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inzEEfromAUS

Might be the worst performance i have seen from the reds in the last 14 years. Even my 11 month old has started a new game of dropping the ball after watching the last 3 games and thinking thats how the game is meant to be played.


foruandr

Reds are certified frauds


Stonesy123

Reds for woeful. Referee getting flack for the reds which were the right decisions, he should be getting flack for his one sided refereeing at the breakdown and him and the TMO completely missing a blatent shoulder charge on Lawson Creighton


fleakill

Was incredibly lenient on almost anything MP did. Tackle off ball, knock on, offside on knock on, name it. But we did get away with about 400 high tackles, so, you win some you lose some.


Maestro-Modesto

Too many comments to read so it's probably been said, but the ref made a mistake by not giving a straight red to tate. Because if that they were able to bring a player back when they shouldn't have. It meant a twenty minute red card instead of a thirty five minute one. So I'm glad that moana managed to pull through anyway.


scranson19981998

That was absolutely fucked


fleakill

Can sympathise with a player that feels the ref isn't protecting him from opposition actions (forearm to throat) but you're a professional rugby player, and giving retaliation that is worse than the initial act is never going to be let go and you should know better, you're the fucking captain. Learn from Darcy Swain on Jonny Hill.


lanson15

Brilliant from Moana! I wish they could find a proper home so they can build a decent following. Reds look a shadow of themselves from only a month ago


meohmyenjoyingthat

Anyone record the cards? I missed both


There_is_no_ham

Tate was a stupid swinging arm in a tackle as revenge for getting a face push fend, Fraser was a lazy shoulder in the chin when he should have lowered himself. Pretty dumb stuff from professionals


SagalaUso

Awesome. So happy with a win. Tbf almost gave up on the season. Glad the boys proved me wrong. Seems like Whangarei at least has some people showing up for them so that's a bonus.


Dogboat1

They go great against 13.


Maestro-Modesto

I'm pretty sure it was never thirteen despite what was being shown on the tv screen


Dogboat1

You’re right. I didn’t account for the new 20 minute red card rule. That makes it much harder to be aggrieved. I’ll just hang my hat on the last forward pass 😀


kiwiborger

Match take time: -The game was pretty awful in the 1nst half, but as the minutes passed, the game became more exciting to sit through even if the quality of the rugby being played said otherwise. -Moana Pasifika were pretty decent in the first part, but they mostly had no answer to whatever the hell the Reds were doing in the 2nd half. They were lucky to have the other Havili to win the game for them. -The Reds, on the other hand, were baffling to say the least. They were nonexistent in the 1st half. By the 2nd half, they had improved quite a bit (I'm being generous here) but that didn't stop two Wallabies getting red carded for the same offense. If I was Schmidt, I would have steered clear of the Reds. -Tate... I much as I like you, what you did was some of the pettiest shit I've ever see someone do in a rugby pitch. -William Havili best Havili. -The referee was clearly a Moana supporter. Anyway, this is all I have for now. See you all in the next match, and cheers for now.


recyclingcentre

Love hearing the cheehoos ring out from the crowd haha


padraigus

Righto - reds fucked it themselves but... can I get a few more angles on that last offload? ...it looked pretty forward and no one seemed to even question it.


Maestro-Modesto

Might have been but was a poor ref decision not to give tate a full red, allowing someone to replace him after twenty


Dogboat1

Looked pretty forward but if they pulled that back there would have been a riot by the seven people in the crowd. Dire all round.


thwerpnerd

Reds deserve a big L there. Absolutely hopeless. Have really had our pants pulled down starting with that loss to the Force. Great physicality from MP tonight, better team on the field today.


DCI_Tom_Barnaby_

Reds crowning themselves as Champions in March is starting to look a little silly


Cleginator

Season isn’t over yet champ…


AlexanderTheGate

Forgive us for enjoying a little optimism, I've learned that joy and belief in your team are not appropriate feelings when you are an Australian Rugby supporter.


thecripplernz

tHe lEs kiSs ErA bEgInS!!!1!1!


fleakill

Just remember: no optimism allowed.


padraigus

I thought it looked silly then.


