Man it’s not even that, she listed a bunch of “damages” that are literally in the ingoing photos and condition report. She’s either the world’s worst liar or the absolute shits at her job. Or both.
They're shameless.
My last one they were calling out individual bits of fluff on walls, a tiny bit of goo in the bottom of the plughole in the sink, marks on walls where beds or couches had sat for five years. They'd evidently bought it ten years ago and I would bet anything they'd never painted it. They tried to ping me for stains on the original, forty year old uncovered chipboard shelving in the pantry. Like bitch, please.
I had the significant privilege at my last vacate as I was getting out of the rental market. So I didn't need to care what they thought. On top of that I had the confidence and the personal security to assert myself. They try it on like this and vulnerable people without my privilege feel obliged to accept.
If there isn't a law, there should be
There's a disdain for renters in Australia that simply doesn't exist in other parts of the world. Even renters themselves feel like they are somehow lesser beings because they cannot afford to buy a house (preferably has to be a house, on a quarter acre block, because apartments are only for sad singles and students).
I reckon that's cos we don't have the renting culture embedded. Historically, until property was turned in to a wealth investment by successive shitty governments, home ownership rates were much higher. Renting was typically, not exclusively of course, not permanent and usually by choice. Now that's becoming not the case and our laws haven't yet caught up with that reality.
The whole system needs to be updated. If we're going to have entire generations of people renting long term not by choice then the entire regulatory system needs to reflect that.
Longer leases, less reasons to vacate people, more opportunities personalise the property, all sorts of things.
But, crucially, it can't be down to the tenant to enforce the rules. There has to be a regulator who actually enforces things. The power imbalance between tenant and LL is just too great. This is not new, obviously. It's where shit rentals started, but its getting worse REs are just assuming they'll keep the bond and making shit up to pressure tenants who, typically, don't have the privilege to force the issue because of the aforementioned power imbalance.
It's all just completely cooked
I've hear a lot of landlords argue that the inspections wouldn't be necessary if there weren't so many horror stories about tenants leaving the place in a terrible state once the tenancy is over. I mean, I have definitely seen first hand some absolute shows (my brother rent his house out after moving interstate and within 2 years it was a hoarders house and crack den. But I can't help but think that if we didn't already treat renters like they are inherently irresponsible children, ans allowed them to feel pride in their home, the instances of tenants trashing the place would be pretty rare.
I also kind of feel like that is just one of the risks associated with investing in property. There are risks associated with all sorts of financial investments, some are lower risk, some are higher risk. It's the nature of gambling your money on something in the hopes you'll get a good return. If you aren't prepared for that level of risk, then property investment isn't for you.
True that. Also, they do these quarterly inspections, ostensibly to check if any maintenance issues need addressing, then just never actually DO any maintenance. Then blame the tenant for shit falling apart, when the LL was the one who was fully aware and chose to do nothing year after year. So what was the real reason for doing the inspection then? Coz it sure as shit isn't to actually address issues!
Yeah compared to east coast being once a year they do quarterly in wa… I asked after 2 years that if I may have it at least twice p/a as I think I have proven myself that I look after the place and not a shitty person and also thought this might help them having less responsibility in their calendar but Yeah they said no in a very generic, scripted response!
Many landlords I know seem to think they ought to have the right to enter "their" property whenever they feel like it for whatever reason they might come up with.
"After all, it's actually *my* house right?!"
They've obviously never heard of or have no understanding of the centuries old common law legal principle of *proprietary interest* when you sign a lease with a tenant.
Yeah like mine. Who lives next door. And used her husband to harass and intimidate my 15 year old son in to granting permission to do something with MY belongings in my yard that I rent while I was at work.
It really is shit, hey. Thing is no one has really addressed the changing circumstances where more people are renting for longer and not by choice. Historically that hasn't been the case and our laws have yet to catch up with the reality
I got flagged at an inspection once for having CLEAN dishes drying on the dish rack. They also had an issue with the outside rubbish bins being full. It was the day before rubbish collection day.
I’m currently renting temporarily for the first time in about 10 years. We had to move out of our home to finish some renos that couldn’t be done safely with little kids in the house. It’s only been a few months and it’s fucking awful. We have an investment property in another city, and I’m seriously considering switching it to a private rental. I can’t stand the thought of paying someone to be this terrible at their job, and I can’t stand the thought of our tenants being dissatisfied and living with issues.
I had one once that took a week to inspect the house after we moved and tried to breach us for the single dead cockroach in the kitchen. Had to drive an hour round trip and across two tolls to the real estate, get the key, sweep up the single cockroach and return the key to get our bond back.
Why?? When I move out I ensure the place is reasonably clean and the minute the lease ends apply to the bond authority to have my bond refunded.
There's nothing in the law about needing to wait for the agent to do their condition report. They're supposed to do that just before you return the keys on the final day of the lease. Not a week later.
If the agent comes up with ridiculous claims I tell them "well I've already got my bond back so you'll have to apply to VCAT if you want to dispute the state of the property."
They usually respond with something like "how did you get your bond back before..." Then it clicks that I've beaten them at their shitty little game, they hang up and I never hear about it again.
With bond refunds it's first come, first served.
Oh wow I always thought that the real estate had to release the bond to be able to get it back? And I was definitely pretty cranky it took them a week to inspect the property but I have never been good at standing up to real estate because I don’t want a mark against my name and not be able to rent.
Well just remember next time: the very moment the lease expires, put in an application to get your bond back.
Once you've put in your application for a refund, if there's any dispute about the condition of the property they have to take it via the civil claims tribunal.
