I don’t understand why your comment has so many upvotes. It’s fairly common practice to paint in pieces and to assemble afterwards. And your borderline useless comment of “Follow the instructions” just makes you sound like a tool.
Editing since people can’t seem to use common sense: it’s fairly common knowledge that subassembly painting happens within the hobby and community, even if you don’t do it personally. The fact that people are acting like it is a stupid idea or that OP was too dim to “ReAd InStRuCtIoNs” is blatantly rude and a bad look for the community, full stop. Stop acting like troglodytes and discouraging your fellow Astartes from embracing their pursuit of better miniatures. Why mock someone for striving for a higher standard? Come on.
It's only fairly common by people who tend to paint *way* above tabletop standard.
Probably 90% if not 95% of painted models are painted fully assembled.
Doesn’t matter. OP has a nice paint job, they probably wanted to take their time and put care into it. It’s still not a foreign concept, even if you don’t do it. Pretty sure 90-95% of the community knows subassembly painting exists and isn’t a crazy idea.
Nice contribution, you’re really moving the conversation along. I expressed confusion on why such a rude and disingenuous comment of “follow the instructions” was so upvoted. I was confused on why the community has decided to have a big wank session over how clever they are for telling someone who tried to give their model the best paint job they could to follow the instructions. Have you ever bought a proxy? Done a kitbash or conversion? Congrats, you’re a fool for not following Games Workshops instructions. Pay for their overpriced plastic in full, dont do anything they wouldn’t 100% support or else you’re an absolute buffoon. GW tells you to use 30 different paints to paint a Salamander Aggressor, do you do it? Do you follow their instructions to the very end? Or do you take creative liberties in the name of striving for your personal goals? This shit is stupid, and you all should feel like complete asses for talking down to your fellow Astartes. Don’t be pricks and act like Papa GW knows best 100% of the time. Papa GW charges you over $1000 for a gunship. Papa GW destroys their own products to induce scarcity and keep prices high. They would steal your kidney and kick your dog if it meant they’d make an extra $5.
Attaching the head is assembly step #2 for all three aggressor poses. Maybe, just maybe, this is because they know they don't fit once the chest/back pieces are assembled... And therefore: following the instructions would have allowed OP to avoid their current situation.
It also would’ve made it harder to paint. Hindsight’s 20/20. OP saw that it was gonna be hard to paint and left it out to save themselves the trouble, sure it backfired in the end but it’s a lesson to be learned and grown from. The statements of “follow instructions” are disingenuous and people acting like they’re clever. OP built an aggressor, each set having 6 almost identical flamers. Each of which with an oddly shaped line running to them. How do you match those up without looking at the instructions? Without reading instructions how do you know that you can’t put the launchers on their backpacks? Like come on. It wasn’t ignorance, it was forethought that backfired.
You’ve missed the point here.
Yes subassemblies are good. Especially for heads. But the Aggressor build has you attach the head to the front torso before attaching the rear torso at all.
This is because the rear torso has an odd curved hood almost like the old Librarian armour, with the head nestled inside. By joining the torso halves together without the head, the space to put the head in is really small and fiddly.
Not every kit lends itself to a headless build, now without forethought and planning at any rate.
I’d say painting before assembling is way less common than the alternative, considering “grey armies” are a common problem in the hobby. I’d assume most people go for a rattle can primer or use thin layers to start, so they wouldn’t need the intensive work of making sure glue doesn’t ruin your models, as is evident with OP.
Glue didn’t ruin the model. Make sure you’re reading everything beforehand. Even if it isn’t common-practice, it’s common knowledge that it’s done within the community. No need to act like it’s a ridiculous idea or like someone’s an idiot for doing it and making a mistake.
Guy, you’re looking for insults where there are none. They scratched the paint on the head, and now it’s stuck after they fitted it. The glue is an issue aside from the paint, but you run the risk of ruining your paint job with the way some parts fit.
I don’t care how you paint, but there’s easier ways to do some of it if you have challenges to finishing your model. You could put a dozen layers and washes on or slap up 4 colors, all that matters is that you’re comfortable with your end product.
*Before glueing* from the looks of it. If you glue that torso together on the agressors without that head in you either try your luck forcing it in (which seem like it went in, hes actually lucky I reckon) or youve gotta make some cuts.
