I had this sort of epiphany today when having a conversation about how awful WIP and most of the Philly sports media has become, especially how they talk about the Phillies. This will always be a football-first town so a lot of the personalities that they hire need to be more familiar with football than any other sport. And for a lot of these guys that's where their expertise ends. But they still have to talk about other sports, so when they do it, they try to analyze baseball and the Phillies like they would the Eagles.
That's why you have guys freaking out over a couple losses or a small cold streak. In football, a couple losses strung together can tank your season. It's not like that in baseball at all. Same way they analyze young players who might be struggling. In football, if a guy doesn't start to show stuff in year one or two, he can quickly become a bust. But baseball players often take time to get their footing in the league and sometimes they might struggle and go down to AAA and then come back up.
There are very few people who know enough about baseball to properly talk about and analyze it...pair that with the emergence of hot take artists throughout sports media and I think that's a big part of why WIP, The Fanatic and all these clowns have devolved into what they are today.
So. I occasionally share the fun NJDOT messages. Today there’s a new billboard on coming off the Walt Whitman bridge into the city. It’s an ice cream bar
“Lick me til ice cream”
Last min: anyone want two tickets for tonight’s game HOF club?
Only got them to come to cole’s retirement ceremony and got stranded on the BSR and will now have to drive and miss it.
dbacks fans are in for a treat. Kruk and tmac in the booth tonight for Apple TV.. and some other guy from Colorado apparently lol 😂😂 I don’t wanna see tmac be unbiased ugh
TMac (if still with CBS) should go to Nashville again to call the UD Vanderbilt game and bring Kruk for the antics though he might not translate as well to CFB
Kruk: “Tom, I think there’s more UD people than Vandy people here”
TMac: “don’t worry John, I’m sure them and the rest of the SEC are already aware.”
Kruk: “Also I counted at least 4 people faceplant on those scooters on Broadway”
Gates open at 5:35, they tell you to be in your seats at 6:25, what the fuck? I’m standing out here and the line is a mile long. 50 minutes to get situated, food, merch, this is a joke.
More traffic plus worse operations leads to a significantly worse experience. I’m obviously happy to have more fans, but the team has to make the operations better to be able to support fans being back like they were 15 years ago. My complaint is about the team, not the fans.
I mean, fairweather fans do annoy me when they act like they’re not, yeah. Especially the people that doom constantly about every game like it’s a football game. I get it though, baseball is a slog compared to other sports and not many people are going to want to tune in to watch a 70 win team.
So much for 30 min early gates. lol
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Bryce repping the Vols who play for the NCAA championship this weekend. I’m not a fan and their coach seems like an arrogant dick but I suppose I must follow Bryce
So Rob sits stott and marsh because they can’t hit lefties , so they never play lefties , so they can’t improve.
You aren’t sitting them come playoff time so why aren’t you getting them at bats now? Makes no sense
I used to say the same stuff, but at a certain point there’s no way to justify playing marsh against lefties. He’s absolutely abysmal against them. As u/nintenjew has pointed out, he is getting practice against lefties *in practice* plus he does start against some lefties who the analytics say he should be ok against, and even then he’s not good. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a little more action than he does against lefties, but I also can’t justify calling for Rojas’s head cause he can’t hit as I’ve been all season (and I know you have been too) and then saying marsh should play against lefties when marsh against lefties is worse than Rojas in general.
As far as Stott, i think they’re just choosing their spots to keep sosa in the lineup.
> you aren’t sitting them come playoff time
Well, Marsh actually did sit against lefties in the 2023 playoffs. Both games against the Marlins, and NLDS G2 against Fried.
wow just looked at phillies tix for the first time in awhile, brutal. was thinking about dropping 100 on two tix but that dont even get standing room right now
Please make sure you’re staying hydrated and taking care of yourself and those close to you in this heat wave. Heat stroke is no joke. Symptoms to watch out for: headaches, dizziness, confusion, and posting threads to r/phillies calling the team to sign Trevor Bauer.
