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MysteriousEdge5643

That's tiny compared to some other universities around the country


ArthurArcadia

It could have been bigger if the pro-palestine movement didn't vandalize parts of the campus, ruining students' artwork in the HUB, and degrading independent journalists covering their protests in the past six months. Literally can sum the udub movement altogether in four words: Good cause, terrible execution


bumblfumbl

actually it seems more like it wouldve been bigger if the organizing RSO (PSU) had better ties with other progressive student orgs (or if a different RSO organized it), but they don’t, so the people who organize with those other orgs wont go to PSU functions because of the negative notoriety they have


highspeed_steel

I really wonder whether the drama is deeper than what it seems or is it just that some people are salty that they weren't consulted.


bumblfumbl

i don’t think its the latter only because you can really see all the other orgs hyping each other up or collaborating together, but PSU consistently does stuff on its own. obv i cant say for certain but there does seem to be a pattern where other orgs specifically don’t work with PSU, but I dont know why personally


highspeed_steel

Yea, thats a fair observation. I wonder whats off about PSU.


poop_toilet

They have a particular member who is known for having a huge ego and taking advantage of other leftist orgs for their own demonstrations/clout


highspeed_steel

Oh well I see. Appreciate the info. I'm not surprised.


system3601x

Horrible cause when they bundle Hamas as part of theirt cause. Hamas is pro rape, death, beheading, kidnapping, if anyone cares for Palestinians they should damn well make a very clear distinction against Hamas.


Extreme-Addendum-941

This is such a tired comment.  Horrible cause when they bundle the IDF as part of theirt cause. IDF is pro rape, death, kidnapping, if anyone cares for Israelis they should damn well make a very clear distinction against the IDF and their actions.


system3601x

Huh? When did IDF invaded Gaza and raped people, beheaded babies and burned people alive? You are trying to justify a terror org existence. You are either trying to be a troll or really pro hamas, either way its not helping the Palestinian cause.


Extreme-Addendum-941

Do you want to engage seriously and come to a common understanding of WHY things are the way they are, and what we can do to move forward? Or do you just want to call everyone a pro-hamas terrorist?  But to answer your question:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre Read up. The stories of babies in ovens didn't originate on October 7th.  By pure numbers alone getting into a tit for tat comparison of Israeli atrocities v palistinian atrocities to justify more atrocities is ridiculous....and Israel still comes out on top.  You should look into how the Troubles were resolved. truth and reconciliation is required. That includes attunement for Hamas has done, as well as what Israel has done.


OG_G33k

Most of the subsidized and "Fee Speech" movements carry that level of disrespect and aggression aimed at attacking the overall Right to "Peaceably Assemble..." When money is involved motives almost always get corrupted..


West-Calm-Beach

Not a good cause lmao


Timofseattle

How about: evil cause, typical poor execution.


zestyowl

>vandalize parts of the campus, ruining students' artwork in the HUB... Did they ever figure out who was behind that? Because if not, it's just as likely to have been done for the purpose of making the group look bad.


ArthurArcadia

It was last month, the HUB was taken over by a group affiliated with SUPER UW, which is a Pro-Palestine group on campus. They took over the HUB building overnight, as they were the only ones inside between Thursday night until Friday morning. When they left, the first floor of the HUB was completely vandalized with some students' artwork graffiti'ed as well. The group never made an official response or apology to the damages or the ruined artworks, but the coincidences, the timing, the place, their MOs for the past few months all lined up. If the group wasn't responsible for the ruined artworks, the most common sense thing is to write an apology statement over the damages, but it has been a month, and at this point, they will never do it.


Financial-Sun7266

Why do people not realize that most people who protest things are just bored when the weather turns nice and want to do something that other people says makes them a good person and they can upload on instagram ?


Falanax

These protests are just privileged kids larping as revolutionaries. Just look at the Columbia kids wanting catering lmao


Lilhoneylilibee

This is so spot on lmao


AlexandrianVagabond

The spokesperson for the Columbia protest supported Trump in 2020 so this whole thing is just weird.


Safe-Actuary5268

Not sure if it’s true but allegedly a bunch of those who were arrested had zero affiliation with the school.


AlexandrianVagabond

From what I've read, at least half weren't students. One dude (who had a gun) looked about 40 in his mugshot.


