris Smith
If you want to make a Knicks Nepotism argument, call out Dolan or wait til Ryan Arcidiacono signs with them again
I went to high school with Jalen. He’s earned every second of his playing time throughout his career.
Nepotism gets folks jobs. We all use friends and family for connections. If we didn’t, it would be stupid. Now if that person was incredibly incompetent and had actual influence on society I would be upset. Stuff like sports? You do you fam. ;)
Also, nepotism gets you jobs but unless you are the son of the owner in a private company, it doesn't protect you from being fired if you suck at your job. I work for a HUGE company and we fired the son of a VP at corporate who thought he was untouchable. We had support from everyone at local level because he messed up with health and safety and professionalism. It was justified, his father didn't give any feedback. To get at corporate level you have to give thousands of free hours, be a yes man and work non stop on your connections. Few people will protect problematic children who need the lesson anyway.
Every industry is full of nepotism. Blue collar, white collar, sports, and etc.
Exactly. I’m bothered by nepotism in politics / government, where vital services are being mismanaged by the failsons (and faildaughters) of mediocre politicians. But all this pearl-clutching over a #55 draft pick? Come on.
Not Even that, hes a #55 draft pick in an bad bad draft, who the fuck cares? People barely care about the lottery picks in this draft and somehow we should care if the #55 pick is ass?
Which one of these in particular doesn’t do their job well?
if Jalen does accept the extension this summer vs. trying to sign a supermax extension next year (a $110m+ difference in salary) maybe the agent, Sam Rose?
If Brunson vocalized to his agent that his goal is to win a title, not make the most money possible, then the agent is doing a fantastic job
If he wins a title with the Knicks he is gonna make those money back later in his career/life
If he wins a title here he will not even need money NY will treat him like fucking royalty free of charge.
He wins a title, I'll kiss that big ass forehead and buy him a beer any time I see him.
It’s just like Travis Kelce. After the Mahomes extension, it was clear they’d have to make cuts. Tyreke chose money and got traded to Miami. Travis chose winning and won another Super Bowl. Last summer before he ever dated Taylor Swift he was already in every commercial and easily made back the difference he gave up in salary. Now he’s dating Taylor and they gave him a nice raise anyways with their leftover cap space, he’s set for life. Winning >>>> short term money
The qualifying condition being that they've already earned generational wealth and are in the position to choose winning over a greater degree of generational wealth. T
Clearly the guy who tweeted this
In the year he got drafted, Brunson won NCAA player of the year and won a title. Bronny put up 5/3/2 for a team that went 15-18. Does this guy not understand what nepotism is?
at least he didnt completely misunderstand a tweet about nepotism and jump to defend jalen brunson of all people
Jalen Brunson doesn't need anybody to get a big as juicy contract and to be the leader of the NYK. Bronny doesn't seem to be good enough to be drafted... in an awful draft.
Jalen Brunson is a good nba player though
It’s funny how most people connected to the NBA are responding to the blatant nepotism drafting of Bronny with whataboutism.
What he say fuck me for?
These reporters are sucking Laker dick so hard to get more access
Everyone does it , therefore its ok !
I couldn’t care less about the nepotism, it’s not like the Lakers get any sort of advantage from this. I’m just annoyed it’s ALL we’re going to hear about for the next 11 months.
That ain’t their fault though. Like I’m sure Bronny feels even worse because no matter what would’ve happened at the draft, he would’ve got shit. Drafted? Well, insane nepotism. Undrafted? Wow, even LeGM couldn’t save his son. Undrafted and signed? Wow, no team would pick him up, but he got a job because of his father, what nepotism. There was no winning in the situation
All noise to distract us from the fact that this kid has no business even sniffing an NBA court.
Thanasis erasure
Thanasis was drafted a year after giannis when he was still a project and getting to beocme a starter
Thanasis is also 6'7". No basketball skills, but at least has enough size and athleticism that you could maybe convince yourself he could be a plus defender. Bronny is 6'0" and can't shoot.