Dehydration is a myth! I haven’t had a drop of water all day and I’m completely fine! Completely unrelated but since we need outfield help what do you think about bringing Nick Williams back?
This lineup is awful! Bring back our hurt catcher, our .400 OPS vs lefties outfielder, our optioned CF, and obviously no days off for stott!
And WHY do we not have a 5th cy young candidate on our roster??? Surely Walker is the worst 5th starter in the league, right??? /s
I have no idea who they are without their uniforms. Some normal guy with a scruffy beard at first base? Could be anyone. With a Cardinals uniform? Oh, it's Paul Goldschmidt. As a platypus, I think you'd be well aware of this problem.
I also think it's a pride thing to see your own team represented and see how many of each team makes the allstar game
I always used to get sad when I'd see the snazzy all-star uniforms and then see that they don't actually wear them during the games. Having everyone wear their own uniform has never looked right to me
I prefer them to have their own uniforms fwiw. Also, just to prove i don’t hate all new uniform things, I actually like the allstar hats and assume I will like the unis too.
Yeah I really don’t get criticizing topper at this juncture. Who the heck is he supposed to put in? I do blame the front office for not doing a single thing with the outfield in the offseason though.
Yeah I agree, he was meant to at least be involved in the OF. At the time I thought it was a fine move as far as adding a utility guy who could do some OF work, but even if he was performing well he wouldn’t be what I had in mind, or what they should have had in mind imo.
Interesting that Marchan is in the Lineup tonight. If i recall correctly Stubbs caught Walker’s last start. A breakup in the routine could point to Some Marchan over Stubbs decisions from Topper going forward.
Gelb just tweeted this
> Righties have crushed Jordan Montgomery so far this season, so Phillies have Sosa, Merrifield, Pache and Marchán all in there tonight.
But I’m going to be pissed bc the sub said it’s a bad lineup (note I offer no support for Whit and insist we need a RHB badly)
Edit: holy shit righties have a .924 ops against him lmao that’s Bryce Harper performance
agaisnt lefties it isn't that bad.
Nick ops+ 114 vs lefties
Pache ops+ 98
sosa ops+ 208
whitt's isn't good at 77 but he has hit all 3 of his home runs off lefties.
marchan who knows.
Gotta imagine Stott’s sitting a game because he’s been in a slight rut, Marsh is out due to the lefty, and Dahl is out because of the platoon / he’s been generally ineffective recently. Kody’s still on IL, JT is recovering from surgery and Rojas is demoted. I guess they’re trying Marchán with Walker instead of Stubbs. I think that covers all the position players we’ve had this season, except for the dearly departed Weston Wilson
Honestly I think I just misread a tweet and thought Monty was a righty so I guess it’s fine. I really do not want to see that dogwater bum Whit Merrifield play for us in any situation tho.
for bringing unopened water bottles into cbp- do they have to be in a clear plastic bag or can you just carry them? also bringing some wawa and not sure it will all fit in a gallon bag
Well, Marsh said Pache is a member of Stay Loose and Sexy so I take that to mean he is involved with the vibes. But I will also load him into the cannon to be fired into the sun for a good bat.
Hey guys. I’m a potential newbie from the UK. Just wondering if someone could give me a run down on the state of the prospect pool and the potential projection of the team over the next 2/3 years?
Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/1dlg444).
In 13 postseason starts for the Phillies, Cole Hamels was: 7-4 with a 3.09 ERA 81.2 IP 77K .218 opponent's batting average
Murph interviewing Joe Blanton in the WIP pre-game right now.
Hamels is getting interviewed indoors, in a suit, and is still sweating. Someone better have cold water on standby when he takes the field lol.
And he's still sexy as hell!
He’s actually just really nervous to not mess up his speech with /u/Deckard_Macready in attendance
He had nothing to be worried about. Perfect speech. 10/10
Rumor has it he lurks here so he will likely see your high praise
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I know what I'm about to say is sacrilege but goddamn why would you tailgate in this weather.