From https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/housing/renting/rent-bond-bills-and-condition-reports/bond/bond-claims-and-refunds#renters-starting
Renters starting the claim
Any renter with their name on the bond can start the bond claim themselves after the agreement ends if they choose, but it does take longer to get the bond back.
Renters may want to do this if the rental provider is delaying the claim or there are problems getting another renter to sign or agree to a claim.
Once renters begin the claim through RTBA Online:
the RTBA gives written notice to the rental provider and any other renter on the bond
other renters or the rental provider have 14 days to contest the claim and show evidence of VCAT proceedings, or the RTBA will pay the claim.
If there is a VCAT application number then the claim will be cancelled (meaning the bond will not be repaid) and the renter who made the claim will be notified of the cancellation.
See the guide for renters on claiming a bond for instructions on how to use RTBA Online.
This is all correct and I do recommend doing it.
However, the shitty system we have allows agents to make a VCAT claim and halt the release of your bond for no cost except the time it takes them to fill out a one page form. They do not need to provide supporting evidence until the hearing. Wait times can be up to 2 years.
Many agents in Melbourne use this to extort renters, especially those returning home to overseas, for money. If their case has no merits, they can just withdraw it the day before the hearing with jo penalty whatsoever.
It proves there may be a cockroach infestation. That's their problem. I'm outraged for you that you drove all the way there to remove the roach. I've seen on this sub reddit a REA complain that a" hair tye needs to be removed from a door handle" for an outgoing inspection. Ridiculous. Takes more time for them to complain about these things rather than just taking 10 seconds to put in bin themselves.
We had to get pest control done when we moved out as per the lease so I would say that cockroach came in after we had gone and promptly died from the pest control. I couldn’t believe they didn’t just bin it themselves.
This is how I feel about minor issues at work that can be solved by 10 seconds or so of effort. I also feel like it's the same type of person that complains about these things.
It really depends on the roach, the bigger ones usually just wander in from outside especially in summer, it’s only a problem infestation if you have German cockroaches
This needs consequences.
My last rental, they tried this. I kept everything from my time there.
I said I'd take them to small claims to get my bond back, then the real estate registration board to take their licence. I know the likelihood of success is small, but totally worth my time.
I got my bond back.
we had the same thing, tried to claim for things that were in the original condition photos. Also said we wiped the kitchen bench the wrong way! Just hold your ground, they are bully’s
Make it a habit to to take 400 photos of every single room in the house. I’ve had several REA try and pull this crap on me but I always win when it goes to the tribunal
We got a notice for tribunal the day before our bond was to be released. They dropped the amount to about half but we ended up getting them down to about $150 mainly cause I couldn’t be fucked dealing with this fuckhead for another two months. Funny part is once we got an agreement we both had to submit a bond enquiry to get it released and she lied and said she had done it but when I called RBO they had no record of her doing it. Emailed again and was told she had definitely done it and didn’t like being called a liar by me so I sent her a screenshot of the bond history that shows all notifications/actions of both parties and that hers wasn’t on there and she should send me a screenshot of hers to prove it was done. Bond was released an hour later.
That's the problem we are not her customers the owners are. They are doing their job by being as underhanded as possible and getting every cent they can.
Yeah for sure. The irony being if no one rented she wouldn’t have a job is prob over her head. I guess if she wasn’t a property manager she’d be one of those goofs working in a church funded job agency or something equally useless
While we are talking about the image of the foot as evidence
Look at that foot
That is not the foot of somebody that works hard
That is one dopey mofos foot
You can tell
It'll never get to the tribunal. If they lodge a claim, they'll be hoping you'd rather agree to pay them something than wait potentially up to two years for a hearing (RTBA keeps your cash the whole time).
It costs the agent nothing to lodge, and they don't need to provide any evidence at all. They can withdraw the day before the hearing (if you call their bluff) with no penalty.
It's just a joke about online fetishists & the perceived ease of making money from that market. For a while I used to blur my feet before sending photos to friends & saying shit like, "I know my worth". Idk I just think it's funny.
This is honestly such a funny picture. Like the agent is all pissed off and serious about this but it's just a picture of a dirty unwashed foot hahah.
Like what was this person's state of mind? Why not use a finger?! and the framing of the foot is just, cartoony?
For some reason, and I can't explain this, but that foot gives off confused pikachu vibes.
I originally thought this was your ingoing photo evidence. Lol if the agent thinks it’s good evidence than it must be good enough evidence of not having to get a paid cleaner on the way out.
Also can you reply back to the agent to not post you her onlyfans photos?
Exactly. Take a picture of your clean foot with the same background and time stamp it. Take it with you to CAT.
In fact, it's an indication that the floor is now cleaner, not dirtier, given any grime would now be on that filthy cunt's foot.
Right?? Like... why are you rawdogging a floor that you are PROFFESIONALLY inspecting.
I mean shoes off for cleanliness and manners if you want, sure, but keep the socks on please
I haven't removed my cracked phone screen protector yet because it's such a pain to replace. Stand in the cleanest area I can think of, wash my hands, clean the screen, use clean tools.
Apply protector.
*there's a fucking speck caught under there*
Exactly why I gave up on screen protectors two year ago. Noticed some micro scratches yesterday but so worth it. They are less visible than a screen protector
We had property managers try to get us for mould stains on the wall. We'd complained to them multiple times about the mould problem and the owner didn't want to do anything about it.
We were frequently cleaning it off the wall but it stains and we weren't the first tenants.