Ngata_Problem

Remember when we beat the Chiefs and took the Canes to extra time lol


recyclingcentre

Btw what has happened to the reds? Just completely shat the bed in the last month


Taey

Trying to be too cute, not doing the basics, way too many errors. Uru alone dropped the ball cold in their 22 4 or 5 times this game.


TGGNathan

Drua esque in their implosion (but they defended better)


simsnor

They really put the "Reds" in Reds


JXP111

Low on quality but it was entertaining. Reds threw it away with indiscipline. Really pleased for MP though.


TwoUp22

Lol. GG Moana, great they get a win at home. Reds need their less flashy, more winny team setup.


TGGNathan

The ref gave Moana a lot of leeway in this game but you can't blame Moana for the Reds' two best players making dumb decisions. I actually thought Kalani Thomas managed the game well and they performed better in the second half than the first, but having your two best players go off is pretty daunting to come back from


recyclingcentre

Havili is turning into a really quality first five. Good to see


Maestro-Modesto

He is quality. Did you see him play for Tonga in the World Cup? He was very good


recyclingcentre

Yup rated him at the RWC, thought he was up there with Tonga’s best players


meohmyenjoyingthat

What the hell happened to the reds man


Ribsi

only got ourselves to blame for that one. Well done Pasifika.


duckedsc2

Surely that last pass was forward ?


_dictatorish_

MP were clearly on the right side of the ref today, barely had anything called against them all game


ConscriptReports

nah reds don't deserve to win this one, poor flook I was pissed until I saw him drop in pain


Taey

Well deserved win for Moana, we played like fuckwits and don't deserve it.


kiwiborger

WILLY HAVILI BEST HAVILI


warcomet

BEST HAVILI SCORES!


luco_85

Flook shot by a sniper


Nickokimmorley

Playing with a dislocated shoulder for the last 10 minutes lol


luco_85

rough


warcomet

should have gone off after that injury earlier..looks like dislocation


New-Ad157

Lol, the ref is gifting Moana penalties


Maestro-Modesto

A couple of them yeah, and at the wrong time. But also gifted the reds fifteen minutes with an extra player. Tate should have been full redded rather than just the twenty minute red.


binzoma

lfg what a try


meohmyenjoyingthat

Well that was pretty good, I begrudgingly admit


JXP111

Thank fuck for that.


JackoFrisky

Nice boys


brodenbarrett

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY FUCK!


DeGrootWardlow

Finz Up


almightyBoB88

This dude should never ref another professional game


so-it-goes-and

At least neither of them tried to fight the crowd.


TGGNathan

William Havili has been pretty good this year. I never thought he'd be the better Havili but this year he's clearly been the form brother


warcomet

playing a fijian song again :D


New-Ad157

So the Reds down to 13 players now?


Taey

14. 1st red was 20 minute.


brucemainstream

Damn that penalty was tough. Side line ref could have maybe said something?


Taey

Its been said multiple times in this thread the reds tackling height today has been borderline dangerous. Enjoy ur red mate.


brodenbarrett

Both teams trying to lose. This neutral loves it.


meohmyenjoyingthat

Who of 'tahs 'saders will hold my beer this?


warcomet

reds doing a drua with 2 redcards today lol


TGGNathan

It's sorta messed up that McReight and Tater have the same punishment considering one's a technique mistake and the other is blatant thuggery but eh. The field review system works more often than it doesnt.


Cammo_23

Bad technique and thuggery can cause equal damage though? Didn't see the Tate one, but anyone tackling like Mcreight did is asking to be sidelined


Ribsi

tayto and Wrighty have a wedding to go to next week or something?


GKDA

Stoppable Force (MP failing to score a single point with a man advantage for 30 minutes) vs Movable Object (the Reds first half + their second half discipline)


meohmyenjoyingthat

coughing baby vs coughing baby


stickyswitch92

So the Reds have two captains who both got reds.... Somes up the match pretty well


thetoadontheroad

Liam Wright is the other captain, he’s still on.


thwerpnerd

Liam Wright is the other captain


thwerpnerd

HIA for Havili? He seemed to be in quite some discomfort after that


warcomet

upgraded to red, should have been red from the start


RomanceintheFTthread

Bad hit but he is wrapping. Deserved red but doubt it’s too much of a suspension


kiwiborger

REDS PLAYERS. STOP. DOING. STUPID. SHIT.