Dude fucking credit to the Founding Fathers for being in Independence Hall in suits this fucking weather. Jesus it’s hot as balls in the stadium
I had this sort of epiphany today when having a conversation about how awful WIP and most of the Philly sports media has become, especially how they talk about the Phillies. This will always be a football-first town so a lot of the personalities that they hire need to be more familiar with football than any other sport. And for a lot of these guys that's where their expertise ends. But they still have to talk about other sports, so when they do it, they try to analyze baseball and the Phillies like they would the Eagles. That's why you have guys freaking out over a couple losses or a small cold streak. In football, a couple losses strung together can tank your season. It's not like that in baseball at all. Same way they analyze young players who might be struggling. In football, if a guy doesn't start to show stuff in year one or two, he can quickly become a bust. But baseball players often take time to get their footing in the league and sometimes they might struggle and go down to AAA and then come back up. There are very few people who know enough about baseball to properly talk about and analyze it...pair that with the emergence of hot take artists throughout sports media and I think that's a big part of why WIP, The Fanatic and all these clowns have devolved into what they are today.
Anybody know why Marsh isn’t starting??
New here?
Lefty. He’s ass against lefties
He decided to backpack across the country instead
He quit baseball to pursue his true dream of becoming a broadway star
odd I heard it was bull riding and Riverdance in the offseason
So. I occasionally share the fun NJDOT messages. Today there’s a new billboard on coming off the Walt Whitman bridge into the city. It’s an ice cream bar “Lick me til ice cream”
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4th hitter currently 8th in BA and 20th in OPS in MLB
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Thanks Nostradumass
No Rojas in the iron pigs game today
Let's Go!! https://preview.redd.it/xgy7gi3oxz7d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6ee3dfe2f0d61032aaab2e56675f7f1738de209
Have a great time bruv
Oh man apple? This sucks
Last min: anyone want two tickets for tonight’s game HOF club? Only got them to come to cole’s retirement ceremony and got stranded on the BSR and will now have to drive and miss it.
I was there early enough to make it on time, but God was the BSL a fiasco
What times the Cole stuff?
625
Can Taijuan Walker pitch a good game?
Yes. Until the 4th.
unlikely
It’s hot as balls at this game. Hope Cole didn’t wear a suit.
dbacks fans are in for a treat. Kruk and tmac in the booth tonight for Apple TV.. and some other guy from Colorado apparently lol 😂😂 I don’t wanna see tmac be unbiased ugh
TMac (if still with CBS) should go to Nashville again to call the UD Vanderbilt game and bring Kruk for the antics though he might not translate as well to CFB
Hahahaha I’d love to find out how it translates
Kruk: “Tom, I think there’s more UD people than Vandy people here” TMac: “don’t worry John, I’m sure them and the rest of the SEC are already aware.” Kruk: “Also I counted at least 4 people faceplant on those scooters on Broadway”
Is there a way to rewatch the Apple TV broadcast?
Why are we playing with no left or center fielder. I was upset about missing the game till I saw the lineup.
Bet the people who downvoted trash Merryfield and Pache on here. I guess they all changed their minds.
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Gates open at 5:35, they tell you to be in your seats at 6:25, what the fuck? I’m standing out here and the line is a mile long. 50 minutes to get situated, food, merch, this is a joke.
The gameday operations at CBP are a joke now, and it’s only compounded by the team being good again bringing back the clueless fairweather fans.
Should only righteous, knowledgeable, hardcore fans like yourself be allowed to go to a game?
More traffic plus worse operations leads to a significantly worse experience. I’m obviously happy to have more fans, but the team has to make the operations better to be able to support fans being back like they were 15 years ago. My complaint is about the team, not the fans.
Oh. Your insulting the very fans that you'd obviously be happy to have confused me.
I mean, fairweather fans do annoy me when they act like they’re not, yeah. Especially the people that doom constantly about every game like it’s a football game. I get it though, baseball is a slog compared to other sports and not many people are going to want to tune in to watch a 70 win team.