I actually made this mistake myself once.
Didnt put any glue on in the process here did you? Best bet is to pry it out and salvage what you can of the paint.
I found with these I needed to trim the bottom of the head to squeeze it into the shroud the right way 😅
Thanks, you're the only one who was decent enough to provide some advice. There was no glue, the damn thing was just stuck on its own. I tried dryfitting before I even glued the torso together to make sure I could fit it afterwards, but when the time came...
Anyhow, i did like you said, removed the "neck" and fitted the head in. Its a bit caved in now, but it looks ok. Thanks for the advice
If you ever have joints that are a pain, (i also paint then assemble with some models) use green stuff! If you cant get green stuff to stick nobody can help you.
And some people don't so they can get a better paint job on the figurine, some people prefer not to attach them before painting, they prefer to paint them before attaching them to bases and if that works for them then that's fine.
Well you would find it interesting that the instructions for all three aggressor poses have you put the head onto the front chest piece BEFORE attaching the back/hood portion... Seems like the instructions may be onto something in this case...
Obviously OP had issues due to assembling the pieces in the incorrect order due to geometry issues because he didn't paint ALL of the pieces unassembled... OP had no issues with glue so I don't know why you're discussing glue.
You are incorrect. I never mentioned anything about glue. If you're going to assemble some part of a structure in an order not intended by the designer, it is wise to make sure that your new order of operations is a valid one for assembling the structure. OP assembled the rest of the model but did not check that the head would fit when attached out of order. This issue is not uncommon for many heads with Librarian hoods for example.
Because I like doing something that makes me a child, by your incredibly dense logic because you like playing 40k then you're a child, you're a fandan and it's hilarious that after 6 days that's the best you can come up with a reply. Lastly my mum? You're the fucking child who wants to tell on people are you?
Lot of jackasses in here telling you to “follow instructions” like sub-assembly isn’t a super normal thing that lots of people do. Love to watch some of them try and paint a Skaven screaming bell without sub assembly. Brainlessly assembling the whole model is not always correct if you want to set yourself up for the best paint job you can manage. And I get why you’d do it with an Aggressor head there are gunna be parts that are in that danger zone of hard to paint but easy to see once the head is in there.
Sadly I genuinely don’t have any advice. Probably just gunna have accept more damage to paint and model and just pry it head out with some tweezers. One piece of advice I would give for future sub-assembling is varnishing before hand. Helps protect your paint job why’ll your inevitably fiddling with the pieces. Especially since sub assembly usually requires super glueing parts instead of plastic glue, witch I find is much better at getting my fingers stuck together then any of my models. Best of luck mate paint job looks great love me some black-blue-silver.
Thanks man. I managed to pull the head out, cut off the neck and wedge it back in somehow. It aint perfect but it looks ok. Paint took a hit, but I'll just pretend its weathering. As for subassembly, i mean yeah, painting eyes is next to impossible for me of the head isnt separated. And I doubt I'm the only one who tried this with agressors
Oh, lmao, he's just too chonky for his own good then? Glad you fixed it! Poor thing now gets to have an embarrassing backstory for his battle damage at least.
Cut the bottom half of the neck ball and stick a lump of sticky tack attached to a dowel to the front of the face and use that maneuver it in. Practice each one a few times without any glue so you know how you need to do it before you do it live. Place the glue at the back and the rear floor of the helmet bubble.
Hm, that's good advice, thank you. I already cut the neck ball (completely) and used tweezers to wedge it in. Scrached some more paint and the head is now kinda caved in, but looks ok.
I'll try your way with the next one.
Don't be afraid to use a spare head and start the paint job again if the head is damaged in a way you don't want to put up with. I use tweezers for maneuvering those things into place but ultimately have resigned to not subassembling or prepainting models like that, I'm simply not chasing a paint standard that needs that approach.
For fitting it in later, trimming the neck/ball helps, I wouldn't want to cut the neck armour/gorget as it is very visible, but it probably worked when you dry fit it because the glue on the body might have still had some flex so the neck opening may have stretched a bit to let it in.