JXP111

Red, yellow, who cares? They could get 10 red cards and Pasifika would still knock it on.


binzoma

great TLDR for the game


TGGNathan

Would be happy to be a Highlanders supporter atm


warcomet

moana now need a miracle to win this ....


TGGNathan

They have one


Morningst4r

Whoever is playing the Reds in the next couple of weeks will be really happy


APoolShark

Kiwi teams the next 3 weeks for the Reds 😂


TGGNathan

Clear yellow, maybe even a red because he's totally upright with no intent to wrap? Sorta like the Jordie Barrett tackle in so much as there wasnt much time to change his position but he's upright the whole time, so likely a red


warcomet

Easy Red for the Red


Morningst4r

The Reds best players just taking turns being grubs


New-Ad157

😭


brodenbarrett

Reds don't make it easy for themselves.


alexbouteiller

wait but why isn't that one a straight red on field? he's literally shoulder charged him square in the head? I'm feeling very old man yells at clouds right now


AwakenTheBacon_

Because straight red is only for serious foul play e.g. punch, headbutt, elbow, eye gouge. High tackles always start yellow for off field review


alexbouteiller

That's mental, I get for the 'borderline' yellow/reds but a shot like that should always be a full red


TwoUp22

They check for a bunch of factors then give the red. Its so the game doesn't stop and the TMO checking is done behind the scenes so the audience can watch rugby continue. Nothing really lost using this system and things gained from a thorough, non time impeded check.


almightyBoB88

Some times I fucking hate rugby


Ribsi

we can't do anything right without doing wrong at the same time. We are the true neutral of rugby.


ConscriptReports

that's a red has to be unfortunately


stickyswitch92

Might get left off being the second guy in (I'm thinking positively).


JXP111

Game over. Pasifika don't have another point in them. Hopeless in this second half.


kiwiborger

Finally, some good fucking rugby


exsnakecharmer

I reckon Jordie Petaia could be a really good player, he's improved a lot and has a good read on the game.


RomanceintheFTthread

He’s starting to get more consistent, easy to forget how young he is still


ConscriptReports

fuck his collarbone


brodenbarrett

I LOVE SUPER RUGBY.


ConscriptReports

the ceiling of this red team is so fucking high and yet they are often in the basement


RomanceintheFTthread

Much better coaching this season should help


TwoUp22

Spoicy


foybus

Hunter Paisami has impressed in the second half. Best player on the pitch


brodenbarrett

brilliant!


Ribsi

Where were these hands in the first half? Couldn't even breathe and run at the same time then.


KappaTheJappa

nah thats good stuff


ozwozzle

That's good cricket


JXP111

Pasifika have royally fucked this up.


GKDA

This game really is going to come down to who wants to lose less.


alexbouteiller

so they get an extra player back because that wasn't a straight red on the field? but also what was the justification for it not being a straight red, as he literally swung his arm into a player on the floor's head?


meohmyenjoyingthat

Probably need to tweak the rules so that the tmo can also give full reds


JustAliff

All bunker Reds (as in yellow by the ref, but red from the TMO) are 20 minutes. Straight reds that are given from the ref lasts the full 80


APoolShark

He’s asking why it wasn’t a straight red to begin with


Nickokimmorley

Fraser had been playing good at least


JustAliff

He's getting hoed from the ref. It's criminal the amount of jackals he's been denied


vegetation998

Out of curiousity, in a scenario like this where an essential role is given a card, they subbed on the second halfback. Which position typically comes off first if the coach has to choose?


warcomet

a wing or a flanker (usually 6)


Bangkok_Dave

Wing


vegetation998

Good to know, i never grew up with rugby and would've guessed centers


RomanceintheFTthread

Easier to defend in to out than vive versa


Bangkok_Dave

Generally a centre will be able to cover the responsibilities of a winger pretty well, and also be more adept at defending in the line. With a man off there will be a little more position fluidity, wingers are normally a bit more specialised bout their position. But it depends on the specific personnel on the field.


recyclingcentre

Would love to see Moana just meme their way into the finals through performances like this


Uso213

Side note is anyone watching on skysports? Sky sport 1 and 2 saying no satellite connection but sll the other channels working fine lol


warcomet

sky Uk shows the nz feed and its fine lol


Uso213

Maybe its a sign for me to watxh more League now 😂😂 its working fine haha


kiwiborger

How the hell is Joe Schmidt gonna fix this shit?


