McDavid absolutely high sticked and got away with it, but calling it intentional is an extreme stretch.Â
Watch the replays, he hits him in face, realizes it and flinches. You can tell by his body language and the wince that he makes that he expected to get a penalty.Â
Yeah I donât think itâs intentional, but out of all the soft calls to let this one go? I donât know. Too much game management. Call the game straight or put away the whistle. Itâs happening in every series. Itâs baffling the way these professional referees call most games.
My brother in Christ. If that was McDavid getting high sticked and then Hughes tied it up shortly after you, too, would be pissed.
I like the Oil, and I will cheer for the winner of this series, but we all need to agree... FUCK KELLY SUTHERLAND
No one saying you guys shouldnât be pissed. You should be. That was a terrible missed call. The issue I see most Oilers fans taking with is the claim that it was âintentionalâ.
Slashing is defined as near or towards a players hands. This was not the only "high sticking" call missed during the game. This is not why the Canucks lost the game.
It should be considered assault, and they should have charges pressed against them. Imagine if you walked down the street and smacked a dude in the nuts with a hockey stick. You'd get arrested.
No, I genuinely think that hockey allows way too much violence. They don't only allow fighting, but they encourage it.
I think I remember during the Boston v Vancouver Stanley Cup finals series in 2011, a Boston player punched one of the Sedin brothers 4 times in succession. The Sedin brother didn't retaliate.
Shit like that is a literal felony if you do it outside an ice rink. so why is it legal inside of one?
They arenât strangers walking down the street though? Theyâre playing a game.
Yes, things deserve penalties (such as Marchand ragdolling Daniel Sedin) but if you think physicality in sport should result in jail time then I donât think hockey is for you.
Youâre going to lose your mind when you learn about the existence of boxing.
I'm fine with sports being physical, but there's a difference between being physical in the game and literally attacking people. The difference is the intention. If two players are making a play for the puck and one slips and their stick ends up hitting the other one's nuts, that's fine. But with zero intention of making a play for the puck, and smacking someone in the nuts like this, yeah, that isn't physicality in sports, that's assault.
As for Boxing, it's consensual. Both fighters are going in and agreeing to hit each other ahead of time. And there are rules about how they can attack one another, for example, most combat sports prohibit striking the nuts. Hockey players aren't consenting to other players striking them in the nuts like that.
Fine the player and penalize after the game. Itâs so easy to remove nut shots like this. The fact the NHL feels theyâre part of the fabric of the game is so ridiculous.
Milan Lucic was the king of this. I donât see why itâs tolerated. Itâs kid shit.
Because it makes hockey fun, people will cry about players being unsportsmanlike and then turn around and say the season was boring. People should stop developing para social relationships with these people. So what if a player gets his nuts cracked. It's part of the reason they get paid millions.
Just made a similar comment.. and then searched the comments because I knew there'd be other fans here that would appreciate the fact that DEREK RYAN did this. I see you're a Flames fan, so I don't have to explain to you how out of character this was for him! lol
Once again, playoffs come and the refs go from refs to game managers. I'm an oilers fan, but we got away with a few last night. So did the nucks. We bitch every year at zero consistency and nothing ever changes.
True, I feel like that shouldn't have just been 2 minutes of 4 on 4
Like yeah, I will admit Hoglander started it, but you're telling me that a little push is the same severity as wacking a guy right between the legs? Especially since it was clearly intentional
It's ridiculous with the shit they got away with this evening. That overlooked stick to the face followed by subsequent "for some strange reason your face is bleeding - please leave the ice" was unbelievable.
The game was called equally poorly both ways.
Oilers had two penalties called against them that were non-calls all season. A high stick was missed on Zach Hyman in the first. McDavid was clearly tripped after scoring on a dangerous play.
It went both way. Regardless of who wins this series, these refs can't move on.
The funny thing is that we usually don't. Or haven't over recent years at least. We get screwed by the refs as much as every Canadian team does (and we all do). We have gotten away with a whole lot this series though, not going to deny that.
 if you ain't cheating you aren't trying. If you watch every play someone is doing something penalty worthy holding sticks grabbing legs running a pick on a defender etc but if you don't push boundaries you don't get an advantage and that quarter of a second slowdown is all you need to cash in at their levelÂ
They play dirty, which is why I do not respect them. Every team has players that hit hard or they have someone that chirps, but the Oilers do dirty shit like this all the time. I always root against them.