To avoid the neck sinking down, I just stick an offcut of sprue in there as a spacer and slide the head in onto the top of that. A drop of plastic glue using a plastic glue with the needle dispenser will help fix it in place so he isn't a bobblehead.
The bottom half isn’t visible. You don’t need to cut it flush like the new terminator heads, just trim enough so that it will rotate back to upright after sliding in sideways. Just finished 6 of them.
I see you got it fixed already! Good stuff. Hope you can salvage the paint, because this looks pretty dang good. Here's my little tidbit, as an ex-subassembly painter myself: save the subassemblies for your centerpiece models and HQs. Especially if it's all the same color, like your guy here. I know it's daunting sometimes, but if you don't try it, you won't know! Maybe try it with just one dude from your next unit. If you hate it, you hate it.
Pros: saves hella time painting, what you can't see no one else will and you don't have to worry about uh-oh moments like this one. PLASTIC GLUE>super glue.
Cons: a little less reach for places, especially when priming and trying to get shadow in some recesses. Thanks for attending my Ted talk on unsolicited advice.
Thanks. I already learned my lesson with oversubassembly after painting a box of intercessors in complete subassembly. Took forever and sucked out the joy out of it. This one wasnt in subassembly, except the head. If the head is attached the eye paint job i do is horrible.
“aTAch it bEfOrE pAiNtIng”
Or he might be doing it separately because it’s way easier to do marine helmets nicely in subs, you delinquents.
Tweezers and a tiny dab of gorilla super glue gel is your easiest method. Mr. Cement SP-B, “B” being perfect as it’s black in color will flow into joints with the parts dry fit in place. Tweezer it to a good position, hold it there with your finger, dab SPB and it’s good to go.
I’m sorry this happened. I don’t get the comments telling you to “just assemble it before painting.” I have like 40 heads glued to toothpicks right now all sticking out of a foam pad like an astartes bust room. I despise painting heads on the model. Paint looks great btw I’m glad you got it in there and salvaged it.
Good emperor there’s a lot of drama in the comments over assembly then painting vs painting parts before assembling.
Here’s my suggestion. Stick some blunt tweezers in there and pull out the head. If the head’s ruined, which tends to happen with plastic glue on paint, well I’m sure aggressors come with spare heads right?
Only having to do a couple of them, I leave them mostly unassembled, use poster tack for masking the gluing surfaces, and paint in pieces before assembling.
What do you use to keep the torso together while painting? And what about the hands and the tubes and the backpack when you remove the back part later?
I don't I put the back pack on a wee bit of plastic stick.
I glue the backpack and all the cables and shit on too.
Then when I'm done j just glue the back on and use a cocktail stick and a literal drop of superglue to gle the cables into the hands
Agressors suck so much for sub assembly, I’ve ran into this exact problem twice, surprised I don’t learn my lesson the first time. I’ve actually began cutting away the cowls over their heads because they suck so bad
This was my first aggressor. I loved the model and looked forward to painting it, but this really killed the joy. Also the paint got scrached. Worst thing is, i actually tried dryfitting the head in there before assembly (i held the torso pieces together and tried pushing the head in) and it worked. But after painting i just couldnt fit it in anymore (probably because the surface wasnt smooth anymore)
I had the same issue with the Gravis Captain, slowly cut off bits off the ball joint of the neck, luckily the necks on gravis isn’t as noticeable. You should be able to push the head in once you’ve cut off enough, try to leave a little of the neck tho so there is good surface for the glue.
I always shave the head stump thingy on the bottom down, especially on gravis bois. It causes the head to sit a little lower, makes the ‘em look tankier, and I’ve never had a problem fitting it on the torso. The rebreather parts can fuck up the way the helmet sits tho, so you gotta be careful.
Yeah gravis armor is a pain if you like to paint heads separate. You’ll need to clip the attachment piece that connects the head to the neck slot and shave down the neck bit a bit. You’ll then need some rubber tipped tweezers to maneuver the head into position. Once you get the head passed the mask with the tweezers, it should be easy to adjust the head etc.
Yep, that's what I did. He looks like he's missinh a neck, like he took a hammer over the head. You know, Bugs Bunny style :D but its ok, I'll try better with thr next one
Throw it in the freezer for 6 hours and then pry it off with some elbow grease. Unless you used melting plastic glue. The rest of the glue will be compromised too and idk if the whole thing will fall apart or if it’ll reset if you let it sit for a day. But the freezer trick works.
