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iilsun

It’s okay to not like every single thing they put out


edrdmunoz

This should apply to every artist in general. For top I only don't like around 2 songs tho


lilbond

i agree… also what two. spill!


edrdmunoz

Friend, please and before you start your day. That's another opinion to be in chains like the image, I guess.


SuperTommyD0g

Friend, please is one of my favourites, probably because one my friends is suicidal and has tried (and luckily failed) a few times.


No-Door9005

I feel so bad for you a girl from my school (which I didn't know personally) commited suicide and another girl from my hometown which I used to go in English classes with tried and failed and I felt bad for both of them I can't imagine my friend being suicidal it would be terrible


boonlessrun

Not liking friend please is wild but ok


edrdmunoz

It's a beautiful powerful song lyrically but it doesn't stick with me.


AcanthocephalaVast40

Backslide is nice, but it didn’t hook me like overcompensate and next semester did, those songs are on repeat for a whole day


tikt0kth0t

that’s so funny because backslide is now my new fav song from them. it’s so funny how everyone has such different opinions


Darknessmaster6500

Fr, i'm not a big fan of nect semster but backslide if fire imo


Disastrous_Lemon_219

Hard agree. I like next semester, but it’s not my favorite song ever


21msgm

you can be a FAN fan and not know every single thing about the lore. or even barely know about it


Thierry_rat

I’ve been a fan for 10 years, been to a concert, know every song by heart…. And I still don’t know any lore. I’m not into band lore except for ghost and even that I don’t know much about


EmmyFluff

Absolutely this. I didn't truly discover the lore until SAI. It absolutely elevated my appreciation of the music, but tøp became my favorite band even before I realized there was a super cool extra layer of story behind it. Also anybody else a fan of Coheed and Cambria's Afterman album? I was hooked on that one for a while for the story. I think that's part of the reason finding the lore for tøp after that increased my love for their music exponentially. Not only is it my favorite music, it now has a compelling, vaguely sci-fi/fantasy dystopian fiction behind it? Yes please.


snowdropfreak

THANK YOU! Back then I always feel left out because of having little knowledge about the fandoms I joined(like how I don’t know the members of a band or lore). Now, as long as I love their music and just appreciate their existence, that’s enough to consider.


edrdmunoz

Tyler is not worried about leaks and SAI era is deeply underappreciated. Some songs sounded great with the band.


Phelanthropy

Level of Concern, and Saturday go so hard with Sky on bass 🫠🫠🫠


edrdmunoz

I also like him in Shy Away. I knew him from Issues and I loved his time on TOP as well.


Unknown_SoundZs

I Love sai!! I do think he cares a little about leaks every artist does it’s just not fun when your album gets “released” when you don’t want it too.


mriyaland

SAI band was amazing honestly


MC-Mantt

I love formidable formidable is amazing


Dorito_Deww

I agree! Tho it hurts to listen to lol. The first time I listened to it, my ex had broken up with me the day before and I'd bought SAI on vinyl and played the album for the first time and cried my eyes out when I heard Formidable. Low-key think that song changed me lmao


CapitalFlounder8699

i'm really sorry you had to go through that. i hope you're better now. best of luck to you.


yourninthsymphony

one might even say it's...formidable


OhKayGetAwayFromMe

Y’all worship the guys way too much (speaking mostly to the fans on twitter)


Unknown_SoundZs

Nah they just super hypocritical and annoying but yes also way too obsessive and bitchy


NourEldin21P

I'm not active on Twitter but the dudes on Reddit always downvote for saying I don't like SAI.


lowellla

Not liking SAI is fine it’s just a negative opinion that comes up often. So naturally people start defending it. (I never listened to it until last month)


FuraFaolox

i used to be active in the community on twitter years ago. the fans there were insufferable.


lew_the_hacker

The cult like obsessive fans are the worst


anadaws

Valid in all fandoms 100%


realKingCarrot_v2

All fandoms behave like cults. There's a difference between the fanbase and the fandom. I'm a fan of TØP, I'm NOT a clicky.


lew_the_hacker

I know, I’m also a star wars fan 😭


SaltyCharacter6889

Saying regional at best is your favorite album doesn’t make you cool


ilovejor0827

W opinion


-E-L-Y-K-

I think it is personally but idc if I’m cool or not


NourEldin21P

Forest is the only song I love from Regional at Best.