Safe-Actuary5268

I’m a 45yo student at UW so that’s not really a good example lol


TX_Sized10-4

Shit cause, shit execution. Wild to see so many Americans supportive of an actual terrorist organization.


ADDnwinvestor

Agreed. Downvotes prove this sub is a waste of time.


Husky_Panda_123

One of reason is that there is a little(thank god) influence outside of UW students. Other schools such as UTA release the report after arrests saying that nearly half of the protesters are not students or affiliated with the university.


buddhistfee

It's also tiny compared to the rest of Seattle.


Redditlogicking

Come to UCLA, people are throwing fireworks


Nepalus

I like to think it’s because the local population is more intelligent.


Silversaving

Student housing sure has gone downhill


CanadianRubles

It’s a shame you still have to purchase the meal plan even if you’ve selected the 4 person tent option.


OshawottFangirl

lmao that's pretty good


jonnythewanderer

In the mid 80s there was a shanty town in support of divestiturture in south Africa. I was a freshman.


Due-Addition7245

Honestly it is a better scene than other schools.


_compiled

i'm from ucla, this post got recommended to me. just you wait lol. this is how it started for us too.


Greenshirts1986

May not be a popular opinion but UCLA has some mighty nice weather comparably and even if it angers some I have noticed the protests in Seattle seem to only be good turn outs or scheduled and conducted on days that are nicer.


crackrockutah

There’s truth to the good weather: During the February Revolution of 1917, the weather in Petrograd turned unseasonably warm on February 23, reaching 46°F (8°C). The mild weather lasted for weeks, and on March 8, International Women's Day, the temperature was 23°F (8°C) with bright sunshine. The warm weather encouraged crowds to gather in public spaces, and women went on strike at textile factories and marched to metal works to convince men to join them. The February Revolution began on March 8, 1917 (February 23 on the Julian calendar) when demonstrators took to the streets of Petrograd to demand bread. The revolution overthrew the imperial government and placed the Bolsheviks in power.


felpudo

I hope you didn't just make all this up


crackrockutah

I wish I were that creative.


SomeAreMoreEqualOk

Nah, i doubt it. Here, I'll im willing to be banned if im wrong. They don't have the balls !banbet


highspeed_steel

There's also apparently this weird dynamics between PSU, the organizers of this encampment, and the more well known Palestinian group, SUPER and a few of their minorities ally group. Word is that these group weren't consulted about the encampment, but I wanna suspect the drama goes deeper. If its truly that shallow, they probably deserve the somewhat misleading, but in some ways accurate joke headlines to the effect of encampment delayed due to being too white. Its just a funny situation overall that doesn't add much credibility to these folks at all.


tirednotsad

I’m pretty confused by the “too white” thing bc when I went there all the PSU members were brown


SourceCreator

Charlie Kirk has an appearance there or somewhere near later this month.. things are going to get real crazy soon.


AnEpicThrowawayyyy

What’s happening now?


Eric848448

Definitely. I hope admin is smart enough to ignore it unless it actually gets out of hand.


OutOfTheForLoop

Current students: No matter your views on the Middle East debacle or the on-campus protests, stay safe and stay respectful to each other. Love y’all guys. Go Dawgs!


willmok

Glad they didn't leave any trash.


Worldly_Tip4982

Lol one of the few drug free encampments in Seattle


willmok

Please don't jinx it.


Greenshirts1986

Lol


CantCMe88

I think the main reason why it isn’t bigger is there isn’t a big middle eastern population here. Nothing compared to a lot of the east coast cities such as NYC. I’m all for a good protest, but I can’t stand protests where it’s a bunch of white people trying to take it over. We all saw the BLM movement in Seattle where a bunch of white kids tried to set up CHAZ or whatever it was called.


dpr10292

THANK YOU for speaking the truth. I’m alright with people wanting to protest, but it’s hard to listen to a bunch of Americans (myself included) voice their opinion on what’s going on


circlehead28

So all the homeless have to do is say they’re protesting and they can just chill on UWs campus?


cowsthateatchurros

New homeless meta dropped


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I’ve been telling every homeless person on the ave there is currently free housing in the quad, and it’s a free camping zone, make sure to spread the word


AnEpicThrowawayyyy

Lmao, based


PresidenteMargz10

That’s what they did with CHOP/CHAZ 🤷🏽‍♂️


ItsJustToasty

Good! We have a right to protest.


brasdontfit1234

It’s incredibly sad that you are getting downvoted, even if you are challenging the rules young people should be defiant, they are the agent of change. It sucks that many young people are so compliant and obedient to authority.