It was a pain in the ass but I was able to get all mine in there and I painted them same as you, you have to insert the helmet on their sides and then I used a rubber tipped tweezer to kind of finagle them into their place. Just keep messing with it and use something firm but without a hard edge to fiddle them around until they seat into place
It's deathwatch, send it.
He was a reject brother his chapter made fun of before sending him off to the deathwatch, where he continues to be a running joke, known as "the best marksman"
I painted the torso in two pieces and assemble it all at the end because it is difficult to get the head in under their cowl thing.
Could try triming the bottom of the head to get it to fit. Only other thing is carefully breaking the torso back into two pieces.
Or find a smaller head, maybe a bare space marine head. They are smaller than the helmets and gravis heads so might fit.
Bumping this I just started building aggressors for Blood Angels and was hoping to do the heads seperately to get the helmet colour on easier. Clipped the unhelmed head nub and that sort of fits in when dry fitting. With the helmeted one I couldn’t easily with the bit clipped. Have resigned myself to making it a problem for later me and just stuck the head in.
So i finished painting my second agressor and i painted the head with no clipping. I primed and painted the head, completely. Edge highlights, finest details, everything. Next i took the torso (just the torso, without assembly) put the 2 pieces together and put some patafix on the places where the arms, legs and backpack would be glued. I primed the torso in black with chaos black spray (held it in hand, dont worry of the lower part isnt primed). Cover the primed part with abbadon black once and let it try. When dry, fully assemble the mini. Used superglue for the head, plastic glue for the rest (patafix protected the connection points from the spray). Now that its assembled, protect the head! I wrapped the head and upper (already primed) part in plastic foil. Prime the entire mini in black. Remove the plastic foil. Voila! Fully primed and properly assebmled aggressor
If I do that, how would I prime the body? Head painted and glued to an unprimed torso. If i prime the body pieces individually then I have to use superglue instead of plastic glue (not to mention how much time that would take)
Consider following the instructions and attaching it before painting
Eh, honestly for gravis pattern, paint helmets or heads before attaching.
I don’t understand why your comment has so many upvotes. It’s fairly common practice to paint in pieces and to assemble afterwards. And your borderline useless comment of “Follow the instructions” just makes you sound like a tool. Editing since people can’t seem to use common sense: it’s fairly common knowledge that subassembly painting happens within the hobby and community, even if you don’t do it personally. The fact that people are acting like it is a stupid idea or that OP was too dim to “ReAd InStRuCtIoNs” is blatantly rude and a bad look for the community, full stop. Stop acting like troglodytes and discouraging your fellow Astartes from embracing their pursuit of better miniatures. Why mock someone for striving for a higher standard? Come on.
It's only fairly common by people who tend to paint *way* above tabletop standard. Probably 90% if not 95% of painted models are painted fully assembled.
Doesn’t matter. OP has a nice paint job, they probably wanted to take their time and put care into it. It’s still not a foreign concept, even if you don’t do it. Pretty sure 90-95% of the community knows subassembly painting exists and isn’t a crazy idea.
You expressed confusion as to why there were so many upvotes, it was clarified for you and you're still not happy
Nice contribution, you’re really moving the conversation along. I expressed confusion on why such a rude and disingenuous comment of “follow the instructions” was so upvoted. I was confused on why the community has decided to have a big wank session over how clever they are for telling someone who tried to give their model the best paint job they could to follow the instructions. Have you ever bought a proxy? Done a kitbash or conversion? Congrats, you’re a fool for not following Games Workshops instructions. Pay for their overpriced plastic in full, dont do anything they wouldn’t 100% support or else you’re an absolute buffoon. GW tells you to use 30 different paints to paint a Salamander Aggressor, do you do it? Do you follow their instructions to the very end? Or do you take creative liberties in the name of striving for your personal goals? This shit is stupid, and you all should feel like complete asses for talking down to your fellow Astartes. Don’t be pricks and act like Papa GW knows best 100% of the time. Papa GW charges you over $1000 for a gunship. Papa GW destroys their own products to induce scarcity and keep prices high. They would steal your kidney and kick your dog if it meant they’d make an extra $5.
