>The Berlin Gold Hat is the best preserved specimen among the four known conical golden hats from Bronze Age Europe so far. Of the three others, two were found in southern Germany, and one in the west of France. All were found in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is generally assumed that the hats served as the insignia of deities or priests in the context of a sun cult that appears to have been widespread in Central Europe at the time. The hats are also suggested to have served astronomical/calendrical functions.
That's the weight of a regular wooden violin
No way it would weigh that if it was made out of gold. It would be over 20 times the weight (if it was made of an equivalent volume of mass)
They were probably worn by some high class individual only during ceremonial occasions, to show it to crowds. Thats also one of the reasons why they were so big
[Similar hats are still in use actually](https://ogden_images.s3.amazonaws.com/www.ljworld.com/images/2008/04/22174151/pwe_pope_attire_2k_col_4-16.jpg)
The hat is also a calendar
> A detailed study of the Berlin example, which is the only one fully preserved, showed that the symbols probably represent a lunisolar calendar. The object would have permitted the determination of dates or periods in both lunar and solar calendars.[1][2]
>The functions discovered so far would permit the counting of temporal units of up 57 months. A simple multiplication of such values would also permit the calculation of longer periods, such as metonic cycles. Each symbol, or each ring of a symbol, represents a single day. Apart from ornament bands incorporating differing numbers of rings there are special symbols and zones in intercalary areas, which would have had to be added to or subtracted from the periods in question.
Sun Cult is pretty based actually, if you're gonna have a religion worshipping something, it might as well be the celestial body responsible for sustaining life on Earth. Almost a sort of proto-scientific naturalism.
Always believed the same thing about Akhnaten. That guy was on to something, just the world wasn't ready for it
My understanding is that many anthropologists don't really differentiate between a "cult" and "religion" other than "cult" is often used to refer to smaller, newer, less organized faiths, not as a pejorative. Some religious scholars even use the term "new religious movement" to refer to what we call "cults" in the modern world (scientology for instance), the implication being that every religion essentially starts as what we would consider a cult.
Oh, the word “cult” in all is pejorative glory should be used on any group that has a motive other than an exploration of faith. Apply that notion to any established religions if you like.
Modernity or how new a group is has nothing to do with if it's called a cult. The main difference between cult and religion is that cults claim secret knowledge that you have to join to gain such as ancient Mystery Cults, Scientology, or the Freemasons, though arguably all religions fall into this definition. The difference between cult and religion only serves for mainstream religions to put down other groups.
Fancy hats must truly be some sort of innate human cultural universal.
Hundreds of thousands of years from now, our descendants will live in ways that would be utterly incomprehensible to us; and yet, they will still give big, shiny head coverings to those they deem particularly worthy of honor.
I agree with your point, but I think even 500 years from now our descents will live in ways that are utterly incomprehensible to us. Maybe even less time. The world is changing so fast.
50 years from now we will all be old and cursing at the mysterious ways of the Beta boys
-btw I really hope the generation after alpha gets called beta
Some orcas apparently used to wear dead fish as hats for a while (although it's difficult to find the actual source for this story), so it's not just humans.
Is the artist proposing that the wearer is an ancestor of Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome; or that Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome, is immortal?
It said they found 3 of these hats.... these are the owners:
https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Why-SNL-first-movie-failed-Coneheads.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1140&h=&dpr=1.5
The fact this thing is preserved so well despite being made of gold leaf is insane. Would have been incredibly easy for it to end up crushed into something unrecognizable.
From quite far down the wiki article - "The good preservation of the cone suggests that, like the Schifferstadt example, it must have been carefully filled with soil or ashes and then buried upright in relatively fine soil."
Best guess is it was intentionally buried in a way that preserved it.
It's also not as thin of gold leaf as we would be able to make today (for fancy desserts) but still very impressive. I've seen it a few weeks ago in berlin, it's pretty interesting!
Interesting that they were not crushed in accidents or melted down over the 3000 years they were just sitting around. Be they have some interesting stories to tell if they could.
Modern religions don’t want us to look at sun worshiping cults at all. The sun is the most powerful force in our solar system and and brought life to earth.
That’s IS what all ancient peoples revelation they came too. The sun is the source of all the energy and gravity. It IS god. The sun the flying through space around the Sagittarius A and we’re all following it.