Once gates open the line usually moves pretty fast to get in. Unless people start having problems getting themselves into the stadium.
The phillies need to allow 90 minutes from when the gates open to game time. Getting some food and hitting the bathroom takes time
I thought it was opening earlier? I’m about to leave now for CBP. Hopefully lines will clear out a little so I can make it in time
My train on the BSR broke down and we barely left fern rock. Only got tickets to see the retirement ceremony and at this rate, we aren’t making it :(
That is unfortunate. If you have to they will be streaming the ceremony
So much for 30 min early gates. lol https://preview.redd.it/4omcqwvgpz7d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffeb146418d868bfb6c7a77f58c0103bd8027402
Gates open at 5:35
Yah I’m aware. Was hoping with events at 620 they’d open early lol
Bryce repping the Vols who play for the NCAA championship this weekend. I’m not a fan and their coach seems like an arrogant dick but I suppose I must follow Bryce
So Rob sits stott and marsh because they can’t hit lefties , so they never play lefties , so they can’t improve. You aren’t sitting them come playoff time so why aren’t you getting them at bats now? Makes no sense
I used to say the same stuff, but at a certain point there’s no way to justify playing marsh against lefties. He’s absolutely abysmal against them. As u/nintenjew has pointed out, he is getting practice against lefties *in practice* plus he does start against some lefties who the analytics say he should be ok against, and even then he’s not good. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a little more action than he does against lefties, but I also can’t justify calling for Rojas’s head cause he can’t hit as I’ve been all season (and I know you have been too) and then saying marsh should play against lefties when marsh against lefties is worse than Rojas in general. As far as Stott, i think they’re just choosing their spots to keep sosa in the lineup.
> you aren’t sitting them come playoff time Well, Marsh actually did sit against lefties in the 2023 playoffs. Both games against the Marlins, and NLDS G2 against Fried.
And we lost the playoffs o
The whole thing? Because Marsh sat three games!
wow just looked at phillies tix for the first time in awhile, brutal. was thinking about dropping 100 on two tix but that dont even get standing room right now
This is probably the hottest ticket of the regular season other than opening day fwiw
its pretty bad even weeks out
I figured you were looking at tonight. But yeah I hear ya, the one negative to their success is that ticket prices and availability go insane.
It’s insane
Will Hamels retirement ceremony air on Apple TV? The app says coverage starts at 6:30
The ceremony starts at 6:25. The Phillies will be streaming on their Social Media pages. It will also be on NBCSP.
Thank you!
Will hamels?
How many?
Ohh you’re saying will Hamels as in will the word not the name
yeah haha
*will the hamels
Or Hamels'..
Please make sure you’re staying hydrated and taking care of yourself and those close to you in this heat wave. Heat stroke is no joke. Symptoms to watch out for: headaches, dizziness, confusion, and posting threads to r/phillies calling the team to sign Trevor Bauer.
Also calling to bring back Joe Girardi, he can stay on Marquee
Dehydration is a myth! I haven’t had a drop of water all day and I’m completely fine! Completely unrelated but since we need outfield help what do you think about bringing Nick Williams back?
"I don't need it." -- SpongeBob Squarepants
Completely unrelated, but please take Septa to and from the game tonight instead of driving.
Meh. Feels like a good night to run.
I subscribed to an Apple TV free trial so I can watch Walker throw camp sandwiches.
What is going on with these Mets??
they must build up their fans hopes if they want to inflict any furthering suffering
Peak lolmets vibes. 2022 was especially funny
Always good to see Sarge. Good things happen!
Sarge singing take me out to the ballgame in a cubs jersey TF?
I’ll take all the Sarge I can get
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You think we are witty?
Joc Pederson keeps showing up like a recurring social disease
11-26 off Taijuan is mental
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Walker is a fine fifth starter. Most fifth starters are bad, I don’t think it’s accurate to call him a “weakness”
Today is likely the last day the Yankees will be in first place if they lose Thats gotta really get to ya man
real. the yankees aren't the big bad bullies anymore, just a punching bag in the playoffs for the red sox, rays, Astros, and soon the orioles
There is certainly one weakness of this sub on display.
