Basically for measuring distances. If something is on a bigger base, it has a larger area of influence, as you measure from the base when you're measuring shooting, movement, auras etc.
Screening and auras are the two main things that base size will affect; they're measured x" from the edge of the base so if you have a bigger base you cover more of the board in all directions
I mean they deleted Nob w Waagh banner and then made Bully boys detachment. I’d say you’re probably going to see some ability similar to his through detachment rules etc
I bought a legit Finecast Banner Nob and never even used him or finished painting him. I am not too worried because he should fit into a regular Nob unit easily, and I have a ragtag assortment of minis short one Nob for a unit anyway. He will just have a taller boss pole than the rest, but blame GW if that gives me a very slight LOS advantage.
That seems to be pretty much all new orks lately. They've been giving them more human proportions and characteristics which I'm not a fan of. I prefer the older weird mastiff/pitbull proportions with the huge block head, big mouth, and huge hands.
I can't remember what edition it was, but it was fairly recent (8/9) that made the mega mek the only infantry model with a KFF so it's got precedent at least
If GW were to make sense again, they'd make it so it's one datasheet with points upgrade options for taking the mega armour, shokk attack gun, or Kustom Force Field like it was in the beginning.
One Big Mek datasheet with an option for SAG, KFF, Kustom Mega Blasta, or Shokk boosta, then the other for the Mega Armoured version, would probably be the way to go.
We also lost KFF on the gorka/ morkanaut datasheet in 10th. Stompa may get a bit of a change up since it's in the new box. L there was a leak for a walker detachment. Plus, big mek mega armor still has it. I'm thinking they'll bring it back on one of our walker units.
The rules for the Morkanaut kinda reflect the KFF since the Mork has a 5+ & the Gork doesn’t, but yeah it doesn’t work the way it did before - projecting outwards
If you have a 3D printer you can print a 50mm base with a 32mm or 40mm hole in it , glue the old mini in, do a bit of basing repair around the edge and call it a day
I did that with all my 25mm -> 32mm conversions
One option is they do away with the KFF and make it a stratagem for a mek inspired detachment. Certain armies have seen wargear/abilities currently on units get turned into stratagems. The other way is that maybe it'll be an enhancement in a particular detachment.
See, the big mek in mega armor is a scrawny fella who makes himself look big with his fancy armor. The new big mek is big because he’s eatin good and he’s krumpin gitz
Honestly, I don't think it will. I plan on just rebasing mine on a 32 and calling him a regular Mek. I don't play a lot of comp anyway and most of my group isn't going to care as long as the base matches.
They rebased regular boyz from 25 to 32. They could rebase the Big mek kff on a 50mm. The choppa is also a wrench so it could replace the power wrench the new big mek has. Now the big gun might be a wargear options and be swappable with kff. We'll see when the codex is available.
They could possibly turn it into a special wargear option, like that one choppa (I don't recall it's name) or possibly a CP or stratagem effect. Or maybe it's just gonna be gone.
Was seeing several people suggesting something like this but I don't see a clear way for them to fold the KFF mek into another sheet, unless its with the SAG mek, where its mostly a case of resulting in a confusing name (Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun - Without Shokk Attack Gun?) and probably weird leader/bodyguard pairings.
Small mek and new big mek have different base sizes, New mek and Mega mek have big ol suits and weapon options of their own, etc.
All seems like a too many differences to be added as any reasonably worded wargear option for any of them.
Gotta say, I think KFF mek is going to legends at best
It could end up being like some of the Marine characters. Big Mek comes with a power wrench and slugga. They may switch both for:
KFF
SAG
Etc.
The rules are the model is supposed to be on the base supplied. Most characters are on a larger base it seems, so the default guy could now be a 40mm. But, it also doesn't matter. To field the SAG, you buy the SAG kit and use that base.
i suppose they could allow any of them to use a KFF but my point is more that there's no easy way to accurately represent the old big mek with kff model using the datasheet of one of the other meks with just a wargear option since there are so many differences between them
This brings a question up, since I’m pretty new: why does the base size matter and how does it affect the game?
Basically for measuring distances. If something is on a bigger base, it has a larger area of influence, as you measure from the base when you're measuring shooting, movement, auras etc. Screening and auras are the two main things that base size will affect; they're measured x" from the edge of the base so if you have a bigger base you cover more of the board in all directions
Okay thanks! That clears things up a lot!
I mean they deleted Nob w Waagh banner and then made Bully boys detachment. I’d say you’re probably going to see some ability similar to his through detachment rules etc
I bought a legit Finecast Banner Nob and never even used him or finished painting him. I am not too worried because he should fit into a regular Nob unit easily, and I have a ragtag assortment of minis short one Nob for a unit anyway. He will just have a taller boss pole than the rest, but blame GW if that gives me a very slight LOS advantage.