See now you're going from being an asshole to moral grandstanding, which is requiring you to make a lot of assumptions about me.
Attaching the head is assembly step #2 for all three aggressor poses. Maybe, just maybe, this is because they know they don't fit once the chest/back pieces are assembled... And therefore: following the instructions would have allowed OP to avoid their current situation.
It also would’ve made it harder to paint. Hindsight’s 20/20. OP saw that it was gonna be hard to paint and left it out to save themselves the trouble, sure it backfired in the end but it’s a lesson to be learned and grown from. The statements of “follow instructions” are disingenuous and people acting like they’re clever. OP built an aggressor, each set having 6 almost identical flamers. Each of which with an oddly shaped line running to them. How do you match those up without looking at the instructions? Without reading instructions how do you know that you can’t put the launchers on their backpacks? Like come on. It wasn’t ignorance, it was forethought that backfired.
You’ve missed the point here. Yes subassemblies are good. Especially for heads. But the Aggressor build has you attach the head to the front torso before attaching the rear torso at all. This is because the rear torso has an odd curved hood almost like the old Librarian armour, with the head nestled inside. By joining the torso halves together without the head, the space to put the head in is really small and fiddly. Not every kit lends itself to a headless build, now without forethought and planning at any rate.
Just like Fulgrim did :/
I’d say painting before assembling is way less common than the alternative, considering “grey armies” are a common problem in the hobby. I’d assume most people go for a rattle can primer or use thin layers to start, so they wouldn’t need the intensive work of making sure glue doesn’t ruin your models, as is evident with OP.
Glue didn’t ruin the model. Make sure you’re reading everything beforehand. Even if it isn’t common-practice, it’s common knowledge that it’s done within the community. No need to act like it’s a ridiculous idea or like someone’s an idiot for doing it and making a mistake.
Guy, you’re looking for insults where there are none. They scratched the paint on the head, and now it’s stuck after they fitted it. The glue is an issue aside from the paint, but you run the risk of ruining your paint job with the way some parts fit. I don’t care how you paint, but there’s easier ways to do some of it if you have challenges to finishing your model. You could put a dozen layers and washes on or slap up 4 colors, all that matters is that you’re comfortable with your end product.
I feel like it would be super hard to paint that way.
Don’t have to be pompous about it
*Before glueing* from the looks of it. If you glue that torso together on the agressors without that head in you either try your luck forcing it in (which seem like it went in, hes actually lucky I reckon) or youve gotta make some cuts. I actually made this mistake myself once.
Didnt put any glue on in the process here did you? Best bet is to pry it out and salvage what you can of the paint. I found with these I needed to trim the bottom of the head to squeeze it into the shroud the right way 😅
Thanks, you're the only one who was decent enough to provide some advice. There was no glue, the damn thing was just stuck on its own. I tried dryfitting before I even glued the torso together to make sure I could fit it afterwards, but when the time came... Anyhow, i did like you said, removed the "neck" and fitted the head in. Its a bit caved in now, but it looks ok. Thanks for the advice
Glad it worked out. I had the same problem with my gravis captain. Looks good until it finds that sweet spot to get stuck!
If you ever have joints that are a pain, (i also paint then assemble with some models) use green stuff! If you cant get green stuff to stick nobody can help you.
You’re supposed to attach it before painting
And some people don't so they can get a better paint job on the figurine, some people prefer not to attach them before painting, they prefer to paint them before attaching them to bases and if that works for them then that's fine.
Gotta make sure the pieces will actually fit after painting though...
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Well you would find it interesting that the instructions for all three aggressor poses have you put the head onto the front chest piece BEFORE attaching the back/hood portion... Seems like the instructions may be onto something in this case...
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Obviously OP had issues due to assembling the pieces in the incorrect order due to geometry issues because he didn't paint ALL of the pieces unassembled... OP had no issues with glue so I don't know why you're discussing glue.
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You are incorrect. I never mentioned anything about glue. If you're going to assemble some part of a structure in an order not intended by the designer, it is wise to make sure that your new order of operations is a valid one for assembling the structure. OP assembled the rest of the model but did not check that the head would fit when attached out of order. This issue is not uncommon for many heads with Librarian hoods for example.