ItsJustToasty

Exactly. We have a right to protest even if others don’t like it.


noahboah

Reddit as a platform is centered by the type of person housing the exact suite of demographics that is most comfortable with the status quo. Worse yet, the type of person that is intelligent enough to understand progressive ideals and absorb the essence of them for optics and self-satisfaction, rather than to actually do good for the people around them. A lot of these mfers would have opposed the civil rights movement yet have convinced themselves they are champions of virtue.


Financial-Sun7266

You assume doing something that “good” will always result in positive outcomes for the world at large. What about the Arab spring? That worked out so well…..


noahboah

what's your favorite place to eat on the ave?


Moetown84

Got ‘em!


Scyph

This is true, but you don't have a right to camp, unfortunately. This group could be doing exactly what they have been doing with all the chants and stuff, minus the tents, and be completely protected by the law. Unfortunately, because they are choosing to camp they are exposing themselves to legal risk. This is sort of the point of civil disobedience of course, but it's really important that students know what they are getting themselves into.


ATTDocomo

Well, there have been a lot of protests without encampments that have been shut down violently by the police at other schools across the country.


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The one in UT Austin


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Illustrious-Rice-102

It’s a peaceful way to protest that gets attention. Protests aren’t supposed to be convenient, I don’t understand what’s wrong with this. Forever law enforcement have been used to justify breaking up protests regardless of any real laws being broken. Placing arbitrary limits on how long you are allowed to protest is just a way to decrease the effectiveness of a protest. If you support freedom and democracy you should support people right to protest and be seen. They could be protesting anything and I would still support their right to be seen and heard.


MuffinsandCoffee2024

It's illegal to go camping on UW property


tbaytdot123

Yes, but I suspect that many protests that led to actual change (womans rights, gay rights, protests against segragation, etc.) were breaking some minor laws like this.


ThisUsernameIsTook

Someone never read Thoreau in high school. If you are still in high school, you should give it a go.


RulerofReddit

Who gives a fuck you bootlicker


SourceCreator

I was just thinking with the current laws, once they've been there for over 24 hours, they have squatter rights and they've LEGALLY established residency. Too bad Udub lol.


SomeAreMoreEqualOk

Everyone has the right to protest; you don't have the right to infringe on others' rights, be it other students' or university's rights.


ItsJustToasty

Last I checked there’s no right to education, it’s a privilege.


SomeAreMoreEqualOk

I will repeat again since you didn't understand: Everyone has the right to protest; you don't have the right to infringe on others' rights. Also, it doesn't really seem like you support the 1st amendment, based on another comment of yours. You're not ok with opinions that you disagree with being voiced that affect the laws. >Exactly, I’ve got no problem if your opinion is that pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza but like I said if it affects others, it’s a problem


brutalistsnowflake

You are 100% correct.


KileyCW

Yes you sure do. Let the world know they hold terrorist slogan signs while fellow Americans are held captive by the same group. Protest all you want, but be upfront about what it's for...


Worldly_Tip4982

we also need more people who can agree to disagree instead of being stubborn idiots who can’t respect another persons opinions


Worldly_Tip4982

I mean people who get physically violent when someone doesn’t agree with them or starts a tantrum


ItsJustToasty

As long as your opinion doesn’t change laws or affect others, I’ve got no problems


Worldly_Tip4982

Lmao isn’t that the point of a protest tho 9/10 times its about something that affects others


ItsJustToasty

Exactly, I’ve got no problem if your opinion is that pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza but like I said if it affects others, it’s a problem


SMG_Mister_G

That’s liberal bullshit. I’m not going to agree to disagree with someone who thinks settler colonialism is ok and that brown people don’t have the same rights to self determination that white Europeans declared they have. That’s like saying you would hug a Nazi instead of beating the shit out of them


Worldly_Tip4982

lol I’d never support someone tryna take my rights away but I’m talking other issues


Substantive420

You’re popping off in the comments in here. Doing the lords work


Severe-Fennel-202

You 100% have the right to protest. But where was this encampment a year ago protesting how Palestinian leadership and Hamas brutalize non-muslims, gays, transgenders, and give limited rights for women?