The face on the large based Big Mek doesn't look proppa orky, it looks like a humie!! Iz an imposturr!!
Reminds me of a greener Uruk-hai tbh lol same with new Snikrot, I still like em tho. Jus different. Plus it has a more standard roaring head! :D
That seems to be pretty much all new orks lately. They've been giving them more human proportions and characteristics which I'm not a fan of. I prefer the older weird mastiff/pitbull proportions with the huge block head, big mouth, and huge hands.
The other head make it better. This one looks like the painboy, orks with shut mouths are a coinflip
I can't remember what edition it was, but it was fairly recent (8/9) that made the mega mek the only infantry model with a KFF so it's got precedent at least
If GW were to make sense again, they'd make it so it's one datasheet with points upgrade options for taking the mega armour, shokk attack gun, or Kustom Force Field like it was in the beginning.
Yeah I feel like they really just need to simplify everything a bit, maybe make one named mek character and the rest all one sheet
One Big Mek datasheet with an option for SAG, KFF, Kustom Mega Blasta, or Shokk boosta, then the other for the Mega Armoured version, would probably be the way to go.
seems likely the Mek will probably be moved onto a 40mm base perhaps and he'll be rolled into it as weapon options?
Oh huh, I thought the mek had a 40 too, glad I listened to a friend when basing my kff meks
What if the mek is upgraded to 40mm base?
Any source on Big Mek being on 50mm base?
I am also wondering
We also lost KFF on the gorka/ morkanaut datasheet in 10th. Stompa may get a bit of a change up since it's in the new box. L there was a leak for a walker detachment. Plus, big mek mega armor still has it. I'm thinking they'll bring it back on one of our walker units.
The rules for the Morkanaut kinda reflect the KFF since the Mork has a 5+ & the Gork doesn’t, but yeah it doesn’t work the way it did before - projecting outwards
If you have a 3D printer you can print a 50mm base with a 32mm or 40mm hole in it , glue the old mini in, do a bit of basing repair around the edge and call it a day I did that with all my 25mm -> 32mm conversions
Dis git is proppa kunnin
One option is they do away with the KFF and make it a stratagem for a mek inspired detachment. Certain armies have seen wargear/abilities currently on units get turned into stratagems. The other way is that maybe it'll be an enhancement in a particular detachment.
the new big mek is on a 50mm base?? dang scale creep is real when the mega armor version is smaller
See, the big mek in mega armor is a scrawny fella who makes himself look big with his fancy armor. The new big mek is big because he’s eatin good and he’s krumpin gitz
Uhhh he’s big cos he’s in a big pair of robot stilts – the main guy’s no bigger by the look of it
An’ how ‘e get dose robo stilts? ‘E ‘ad emself a propa foight! Iz don’t see da Mega Mek wiff robo stilts from a propa foight!
Honestly, I don't think it will. I plan on just rebasing mine on a 32 and calling him a regular Mek. I don't play a lot of comp anyway and most of my group isn't going to care as long as the base matches.
They rebased regular boyz from 25 to 32. They could rebase the Big mek kff on a 50mm. The choppa is also a wrench so it could replace the power wrench the new big mek has. Now the big gun might be a wargear options and be swappable with kff. We'll see when the codex is available.
They could possibly turn it into a special wargear option, like that one choppa (I don't recall it's name) or possibly a CP or stratagem effect. Or maybe it's just gonna be gone.
Could have the KFF be an option for the Big Mek the way it is with the Mega Armour one.
They won’t. We’ve got little Mekboy, SAG, Megamek and now Ol’ Robut Trousers.
Was seeing several people suggesting something like this but I don't see a clear way for them to fold the KFF mek into another sheet, unless its with the SAG mek, where its mostly a case of resulting in a confusing name (Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun - Without Shokk Attack Gun?) and probably weird leader/bodyguard pairings. Small mek and new big mek have different base sizes, New mek and Mega mek have big ol suits and weapon options of their own, etc. All seems like a too many differences to be added as any reasonably worded wargear option for any of them. Gotta say, I think KFF mek is going to legends at best
It could end up being like some of the Marine characters. Big Mek comes with a power wrench and slugga. They may switch both for: KFF SAG Etc. The rules are the model is supposed to be on the base supplied. Most characters are on a larger base it seems, so the default guy could now be a 40mm. But, it also doesn't matter. To field the SAG, you buy the SAG kit and use that base.
Could be wargear option for all of them. Or maybe a specific one to a detachment? I’m just hoping it’s not gone.
i suppose they could allow any of them to use a KFF but my point is more that there's no easy way to accurately represent the old big mek with kff model using the datasheet of one of the other meks with just a wargear option since there are so many differences between them
Think they will delete that version since its finecast and the new one covers the Big Mek without mega armor