Final inspection comes and they try to pin us for the mould stains, we produced emails of us taking the issue to them multiple times. Needless to say it didn't come out of the bond.
Oh, she sold the rental I was in years ago, and she was such a two faced b. I bent over backwards for all the inspections and shit and she was a turd. And then got nasty and bullying when I pushed back on their demands for carpet cleaning because it's outside of the legislation. Doesn't surprise me she made swipes for bond for bullshit reasons.
A wipe that had been wiped on the floor would have been acceptable lol but a dirty foot omg, maybe the inside of her shoes were dirty, maybe her feet were already dirty, maybe she went outside... this "proof" should not be allowed
Always apply for your bond return directly from the state bond authority in your state, never wait for the REA. The REA then have to defend their report and reasons for requesting them to send them *your* money. Not the other way around- most don't bother trying to contest when tenants apply directly to state for their bond back
Gross! 🤢 Why the hell would you take a picture of a dirty foot to prove the floor isn’t clean. Maybe just use a wipe or take a picture of the floor? Floor looks clean in this pic. So weird she took a picture of her foot. I would report this as it is so inappropriate and weird.
One of my old places had a bathroom vent that let in a layer of dust every day. So of course we get our bond stolen after they inspect the bathroom days after we cleaned it and moved out.
Found out quite a few REAs pocket the bond and don't give it to the LL.
If only there was an actual investigative and enforcement body out there that could actually be bothered investigating this shit.
Reminds me of the time we had a final inspection and they found 1 single hair on the floor & claimed the house was dirty. The inspector was bald. Clearly he was just jealous.
Textured? My MIL has these fake vinyl floorboards. She mops twice a day but I can tell you your feet look like that after 5 minutes. Something about them makes them impossible to clean.
I had textured lino in the last place I was at, and the only way to get it clean was to literally scrub it in sections on my hands and knees with a scrubbing brush. The ridges in it were so grabby for dirt, it was painful. And then it got dirty again in one day basically
My blood boils over when it comes to these tossers trying to screw people over in their exits.
The last rental I left legit waited until the last day possible to give me their version of the exit report noting down a heap of damages to take our bond.
I called them and pressed them on it hard noting that all except one of the things were actually noted on the entry report. Their response was "we can't find the entry condition report so we've just noted everything we found".
How are these fuckwits still walking around in our society.
I should also note the last item on the report was that the grass hadn't been mowed. Mind you they inspected the place a week after I dropped the keys off in a wet summer in QLD where we need to mow almost twice a week due to the grass regrowth.
Told them to go walk if they're gonna try and take bond over the weather since dropping keys off.
You're not the only one who had that thought... I normally wouldn't say anything about the appearance of someone else's feet, but if you are going to try to take a tenants bond using feet, pics, then they are fair game.
They look really wide to me?
Lmaooooooo how would this even be accepted! Absolutely ridiculous standards of professionalism.
I'm sure someone somewhere is jerking it to this pic though.
I had an REA years ago go outside and rub her fingers in the dirt to say my tiles weren’t clean. They were mopped and scrubbed the day before.
Parasites
I'd be tempted to accuse her of sexual harrasment for shits and giggles. She has clearly slipped in an unsolicited foot pic to fulfil her fetish. See what the REA say for lols
It’s the first room not floor literally as you walk in the door. But ya I’m glad she was able to absorb it all into her foot so the floor in the photo remained clean
I'm on the side of the landlord here. While it's not the most professional photo, it does appear to be from an unmopped floor. That said, I would have just wiped the floor with a tissue to illustrate this.
It’s the real estate agent not the landlord. We also mopped and swept the floor five days prior (and took photos) then had the house locked up and unattended until the final inspection. This is just one of like half a dozen lies we’ve caught her on
What is more ridiculous.
1. Real estate agent has walked around barefoot all day with the intention of framing you for having a dirty floor.
2. Real estate agent removed shoes before entering house, inspects house, notices feet are filthy and in a socialy weird/unorthodox way takes a picture of foot to prove.
Only you know how filthy your place was.
You mean a real estate agent that lied to me about being able to claim my own bond back, lied about the condition of the house (states damages that are listed on the VERY CONDITION REPORT SHE WAS USING), tried to get me to pay a final water bill despite us living in a house without a seperate water meter (and we hadn’t paid a water bill in 3 years) would suddenly be too honest to make up this bullshit story?
Jog on mate
The comments are a combination of “the floor is clean because brownish dirt isn’t visible on a brownish wood-patterned floor” and “RE’s feet are absolutely filthy, she must have come in with filthy feet.”
Like, I’m not a renter now but I was for decades so I get the pain. But how is this floor not filthy? Obviously the woman did not come in with feet looking like that if she wore shoes in.
If you want to prove the floor is clean and she DID come in with dirty feet, take a white bit of paper or cloth towel, dampen it and film it being wiped it on the floor and coming up clean. It won’t.
People are commenting because the photo is ridiculous mate. She wore flats with no socks to the inspection so it’s not exactly a shock that her feet would be dirty when she took them off. The floors were cleaned and the house was unattended too for 5 days. She was the first person that came in. I mean if you wanna believe that came from the floor then more power to ya but your wrong buddy
Our entry photos showed different kitchen tap, different light fittings, laundry basin cupboard door missing. When we pointed it out they were not concerned about it, but we have an email trail covering us now.
Also vacuumed the house when we moved in and got pics of the dirt and fluff our little domestic machine pulled out of professionally cleaned carpets.