This lineup is awful! Bring back our hurt catcher, our .400 OPS vs lefties outfielder, our optioned CF, and obviously no days off for stott! And WHY do we not have a 5th cy young candidate on our roster??? Surely Walker is the worst 5th starter in the league, right??? /s
…I know the Cubs are on a slide however this is ridiculous
I guess Grimace is back??
Lineup looks great. I would make no changes.
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Who was the ahole on the dBacks who planted the flag in our field?
Alek Thomas. He has been on the IL since the first serries of the season. So it wont be playing
Alex something? I think he’s hurt
Brandon Nimmo Bottles his farts and saves them for later
I had a friend who did that once as a kid. He was a Yankees fan.
Why is it that so many people are against the idea of the allstar team having their own uniform.
I have no idea who they are without their uniforms. Some normal guy with a scruffy beard at first base? Could be anyone. With a Cardinals uniform? Oh, it's Paul Goldschmidt. As a platypus, I think you'd be well aware of this problem. I also think it's a pride thing to see your own team represented and see how many of each team makes the allstar game
They should go back to these! https://x.com/super70ssports/status/1099839210851311616?s=46&t=OwWxn4StVQcItEJYgF1WOA
I always used to get sad when I'd see the snazzy all-star uniforms and then see that they don't actually wear them during the games. Having everyone wear their own uniform has never looked right to me
I prefer them to have their own uniforms fwiw. Also, just to prove i don’t hate all new uniform things, I actually like the allstar hats and assume I will like the unis too.
France with the red pinstripes on the white jersey, kinda looking like us out there
Phrance
The more this sub complains about the line up the more I believe in it.
Topper should simply invent players to insert into the lineup
Hey. Bryce Ball is a real person and he's doing decent in Reading.
Chris Christianson, YOU are a Philadelphia Phillie
Yeah I really don’t get criticizing topper at this juncture. Who the heck is he supposed to put in? I do blame the front office for not doing a single thing with the outfield in the offseason though.
I think Merrifield was supposed to be the outfield help. Unfortunately that has not worked out as planned.
Yeah I agree, he was meant to at least be involved in the OF. At the time I thought it was a fine move as far as adding a utility guy who could do some OF work, but even if he was performing well he wouldn’t be what I had in mind, or what they should have had in mind imo.
But they did! And he in left field tonight with his sub .600 ops!
Ha fair enough I guess Whiz Whit! Never forget!
Batting 6th for the Philadelphia Phillies tonight- The Babadook
Interesting that Marchan is in the Lineup tonight. If i recall correctly Stubbs caught Walker’s last start. A breakup in the routine could point to Some Marchan over Stubbs decisions from Topper going forward.
$500 to the man who brings me the head of Grimace
Sosa and Marchán in the line-up. Nice.
Must be Blowout season. Mets out in chicago playin’ football today.
Our turn tonight
You would fuckin hope so
Cristian Pache is hitting his first home run of the season tonight.
You spelled cycle wrong.
This image is now: Merrifield, Sosa, Harper, Pache, Schwarber lol [https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/ufqls5/oops\_all\_dingers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/ufqls5/oops_all_dingers/)
Gelb just tweeted this > Righties have crushed Jordan Montgomery so far this season, so Phillies have Sosa, Merrifield, Pache and Marchán all in there tonight. But I’m going to be pissed bc the sub said it’s a bad lineup (note I offer no support for Whit and insist we need a RHB badly) Edit: holy shit righties have a .924 ops against him lmao that’s Bryce Harper performance
Lefties have a .947 OPS against Walker. Bet the over fellas
Talk about killing my vibe
Joc gonna hit one 500 feet
Even seeing that it's still a brutal lineup. After Bohm the only one who can hit is Sosa.
agaisnt lefties it isn't that bad. Nick ops+ 114 vs lefties Pache ops+ 98 sosa ops+ 208 whitt's isn't good at 77 but he has hit all 3 of his home runs off lefties. marchan who knows.