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Because I like to.
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Because I like doing something that makes me a child, by your incredibly dense logic because you like playing 40k then you're a child, you're a fandan and it's hilarious that after 6 days that's the best you can come up with a reply. Lastly my mum? You're the fucking child who wants to tell on people are you?
I always paint my models before assembly, makes it so much easier to paint.
I say keep it as is, this poor marine just hasn’t had his chiropractic appointment with the apothecary yet
Lot of jackasses in here telling you to “follow instructions” like sub-assembly isn’t a super normal thing that lots of people do. Love to watch some of them try and paint a Skaven screaming bell without sub assembly. Brainlessly assembling the whole model is not always correct if you want to set yourself up for the best paint job you can manage. And I get why you’d do it with an Aggressor head there are gunna be parts that are in that danger zone of hard to paint but easy to see once the head is in there. Sadly I genuinely don’t have any advice. Probably just gunna have accept more damage to paint and model and just pry it head out with some tweezers. One piece of advice I would give for future sub-assembling is varnishing before hand. Helps protect your paint job why’ll your inevitably fiddling with the pieces. Especially since sub assembly usually requires super glueing parts instead of plastic glue, witch I find is much better at getting my fingers stuck together then any of my models. Best of luck mate paint job looks great love me some black-blue-silver.
Thanks man. I managed to pull the head out, cut off the neck and wedge it back in somehow. It aint perfect but it looks ok. Paint took a hit, but I'll just pretend its weathering. As for subassembly, i mean yeah, painting eyes is next to impossible for me of the head isnt separated. And I doubt I'm the only one who tried this with agressors
Was it super glue or plastic glue?
It was no glue, the damn thing is stuck on its own
Do you think your paint was wet?
No, no, it was physically stuck when I was dryfitting it. I managed to fix it, though the paintjob took some beating
Oh, lmao, he's just too chonky for his own good then? Glad you fixed it! Poor thing now gets to have an embarrassing backstory for his battle damage at least.
Haha, yeah. I guess that's one way to add weathering effect :D
Cut the bottom half of the neck ball and stick a lump of sticky tack attached to a dowel to the front of the face and use that maneuver it in. Practice each one a few times without any glue so you know how you need to do it before you do it live. Place the glue at the back and the rear floor of the helmet bubble.
Hm, that's good advice, thank you. I already cut the neck ball (completely) and used tweezers to wedge it in. Scrached some more paint and the head is now kinda caved in, but looks ok. I'll try your way with the next one.
Don't be afraid to use a spare head and start the paint job again if the head is damaged in a way you don't want to put up with. I use tweezers for maneuvering those things into place but ultimately have resigned to not subassembling or prepainting models like that, I'm simply not chasing a paint standard that needs that approach. For fitting it in later, trimming the neck/ball helps, I wouldn't want to cut the neck armour/gorget as it is very visible, but it probably worked when you dry fit it because the glue on the body might have still had some flex so the neck opening may have stretched a bit to let it in. To avoid the neck sinking down, I just stick an offcut of sprue in there as a spacer and slide the head in onto the top of that. A drop of plastic glue using a plastic glue with the needle dispenser will help fix it in place so he isn't a bobblehead.
Why the hell didnt I think of that? Thank you! I'll try that with the next one. Brother Shortneck has already been fixed and glued, i'm afraid.
The bottom half isn’t visible. You don’t need to cut it flush like the new terminator heads, just trim enough so that it will rotate back to upright after sliding in sideways. Just finished 6 of them.
THIS IS THE WAY.
I see you got it fixed already! Good stuff. Hope you can salvage the paint, because this looks pretty dang good. Here's my little tidbit, as an ex-subassembly painter myself: save the subassemblies for your centerpiece models and HQs. Especially if it's all the same color, like your guy here. I know it's daunting sometimes, but if you don't try it, you won't know! Maybe try it with just one dude from your next unit. If you hate it, you hate it. Pros: saves hella time painting, what you can't see no one else will and you don't have to worry about uh-oh moments like this one. PLASTIC GLUE>super glue. Cons: a little less reach for places, especially when priming and trying to get shadow in some recesses. Thanks for attending my Ted talk on unsolicited advice.
