I had the pleasure of performing the Piano II reduction part last year in a couple performances with a colleague who was preparing the solo for a symphony concert. Incredible piece and I WISH I was good enough to play the solo part.
Same here. I just can't fathom how one could learn the huge repertoire of skills necessary to play this piece as beautiful as it is, but tips appreciated!
there’s just so much in it, which makes it all the more rewarding to learn. after learning it, one thing that’s just so important is the phrasing and voicing. it may have taken me a year to learn, but that journey along the way made it all the more memorable
> there’s just so much in it, which makes it all the more rewarding to learn
True!
> it may have taken me a year to learn, but that journey along the way made it all the more memorable
What's a good strategy for effective learning for this piece? Are there good lessons, skills breakdowns, etc. that I could watch and/or read?
i’d say that each passage has a core technique/skill that you need to focus on. (i.e. the climax has lots of big chords with difficult voicing and balance). identify what each is in each section and think about how to best practice it.
it’s a huge piece. i’d work on treating each section as its own little piece rather than a huge piece. then later you can focus on how you want to convey the overall picture.
i wish i could point you to good resources, but i mostly worked on this with my teacher and a lot of it is kinda hard to put into words. if you’re curious how i play it, it should be the only post in my profile lol. feel free to ask me any questions about how i got certain sections to sound
> i’d say that each passage has a core technique/skill that you need to focus on. (i.e. the climax has lots of big chords with difficult voicing and balance). identify what each is in each section and think about how to best practice it.
Sounds good. I hope I can find good treatises (whether that's YouTube videos, readings, or whatever) that give this analysis.
> treating each section as its own little piece
Good point.
> i mostly worked on this with my teacher and a lot of it is kinda hard to put into words
That's OK, even what you shared is helpful/insightful. :)
> the only post in my profile
Just watched it. Great work! If I could do half of that I'd die a happy person haha.
> feel free to ask me any questions about how i got certain sections to sound
Thanks so much!
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I learned Scriabin 2 a few years ago. It is well worth the time invested in it. The first movement is absolutely beautiful and not too technically difficult. I could never play the second movement up to Richter speed, but it sounded decent. I never performed it for that reason.
Ah I see. It's the first movement that I really love, and now that you bring it up, Richter does have my favorite interpretation of this piece. Most of the scriabin I listen to tends to be Richter (or Sofronitsky of course).
Perhaps it'll be a good fall and winter project.
Richter is my favorite, too, and for me he sets the standard for the piece. I do like Trifinov's live recording in Carnegie Hall. It's worth a listen. Good luck with the piece! It is a great work.
I’ve learnt Liebesleid recently. Took me more than a year, hardest piece I’ve ever played. I recommend getting a good teacher - ideally masters degree equivalent or above to help with the technical difficulties.
You’re on track! Before Liebsleid, I’ve played some Chopin and Debussy Nocturnes. Liebsleid is definitely doable for you in a few years. Just need patience and professional guidance to solve the technical challenges like playing the fast passages and bridge the chord jumps comfortably.
Awesome! I’ve played doctor gradus ad parnassum by debussy before and it was super fun so I’ll probably find something else by him to play as well. Any specific recommendations?
I haven’t played much Debussy except for Clair de lune and his Nocturne. But there are many lovely pieces like Valse Romantique and reverie. According to my piano professor, with Debussy it’s especially important to achieve a good quality and clarity of sound. But I don’t really have enough time and patience to perfect haha.
Too many to choose, but I really wanna learn the piano version of Four Seasons by Vivaldi. It’s a goal of mine to be able to play all four in one go, but I haven’t even gotten to play one yet
I just played part of it at a recital the other day. Very very nice piece. Tbh I messed up bad. Idk everything just left my brain and all of a sudden I was lost.
Something I couldn't learn myself easily enough. In the Cage maybe, I can learn it for sure but the melody line with the keyboard backing at the same time is weird constantly shifting rhythms I dno how long it would take to get every single line.
Or like, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway because of that batshit tier intro, that I can ofc do a line of but when it starts moving just LOL!
Right now it'd be the piano line from the cover of Wicked Game from Lucifer but that's because I'm a total beginner and it will probably take me a few years to get to that stage!