Equal-Plate597

Kitchen sinks good too, not a favorite, but it's good


wsoxfan1214

Man, I love Glowing Eyes and Kitchen Sink too.


Unknown_SoundZs

Bars!! Has some good songs but let’s be honest that album was dog shit has some horrid sounding songs I get why Tyler didn’t officially release it although I would love some redos of certain songs (ruby, glowing eyes, slow town, kitchen sink) those ones are pretty good


JuniorReward2811

We dont believe whats on tv is one of the best tracks on blurrryface, it sounds authentic, has cute lyrics and has a great bassline


braedog97

My grandma wants my brother and I to sing it at her funeral


Sharpeieo

Christmas saves the year is underrated


PlasmidEve

Having attended the smaller shows does not make you superior. 


Glittering_Comfort50

It does make sad that not everyone got to experience them that way. They were exactly like the Backslide MV.


thawry88

You mean next semester?


Glittering_Comfort50

Yes


No-Concept6105

Christmas Saves the Year is S tier


Chunky-overlord

My man🤜


Alacrout

Possibly their most underrated song, though Saturday puts up a big fight


herbuck

I’m sorry but clikkies is such a cringy word. You can just say “The Clique” or you know, “fans”.


Consistent_Yak_2648

Should I go for more clicks this year or should I follow the clique from twenty one pilots


AboMinAblE_P00P83

AJR reference spotted? 👀


Consistent_Yak_2648

AJR is just Jewish Twenty One Pilots if twenty one pilots just did scaled and Icy with a little bit of vessel mixed in. Also AJR is Jewish my chemical romance


AnonRedac

AJR is Jewish? news to me


Consistent_Yak_2648

I don't think they are practicing


AnonRedac

If they have shows coming up they should probably practice, doing things unprepared is a bad idea!


ID_TOP_1R_Fan

Omg I don't know you but I like you so much dear TØP and AJR fan you are blessed with your music taste


Consistent_Yak_2648

I also like dream theater so my music taste is probably supreme


destocot

Always wished the fandom name was Local Dreamers, but oh well.


zkls61

I'm kinda new in some stuff, but do you guys can explain to me, why the name "clique" for the fans?


herbuck

I actually don’t know the origin! But the band does refer to their fans as The Clique, for example in Fairly Local the lyric “even if my Clique were to pick and my people were to vote”


zkls61

Oh, i never notice that, i'm not a native english speaker, so for me is more difficult to understand, but now i see. Thanks for the explanation!!


herbuck

No problem! Just to explain a little more, usually clique is a close group of friends that doesn’t let anyone in and maybe thinks they are better than people outside the group. But twenty one pilots is purposely using it as a positive thing instead.


JuniorReward2811

Stressed out is extremely over-hated by the fans. If it didnt blow up, people would say is one of the best tracks on blurryface (because it is). And its way better than songs like polarize or (i'm gonna get downvoted ) hometown


Unknown_SoundZs

This same with heathens I genuinely think their amazing songs and are way too over hated just because they blew up doesn’t mean they’re bad. I get so much hate when I say heathens is in my top 5 of songs, and there’s no reason for the hate I get besides that it’s “popular”


OneAnxiousEnby

No but this is totally true. (I do really like hometown though bc of personal life applications)


_Lowenstein_

Next Semester is god tier Just kidding Everyone knows that


eVCqN

You’ve got ulterior motives


Competitive_Spell531

tell me the truth


eVCqN

Let’s go I was hoping someone would get it


eiconik

Their non-lore songs are better than the songs that are clearly lore-driven. This is why I prefer all albums before Trench over Trench and SAI.