Thanks. I already learned my lesson with oversubassembly after painting a box of intercessors in complete subassembly. Took forever and sucked out the joy out of it. This one wasnt in subassembly, except the head. If the head is attached the eye paint job i do is horrible.
Mine was with dire avengers lmao. I feel ya, I be struggling with eye lenses also. I can see why you do it, the lenses in the picture looks great!
“aTAch it bEfOrE pAiNtIng” Or he might be doing it separately because it’s way easier to do marine helmets nicely in subs, you delinquents. Tweezers and a tiny dab of gorilla super glue gel is your easiest method. Mr. Cement SP-B, “B” being perfect as it’s black in color will flow into joints with the parts dry fit in place. Tweezer it to a good position, hold it there with your finger, dab SPB and it’s good to go.
What chapter is that?/s I've never seen anyone play that chapter.
Its Deathwatch. Not the most popular chapter :)
Sarcasm. Or at least the first bit was.
Well, tbh i was thinking of removing the DW shoulderpad and promoting the marine to the Broken Necks chapter, but it turned out alright in the end
There definitely needs to be more Deathwatch players. They're such a cool looking chapter.
I’m sorry this happened. I don’t get the comments telling you to “just assemble it before painting.” I have like 40 heads glued to toothpicks right now all sticking out of a foam pad like an astartes bust room. I despise painting heads on the model. Paint looks great btw I’m glad you got it in there and salvaged it.
You’ve heard of the Iron Hands, now get ready for the Rubber Necks! Glad you got it fixed
Bros neck got snapped but that ain’t gonna stop him purging xenos
Good emperor there’s a lot of drama in the comments over assembly then painting vs painting parts before assembling. Here’s my suggestion. Stick some blunt tweezers in there and pull out the head. If the head’s ruined, which tends to happen with plastic glue on paint, well I’m sure aggressors come with spare heads right?
Who tickled his neck?
Scraching an itch is hard with powerfists on. Good thing the itch was on the neck :D
The aggressors head looks like Stewie Griffin when Brian asks a really inappropriate question lmao.
You should add some tweezers or thin tongs to your hobby toolkit! They save my life anytime there’s an awkward connection of bits
"By the Emperor, a penny!"
Only having to do a couple of them, I leave them mostly unassembled, use poster tack for masking the gluing surfaces, and paint in pieces before assembling.
Thanks for the heads up. I keep forgetting about this and just got my first set of Agressors. Good luck getting him out!
It's a good look ngl take more than a broken neck to slow down an Astartes
Honestly, I’m just glad I’m not alone! Gravis heads are a pain
A pain in the neck :D
Feel your pain. I usually leave the back of the torso unglued
What do you use to keep the torso together while painting? And what about the hands and the tubes and the backpack when you remove the back part later?
I don't I put the back pack on a wee bit of plastic stick. I glue the backpack and all the cables and shit on too. Then when I'm done j just glue the back on and use a cocktail stick and a literal drop of superglue to gle the cables into the hands
BROTHER I CAN'T SEE SHIT IN THIS HELMET!
HELP BROTHER... YES, I KNOW YOU HAVE TINNITUS...
I like him like that
Agressors suck so much for sub assembly, I’ve ran into this exact problem twice, surprised I don’t learn my lesson the first time. I’ve actually began cutting away the cowls over their heads because they suck so bad
This was my first aggressor. I loved the model and looked forward to painting it, but this really killed the joy. Also the paint got scrached. Worst thing is, i actually tried dryfitting the head in there before assembly (i held the torso pieces together and tried pushing the head in) and it worked. But after painting i just couldnt fit it in anymore (probably because the surface wasnt smooth anymore)
I had the same issue with the Gravis Captain, slowly cut off bits off the ball joint of the neck, luckily the necks on gravis isn’t as noticeable. You should be able to push the head in once you’ve cut off enough, try to leave a little of the neck tho so there is good surface for the glue.
I always shave the head stump thingy on the bottom down, especially on gravis bois. It causes the head to sit a little lower, makes the ‘em look tankier, and I’ve never had a problem fitting it on the torso. The rebreather parts can fuck up the way the helmet sits tho, so you gotta be careful.