All you have to do is spend one cold, sleepless night in the woods. Shivering, too cold to do anything but shiver. Wide awake. Hearing all the strange noises, whatever goes bump in the night in the immense yawning darkness that stretches around you in every direction.. then, eventually, the sun emerges, giving you both the heat and the light. It's not hard to see why ancient people worshipped the sun.
> The sun is the source of all the energy and gravity.
The sun is not the source of all gravity, it's not even the source of the majority of the gravity acting on you right now--that's the Earth. It's not even the second greatest source of gravity acting on you, individually, right now--the Moon.
Gravity falls off dramatically over distance. The Newtonian equation is Fg=G(m1m2)/r^2. Even though the Sun is huge, the distance is even greater than that. It's why lunar tidal differences are so much greater than solar tidal differences (which do exist).
Apologies for the sloppy formatting of the equation.
Bronze Age Northern Europe had very advanced and rich metallurgy traditions for the time, the Nordic Bronze Age culture being the most prominent example of this.
These golden hats are attributed to the Urnfeld(or late Tumulus) culture though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urnfield_culture
Fun read.
This thing’s existence just *screams* for an appropriately zany villain to come steal it and then wear it while taunting a gathering of world leaders at the UN via video feed.
Fuck, the line from wiki saying that there were sun cults in Central Europe at the time just got me so excited. What’s a good book, for a casual history fan, about Europe during the Bronze Age??
The thing is, this hat would be so insanely difficult to make at the time, and with the symbolism engraved in it as well as the way it was carefully preserved and buried and also hidden, it is pretty likely that it was used for religious purposes
well, what you call "religion" was what these guys thought about daily. "who am I and why is any of this happening to me?" was a constant question and the use of "religion" was their way to rationalize it.
>The Berlin Gold Hat is the best preserved specimen among the four known conical golden hats from Bronze Age Europe so far. Of the three others, two were found in southern Germany, and one in the west of France. All were found in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is generally assumed that the hats served as the insignia of deities or priests in the context of a sun cult that appears to have been widespread in Central Europe at the time. The hats are also suggested to have served astronomical/calendrical functions.
Were the hats worn on the head or just ornamental?
“Wouldn’t a solid gold fiddle sound crummy and weigh hundreds of pounds?”
Not if you rosin up your bow.
Umm. How does one play that fiddle hard? Asking for a friend.
First you insert the bow.
Go on…
Well it’s mostly for show
You hit a sour note about 200 years back, Doug.
Time for the drum solo.
Wikipedia says 490g
I’m gonna need that in American terms. What’s the equivalent weight in handguns/whoppers/wheatgrass
4 quarter pounders
With or without cheese
Hmm I'm not totally sure. I'd have to do the Muenster math.
It was a gruyere graph
*Fucking Exceptional*
🎶 He did the math... 🎶
This should be the most upvoted comment ever.
It took your comment for me to read it again and go "oooooooooooh". Yeah that's pretty good.
That pun is an onion, it's got layers! A punion, if you will.
With cheese. You know why they call it the Royale with Cheese and not a quarter pounder, right? Because it's 490g.
So just a pounder
Pounder? I hardly know her!
Approximately four frozen, uncooked Whopper patties.
2½ football fields
The turf of 2.5 football fields would weigh about 10.6 million lbs.
That's the weight of a regular wooden violin No way it would weigh that if it was made out of gold. It would be over 20 times the weight (if it was made of an equivalent volume of mass)
Shut up and take my money.
They were probably worn by some high class individual only during ceremonial occasions, to show it to crowds. Thats also one of the reasons why they were so big
I believe it was [the postmaster general](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_Money)
Appreciate the discworld reference. Gotta get back to those.
GNU Sir Terry
[Similar hats are still in use actually](https://ogden_images.s3.amazonaws.com/www.ljworld.com/images/2008/04/22174151/pwe_pope_attire_2k_col_4-16.jpg)
Their king in the pointy hat what sits on his throne in Rome!
The hat is also a calendar > A detailed study of the Berlin example, which is the only one fully preserved, showed that the symbols probably represent a lunisolar calendar. The object would have permitted the determination of dates or periods in both lunar and solar calendars.[1][2] >The functions discovered so far would permit the counting of temporal units of up 57 months. A simple multiplication of such values would also permit the calculation of longer periods, such as metonic cycles. Each symbol, or each ring of a symbol, represents a single day. Apart from ornament bands incorporating differing numbers of rings there are special symbols and zones in intercalary areas, which would have had to be added to or subtracted from the periods in question.