I had one a few years ago that told me I was in violation of “keeping the premises clean and free of excess clutter” (paraphrasing) after an inspection and sent me a photo of the pile of clean clothes I pulled from the dryer that morning and left on my bed.
I replied that I couldn’t find anything about unfolded laundry in the rental contract and she should keep her opinions to herself.
Never heard about it again.
These people get a power trip because they have nothing else to live for.
We lost our bond because we lost the photos of before we moved (yes our fault)..... but what was infuriating is that one of the cupboard doors was only on 1 hinge when we moved in and was left the same when we moved out, so the when they done the inspection they ripped the whole cupboard door off and threw it on the ground, took a picture of it and said we done it.... legit wanted to go into that wankers office and bash them for that
Yeah there trying to get us on a few things like a creased vertical blind slat which IMO would be fair wear and tear but they are also like 15 years old so the depreciation would be zero in regards to any compensation we would owe. I don’t understand this complete lack of respect for a tenant like we are some kind of low IQ subhuman, it’s pretty gross.
I’ve always found the cleaner you make it, the more they search for the tiniest things in a last ditch attempt of keeping a couple grand in bond. Every single place I’ve ever rented has been legitimately filthy when I’ve moved in, and spotless when I’ve moved out. Every time they would attempt to get the bond, and every time they failed. They are a scummy breed of people.
Lol we returned our apartment a few days early and had it steam cleaned. They did an inspection and the carpets were still wet - a foot print was left and they tried to blame it on us. Poor cleaner had to come back to get rid of the footprint someone else left 🫥
to get a foot like that takes over an hour on bare concrete no paint.
tiles never seen in my life.
either you are bringing in the dirt from outside in volumes to grow spuds or there full of shit.
also if your a pro you wear shoes your getting scammed.
Just bite back with "Floor looks clean in the photo, so why are you walking on it with your filthy bare feet?"
Man it’s not even that, she listed a bunch of “damages” that are literally in the ingoing photos and condition report. She’s either the world’s worst liar or the absolute shits at her job. Or both.
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They're shameless. My last one they were calling out individual bits of fluff on walls, a tiny bit of goo in the bottom of the plughole in the sink, marks on walls where beds or couches had sat for five years. They'd evidently bought it ten years ago and I would bet anything they'd never painted it. They tried to ping me for stains on the original, forty year old uncovered chipboard shelving in the pantry. Like bitch, please. I had the significant privilege at my last vacate as I was getting out of the rental market. So I didn't need to care what they thought. On top of that I had the confidence and the personal security to assert myself. They try it on like this and vulnerable people without my privilege feel obliged to accept. If there isn't a law, there should be
I’ve rented overseas and it wasn’t close to being as shit as renting in Australia.
I’ve literally never had a rental inspection until I moved to Australia.
Renting is probably the worst part of living here. It’s not surprising that people are so desperate to buy their own homes.
There's a disdain for renters in Australia that simply doesn't exist in other parts of the world. Even renters themselves feel like they are somehow lesser beings because they cannot afford to buy a house (preferably has to be a house, on a quarter acre block, because apartments are only for sad singles and students).
I reckon that's cos we don't have the renting culture embedded. Historically, until property was turned in to a wealth investment by successive shitty governments, home ownership rates were much higher. Renting was typically, not exclusively of course, not permanent and usually by choice. Now that's becoming not the case and our laws haven't yet caught up with that reality.
There needs to be greater protection for renters, such as long-term leases and allowing pets, so that it's not such a disadvantage.
The whole system needs to be updated. If we're going to have entire generations of people renting long term not by choice then the entire regulatory system needs to reflect that. Longer leases, less reasons to vacate people, more opportunities personalise the property, all sorts of things. But, crucially, it can't be down to the tenant to enforce the rules. There has to be a regulator who actually enforces things. The power imbalance between tenant and LL is just too great. This is not new, obviously. It's where shit rentals started, but its getting worse REs are just assuming they'll keep the bond and making shit up to pressure tenants who, typically, don't have the privilege to force the issue because of the aforementioned power imbalance. It's all just completely cooked
We love to demonise the less fortunate in this country, and renters are seen as being in that group.
I've just discovered that I have them every 3 months! Utterly absurd.
I can’t believe this is legal! They allow the landlord to treat you like a teenager living under their roof!
Unmade beds could damage the property! ~~Kids~~ Tenants these days just have no respect.
I've hear a lot of landlords argue that the inspections wouldn't be necessary if there weren't so many horror stories about tenants leaving the place in a terrible state once the tenancy is over. I mean, I have definitely seen first hand some absolute shows (my brother rent his house out after moving interstate and within 2 years it was a hoarders house and crack den. But I can't help but think that if we didn't already treat renters like they are inherently irresponsible children, ans allowed them to feel pride in their home, the instances of tenants trashing the place would be pretty rare. I also kind of feel like that is just one of the risks associated with investing in property. There are risks associated with all sorts of financial investments, some are lower risk, some are higher risk. It's the nature of gambling your money on something in the hopes you'll get a good return. If you aren't prepared for that level of risk, then property investment isn't for you.
True that. Also, they do these quarterly inspections, ostensibly to check if any maintenance issues need addressing, then just never actually DO any maintenance. Then blame the tenant for shit falling apart, when the LL was the one who was fully aware and chose to do nothing year after year. So what was the real reason for doing the inspection then? Coz it sure as shit isn't to actually address issues!
This is so constant in every rental I have. Every 12 weeks I have to put on a show so some fuckwit can come have a gander and to a photoshoot.