I'm a flautist who's attempting to learn piano and I am finding reading the whole grand staff and playing multiple notes simultaneously to be...less then intuitive. 😂
Rhapsody in blue. Loved it from the moment I saw fantasia 2000 and always wanted to play it, but I have small hands and wrists problems so I don't even have the courage to try to learn.
I'd love to say a concerto, but that's not quite the same without the orchestra, so let me go with Beethoven sonata no. 31. It's not technically so difficult, but man is it hard to nail the interpretation!
Gaspard de la nuit, its long, beautiful and insanely impressive, hell, i could make a lot of my money simply playing on this on concerts. One of the best picks imaginable.
Sorabji Opus Clavicembalisticum. 4.5 hours of incredibly difficult music under my fingers that's gotta improve my technique a lot.
I've sight read a few sections of OC as well and it's actually harmonically and pianistically really exciting. It's a piece I feel would have a lot of replay value.
Prokofiev's Sonata No. 7, 3rd movement 'Precipitato'--one of the strangest pieces I have ever played and one of the most difficult. Even Gould struggles with the last section of it. Just so bizarre, but maybe that's why I love it so much. 😍
Prokofiev's second concerto
You can have that one. I’ll take the third. <3
Agreed. It’s not my favorite piano concerto, but it is the most epic in my opinion.
I had the pleasure of performing the Piano II reduction part last year in a couple performances with a colleague who was preparing the solo for a symphony concert. Incredible piece and I WISH I was good enough to play the solo part.
Chopin ballad no 1 in G minor
Same here. I just can't fathom how one could learn the huge repertoire of skills necessary to play this piece as beautiful as it is, but tips appreciated!
there’s just so much in it, which makes it all the more rewarding to learn. after learning it, one thing that’s just so important is the phrasing and voicing. it may have taken me a year to learn, but that journey along the way made it all the more memorable
> there’s just so much in it, which makes it all the more rewarding to learn True! > it may have taken me a year to learn, but that journey along the way made it all the more memorable What's a good strategy for effective learning for this piece? Are there good lessons, skills breakdowns, etc. that I could watch and/or read?
i’d say that each passage has a core technique/skill that you need to focus on. (i.e. the climax has lots of big chords with difficult voicing and balance). identify what each is in each section and think about how to best practice it. it’s a huge piece. i’d work on treating each section as its own little piece rather than a huge piece. then later you can focus on how you want to convey the overall picture. i wish i could point you to good resources, but i mostly worked on this with my teacher and a lot of it is kinda hard to put into words. if you’re curious how i play it, it should be the only post in my profile lol. feel free to ask me any questions about how i got certain sections to sound
> i’d say that each passage has a core technique/skill that you need to focus on. (i.e. the climax has lots of big chords with difficult voicing and balance). identify what each is in each section and think about how to best practice it. Sounds good. I hope I can find good treatises (whether that's YouTube videos, readings, or whatever) that give this analysis. > treating each section as its own little piece Good point. > i mostly worked on this with my teacher and a lot of it is kinda hard to put into words That's OK, even what you shared is helpful/insightful. :) > the only post in my profile Just watched it. Great work! If I could do half of that I'd die a happy person haha. > feel free to ask me any questions about how i got certain sections to sound Thanks so much!
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Liszt sonata
Which one?
When someone says liszt Sonata they usually Mean B minor
There is only one…..
Dante sonata
Ah mb then. Meant the B minor sonata
Rach 3
Such an easy choice, I would be having so much fun for yearsss
Will my hands also grow in this scenario?
I will die a happy and fulfilled man if I ever get to the point where I can play this.
Rach 2, i started playing the piano to someday play that piece
Add playing with an orchestra 😭
Either the Liszt Sonata or Chopin’s opus 25 set
Scriabin 2 and 5, and op 28. 2 is actually doable if I work at it. The others? Really, really, really difficult.
I learned Scriabin 2 a few years ago. It is well worth the time invested in it. The first movement is absolutely beautiful and not too technically difficult. I could never play the second movement up to Richter speed, but it sounded decent. I never performed it for that reason.