Unknown_SoundZs

There’s like only maybe 4 songs I can think of that are fully lore driven. The rest can just be applied to lore but you wouldn’t be able to tell if there was lore on those songs if we didn’t know it existed. Valid tho💯


eiconik

You know what, I'm thinking more about it now and I think my actual reason for liking the songs/albums more pre- Trench is because now, everyone MAKES every song about the lore. I think that's my frustration.


Unknown_SoundZs

Yeah totally could be I even heard people trying to force next semester into a lore based song when in actuality it really isn’t. It could be applied sure but it definitely was not intended to be. Valid frustration tho i understand the annoyance with that. either way tho there’s no problem with liking there songs pre-trench they have many styles so it’s not wrong to like some of there older stuff over others we each have our preferences:)


eiconik

Exactly. That was obnoxious to me. Like the man is clearly writing about a heavy subject and people are like THE LORE. I guess I just miss appreciating their music in a more simple way and hearing their deep thoughts on tough topics. The story thing was great, I was right there with everyone with the clues and the websites and stuff before Trench, I'm just kinda past that now and want some good ol' twenty one pilots music.


Alacrout

I agree with you in theory, but my understanding is Blurryface was heavily lore-driven and folks like you and I just didn’t know yet.


Lil_Monk_E

Ehhhhh. I was a casual listener for a long time, and listened to all of trench and SAI without thinking there was lore. A lot of their pre trench songs have lyrics that allude to A lore (Doubt, Trapdoor). The only correlating lyrics noticed were the words jumpsuit and Nico. All of there songs are lore, some more than others but the line is blurred.


Western_Two_2220

Blurryface was also lore driven…like…it’s literally in the title…I get what you mean though, some of them aren’t easy to listen to simply as music rather than a story, I hated SAI when it first came out 😅


realKingCarrot_v2

For certain songs, the Christian interpretation really does just fit too perfectly for it to be a coincidence. That doesn't mean your other interpretations aren't just as valid, because there's a reason they never explicitly make it about Jesus, but your kneejerk reaction of telling a Christian fan that their interpretation isn't the only valid one when they never implied it was low-key feels like gatekeeping.


chibi-mage

YES. tyler and josh are both christian and even though they’re relatively vague about religion in their songwriting it’s something tyler has openly struggled with. for me, personally, their more “religious” songs have really helped me through dealing with my religious doubt (no pun intended ((no PHUN INTENDED?? sorry)) lol) and i feel i can really relate to the music in that way.


R0salinaxx_728

as an atheist i didn't even notice a lot of the songs were about god until i did some research and i was like oh that makes sense lmao


realKingCarrot_v2

It's kind of like an illusion sculpture. If you look at it from the right angle, it all comes together perfectly, but there's a reason that they didn't just put it all together for you and left it open to be seen from many angles.


PlasmidEve

I don't care about the lore. 


Disastrous_Lemon_219

Valid and based


chubonabox

I don’t really care about it but I do think it’s cool that there’s a fun story intertwined with some songs


Unhappy_Union9639

Agree. I think it’s a cool idea and everything, and I used to be obsessed with it a few years ago (the transition form blurryface to trench) but now I don’t really care lol or pay much attention to it


wercooler

A lot of the TOP Fandom is super cringy, some of yall make me embarrassed to say that they are my favorite band.


scoliroll

no fr every time someone asks me irl what my fav band is and i’m actually honest i feel so embarrassed 😭


KillerK_230

"I wasn't raised in the hood, but i know a thing or two about pain and darkness" is one of the worst lyrics I've ever heard


TheRealDarthMinogue

I'm still amazed no one in their team pointed out the problems with that line ahead of the record getting released.


Alacrout

I love Blurryface and this song and what Tyler means by this, but it’s just objectively bad word choice.