One prominent theory is that the hats served as a lunar/solar calendar conversion tool as societies moved to sun-centric time tracking.
They’re actually not hats but rather the game pieces for Cones of Dunshire
The Four Conical Golden Hats from the Bronze Age, sound like legendary artifacts from a videogame. I bet they boost Magic and HP to the highest level.
I demand an Indiana Jones and the Four Golden Hats immediately.
But in secret, another hat was made…
Sun cult feels so pejorative, like if you have a four foot tall golden hat, then you have a religion on your hands.
Sun Cult is pretty based actually, if you're gonna have a religion worshipping something, it might as well be the celestial body responsible for sustaining life on Earth. Almost a sort of proto-scientific naturalism. Always believed the same thing about Akhnaten. That guy was on to something, just the world wasn't ready for it
My understanding is that many anthropologists don't really differentiate between a "cult" and "religion" other than "cult" is often used to refer to smaller, newer, less organized faiths, not as a pejorative. Some religious scholars even use the term "new religious movement" to refer to what we call "cults" in the modern world (scientology for instance), the implication being that every religion essentially starts as what we would consider a cult.
Oh, the word “cult” in all is pejorative glory should be used on any group that has a motive other than an exploration of faith. Apply that notion to any established religions if you like.
Modernity or how new a group is has nothing to do with if it's called a cult. The main difference between cult and religion is that cults claim secret knowledge that you have to join to gain such as ancient Mystery Cults, Scientology, or the Freemasons, though arguably all religions fall into this definition. The difference between cult and religion only serves for mainstream religions to put down other groups.
brb ordering a tall gold hat for my boss so our company can get tax-exempt status.
That's the ticket! Don't forget the robes and the inexplicable bigotry!
Is there explicable bigotry?
The fourth was found in the U.S. by Joseph Smith. /s
Nobody tell Matt Berry
“You took it, by force, from me, in New York Citaaaay”
"The most deeviouus baaastaard in NNEEWWWW YOOORK CIIIITAAAAY"
FUCKS SAKE LAZLO THAT STUPID BLOODY HAT HAS A STUPID BLOODY CURSE ON IT
FUH-KING GUY
Fuck off, I have no need of your cheap sex potions.
whats the reference? Fan of Matt Berry.
What We Do in the Shadows
What's that puckering I feel back there? That's the witch's asshole.
Or the entirely separate person, regular human bartender Jackie Daytona from Tucson, Arizonya
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatWeDointheShadows/s/By05xeM0Gx We have this in Tucson at 191 Toole. Thought you might enjoy.
It belongs to my uncle Seamus. He drunkenly left it behind in a Munich beer garden 36 years ago.
Fancy hats must truly be some sort of innate human cultural universal. Hundreds of thousands of years from now, our descendants will live in ways that would be utterly incomprehensible to us; and yet, they will still give big, shiny head coverings to those they deem particularly worthy of honor.
I agree with your point, but I think even 500 years from now our descents will live in ways that are utterly incomprehensible to us. Maybe even less time. The world is changing so fast.
Yes, but fancy hats... fancy hats never change.
Tarnish notte the majesty of my TOWER of HAT.
50 years from now we will all be old and cursing at the mysterious ways of the Beta boys -btw I really hope the generation after alpha gets called beta
kids these days, amirite?
Some orcas apparently used to wear dead fish as hats for a while (although it's difficult to find the actual source for this story), so it's not just humans.
Google 1980s orcas wearing salmon hats. You will find the info you're looking for.
In the spring time we’d make meat helmets
I hope we get some wild spacesuit fashion once space travel becomes ubiquitous. I’m thinking space helmets with giant LED cowboy hats
[Here's an artist's recreation of the hat's former owner.](https://i.postimg.cc/05VyGKLr/Ulqzhfv6j6g21.png)
Wow! Looks straight out of a sci-fi movie
Man the fact that i had to scroll to see his face made that way funnier
Ah yes, Dieter Düsseldome, owner of the Düsseldorf Düsseldome
i laughed way too hard at this haha, thank you for that
Found in a place that was known as Dimagermany.