Ah I see. It's the first movement that I really love, and now that you bring it up, Richter does have my favorite interpretation of this piece. Most of the scriabin I listen to tends to be Richter (or Sofronitsky of course). Perhaps it'll be a good fall and winter project.
Richter is my favorite, too, and for me he sets the standard for the piece. I do like Trifinov's live recording in Carnegie Hall. It's worth a listen. Good luck with the piece! It is a great work.
The Fantasy is around the same level as the second sonata.
The fantasy is beautiful. But I heard it's way easier than the fifth sonata. It's closer to the second in difficulty.
Liebesleid rach arrangement yes I’m a big your lie in april nerd😔😔🙏🏼
Upvote for the Liebesleid and YLIA mention (I’m gonna learn it one day)
🔥🔥🔥💪
This is my choice too !!!
Either that or chopin etude 10 n3 it’s my fav
Was instantly my choice too. I wanna watch that show again
I try to watch it every april but I forgot this year
I’ve learnt Liebesleid recently. Took me more than a year, hardest piece I’ve ever played. I recommend getting a good teacher - ideally masters degree equivalent or above to help with the technical difficulties.
I mean I’m 14, hardest piece I’ve played so far was like chopin minute waltz so I’ve still got a long way to go but I’m looking forward to it!
You’re on track! Before Liebsleid, I’ve played some Chopin and Debussy Nocturnes. Liebsleid is definitely doable for you in a few years. Just need patience and professional guidance to solve the technical challenges like playing the fast passages and bridge the chord jumps comfortably.
Awesome! I’ve played doctor gradus ad parnassum by debussy before and it was super fun so I’ll probably find something else by him to play as well. Any specific recommendations?
I haven’t played much Debussy except for Clair de lune and his Nocturne. But there are many lovely pieces like Valse Romantique and reverie. According to my piano professor, with Debussy it’s especially important to achieve a good quality and clarity of sound. But I don’t really have enough time and patience to perfect haha.
I’m try to give him more of a listen!
I consider Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 to be the most gangster piano piece in existence.
It's the original bass drop
Same!!
This
beethoven's moonlight sonata third movement.
Tbh it is a pretty fun piece to go through the learning process of, I recommend it
I would have said this same thing.
Word
Gaspard de la Nuit by Ravel
Real king shit right here
Rhapsody in Blue. I got maybe 75% of the way there back in college, but I never finished learning it. Maybe I should now.
Moszkowski's concerto.
Hammerklavier
La Campanella
Art Tatum’s arrangement of Tea for Two
The piano solo arrangement of Rach 2. I'm about 50 bars into the first movement now and it's slow going haha. This is going to take years
Gaspard de la nuit: Ondine
Intermezzo in A Major by Brahms. It may be the most beautiful piano piece ever written.
Bach Goldberg Variations
90% of these answers were predictable. 🤣🤣🤣
This…
Chopin Barcarolle
Ballade 3 Chopin
Liszt — Chasse Neige
Did somebody say One Piece?
Rach 2
Chopin's Fantaisie Impromptu
Too many to choose, but I really wanna learn the piano version of Four Seasons by Vivaldi. It’s a goal of mine to be able to play all four in one go, but I haven’t even gotten to play one yet
Blue bird from naruto animenz arrangement
I just played part of it at a recital the other day. Very very nice piece. Tbh I messed up bad. Idk everything just left my brain and all of a sudden I was lost.
It would be a piece with a lot of technique I don't actually have. I'm going with the Liszt Grand Gallop
Un Sospiro - Liszt. One of the most beautiful compositions ever.
Mazeppa -Liszt
Hungarian rhapsody ii
Something I couldn't learn myself easily enough. In the Cage maybe, I can learn it for sure but the melody line with the keyboard backing at the same time is weird constantly shifting rhythms I dno how long it would take to get every single line. Or like, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway because of that batshit tier intro, that I can ofc do a line of but when it starts moving just LOL!
gymnopedie
Rach 2 or 3.
Right now it'd be the piano line from the cover of Wicked Game from Lucifer but that's because I'm a total beginner and it will probably take me a few years to get to that stage! I'm a flautist who's attempting to learn piano and I am finding reading the whole grand staff and playing multiple notes simultaneously to be...less then intuitive. 😂
Probably the Mephisto waltz. It takes ages to learn isn't relevant for any pupils in any of the grades, but it is a fantastic party piece.