Serious-Cap-8190

The US government doesnt give Hamas tens of billions of dollars in advanced weapons systems


slickweasel333

No, but Iran sure is helping them, along with other terrorist groups, literally shooting missing missiles at Israel and terrorizing international shipping lanes in the name of the "ceasefire now" cause.


TheDarkWave2747

It takes alot of balls to protest for the human rights of people who might not support or do the same thing for you, dont you think?


kiwifier

40,000 people killed is much worse than a conservative government. Conservative leadership can be fixed and can be changed. Fifteen thousand dead children are gone.


ItsJustToasty

Not to mention Israel’s Apartheid also being conservative and brutalizing


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Severe-Fennel-202

You do realize that Hamas rejected a ceasefire proposal. Right?


WhereIsTheTenderness

The Israeli proposal. And Israel has rejected Hamas ceasefire proposals.


bananas19906

What a bad faith comparison does uw need to divest from thier investments into hamas? Cause the encampent is about divesting from Boeing. If uw does invest in hamas that would be a bad thing too yes


ItsJustToasty

Protesting America brutalizing non whites, gays, transgenders and giving limited rights for women all while protesting the continued oppression of the Palestinian people under Israel’s Apartheid regime.


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

if they actually hurt anyone let me know.  seems like they're just chillin


peaceful-papaya

Anti genocide protesters. Love to see it


Idk-a-user

Hamas wanted to commit genocide but failed to


GomerMD

They actually have a sign that is “pro-genocide”


korokcrossingg

how is it a genocide though?


Birthday_Tux

A lot of houses, hospitals, and other infrastructure have been destroyed. Sure, the IDF hasn't killed that many non-combatant civilians, but what are they supposed to go back to when this is over?


korokcrossingg

I agree that what is happening is horrifying, but calling it a genocide is misunderstanding the term. This is war, not genocide, they're different. Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race," which is not what Israel is doing. Israel's government is out of control I agree, but there needs to be some rational thought here. I think this issue has gotten way too polarized, you're either "for genocide" or against it, which are false equivalencies. I do not support what Netanyahu is doing, but it is not genocide, it's war.


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korokcrossingg

that is exactly the problem, genocide and apartheid are not words we should be throwing around, people don’t even seem to realize the reality of what they mean and what’s going on in gaza and israel


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korokcrossingg

glad we can agree! I hope for peace between Israel and Palestine and the safe return of the hostages.


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korokcrossingg

...it's their ancestral homeland??? they didn't just pick it


AdventurouslyAngry

What River and what sea?


camo_tnt

The fact it's so small compared to other schools, especially considering the population of UW, is so funny to me. Seattle Freeze is so real that people can't even coordinate a large protest lol


nickcavesghost

Free Palestine!


AnEpicThrowawayyyy

Pree Falestine!


pjoshyb

Nice genocidal banner they’ve got there…


DoLittlest

Well that oughtta put an end to the whole thing.


Careful_Helicopter85

I want to go camping!


CheapPush9551

How to do absolutely nothing lol


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I genuinely have to try not to laugh or even show a smirk when I walk by it’s that sad


fellatio_di_grigio

Lol such sheep. All these haoles started doin these encampments only after one university did it and went viral. If these dummies really cared so much why did it take them this long to start camping? Last time i checked the whole israel-palestine shit happened in October, over half a year ago. But no let’s only do it after everyone else does it. Also no this is not even remotely similar to mlk’s sit ins or the hippies draft dodging. Those were protests where they actually took action against what they were protesting, like doing sit ins at restaurants discriminating, or literally refusing the draft to the war which obviously impacted the war. Setting up tents at a college campus is not effecting israel/palestine whatsoever. It’s virtue signaling.


StableBeer

Maybe it’s because the original protesting students got arrested for peaceful protest???


fellatio_di_grigio

Again, the peaceful protests that they only started doing when they saw others do it and became a trend on social media 😂


hamsterpunch

🚩


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Stupid fackin’ Haoles brah


jugum212

If students want to demonstrate and speak here -that’s what the space is for. But when I went there, I saw people trolling for a fight. They have red meat for the opposition , signs like “queers for Palestine” & “Zionism is a cancer on the world”.