Yeah compared to east coast being once a year they do quarterly in wa… I asked after 2 years that if I may have it at least twice p/a as I think I have proven myself that I look after the place and not a shitty person and also thought this might help them having less responsibility in their calendar but Yeah they said no in a very generic, scripted response!
Am in NSW
I lived in Sydney 10 years and never had more than once a year
I've been here 26 years and never had more than an annual one.
Wow they also lost their minds in nsw as well then!
Many landlords I know seem to think they ought to have the right to enter "their" property whenever they feel like it for whatever reason they might come up with. "After all, it's actually *my* house right?!" They've obviously never heard of or have no understanding of the centuries old common law legal principle of *proprietary interest* when you sign a lease with a tenant.
Yeah like mine. Who lives next door. And used her husband to harass and intimidate my 15 year old son in to granting permission to do something with MY belongings in my yard that I rent while I was at work.
It really is shit, hey. Thing is no one has really addressed the changing circumstances where more people are renting for longer and not by choice. Historically that hasn't been the case and our laws have yet to catch up with the reality
REA tried to ping us because a ceiling light had dust on it. Like mate get fucked
I got flagged at an inspection once for having CLEAN dishes drying on the dish rack. They also had an issue with the outside rubbish bins being full. It was the day before rubbish collection day. I’m currently renting temporarily for the first time in about 10 years. We had to move out of our home to finish some renos that couldn’t be done safely with little kids in the house. It’s only been a few months and it’s fucking awful. We have an investment property in another city, and I’m seriously considering switching it to a private rental. I can’t stand the thought of paying someone to be this terrible at their job, and I can’t stand the thought of our tenants being dissatisfied and living with issues.
I had one once that took a week to inspect the house after we moved and tried to breach us for the single dead cockroach in the kitchen. Had to drive an hour round trip and across two tolls to the real estate, get the key, sweep up the single cockroach and return the key to get our bond back.
Why?? When I move out I ensure the place is reasonably clean and the minute the lease ends apply to the bond authority to have my bond refunded. There's nothing in the law about needing to wait for the agent to do their condition report. They're supposed to do that just before you return the keys on the final day of the lease. Not a week later. If the agent comes up with ridiculous claims I tell them "well I've already got my bond back so you'll have to apply to VCAT if you want to dispute the state of the property." They usually respond with something like "how did you get your bond back before..." Then it clicks that I've beaten them at their shitty little game, they hang up and I never hear about it again. With bond refunds it's first come, first served.
Oh wow I always thought that the real estate had to release the bond to be able to get it back? And I was definitely pretty cranky it took them a week to inspect the property but I have never been good at standing up to real estate because I don’t want a mark against my name and not be able to rent.
Well just remember next time: the very moment the lease expires, put in an application to get your bond back. Once you've put in your application for a refund, if there's any dispute about the condition of the property they have to take it via the civil claims tribunal. From https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/housing/renting/rent-bond-bills-and-condition-reports/bond/bond-claims-and-refunds#renters-starting Renters starting the claim Any renter with their name on the bond can start the bond claim themselves after the agreement ends if they choose, but it does take longer to get the bond back. Renters may want to do this if the rental provider is delaying the claim or there are problems getting another renter to sign or agree to a claim. Once renters begin the claim through RTBA Online: the RTBA gives written notice to the rental provider and any other renter on the bond other renters or the rental provider have 14 days to contest the claim and show evidence of VCAT proceedings, or the RTBA will pay the claim. If there is a VCAT application number then the claim will be cancelled (meaning the bond will not be repaid) and the renter who made the claim will be notified of the cancellation. See the guide for renters on claiming a bond for instructions on how to use RTBA Online.
This is all correct and I do recommend doing it. However, the shitty system we have allows agents to make a VCAT claim and halt the release of your bond for no cost except the time it takes them to fill out a one page form. They do not need to provide supporting evidence until the hearing. Wait times can be up to 2 years. Many agents in Melbourne use this to extort renters, especially those returning home to overseas, for money. If their case has no merits, they can just withdraw it the day before the hearing with jo penalty whatsoever.
It proves there may be a cockroach infestation. That's their problem. I'm outraged for you that you drove all the way there to remove the roach. I've seen on this sub reddit a REA complain that a" hair tye needs to be removed from a door handle" for an outgoing inspection. Ridiculous. Takes more time for them to complain about these things rather than just taking 10 seconds to put in bin themselves.
We had to get pest control done when we moved out as per the lease so I would say that cockroach came in after we had gone and promptly died from the pest control. I couldn’t believe they didn’t just bin it themselves.
This is how I feel about minor issues at work that can be solved by 10 seconds or so of effort. I also feel like it's the same type of person that complains about these things.
It really depends on the roach, the bigger ones usually just wander in from outside especially in summer, it’s only a problem infestation if you have German cockroaches
I once had an REA point out a single hair on the stovetop. It was blonde. No one in the house had blonde hair. She did though
It's become a sport to try and take as much of the bond as possible
This needs consequences. My last rental, they tried this. I kept everything from my time there. I said I'd take them to small claims to get my bond back, then the real estate registration board to take their licence. I know the likelihood of success is small, but totally worth my time. I got my bond back.
we had the same thing, tried to claim for things that were in the original condition photos. Also said we wiped the kitchen bench the wrong way! Just hold your ground, they are bully’s
How does one wipe the kitchen benches the wrong way? Did you go left to right instead of right to left?