I'd just go for Messiaen's Vingt Regards probably
Scriabin sonata 5, or Chopin Variations on “Là ci darem la mano”, op. 2
2 arabesques n1
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Rachmaninoff/Volodos - Andante from Cello Sonata + Kapustin Concert Etudes + Schumann Symphonic Etudes
Probably Kapustin's sonata 2.
May seem a bit basic but nocturne no.1 in Fm I’ve been working on it for a while and I’m kind of stuck with my progress
Contrapunctus 4 or 8.
George Crumb - Makrokosmos
Patrik pietschmanns arrangement of "can you hear the music?"
Prokofiev's third sonata
Liszt etudes
Beethoven sonata Op.90 No.27
Debussy jardins sous La pluie
One Piece?
One Piece, you say?
One Piece, you say?
One Piece, you say?
One Piece, you say?
Debussy's Arabesque
Für Elise or merry-go-round of life 😮💨
Rhapsody in blue. Loved it from the moment I saw fantasia 2000 and always wanted to play it, but I have small hands and wrists problems so I don't even have the courage to try to learn.
Animenz my dearest or the entirety of gaspard de la nuit
Liebestraum or Chopin ballade no 1
Struggle for pleasure - Wim Mertens
I'd love to say a concerto, but that's not quite the same without the orchestra, so let me go with Beethoven sonata no. 31. It's not technically so difficult, but man is it hard to nail the interpretation!
Alkan scherzo focoso
Gaspard de la nuit, its long, beautiful and insanely impressive, hell, i could make a lot of my money simply playing on this on concerts. One of the best picks imaginable.
Sciarrino Sonata No. 2
Jingle bells
Chopin Godowsky
Probably barber piano concerto!
Rach 2
Scarlatti K380 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKmbaIe6JqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKmbaIe6JqY)
Wanderer Fantasy
Shostakovich Waltz n.2, the hardest arrangement you can find with multiple voices
Caribe from Michel Camilo, with my own improvisations.
cmon it has to be liebestraum no 3 it is just too perfect
Anything by Miles Davis. I can’t play jazz at all but would like to be able to.
the smile of a child
Bach BWV1079 Ricercar à 6
Sorabji Opus Clavicembalisticum. 4.5 hours of incredibly difficult music under my fingers that's gotta improve my technique a lot. I've sight read a few sections of OC as well and it's actually harmonically and pianistically really exciting. It's a piece I feel would have a lot of replay value.
Scarlatti sonata
Life on Mars by, David Bowie. Elegant. Beautiful. Complete.
Alkan "symphony for solo piano" etude
The ones I am currently trying to learn ;) hahah
Brandenburg 3/4, arr August Stradal this thing is borderline playable by a human, like wtf was Stradal thinking
Prokofiev's Sonata No. 7, 3rd movement 'Precipitato'--one of the strangest pieces I have ever played and one of the most difficult. Even Gould struggles with the last section of it. Just so bizarre, but maybe that's why I love it so much. 😍
Definitely Gaspard de la nuit.
Winter wind
Christina Augilera - Beautiful
Rachmaninoff's Third Concerto
Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2–I’d be Bugs Bunny!!
Feinberg 3
Any one of Chopin’s four ballades. Or all four if I dare dream.
Liszt’s Un sospiro
Josef bulva's arrangement of Hungarian Rhapsodie 2
I would love to play Chopin’s Polonaises (yes, all of them) I love them all. Really anything by Chopin would be my go to
Chopins fantasie impromptu
Ballade no. 2 by Chopin
Rach 3
The Seasons, Op. 37 June-Barcarole
Mm hard to choose but probably Rach 2 Ballade No. 4 Or Liszt Spanish Fantasy S.253
liebestraum no 3 by liszt!!
Chopin scherzo no.1 😊
ravel miroirs suite
Cage — 4’33
Chopin Ballade Nr.4
'Rage over a lost penny' Op. 129 Rondo - Beethoven
Clare de lune
rush E 💀
Claire de lune
Aria math from the minecarft soundtrack. It's like, my favorite thing ever