Hiriajuu

that and "gangsters don't cry therefore, therefore i'm mr misty eyed"


thawry88

I feel this is slightly less cringe because it's more like "in my mind I'm a gangster, I gotta be hard, so I can't cry, but I need to so my eyes are misty" while the other one is like "only people who are raised in the hood can feel pain or darkness, but I do too guys I swear" which is maximum cringe lol


QazaQ1991

That and "bless your earholes"


Super_Island

Honestly when I first heard that song I thought he was saying “listen here h*es”


Dumb_Cheese

I love Lane Boy, but I completely agree


Skyless_M00N

I cringe every time I hear that


liddiibug

some guy argued with me about this, but i PERSONALLY did not like trench. i think there's a few bangers, but overall i tend to skip most of the album. i did really love sai though. trench just does not sound cohesive to me lmao. (the guy who argued with me said that it was "fantastic production" and i was like... it can have the best production, but that's a different conversation from what i'm saying😭)


Unknown_SoundZs

Valid take i personally disagree and found the album very cohesive and I also loved sai but valid we each have our own taste:)


liddiibug

omg crazy how that works! we can have different opinions and both be right! (i mean this genuinely as possible btw). i never understand why ppl take someone saying "i'm not the biggest fan of this" as a personal attack 😭 like anathema is my fav 21p song but if someone doesnt like it. damn that's tragic, more anathema for me ig


PurpleWanderer97

SAI is a damn bop. Half of the people who dislike it is solely because it’s “propaganda”.


Dorito_Deww

Nah they don't like it because the album isn't depressing.


PurpleWanderer97

This too!


Astronimia

The lyrics in Sai says otherwise, only real songs without a depressing meaning are mulberry street, Saturday and good day imo, as others talk about sad stuff or say kinda edgy stuff


Dorito_Deww

What I mean by this is not the lyrics, but how the songs sound :)


WorldlinessSmooth198

Nick Thomas and Chris Salih deserve more credit for what they did with the band


Acceptable-Plane7213

Polarize is the best song on Blurryface


LoganWhiplash

Scaled And Icy was the best era so far for the story


glxssxnimxlz

I love this take so much. SAI isn't my favorite album but the overall concept of it is easily my favorite.


piggybakbak

I don't want to understand the lore. I'm just here to listen and appreciate it the way it is.


sad-mustache

Some lyrics are cringe


Sharktocrab12

Drown is better than fall away, which has the same verse in it. I’m not sorry about it I will not apologize. Fall away is good but drown is so much better


scoliroll

i really am sorry to say it but i have never liked ned… i like the CONCEPT of it all, but the cgi is so cringe, and i hate that they started making legit lore with a completely made up animated character


marchviolet

The Joshler stuff is gross. They are real people, not fictional characters you can ship with each other. And tbh it annoys me that Tyler (moreso than Josh) jokingly leans into it for the fans sometimes.


sideXsway

Scaled and icy is actually kinda fire for a good few songs


Economy_Education_14

People who justify being a “true fan” or not by saying you have to had listened to Taco Bell annoy me. It’s not even twenty one pilots 🧍🏽‍♀️


Unknown_SoundZs

Bars!! Also people who joined the clique through sai are valid fans too


BicycleIndividual353

You don't need to be obsessed especially over their personal lives. It really is possible to just enjoy the music and support them without having to know everything about everything all of the time.


BicycleIndividual353

Wowza someone got Reddit cares sent to me because of this comment.......


FathomRaven

I like music it's cool


k4stour

The "hiatus" was *not* a hiatus, it was a regular off-season between albums and it's only commonly referred to as such because some dimwit used the wrong word and it caught on, likely because it sounds more dramatic and people wanted a special word to refer to that period of time. Yes, depending on where you pull a definition from, it can fit, but the word has a certain connotation in the music industry; that being that a hiatus is a break or off-season that is more uncertain than a regular period between albums, but less absolute than a breakup. A hiatus typically brings with it concern of whether or not another album, tour, etc. will ever happen again and fear of it eventually progressing into a bona fide break up, two things that were never a factor in between Blurryface and Trench. Examples include Eminem (2005-2009), Say Anything (2018-2022), and Weezer (1997-2000), three genuine hiatuses with three very different causes. Yeah I know it's petty lmao, but as someone who was suffered through some of my favourite artists going through real hiatuses, worried that their careers were over for years with little to no communication from them, it annoys me to no end to see people refer to a fairly un-noteworthy off-season as a hiatus. If you want my less spicy unpopular top opinion: I love Saturday.


ilovejor0827

Trench is superior


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Charlezard18

That's just objectively true


Super_Tiger_2407

Yes but also people will deny it to high heaven (pun intended) because they don’t want to admit they like Christian inspired music


ihatemirrormazes

Blurryface has the most skippable songs


CombustiblSquid

This hurts my soul.