Nah got to wipe it in a polka dot fashion
My wife had one who wanted her to fix "strange lines" on the floor. Turns out it was sunlight coming through the blinds, smh can't make this shit up
Make it a habit to to take 400 photos of every single room in the house. I’ve had several REA try and pull this crap on me but I always win when it goes to the tribunal
They're all scum. Most property managers and owners think your bond is an extra thing you need to pay.
Definitely update us to how this pans out
They should make some money off the photo and put it on only fans.
We got a notice for tribunal the day before our bond was to be released. They dropped the amount to about half but we ended up getting them down to about $150 mainly cause I couldn’t be fucked dealing with this fuckhead for another two months. Funny part is once we got an agreement we both had to submit a bond enquiry to get it released and she lied and said she had done it but when I called RBO they had no record of her doing it. Emailed again and was told she had definitely done it and didn’t like being called a liar by me so I sent her a screenshot of the bond history that shows all notifications/actions of both parties and that hers wasn’t on there and she should send me a screenshot of hers to prove it was done. Bond was released an hour later.
Haha f’ing slimy SOBs. Well done
Well, "shit at her job" is a relitive term. Shes an REA doing exactly what REA is paid to do, right? To wit: lie and be a scumbag.
They don’t give a fuck, it’s a thousand dollar bonus for them
They are fucking shitstains, with dirty feet.
Fight it all the way. RTA, small claims. Screw them.
Both. This is how you qualify to be an estate agent, particularly in rentals
That's the problem we are not her customers the owners are. They are doing their job by being as underhanded as possible and getting every cent they can.
Yeah for sure. The irony being if no one rented she wouldn’t have a job is prob over her head. I guess if she wasn’t a property manager she’d be one of those goofs working in a church funded job agency or something equally useless
Aye legit "Get your dirty ass feet out of my home, have you no manners"
Agent literally taking feet pics
Imagine the face of the tribunal if they tried taking that further 🤣
Wonder if there's a timestamped photo of a clean foot a few minutes before entering that particular room. 😭
While we are talking about the image of the foot as evidence Look at that foot That is not the foot of somebody that works hard That is one dopey mofos foot You can tell
It'll never get to the tribunal. If they lodge a claim, they'll be hoping you'd rather agree to pay them something than wait potentially up to two years for a hearing (RTBA keeps your cash the whole time). It costs the agent nothing to lodge, and they don't need to provide any evidence at all. They can withdraw the day before the hearing (if you call their bluff) with no penalty.
Of course the floors are gonna get dirty when grubby REAs are tracking bullshit through the house
There must be so many feet subs to post that to.
That was my first thought, putting those dawgs online for FREEE?!!
I'd be tempted to blur the photo & send it back asking why she felt it necessary to send her Only Fans content to a tenant.
Would they want this, or would a dirty foot be particularly vile to them? Or is that like a sub-fetish?
It's just a joke about online fetishists & the perceived ease of making money from that market. For a while I used to blur my feet before sending photos to friends & saying shit like, "I know my worth". Idk I just think it's funny.
Ok but that’s hilarious
LMAO
It's more of a sub fetish.
This is honestly such a funny picture. Like the agent is all pissed off and serious about this but it's just a picture of a dirty unwashed foot hahah. Like what was this person's state of mind? Why not use a finger?! and the framing of the foot is just, cartoony? For some reason, and I can't explain this, but that foot gives off confused pikachu vibes. 
It's so funny, the angle and spread toes. The fact she thought that was a slam dunk.
>For some reason, and I can't explain this, but that foot gives off confused pikachu vibes. Actually, no I can see it
Ewww. No shame + trying to use said lack of shame to pilfer bond funds. Laughable.
I originally thought this was your ingoing photo evidence. Lol if the agent thinks it’s good evidence than it must be good enough evidence of not having to get a paid cleaner on the way out. Also can you reply back to the agent to not post you her onlyfans photos?
Exactly. Take a picture of your clean foot with the same background and time stamp it. Take it with you to CAT. In fact, it's an indication that the floor is now cleaner, not dirtier, given any grime would now be on that filthy cunt's foot.
Do REAs regularly remove their shoes and socks when doing inspections?
This was my thought. Who TF is doing an inspection BAREFOOT??? Ew
Right?? Like... why are you rawdogging a floor that you are PROFFESIONALLY inspecting. I mean shoes off for cleanliness and manners if you want, sure, but keep the socks on please
"rawdogging a floor" 🤣🤣
I’ve mopped the kitchen floor twice in one day, with bleach & floor cleaner, & it still won’t remove all the dirt. Fuck this PM.
It takes seconds on tiles and hardwood flooring to be covered in red dust in summer in australia, would be screwed even with all the airholes shut!
I haven't removed my cracked phone screen protector yet because it's such a pain to replace. Stand in the cleanest area I can think of, wash my hands, clean the screen, use clean tools. Apply protector. *there's a fucking speck caught under there* 
Exactly why I gave up on screen protectors two year ago. Noticed some micro scratches yesterday but so worth it. They are less visible than a screen protector
Yeah. And with my floor. It’s a pain and I kind of gave up
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🤣 Please take my poor person’s gold 🥇
Fuck that's nasty. What an unwashed hobo. Throw them in the decontamination chamber and start the deep clean cycle.
We had property managers try to get us for mould stains on the wall. We'd complained to them multiple times about the mould problem and the owner didn't want to do anything about it. We were frequently cleaning it off the wall but it stains and we weren't the first tenants. Final inspection comes and they try to pin us for the mould stains, we produced emails of us taking the issue to them multiple times. Needless to say it didn't come out of the bond.