Marchan: he’s not Stubbs
Just curious what your suggestion would be
I mean, get better players LOL but that ship has passed. Hopefully their numbers against lefties hold
Well first we have to include Marsh and his 11 wRC+ against lefties.
I saw his .391 ops and thought it was his obp
They had all day to bring Scott Kingery here.
2024 World Series MVP Scott KINGERY?
The very one!
I’m usually not one to shit on Rob but this lineup is criminal
To me it’s more of a shit on the front office situation for letting the OF/bench be like this. What is Rob supposed to do?
Gotta imagine Stott’s sitting a game because he’s been in a slight rut, Marsh is out due to the lefty, and Dahl is out because of the platoon / he’s been generally ineffective recently. Kody’s still on IL, JT is recovering from surgery and Rojas is demoted. I guess they’re trying Marchán with Walker instead of Stubbs. I think that covers all the position players we’ve had this season, except for the dearly departed Weston Wilson
Honestly I think I just misread a tweet and thought Monty was a righty so I guess it’s fine. I really do not want to see that dogwater bum Whit Merrifield play for us in any situation tho.
He’s not my favorite either but maybe he’ll reward us while our faith in him is at its lowest
crimes committed in offseason ... signing Whit and not signing an OF. Warrant issued
Come on Pache get some hits and send Whit packing. we don't need him around anyhow 🎶🎵
for bringing unopened water bottles into cbp- do they have to be in a clear plastic bag or can you just carry them? also bringing some wawa and not sure it will all fit in a gallon bag
You can just carry ‘em.
great, ty!
Checking to see where Shota went in the era leaders I noticed that Cris is 14th in MLB in era Pretty cool man
Are we wearing the City Connects on Cole Hamels nights? That's just wrong
Should be the creams for cole
Yankees v braves. I feel like i win either way
Stotter day off? He could use it lol 😆
Hey yo, Cubbies! Kinda want the Mets to lose not be up 6-1 on you in the 3rd. Maybe I should pick up some Kelce beer
No rational fan can look at this lineup and say we don't need to add a hitter just because "the vibes will be ruined."
Whit is decidedly not here for vibes. In fact hes ruining Mr Brightside for an entire generation in the city of Philadelphia.
are Pache or Whit even contributing to the vibes
Pache is consistently mentioned as the funniest guy on the team
Ok so he’s covered, what is Whit bringing to the table
Mr. Brightside?
Well, Marsh said Pache is a member of Stay Loose and Sexy so I take that to mean he is involved with the vibes. But I will also load him into the cannon to be fired into the sun for a good bat.
Good point. Anybody know where we can find Vibes Above Replacement?
pretty sure I saw someone predict this exact lineup earlier lolol
That bottom of the lineup… staying optimistic… that’s all I’ll say
This lineup is vomit worthy
You must want Marsh and his .391 ops vs lefties
*sigh* we really need a sticky of the FAQs for Appletv games. How many times we gonna see “is this only on Apple today?!? Back in my day….”
Lordy, that's a brutal bottom of the lineup offensively
An offensive offense.
Marchan the best hitter there at the moment
Walker and Merrifield. Wave the white flag
Yea Ranger is clear of Imanaga
Grimace works in mysterious ways
Mets torching Imanaga ☹️
That flair and the emoji used seem contradictory.
Does not compute Edit: Oh i get it now
Hey guys. I’m a potential newbie from the UK. Just wondering if someone could give me a run down on the state of the prospect pool and the potential projection of the team over the next 2/3 years?
When are we gonna bring Marte up? Is he still injured because he started rehab a long time ago and pitched well in an albeit small sample size
Call me confused but why are they giving out a 2009 NLCS ring to honor Hamels when he was the MVP of the 2008 WS?
We Gave out 2008 rings when Rollins retired
I actually went to that game and got one, such a great giveaway. That said, there's no reason they can't give out another one from the WS tonight.
https://x.com/MLBPipeline/status/1804211087048609856