SmellLikeAHotDog

I skip the songs on Vessel most of the time because Tyler’s voice is less developed and it annoys me.


maybein_anotherlife_

i skip some of his very early productions because it makes me feel like im listening to a different artist's voice. but i also like how he gradually got better along the way and i could tell the difference as i kept listening to his songs though i may/may not like them. and now i really really love their productions


MessageOk9068

I'll be glad when the lore story is over and they write actual songs again


agentgameing

"Kitchen sink" is one of their best songs and it needs a remaster on a later project. Also "RAB - Ode to sleep" is better than Vessels 🤷‍♂️


Badtyuo

I’m gonna go listen to the rab version for the first time in ten years so I can decide if I think you’re wrong (will update) cool opinion tho


Dapper_Wallaby_1318

There was nothing wrong with Tyler’s platform shoes post


glesgayeehaw

I agree. Time and time again this debate comes up and I always say artists are not obligated to speak on these things and they have notoriously stayed away from speaking about political issues (correct me if I’m wrong—I haven’t religiously followed them in almost 10 years). I remember when they got dogpiled in 2015 when they didn’t openly celebrate LGBT marriage being legalised. In all honestly people saying “use your platform!” always comes off as performative activism. If you are getting your world news from a celebrity you need to be more socially aware. Also, who didn’t hear about the protests? It was everywhere.


dollpartsbyhole

Same. It was funny.


DizzyJHippy

It was actually funny Maybe not the best timing tho even if I didn’t have a problem with it


slowtown01

THANK YOU nobody knows sarcasm and automatically assumed Tyler is racist


R0salinaxx_728

honestly i feel like it was mostly people who didn't know much about top who got mad


Goshhawk99

SAI is too much like generic pop music for me. Few good songs but nothing “next level” or particularly unique


Z0MB13S

TOP cover of Cancer, is not better than the original.


RLTVentures

And I have another one. Some fans think they are better fans than other fans and that makes fans think “wth?” No one fan is better or bigger than another fan. Added: it really doesn’t matter in the large scheme of things. The majority really doesn’t give a fuck


Unknown_SoundZs

THIS!!! Twitter fanbase would have a heart attack reading this comment💀


kayleebrink4

The new “here we fucking go” chant during trees is absolutely awful and needs to be stopped


zakmetpotgrond

Rab is not an album. It is a compilation of demo songs


geanabelcherperkins

Vessel is the best.


Beginning-Resist-935

Heathens is a skip


artaeya

fr i can’t listen to that song anymore 😭 but the mv’s sick


ilovejor0827

1. Trench 2. Vessel 3. SAI 4. ST 5. Blurryface 6. RAB


DizzyJHippy

Hate to say it because they come from a place of love but some of their worst songs are about family members. House of Gold is my least favorite and I can’t get over the “My taste in music is your face” line in Tear in my Heart


Dumb_Cheese

I wish I didn't agree, but I do. Although it might be because I had to hear them *constantly* either when my brother sang HoG at a talent show, or because my sisters would listen to TimH when playing Roblox


DizzyJHippy

Tear in my heart during Roblox 😂


redditprncess

SO REAL . I think HOG gets skipped a lot for me, I GENUINELY don’t like TIMH, smithereens is okay .. I wanna be biased towards it bc I love Trench but I really just can’t and (idrk who or what formidable is about) I feel like formidable is also not really my cup of tea (my least listened to song on SAI)


JLAndersonMusic

I mean, I'm known for these two: Trench is my least favorite TØP Album (I love the album but I don't relate to it as much as the others) I hate the studio version of Hometown


Disastrous_Lemon_219

Wait it’s you :D I love your vids man!