Draisaitl has the second highest career points per game in NHL playoff history, so I love him. Having said that, dude needs to figure out his retaliation issues. It costs us a lot and often.
I hadnât checked the score, but after seeing two posts about oilers getting away with things I made a spot on conjecture of the outcome of the game. Not an Oilers evil by any means, just the same BS every year come playoff time with teams of different colored crests getting away with murder. Which in turn correlates with them getting some games in their favor.
This is a 5 min major. Quinn Hughes got cut deep... that's another 4 minutes. McDavid should have been in the box for 6 mins minimum this game.
Kelly Sutherland has a hard on for fucking the Canucks
Spector actually wrote a good article today! Itâs about the organization and its fans having a culture of complaining about the refs. Check it out, he doesnât write quality columns very often!
Sorry, is there a ref the Oilers play with that actually changes the betting odds in favor of the other team?
You good with McDavid getting a high stick to the face, cut wide open and no call? How about we get a goon to slew foot him dangerously into the boards next game with no call? Or how about a cup check that's normally a 5min major and a game misconduct?
Stating that there are "missed calls on both sides" is not an equivalent argument. That comparison is outrageous in this case. People need to come back to earth
I knew on the title I would hate it. So unnecessary. How does the NHL do suspensions b/c clearly intentional and not within normal hockey standards like fistfights
edit: You should get an extra penalty for racking a guy maliciously. We all know what you're doing. Every guy who's ever gotten a nut shot in sports knows how bad it is
Can someone clear something up for me since I only played lacrosse, not hockey so this never happened to me- heâs wearing a cup so would this really hurt that much? Sorry for probably dumbass question.
He's supposed to be but may have chosen not to. Also, getting such a fine point like the tip of a stick to the groin can be incredibly painful if the cup isn't perfectly positioned.Â
After the Islanders series, I was told this should be embellishment.
Do agree this could be grounds for a 1 game suspension, definitely a penalty (not for embellishment)
I was a goalie for 15 years, thatâs my patented hack move on forwards plated in front of me. Itâs the only place unprotected, the can wonât cover the undercarriage at all.
Give me credit!
Kelly Sutherland has cost our team 14 minutes of power play if we call things by the book.
5 for Nurse's hit on Petey head-first into the boards
4 for slicing open Quinn Hughes' cheek
5 for what is clearly an intentional spear. Eichel got the boot for something much less serious a month ago.
I know it is the playoffs and the players should be tougher, but nearly giving someone a concussion should not go uncalled.
The 10 min misconduct on Sedin in 2011
Boarding on Sedin in 2013
Cross checking on Bieksa in 2013
0-8 with him on the ice
And the dude wears 11 to boot
Agent of Messier
Is it me or are way more dudes cup-checking way more than they used to? I feel like it was a ârun my goalie and find outâ kind of unwritten rule in my day
You can punch him in the face, cross check to the ribs, slash to the hands, whatever - but you DO NOT go for the boys. That's a strict violation of bro-code, Derrick.
I thought head shots were a major?
Lmfaoooo A1 dad joke right there
Thats a hoglander, alright.
Probably more of a piglet right now.
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Hognomore
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Looooool
I liked this one
You got me real good with this one bud, I can't stop laughing
Landed him good. #10 deserves a 2 hander now
There can only be one
Fuck you Shoresy!
Give yer balls a tug!
Hoglander's balls got more than a tug there.
Heâs gonna get ya
You gotta set the tone
Let âem know youâre out there
Itâs the playoffs
Fill em up and run em through, boys!!
Who's gonna set the tone now boys?
Who's gonna set the tone now boys?
Who's gonna set the tone now boys?
That'll be falsetto for a day or two
For What!
Gybat
They didn't get the give your balls a tug reference. I did tho. Take this upvote
That's why you play a curved stick. Gotta get around the cup.
Spearing someone in the junk should be suspendable. That would end this garbage real quick.
Hoglander was assessed a 2 min minor for that.
This should be considered the same as an intentional slash to the face in my opinion Like the one mcdavid got away with
McDavid absolutely high sticked and got away with it, but calling it intentional is an extreme stretch. Watch the replays, he hits him in face, realizes it and flinches. You can tell by his body language and the wince that he makes that he expected to get a penalty.Â
he looked guilty on the bench after too, was an accident I think
High stick for sure, intentional is extremely doubtful. He looked pretty ashamed on the bench.Â
He always looks like that
Because he plays for the Oilers.. lol
Yeah I donât think itâs intentional, but out of all the soft calls to let this one go? I donât know. Too much game management. Call the game straight or put away the whistle. Itâs happening in every series. Itâs baffling the way these professional referees call most games.