Ultimate one-liner: "You are fired"
Yeah gravis armor is a pain if you like to paint heads separate. You’ll need to clip the attachment piece that connects the head to the neck slot and shave down the neck bit a bit. You’ll then need some rubber tipped tweezers to maneuver the head into position. Once you get the head passed the mask with the tweezers, it should be easy to adjust the head etc.
Wow, spicy thread guys! 🍿
hm maybe if you remove the neck piece of the helmet, it will make it shorter and then easier to fit in
Yep, that's what I did. He looks like he's missinh a neck, like he took a hammer over the head. You know, Bugs Bunny style :D but its ok, I'll try better with thr next one
maybe you could also trim off a little bit of that thing that is above his head (never painted aggressors so I don't know the proper name)
Throw it in the freezer for 6 hours and then pry it off with some elbow grease. Unless you used melting plastic glue. The rest of the glue will be compromised too and idk if the whole thing will fall apart or if it’ll reset if you let it sit for a day. But the freezer trick works.
Cool, I had no idea the freezer weakens superglue. Thanks!
Build the model, then paint it.
Bit aggressive...
It was a pain in the ass but I was able to get all mine in there and I painted them same as you, you have to insert the helmet on their sides and then I used a rubber tipped tweezer to kind of finagle them into their place. Just keep messing with it and use something firm but without a hard edge to fiddle them around until they seat into place
Shit, I can't wait to paint mines!
He's just a little different don't make fun of his disabilities!
Tweezer mishap? Or finger slip? I’m sorry 😢
Congrats, your Aggressor Sgt now has one of the half helmeted heads instead!
It's deathwatch, send it. He was a reject brother his chapter made fun of before sending him off to the deathwatch, where he continues to be a running joke, known as "the best marksman"
Reason why they gave him flamethrowers - they always hit :D
It's all coming together for a good story
The jolt of taking off may have given him a slighhhhhhhht neck injury
Could try using a pair of tweezers to gently hold it in place while the glue dries
I painted the torso in two pieces and assemble it all at the end because it is difficult to get the head in under their cowl thing. Could try triming the bottom of the head to get it to fit. Only other thing is carefully breaking the torso back into two pieces. Or find a smaller head, maybe a bare space marine head. They are smaller than the helmets and gravis heads so might fit.
I can’t suggest much to do other than name him „Travis the side eyer of justice“, you are free to edit the name as you please.
Bumping this I just started building aggressors for Blood Angels and was hoping to do the heads seperately to get the helmet colour on easier. Clipped the unhelmed head nub and that sort of fits in when dry fitting. With the helmeted one I couldn’t easily with the bit clipped. Have resigned myself to making it a problem for later me and just stuck the head in.
So i finished painting my second agressor and i painted the head with no clipping. I primed and painted the head, completely. Edge highlights, finest details, everything. Next i took the torso (just the torso, without assembly) put the 2 pieces together and put some patafix on the places where the arms, legs and backpack would be glued. I primed the torso in black with chaos black spray (held it in hand, dont worry of the lower part isnt primed). Cover the primed part with abbadon black once and let it try. When dry, fully assemble the mini. Used superglue for the head, plastic glue for the rest (patafix protected the connection points from the spray). Now that its assembled, protect the head! I wrapped the head and upper (already primed) part in plastic foil. Prime the entire mini in black. Remove the plastic foil. Voila! Fully primed and properly assebmled aggressor
Looks like he’s trying to get water out of his ear
It’s almost like following the directions could have really saved you a big headache Don’t blame the aggressor for your screw up.
You’re a bad person and I hope you recover from whatever hurt you.
Oh no, I told the truth! I’m so horrible!
Yeah, well some of us are very new to the hobby and have a hard time painting eyes and such without subassembly
…so paint the head first and then build the torso around it…critical thinking is helpful
If I do that, how would I prime the body? Head painted and glued to an unprimed torso. If i prime the body pieces individually then I have to use superglue instead of plastic glue (not to mention how much time that would take)
Like I said critical thinking. It’s really not that hard to figure out.
If so, then please do a step-by-step
Maybe y’all aren’t smart enough to play this game?
Prove your point and show a step-by-step of you doing it
Lmao dumbasses are always entitled as hell. Figure it out yourself
Nah, still don’t believe it. Prove it yourself