Taey

Not picking them is a good start.


warcomet

pick more brumbies?


Taey

I saw like 3 offences in that lineout and none were pinged haha. Jumping across, not straight, playing the jumpers arm.


stickyswitch92

Also was no way near straight lol


JustAliff

Fuck off Creighton


Ngata_Problem

Worse Brothers 5/8 in Red: Creighton or Dallan Murphy?


Bangkok_Dave

fuck the filth


Ngata_Problem

Bring back the Stingrays


warcomet

halfbacks getting red card, 2 weeks in a row..


TGGNathan

I picked the Reds, I'm rooting for Moana - but jesus the ref's giving so many breaks to MP


TwoUp22

So much good from reds cancelled out by a decent amount of stupid rugby. Why can't Aus teams (minus Brums) just play smart rugby 😭


GKDA

You can't convince me that Campbell (I think) didn't deliberately kick that straight at the AR lmao


Taey

Surely that gets pinged? Late


_dictatorish_

Isn't that at least a penalty?


brodenbarrett

Reds are fuckin it up.


Taey

Is that bloke really onside?


Ribsi

and now it's the linesman's turn to cop one.


thwerpnerd

Fuck me can we hold on to the ball. I'd like to see dropped ball inside oppositions 22 stats


TGGNathan

Do people not like Kalani Thomas? he was one of the best halfbacks playing in the NPC, I genuinely rate him. I'm jealous he's not a part of the NZ system


thwerpnerd

Definitely has the talent and great energy. Unfortunately he's come on a few times and failed to seal a game. Hasn't got very good game management in terms of when to play fast/slow off the back


Taey

Never seems to click for the Reds


Bangkok_Dave

He's never looked very good at this level. He's young and lots of coaches rate him, so I'll give him the enefit of the doubt. But yeah he's not shown a lot so far.


Taey

I always wonder how long a player who cant catch the ball and kills momentum 4+ times a game would last in an NZ team.


Bangkok_Dave

Haha I don't actually know who you're talking about


Doofus_McFriendly

Ofa's made a decent career out of those stats.


luco_85

Is constant knock ons a game plan?


JXP111

Pasifika don't look capable of scoring another try, even with a man advantage. This will go to the wire.


APoolShark

So the Reds have been really shit ever since JOC called for a Reds heavy Wallabies team


meohmyenjoyingthat

Ptsd from Eddie, none of them want selected


Bangkok_Dave

Kiss out


Bangkok_Dave

Jock's been good in the 2nd half so far.


Ribsi

At least this is still better than the first half


TwoUp22

Paisami 🤝 not being able to hold the ball.


Taey

Classic Paisami


Ngata_Problem

GG Moana, Creighton on


thwerpnerd

Uh oh Creighton has arrived


Taey

Offside


APoolShark

Just tuned in. Who got a red card and why?


Taey

Tate, swinging arm to head.


fleakill

tato the potato


TwoUp22

Tate. Swinging arm to a players head in cleanout. Real silly stuff.


_dictatorish_

Is that not clearly offside? Lmao Went straight to the MP player


fleakill

I'm 99% sure that's a penalty about half the time. I guess the coin flipped the other way.


thwerpnerd

Surely that was an early tackle on Seru Uru


BlooBloo82

Flook looking like me out there tonight


ConscriptReports

fucking christ campbell


_dictatorish_

MP got away with so much there Coming in the side, playing the ball in the ruck, and an early tackle


BlooBloo82

I can’t believe what they’ve been allowed to do in our mauls also


TGGNathan

I traded Kalani Thomas in the fantasy last week because he was never getting any gametime Tate swinging arm'd my fantasy budget too


ConscriptReports

seems to me he was tackled before catching that


Ribsi

yeah I wasn't going to whine because we're honestly playing like shit and have been undisciplined. but that had to be close to tackled without the ball.


fleakill

I'm sure the ref will go back for the early tackle!


exsnakecharmer

Selfish selfish...


Ngata_Problem

At least with Tate off he can’t tap and go


fleakill

And Vunivalu is off!!


Ribsi

Life's little victories.


Taey

Uru is such a wild card, absolutely no one on the field from either team knows what he's about to do,