His wasnât intentional but you donât care about that and just wanted a way to show horn in a red hearing.
My brother in Christ. If that was McDavid getting high sticked and then Hughes tied it up shortly after you, too, would be pissed. I like the Oil, and I will cheer for the winner of this series, but we all need to agree... FUCK KELLY SUTHERLAND
No one saying you guys shouldnât be pissed. You should be. That was a terrible missed call. The issue I see most Oilers fans taking with is the claim that it was âintentionalâ.
The more I look at mcdavids high stick the more clear it was intentional actually
I agree. He knew where his stick was and where Hughes' face was. If not intentional, it was at least very dumb.
Slashing is defined as near or towards a players hands. This was not the only "high sticking" call missed during the game. This is not why the Canucks lost the game.
It should be considered assault, and they should have charges pressed against them. Imagine if you walked down the street and smacked a dude in the nuts with a hockey stick. You'd get arrested.
If something is too egregious on the ice, things like that can happen. (See Todd Bertuzzi)
Itâs rarely done, though. Which is a shame in my opinion. Some of these incidents are straight up assaults.
This is /S yah?
No, I genuinely think that hockey allows way too much violence. They don't only allow fighting, but they encourage it. I think I remember during the Boston v Vancouver Stanley Cup finals series in 2011, a Boston player punched one of the Sedin brothers 4 times in succession. The Sedin brother didn't retaliate. Shit like that is a literal felony if you do it outside an ice rink. so why is it legal inside of one?
They arenât strangers walking down the street though? Theyâre playing a game. Yes, things deserve penalties (such as Marchand ragdolling Daniel Sedin) but if you think physicality in sport should result in jail time then I donât think hockey is for you. Youâre going to lose your mind when you learn about the existence of boxing.
I'm fine with sports being physical, but there's a difference between being physical in the game and literally attacking people. The difference is the intention. If two players are making a play for the puck and one slips and their stick ends up hitting the other one's nuts, that's fine. But with zero intention of making a play for the puck, and smacking someone in the nuts like this, yeah, that isn't physicality in sports, that's assault. As for Boxing, it's consensual. Both fighters are going in and agreeing to hit each other ahead of time. And there are rules about how they can attack one another, for example, most combat sports prohibit striking the nuts. Hockey players aren't consenting to other players striking them in the nuts like that.
That's ridiculous. The slash to the face that Hyman took with no call was clearly intentional, but not that one.
It was neither a poke nor a stab
That was 100% a spear.
Agreed. Call it intent to injure and start at 2 games first offense. Marchand would get 82 games next time he does it .
At what point do we start fining the refs for missed calls
They both got penalties. Hoggy for cross checking just before and Ryan for nut check.
"nut check" made me laugh way harder than it should've
âYup, still there.â
The Hog was called for interference⌠bit of a stretch.
Hahahah no.
Same time they start fining players for missing the net and fining goalies for getting scored on.
Thatâs a real slippery slope there.
droppin it like its hot in public is crazy but bro emoted live mid game
Heâs just Lander now. No more Hog
Don't forget, Hoglander was penalized on the play
Landed that spear right on his hĂśg
Fine the player and penalize after the game. Itâs so easy to remove nut shots like this. The fact the NHL feels theyâre part of the fabric of the game is so ridiculous. Milan Lucic was the king of this. I donât see why itâs tolerated. Itâs kid shit.
Because it makes hockey fun, people will cry about players being unsportsmanlike and then turn around and say the season was boring. People should stop developing para social relationships with these people. So what if a player gets his nuts cracked. It's part of the reason they get paid millions.
I'd take a steel beam to the balls for a cool 1.0 mill, and I think you would too.
Dirty dirty dirty
That instant drop after he got hit physically hurt me too
Landed right in the hog.
 Derek Ryan's my favourite rando from another team, glad to see him in full playoff form, haha. Looks like he's been learning from Draisaitl.Â
Just made a similar comment.. and then searched the comments because I knew there'd be other fans here that would appreciate the fact that DEREK RYAN did this. I see you're a Flames fan, so I don't have to explain to you how out of character this was for him! lol
Exactly, he's the most inert, reliable player I can name every other play of his career. He's earned a free pass, and I guess he used it here lol.