WhereIsTheTenderness

How is “queers for Palestine” trolling?


jugum212

It’s a common thing right wingers cite as absurd


WhereIsTheTenderness

Oh, OK. Just seemed like a descriptor to me but I’m obviously out of the right wing loop, which is fine by me


BananaPeelSlippers

What is udubs involvement in Israel atm? Was shocked to find out Columbia is in the process of building a campus in Tel Aviv. Anything similar here?


ExtraFirmPillow_

Shouldn’t be that surprising considering Palestinians and Israelis live in relative peace with each other in Tel Aviv.


AdScared7949

Udub has strong ties with Boeing, Boeing is building and shipping weapons to help Israel kill children.


BananaPeelSlippers

So the protesters would have udub break its affiliation with Boeing? Interesting.


AdScared7949

Yeah it would cost the university a lot to stop turning babies into mulch but I think the idea is you can look back and say you didn't just do nothing during a genocide funded by your money


Asleep_Function8897

UW will never divest from their largest donor 🤷‍♂️


AdScared7949

Didn't say they would


slickweasel333

How would you suggest UW divest from Google and Microsoft? Both do business with IDF.


AdScared7949

That's really beside the point


slickweasel333

Divesting is literally 1/3 of the whole BDS movement. What did you think it was about?


KileyCW

Nice terrorist slogan on their sign while their fellow Americans remain hostages... they celebrate their captors. Wonderful people.


everydaystuff42069

WA state, we love to hate protestors. BLM? Run them over with police cars and create a "Blue Life culture" to beat down Black culture awareness. Claim pro-palestine and pro life supporters as evil people and create false news stories about them as baby killers and anti-semitists. The US hate is so strong that anyone wanting to bring awareness of human suffering is "annoying" because they aren't following the "law" put in place by people that lose money off of peace and equality (OUR country make money off of weapons, war, and indifference) 💯🙌💞 Bad protestors are just cogs in the machine, a person of a free mind understands the difference between an extremist and a realist (not claiming these protestors are one way or another, I don't know their works) *there is heavy anti-semitism in the USA, but they are not reporting on the real stories of it because it is anti-semitism created within THIS country and can't be blamed on the Middle East, which has been our social outrage scapegoat since at least the 80's 😮‍💨


ThePokemonAbsol

Oh nice displaying a message of genocide as the one of the first things you see… guess that they are full masks off now, huh?


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Queers for Palestine


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Recon_nc

God you might be the dumbest person ever. Any queer person would be killed on sight in Gaza or any Arabic country.


Low_Bird_Flow_Turd

Paint the curb red


SoggyMinimum8386

The one at my school (about the same size) has started packing up. 1 of the school buildings was vandalized yesterday, but It's cleaned up now.


Longjumping_Risk6768

Is it me or is the quality insane


spankiemcfeasley

Send in the goddamn riot police obviously this is anti-semitic


system3601x

Are they attempting to block students from moving about in the campus like in NY? Or they just sit there being pro hamas and thats it?


Next-Jicama5611

Gross and unfair to other students that are here to learn.


i-FF0000dit

Does UW actually have any Israel connections?


pjoshyb

lol they’re still larping?


Bak17

How much is the rent?


LongjumpingEducator6

What are the paper plates for?


Quietrover

As a wise man once told me, “sometimes getting involved interrupts the balance.” Be super careful what you wish for. The two greatest tragedies in life are not getting what you want, and getting what you want.


Hazaelia

ok


Ok-Education2476

I bet most of them don’t even know where Palestine is. I asked two pro Palestine people I know and neither of them could point it out on a map.


2nd2nunn

Looks like Chaz losers


Wizardnil

Combined IQ of 0


ArmaniMania

just play loud music super early am, theyll get annoyed and leav


heresaddie

they? 🤦🏻‍♀️


LoveWoke

Palestinians are great whiners. College kids are great whiners. Trump is a great whiner. Dark Brandon laughs at whiners.


ComprehensiveGas6075

Lock them all up. The irony of the left calling conservatives nazis then to turn around and be completely antisemetic is hilarious.