This is dumb. Rick has been on thibs staff since his Chicago days, this is not like he’s unqualified
r/nba spends a day talking about LeBron James’s son and regular agent practices…what are we going to talk about tomorrow?
I love that every NBA talking head's response to the nepotism question is "it's a non issue, because here are a dozen other instances of nepotism in the NBA".
People learning that "it's not what you know, it's who you know" is actual reality. IN REAL TIME
This is probably the most delusional defense of Bronny yet. All those guys (except Leon Rose's son) earned their stripes. Jalen Brunson to the Knicks was a confluence of talent, not his daddy holding the team hostage to draft his son.
people are misunderstanding. the question isnt about nepotism. its this: “if you are the lakers, do you spend your 55th pick to keep the LeBron James, the greatest and most marketable basketball player in history, on your team while also scoring tons of free publicity and media interest.” obviously the answer is yes 100% every single time.
u/yahoosports fire this man
Bronny isn't working in the lakers office or coaching. He's taking a roster spot away from a UCON or Gonzaga kid that didn't get drafted. He's not good enough to play at elite college level or NBA. This ain't going to end well for him like that kardashion kid in Lion king after they paid the producer $1mill.
Difference being that Jalen Brunson has NBA level skills. If Bronny wasnt Lebrons kid hes not even playing in China or Europe, fuck getting drafted.
Except Jalen Brunson was a legit prospect from Villanova and Bronny is a complete bum who nobody would know if not for his last name Brunson averaged 19 ppg at an elite school while shooting over 40% from 3 the year he got drafted Lakers stans are huffing so much copium right now.
The difference is Lebron doing an entire media campaign about how he didn’t get JJ Redick the coaching job and he isn’t trying to get the Lakers to draft his son. It’s more about Lebron being a clown.
This is the comment. Nobody would care if your weren't trying to insult our intelligence. LeBron thinks he's smarter than everybody lol
I find this to be a false equivalency. Sports is inherently about competition and merit. This flies in the face of that and, other than Giannis’ brother (which I also have an issue with), what other players in the NBA have done this? (By this I mean get their relative on the roster).
All those Roses, all those Jalens, and yet none are related to Jalen Rose
the difference is brunson is actually good but the general point about nepotism is fair. just look at lebron's friend running an agency. sports have always been full of it. so are politics. more things in life are impacted by nepotism than not. sports are just more in the spotlight for it to be seen and criticized by the masses. i remember seeing nepotism growing up with the coach's son in baseball/basketball teams i played for lol
So who here thinks that the ONLY reason Bronny was selected by Lakers was because Bron is there and he’s made it clear that’s his preference Like if he wasn’t there playing for the lakers what’s the % chances out of a hundred the Lakers care enough to select him?
Jordan kicking himself he didn’t just draft Marcus back in 2012 and then suit up for like a week. Jordan don’t even like his kids though so maybe not lol
I love they can’t even try to justify Rich’s behavior, so they have to pivot to “this whole fucking LEAUGE is crooked!”
What you say fuck me for??
People can come defend and say it’s not a good example, it’s still nepotism in the front office and multiple areas lol.
I hate nepotism immensely and not just because it gave us two time exec of the year Bryan Colangelo after a 1 day search by his dad to find Hinkies replacement
It is somewhat funny that the defense isn't that bronny is a nba caliber player and deserving of the pick, but straight to "well nepotism is blatant in the league so..."
All these horrible takes to defend the lakers and Bronny a nepotism is so weird
NBA writers HATE that Leon Rose refuses to talk to the media and it shows lmfaooo
I knew this was gonna lead to "lol Knicks", somehow. This sub never lets me down.
To be fair this sub is shitting all over this take
Damn way too many people in here don’t know sarcasm jfc
You know it’s bad when people are defending it by saying “well here’s other cases of nepotism, who cares, other 2nd round picks were not going to contribute to them winning”