Once again, playoffs come and the refs go from refs to game managers. I'm an oilers fan, but we got away with a few last night. So did the nucks. We bitch every year at zero consistency and nothing ever changes.
Turned the blade for more surface area. Not his first rodeo
Oh look, an uncalled 5 minute major.
100% 5 and a game. Shouldâve been ejected, this actually happened to me once. The guy got booted
True, I feel like that shouldn't have just been 2 minutes of 4 on 4 Like yeah, I will admit Hoglander started it, but you're telling me that a little push is the same severity as wacking a guy right between the legs? Especially since it was clearly intentional
look what jack eichel did to get a game misconduct and then look at this đ
Fucking unbelievable reffing
Iâm Still pretty new too watching hockey, but holy FUCK do the oilers get away with shit
They didnât get away with it through, it was called a penalty.
Spearing like that is an automatic 5 minute major, is that what they called?
Just a cup check, no biggie
And Oilers fans will tell you his nuts ran into the stick.
It's ridiculous with the shit they got away with this evening. That overlooked stick to the face followed by subsequent "for some strange reason your face is bleeding - please leave the ice" was unbelievable.
The game was called equally poorly both ways. Oilers had two penalties called against them that were non-calls all season. A high stick was missed on Zach Hyman in the first. McDavid was clearly tripped after scoring on a dangerous play. It went both way. Regardless of who wins this series, these refs can't move on.
The too many men immediately before the Zadorov goal as well. All around shit reffing.
Hyman sticked himself lmao
Did he? I only saw the one angle and my buddy was pretty up in arms about it lol. Well, doesn't change every other play I guess haha.
Those are some Mighty fine salty tears youâve got theređ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
The funny thing is that we usually don't. Or haven't over recent years at least. We get screwed by the refs as much as every Canadian team does (and we all do). We have gotten away with a whole lot this series though, not going to deny that.
 if you ain't cheating you aren't trying. If you watch every play someone is doing something penalty worthy holding sticks grabbing legs running a pick on a defender etc but if you don't push boundaries you don't get an advantage and that quarter of a second slowdown is all you need to cash in at their levelÂ
Rules are written to be FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER!!!
They play dirty, which is why I do not respect them. Every team has players that hit hard or they have someone that chirps, but the Oilers do dirty shit like this all the time. I always root against them.
Landed right on the hog. Oof
Hog slapped
Old-time hockey! Giverâ!
Just the tip.
And that was the cleanest play in the game.
âCup checkâ is what youâre looking for
Dirty play, but I canât help but chuckle. Nucks played a good game last night.
Spearing at its finest
How is this not a suspension? Can the league not review this?
Also, is this the official NHL sub? Cuz it fucking sucks. No discourse--just downvotes and hard feelings.
I may be wrong. But that wasn't Draisaitl. Which is more surprising than the lack of call
There was a call he got a penalty and that is Derek Ryan
Draisaitl has the second highest career points per game in NHL playoff history, so I love him. Having said that, dude needs to figure out his retaliation issues. It costs us a lot and often.
Number 10 Not Draisaitl, Draisaitl is number 29
The Stormin Mormon Derek Cup check Ryan
Supplemental discipline from the league would be nice on garbage like this, that's intent to injure imho.
Cup check!
Thatâs why youâre suppose to wear your dick guard
There can be only one...testacle. *Hoglander* (2024)
Of course you take both guys in this situation. Unreal
that landered on his Hog
Oiler's will do anything to find a cup except win one.
I thought shorsy was the dirtiest player
Oilers getting away with nonsense that whole game
I hadnât checked the score, but after seeing two posts about oilers getting away with things I made a spot on conjecture of the outcome of the game. Not an Oilers evil by any means, just the same BS every year come playoff time with teams of different colored crests getting away with murder. Which in turn correlates with them getting some games in their favor.
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This is a 5 min major. Quinn Hughes got cut deep... that's another 4 minutes. McDavid should have been in the box for 6 mins minimum this game. Kelly Sutherland has a hard on for fucking the Canucks
The dude wears 11... People who wear 11 and aren't Wayne Maki love to screw us.
Spector actually wrote a good article today! Itâs about the organization and its fans having a culture of complaining about the refs. Check it out, he doesnât write quality columns very often!
Haha yeah I'm sure it's a top tier article when it aligns with your beliefs
That whining about calls and non calls is pointless and annoying? Yeah, but spec is almost always dead wrong so this is refreshing.