Safe-Pressure8358

Not a huge fan of self titled, and I hate how people are saying you have to like it and have listened to every song to be a true fan. The production isn’t awesome and Tyler hadnt found his voice yet. The lyrics are cool but I just can’t bring myself to enjoy it. That, and I cringe a little at how many times Tyler said the word “vibe” in trench and sai 😭😭😭


Azling_

There are 2 Tyler's and 2 Josh's in Canon. One set are residents of dema and the other are characters within the story. Bandito Josh and Burger Flipping Josh are different people, LiveStream Tyler and Clancy Tyler are also two separate folks


Airport_First

In my opinion, SAI is better than Blurryface


Brilliant_Section208

They have some cringy/bad lyrics, but almost every artist does so it's not a terrible thing


Disastrous_Binkus

Sai was a good album


sugrven0m

The lore related music videos are so cringe to me idk why the whole Ned thing veiebdjebe


Spicy_Ninja7

Blurryface is their worst album (it is by no means bad)


Waste-Fee4092

Bounce man is a good song


Chunky-overlord

My man🤜


QuantumQuestion_01

Bounce Man is a great song and I'm tired of pretending it's not.


Unknown_SoundZs

Agreed🤝 although I think many people would agree with that. The first half of blurry is AMAZING and the other half is good but kinda meh it seemed rushed


Dorito_Deww

Scaled and Icy is their best album


Lil_Monk_E

Scaled and Icy is their best album.


loudpisswalls

sai was a great album


fdo2010

I honestly don't like twenty-one pilots fans. They are annoying.


blurryfacepossum

I love SAI xd


OBVWXLF

Be Concerned is the best song on RAB


Puzzleheaded_Loss_36

Fairly Local is terrible I hate the rap part and the whole song feels super dated to me


Unknown_SoundZs

Damn… respect that opinion but as a fairly local fan that hurt 💀


maybein_anotherlife_

same 💀


Croxxig

Trench is okay


GamerOwenIsHere

The best thing about trench is the instrumentals imo so if you only care about lyrics then trench probably isn’t for you


clxzsrz

regional at best isn’t as good as people make it out to be


Stormy_24

True. Self Titled is way better.


BloodKey9813

i guess that its ok to listen to leaks


Party-Ad4441

People that complain about the lore be complaining for no reason. If that’s how they enjoy TOP, by deep diving into the lore, let them be.


WinnerUnable1722

Pet cheetah > everything else


raincloudeyes

I prefer early 2000-2010’s Tyler’s raw vocals to those of the more modern productions


Ilikechairsal0t

Sai is the best album and Christmas saves the year is their best song


Rkirby73

SAI is just as good as the rest of their albums. (Great)


L0redrag0n

Scaled and icy is one of their better albums


Sahlo_Folina71-21P

Nico and the niners slayed.


Agreeable_Scene3673

I like vessel the least 😬


-bBREAKFASTt-

SAI is genuinely one of their best favorite albums. Not the best but it’s up there.


TimelyLand

I don't like Backslide...


Miluion

I have two: I personally don't like Self Titled (except for Taxi Cab that song slaps) and SAI is one of my favourite tøp albums. I don't think that every single song they release needs to be dissected for lore. I think the majority of the songs in Trench, SAI and Clancy (so far) have nothing to do with the lore and I'm fine with that.


Aggravating_Syrup269

scaled and icy is one of their best albums


deadly_carp

Scaled & Icy is good


rat-fashion

The lore is boring now


origamigamer2

I didn't like Trench


bilda_baisgye

Ukulele sucks. Also while trench is an amazing album, the cover looks like a marvel DVD.


Batemanssnare99

Taco Bell saga isn’t funny. Stfu please 🙏🙏🙏🙏


Brilliant-Gas-1657

The Twitter clique makes the rest of the clique look bad