I wonder if this is Griffin reap estate up in burpengary, our REA claimed a hair on the counter 🤣🤣 alice mcswiney
Oh, she sold the rental I was in years ago, and she was such a two faced b. I bent over backwards for all the inspections and shit and she was a turd. And then got nasty and bullying when I pushed back on their demands for carpet cleaning because it's outside of the legislation. Doesn't surprise me she made swipes for bond for bullshit reasons.
Nah Hunter Valley
Jesus christ
Yeah he probably DID have dirty feet 😬
Lucky your toilet seat was clean enough.
A wipe that had been wiped on the floor would have been acceptable lol but a dirty foot omg, maybe the inside of her shoes were dirty, maybe her feet were already dirty, maybe she went outside... this "proof" should not be allowed
Always apply for your bond return directly from the state bond authority in your state, never wait for the REA. The REA then have to defend their report and reasons for requesting them to send them *your* money. Not the other way around- most don't bother trying to contest when tenants apply directly to state for their bond back
Ya bond was claimed after I walked out of the door, just waiting on it to be refunded.
Gross! 🤢 Why the hell would you take a picture of a dirty foot to prove the floor isn’t clean. Maybe just use a wipe or take a picture of the floor? Floor looks clean in this pic. So weird she took a picture of her foot. I would report this as it is so inappropriate and weird.
Well she won’t have an onlyfans career with those
One of my old places had a bathroom vent that let in a layer of dust every day. So of course we get our bond stolen after they inspect the bathroom days after we cleaned it and moved out.
Sell it on feetfinder
That's obviously a fake foot, her real one is a cloven hoof 😈
Found out quite a few REAs pocket the bond and don't give it to the LL. If only there was an actual investigative and enforcement body out there that could actually be bothered investigating this shit.
There is, we just need to send them tea towels to dry their lettuce leafs for more effective wrist slappings
I'm sorry...Why the F are they walking around in a rental (effectively their workplace) in bare feet? How unprofessional can you be?!
Reminds me of the time we had a final inspection and they found 1 single hair on the floor & claimed the house was dirty. The inspector was bald. Clearly he was just jealous.
This is so cringe.. there are splinters in her feet. My feet would probably look cleaner after doing the Kokoda trail.
Vinyl tiles floor?
Nah floating floor board
Textured? My MIL has these fake vinyl floorboards. She mops twice a day but I can tell you your feet look like that after 5 minutes. Something about them makes them impossible to clean.
I had textured lino in the last place I was at, and the only way to get it clean was to literally scrub it in sections on my hands and knees with a scrubbing brush. The ridges in it were so grabby for dirt, it was painful. And then it got dirty again in one day basically
Shoes are your friend.
My blood boils over when it comes to these tossers trying to screw people over in their exits. The last rental I left legit waited until the last day possible to give me their version of the exit report noting down a heap of damages to take our bond. I called them and pressed them on it hard noting that all except one of the things were actually noted on the entry report. Their response was "we can't find the entry condition report so we've just noted everything we found". How are these fuckwits still walking around in our society. I should also note the last item on the report was that the grass hadn't been mowed. Mind you they inspected the place a week after I dropped the keys off in a wet summer in QLD where we need to mow almost twice a week due to the grass regrowth. Told them to go walk if they're gonna try and take bond over the weather since dropping keys off.
FOR FREE?
Is that an odd shaped foot or am I just too accustomed to seeing my own foot?
You're not the only one who had that thought... I normally wouldn't say anything about the appearance of someone else's feet, but if you are going to try to take a tenants bond using feet, pics, then they are fair game. They look really wide to me?
Her feet are disgusting 🤮🤮🤮
Put ya foot down Frodo
The property manager needs some hygiene training. Her feet are filthy.
Didn't know Chris Hemsworth was a property manager
"no pets allowed" *Sends a pic of 5 dogs*
The floor should be clean enough to shit on.
What a dirty pig no one wants to see your feet, get a life.
Lmaooooooo how would this even be accepted! Absolutely ridiculous standards of professionalism. I'm sure someone somewhere is jerking it to this pic though.
I nearly spewed looking at that photo. Put your claws away
I'd send her an equally strange photo back or maybe a photo of soap and a mini scrub brush
I had an REA years ago go outside and rub her fingers in the dirt to say my tiles weren’t clean. They were mopped and scrubbed the day before. Parasites
The fact I don't doubt this for a second is an issue on its own.
I'd be tempted to accuse her of sexual harrasment for shits and giggles. She has clearly slipped in an unsolicited foot pic to fulfil her fetish. See what the REA say for lols
The graft and toxic control of these people . OMFG
Bro just wanted to show you her crusty arse foot
At your next inspection insist that clean feet are supplied with the house - it seems feet are clearly included with your property…0
Is this the estate agent version of a "dic* pic"?
Cross post to wikifeet and profit?
That’s disgusting, that is the ugliest foot I have ever seen, and I can’t believe it’s attached to a women!
Grubby prick
Dude…that’s free feet pics
Nice feet though.
Bruh if that’s what’s on the feet after the first floor… I’m sorry but that place was fucking filthy
It’s the first room not floor literally as you walk in the door. But ya I’m glad she was able to absorb it all into her foot so the floor in the photo remained clean
I'm on the side of the landlord here. While it's not the most professional photo, it does appear to be from an unmopped floor. That said, I would have just wiped the floor with a tissue to illustrate this.