Sorry, is there a ref the Oilers play with that actually changes the betting odds in favor of the other team? You good with McDavid getting a high stick to the face, cut wide open and no call? How about we get a goon to slew foot him dangerously into the boards next game with no call? Or how about a cup check that's normally a 5min major and a game misconduct? Stating that there are "missed calls on both sides" is not an equivalent argument. That comparison is outrageous in this case. People need to come back to earth
Ooof yeah exactly like that
The lack of empathy of staggering lol
Cause nothing new or different is happening to you, personally.
It got called a slash instead of a spear *and* they gave the Oil the even up call on the play too.
Are you on crack
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I knew on the title I would hate it. So unnecessary. How does the NHL do suspensions b/c clearly intentional and not within normal hockey standards like fistfights edit: You should get an extra penalty for racking a guy maliciously. We all know what you're doing. Every guy who's ever gotten a nut shot in sports knows how bad it is
Pietrangelo got a single game for a two handed slash as hard as he could on Draisaitl's wrist last year. No one's getting suspended for a cup check.Â
"Hey you think I could chop this guys hand off?" "Maybe.'
ok. Hockey goes hard
Can someone clear something up for me since I only played lacrosse, not hockey so this never happened to me- heâs wearing a cup so would this really hurt that much? Sorry for probably dumbass question.
He's supposed to be but may have chosen not to. Also, getting such a fine point like the tip of a stick to the groin can be incredibly painful if the cup isn't perfectly positioned.Â
Thanks bro. Makes sense. Canât imagine not wearing a nut bunker playing hockey or lacrosse.
Now *that* shoulda been a penalty
It was
Really? I didnât realize he was given a 5 minute for that. Because thatâs what spearing is penalized as.
Ya he didn't get 5 even though I agree with you on that but he did get one
After the Islanders series, I was told this should be embellishment. Do agree this could be grounds for a 1 game suspension, definitely a penalty (not for embellishment)
someone been taking lessons form draisitl
Want to act like a dick, okay cool now you get one in the dick...
Learning the ways of the force by Drai. Team has perfected the art of spearing nuts
I was a goalie for 15 years, thatâs my patented hack move on forwards plated in front of me. Itâs the only place unprotected, the can wonât cover the undercarriage at all. Give me credit!
Is this at least fine-able or something under the CBA? Should be at least 2 for slashing and 2 for unsportsmanlike. Definition of a low blow
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100% 5 and a game
Missed 5 and a game so its suspension?
Damn, take that number and plan a solid revenge hit
The way his knees buckled I burst out laughing couldnât help it
Should be a suspension
Kelly Sutherland has cost our team 14 minutes of power play if we call things by the book. 5 for Nurse's hit on Petey head-first into the boards 4 for slicing open Quinn Hughes' cheek 5 for what is clearly an intentional spear. Eichel got the boot for something much less serious a month ago. I know it is the playoffs and the players should be tougher, but nearly giving someone a concussion should not go uncalled.
The 10 min misconduct on Sedin in 2011 Boarding on Sedin in 2013 Cross checking on Bieksa in 2013 0-8 with him on the ice And the dude wears 11 to boot Agent of Messier
Youâre forgetting the Kane slew foot on Hughes.
Lowlander
Ouch
Managed to lander right on the hog
hoglandee
He sure landed on that hog
Hockey is a fascinating, brutal sport.
Oilers get 1 vote for House Hogwarts!
That hog wonât be landinâer any time soon
Just a little cup check
The stick landed on his hog.
So how does ryan get a penalty on that???
The corgi of prediction couldnât have predicted this
Kelly Sutherland, the biggest Canucks' fan, ladies and gentlemen
Is it me or are way more dudes cup-checking way more than they used to? I feel like it was a ârun my goalie and find outâ kind of unwritten rule in my day
Don't fuck with DR, I guess.
That's a tiny little tap far from a slash and he's wearing a cup. Was a nice little dive there.
Well it landed on his hog.
Loll
He was just making sure he was wearing a cup! Aka the cup check.
Holy shit. What a cowardly move.
Sack tap
Oilers played dirty as fuck⌠but why not, the refs werenât calling anything on themđ
Thatâs fked
Man the reffing is getting worse and worse every fucking year.
Hyman trying to circumcise players
Added to the long list of non-calls.
Sick league
Thatâs what we call a Gourmet Shot boys
You can punch him in the face, cross check to the ribs, slash to the hands, whatever - but you DO NOT go for the boys. That's a strict violation of bro-code, Derrick.