Dimmadeutschland
You just had to do it to ‘em didn’t you. Dumped that dude’s comment straight into a dimmaditch
He don't give a dimmadamn.
Is the artist proposing that the wearer is an ancestor of Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome; or that Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome, is immortal?
It said they found 3 of these hats.... these are the owners: https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Why-SNL-first-movie-failed-Coneheads.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1140&h=&dpr=1.5
One *was* found in France.
Lmao. I was hoping for this and would've been severely disappointed if you linked anything else.
Oh sorry, that‘s mine! I lost it somewhere sometime ago.
That’s a common and enduring myth. It’s actually mine
Private property? No, it's *ours*. That hat is a nationalized asset of *our* nation.
The fact this thing is preserved so well despite being made of gold leaf is insane. Would have been incredibly easy for it to end up crushed into something unrecognizable.
From quite far down the wiki article - "The good preservation of the cone suggests that, like the Schifferstadt example, it must have been carefully filled with soil or ashes and then buried upright in relatively fine soil." Best guess is it was intentionally buried in a way that preserved it.
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It really is insane. It only we could tell that person they succeeded
It's also not as thin of gold leaf as we would be able to make today (for fancy desserts) but still very impressive. I've seen it a few weeks ago in berlin, it's pretty interesting!
Kinda reminds me of Rennala's hat from Elden Ring
Was gonna say the Gold Ardeo, Bloodborne
I think that is Doug Dimmadome’s hat. If you don’t already know, he is the owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome.
The Doug Dimmadome owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome
[DougsDaleDimmaDaleDimmaDimmsDomeDoDiDomeDimmsDimmaDimmaDome](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts5af0aFcuw)
I'm sorry, the fuck? I was able to watch that video just a couple of months ago, now someone has had the audacity to copyright strike it?
Welcome to the death of creativity on the internet.
No, I Dimmadidn't know that
Just my luck! I get great seats for the annual human sacrifice and wind up sitting behind this guy!
Interesting that they were not crushed in accidents or melted down over the 3000 years they were just sitting around. Be they have some interesting stories to tell if they could.
It mentions in the article it was probably intentionally buried in a way that preserved it. Maybe to avoid all the hat thieves.
All hat no cattle.
... but what a hat.
I like that they know how old it is but not how long ago they found it
What is this, the high hat? I'M SICK OF THE HIGH HAT! Youse fancy pants, all a youse.
I think it belongs to Moist Von Lipwig? ;-)
Needs wings for him
Modern religions don’t want us to look at sun worshiping cults at all. The sun is the most powerful force in our solar system and and brought life to earth.
It does seem like a pretty solid candidate for worship
It is one of the few things I can actually wrap my head around why it would have been worshipped.
I mean, we can see it and it doesn't tell us we can't fuck before marriage, so praise the sun.
If only *I* could be so grossly incandescent.
Joe Pesci is on par. At least according to George Carlin.
"I worship the sun. But I don't pray to the sun...I pray to Joe Pesci. He's a guy who can get things done"
Is this why I go to the beach more than church?
It giveth, it taketh away.
and I think most importantly...I can see it
Praise Sol
Starting at 13:10 should be interesting to you: * https://youtu.be/LPhANpsR1gM?si=0jADAwG01yM00XSL&t=790
You are kind of blowing my mind right now (I am a little high though so not too difficult)…but what if the Sun is God.
That’s IS what all ancient peoples revelation they came too. The sun is the source of all the energy and gravity. It IS god. The sun the flying through space around the Sagittarius A and we’re all following it.
A lesser god then, but orbiting the greater god, Black Hole, the god of destruction.
All praise the Holy Hole.
Vagittarius A
All you have to do is spend one cold, sleepless night in the woods. Shivering, too cold to do anything but shiver. Wide awake. Hearing all the strange noises, whatever goes bump in the night in the immense yawning darkness that stretches around you in every direction.. then, eventually, the sun emerges, giving you both the heat and the light. It's not hard to see why ancient people worshipped the sun.