It’s the real estate agent not the landlord. We also mopped and swept the floor five days prior (and took photos) then had the house locked up and unattended until the final inspection. This is just one of like half a dozen lies we’ve caught her on
Ah ok, full disclosure I lacked a bit of context there but seems pretty nightmarish
This dirty foot is an attempt to screw $1600 out of the tenant. You are on the side of the landlord with this
That looks like a guys foot. I’m calling bullshit.
lol at the foot gender expert here
They don't have hairy legs
If your foot is that dirty from walking around someone’s house then the floor is filthy.
Or get this, they could have literally walked in with feet like that? Yes it’s crazy and stupid but so is taking that photo
What is more ridiculous. 1. Real estate agent has walked around barefoot all day with the intention of framing you for having a dirty floor. 2. Real estate agent removed shoes before entering house, inspects house, notices feet are filthy and in a socialy weird/unorthodox way takes a picture of foot to prove. Only you know how filthy your place was.
You mean a real estate agent that lied to me about being able to claim my own bond back, lied about the condition of the house (states damages that are listed on the VERY CONDITION REPORT SHE WAS USING), tried to get me to pay a final water bill despite us living in a house without a seperate water meter (and we hadn’t paid a water bill in 3 years) would suddenly be too honest to make up this bullshit story? Jog on mate
The comments are a combination of “the floor is clean because brownish dirt isn’t visible on a brownish wood-patterned floor” and “RE’s feet are absolutely filthy, she must have come in with filthy feet.” Like, I’m not a renter now but I was for decades so I get the pain. But how is this floor not filthy? Obviously the woman did not come in with feet looking like that if she wore shoes in. If you want to prove the floor is clean and she DID come in with dirty feet, take a white bit of paper or cloth towel, dampen it and film it being wiped it on the floor and coming up clean. It won’t.
People are commenting because the photo is ridiculous mate. She wore flats with no socks to the inspection so it’s not exactly a shock that her feet would be dirty when she took them off. The floors were cleaned and the house was unattended too for 5 days. She was the first person that came in. I mean if you wanna believe that came from the floor then more power to ya but your wrong buddy
Found the property manager
Sorry but a photo of your foot is not evidence and also just straight up weird.
Imagine sending someone a pic of your foot. Man that’s just so disgusting. Is she going to sit on the toilet seat and send a pic of her bum next? Lmao
Would be funny if they threatened to take it up the tenancy board!
OMG dirty road feet
I guess this is good for the tenant if they like feet.
FILTH
Thats such a weird thing to do. Is this something she does for every inspection...The Foot Test?! It could be really offensive to some cultures.
It is true that all Rental Managers are Ankles…. (For the uninitiated that means they’re lower can a cvnt).
That’s filth took awhile to build up you should of used a different excuse you stupid dodgy bitch lol
I used to always take my own photos and compare it to theirs when moving into a rental. No way was I trusting their word
Our entry photos showed different kitchen tap, different light fittings, laundry basin cupboard door missing. When we pointed it out they were not concerned about it, but we have an email trail covering us now. Also vacuumed the house when we moved in and got pics of the dirt and fluff our little domestic machine pulled out of professionally cleaned carpets.
I had one a few years ago that told me I was in violation of “keeping the premises clean and free of excess clutter” (paraphrasing) after an inspection and sent me a photo of the pile of clean clothes I pulled from the dryer that morning and left on my bed. I replied that I couldn’t find anything about unfolded laundry in the rental contract and she should keep her opinions to herself. Never heard about it again. These people get a power trip because they have nothing else to live for.
Why do they try that? Does the REA get a cut of the bond?
r/dirtyfeet
I’d be embarrassed if those stubby stun stub toes
Dirty fucker
We lost our bond because we lost the photos of before we moved (yes our fault)..... but what was infuriating is that one of the cupboard doors was only on 1 hinge when we moved in and was left the same when we moved out, so the when they done the inspection they ripped the whole cupboard door off and threw it on the ground, took a picture of it and said we done it.... legit wanted to go into that wankers office and bash them for that
Yeah there trying to get us on a few things like a creased vertical blind slat which IMO would be fair wear and tear but they are also like 15 years old so the depreciation would be zero in regards to any compensation we would owe. I don’t understand this complete lack of respect for a tenant like we are some kind of low IQ subhuman, it’s pretty gross.
Mate, I wish you would've put NSFW warning
Looks like a photo from a Scavenger Hunt.
Tell her that some people will pay good coin for more photos of those feet on only fans.
Tell them your taking them to the tribunal my partners last landlord instantly back down from being a major jackass after that
I’ve always found the cleaner you make it, the more they search for the tiniest things in a last ditch attempt of keeping a couple grand in bond. Every single place I’ve ever rented has been legitimately filthy when I’ve moved in, and spotless when I’ve moved out. Every time they would attempt to get the bond, and every time they failed. They are a scummy breed of people.
Jeez, for free? Their OF not taking off or something?
Lol we returned our apartment a few days early and had it steam cleaned. They did an inspection and the carpets were still wet - a foot print was left and they tried to blame it on us. Poor cleaner had to come back to get rid of the footprint someone else left 🫥
Put your filthy fucken foot down and perhaps wear shoes next time
Sweet Jesus WHY
The inside of her cheap high-heels are dirty and this is why her feet are like this. Can you name and shame?
Nah it’s against the rules. If you think it’s someone you know DM and I’ll tell you if your right
to get a foot like that takes over an hour on bare concrete no paint. tiles never seen in my life. either you are bringing in the dirt from outside in volumes to grow spuds or there full of shit. also if your a pro you wear shoes your getting scammed.
though working in white goods for a bit. some of us are filth. I will not share which faction but it is a faction.