> The sun is the source of all the energy and gravity. The sun is not the source of all gravity, it's not even the source of the majority of the gravity acting on you right now--that's the Earth. It's not even the second greatest source of gravity acting on you, individually, right now--the Moon. Gravity falls off dramatically over distance. The Newtonian equation is Fg=G(m1m2)/r^2. Even though the Sun is huge, the distance is even greater than that. It's why lunar tidal differences are so much greater than solar tidal differences (which do exist). Apologies for the sloppy formatting of the equation.
Chaos Dwarf vibes.
HASHUT! HASHUT! HASHUT!
It's funny because it's bigger than a normal sized hat
Great reference. Now I'm going to have to go and watch all the SNL celebrity jeopardy eps on YouTube.
That’s not a hat….
Magic Man
Hey, I saw that hat a couple of days ago! Apparently it has a bunch of mathematical and astronomical information encoded in the patterns
Bronze Age Northern Europe had very advanced and rich metallurgy traditions for the time, the Nordic Bronze Age culture being the most prominent example of this. These golden hats are attributed to the Urnfeld(or late Tumulus) culture though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urnfield_culture Fun read.
Phallic symbols, phallic symbols everywhere!!
Flared bottom too 👀
>Berliner Goldhut Forget the hat, that's a banger name.
Oh I don't have a big enough helmet to negotiate with this guy
This thing’s existence just *screams* for an appropriately zany villain to come steal it and then wear it while taunting a gathering of world leaders at the UN via video feed.
Praise the sun
There is a whole episode of Ancient Aliens dedicated to this hat and other objects.
Fuck, the line from wiki saying that there were sun cults in Central Europe at the time just got me so excited. What’s a good book, for a casual history fan, about Europe during the Bronze Age??
Bronze age really fascinates me. Many things happened before the greek and roman civilizations and besides the egyptians
Deutsch Dimmadome, owner of the Deutschland Dimmadome?
look more like mobi dick
I feel like there's a Mormon joke in here somewhere
I love this!!
Anythings a dildo if your brave enough.
Hypothetically how much could the hat sell for?
Ancient astronaut theory suggests it was ALIENS!
One hat to rule them all.
That's a gold hat, cool cat.
Dawi Zharr are from Germany?? That makes a lot of sense, actually, damn.
Are they sure it wasn’t a trophy earned for beating your rivaling neighbor in some annual sporting event?
TIMMY TURNER, MY NAME IS
Thats clearly slash's first hat
I remember hearing about this from [The Pharoah Nerd](https://www.youtube.com/@thepharaohnerd7235).
And yet they say wizards aren't real
Oh, and it might track astronomical events.
Hmmm, double king anyone?
Ancient Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Ancient Dimsdale Dimmadome
Maybe it was like the Stanley Cup of priestly hats. Every time they successfully predicted something they got a new hoop added on.
Der Dimmsdale Dimmadome
1) that's not a hat 2) wash your hands
butt plug
It's funny that if we don't know what something is for we just default to religion. Maybe it was just a status symbol or fashion, you know?
"ritual purposes" doing a lot of work
The thing is, this hat would be so insanely difficult to make at the time, and with the symbolism engraved in it as well as the way it was carefully preserved and buried and also hidden, it is pretty likely that it was used for religious purposes
It wasn't a default. Read the general "gold hats" article. There's a lot of reasons why scholars think it was associated with a sun cult.
well, what you call "religion" was what these guys thought about daily. "who am I and why is any of this happening to me?" was a constant question and the use of "religion" was their way to rationalize it.
It’s a calendar
Gandalf has returned
Oh that is where I left that.
Gryffindor!
My bad... that's mine. I completely forgot that I left it in Germany. 3000 years ago.
Gee, thanks guys, that's mine. Family heritage. Now kindly return it to me.
Beldar
so sick
Drip
You not give smoked fish to lovely lady even though you say you pay for sex? Maybe Rabbit-fur Grak bash you with rock!
This was awarded to the best ice hockey team every year
Guess they found it some time LESS than three thousand years ago…
Looks like a Item you would get in Elden ring that would give you extra runes. your head would be completely covered by the bottom bit.
It couldn't be more than 3,000 years let's start there
Btw. It looks like a rocket ship …
That def [boosts your magic](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Queen%27s+Crescent+Crown).
NWH is gonna have to bust a cap in someone’s ass
...did F. Scott Fitzgerald know about this?
Joyboy...
745mm tall and an average material thickness of 0.6mm That's impressive!!
Magic man!