the self-service key machine costs more per key AND does not cut them correctly lol.. Plus saves in staffing costs they are 1000% all going that way.
Self service everything that is going to be Walmarts new name.
Self-serve Mart, just as soon as you put up the sign for them... ;)
I know, just wait till the figure out how to automate the self checkouts so it's able to confirm your paying for all the items and then allows you to leave ( prevent theft )
Then we are screwed. Usually 4-6 associates at my store watching for theft/ help self checkout
Technology shouldn't be that difficult. cameras viewing the belt from all angles to identify each product and counting. While it matches the receipt count. Plus weight sensors that can add up each item's weight and match it with the weight of the items listed on the receipt.
Designs of the self-checkout likely will be more like cattle doors that only permit exit upon verification of the completed purchase.
Plus adding 1-2 staff to a hidden room like AP to give the customers the impression they are being watched at all times but not knowing and not able to confirm said staffing would be another anti-theft measure. Then eventually decrease such staffing as compliance holds steady.
Yea, not far off into the future. Look to new stores and remodel stores to have a more cattle herding like self-checkout and then watch them decrease staffing as well.
yea, and it's not like they don't already have each item ALREADY weight given they ship they likely track each weight just as they do with tracking the cost they pay to purchase each item at wholesale cost.
It's just a matter or organizing and laying it all together.
True but the cost of tags is a factor that is not as efficient usage of money at a store that sells pallets of soups a week for a about a buck a piece vs a handful of tv's a week.
Although I have noticed a trend of them downsizing single items. For example the yogurt used to have so many more single cup yogurt but now they are pushing more and more of the multipacks and cutting down on the single cup yogurts.
If that trend continues then RFID tags would be a much better likelihood. On top of them saving on stocking costs.
>True but the cost of tags is a factor [...] saving on stocking costs.
All of softlines is already on RFID and a good chunk of hardlines is already there. As you indicated, in addition to saving on the cost of cashiers, the efficiency in inventory/stocking by use of RFID tags would be insane. Imagine having antennas through your backroom and salesfloor that update the inventory instantly. Have an out on the shelf? Well, RFID locates a case that's in the backroom that was accidently binned in the wrong bins - or a case that fell behind all the other cases. Imagine warehouses using RFID to accurately determine what did and didn't get loaded onto the truck. AP using RFID to identify shoplifters and internal theft with a few clicks of a mouse. An application that combines catching RFIDs going through the door that hasn't been scanned at the register with the cameras, similar to how OptikAI works now, except we can 'see' the Hart tools you have under your coat and the Pokémon cards shoved down your pants. Heck, if they could make it work, combine this tech with the ability to read any RFID tags - credit/debit cards, old tags in your clothing, etc... Store gets hit with a quick cash scam? Pull the scanners up whenever the scammers went through the gates. Now, set up an alert in the system for whenever any RFID tags from the first store are detected at another store.
RFID will solve this in no time.
Once everything had an RFID tag you wont need self checkouts at all... You'll scan a card or whatever to announce who you are to the system and then you'll run your bags under a RFID scanner and bingo bango, it'll charge your card on file.
FYI.. Cash is going away as well... at some point anyhow.
then the thieves will just remove the tag from some items and it wont be recorded i think the only way to have zero shrink would be rows and rows of vending machines where you pay as you go
Check the new batteries in Auto, you cant tell where the RFID tag is. Its NOT the UPC. There will always be ways around it, I cant dispute it, but in all honesty they can hide that shit pretty good.
Isn't that how the employee-less Amazon stores work? I've never been in one, only heard of them. No registers, it just knows what you pick up and you pay with your phone.
its in automotive but its obsolete since all new cars now have transponder keys most sales were the impulse buy decorative housekeys like a sporting team or r2d2
First, not all cars have rfid transponders... secondly, there are 100 years of older cars that do still use keys..
Third, we sold lots and lots of house keys.
Keys as we know it are on the way out for sure, but they will still be needed for many many years to come.
Ours did. I asked why because I would make keys for people on a regular basis.
The manager said that the company didn't want to "pay people" to make keys and they could use the automated kiosk by customer service.
How accurate that statement is I do not know, because why would the company worry about paying an associate to perform a service for a customer.
Also, the kiosk only makes house keys and not the large variety of keys you could make with the key machine.
someone asked me just the other day where to get keys duplicated, i said automotive counter, or at the grocery entrance by the vending machines. he told me the automotive associate said they don't even have a machine anymore. i never go back there, so i didn't have a clue they got rid of it.
This is a mistake. The self service machines suck, and they don't accept some keys. Not that making keys makes up any sizable amount if walmart's sales, but it's just one more dumb change they've made.
Just the other night told a lady to head back to sporting goods/hardware for a key and my coach stopped me "where you been that's been gone fir months." I feel so lost up front lol.
Most stores are going to the self serve kiosks I believe.
the self-service key machine costs more per key AND does not cut them correctly lol.. Plus saves in staffing costs they are 1000% all going that way. Self service everything that is going to be Walmarts new name. Self-serve Mart, just as soon as you put up the sign for them... ;)
I know, just wait till the figure out how to automate the self checkouts so it's able to confirm your paying for all the items and then allows you to leave ( prevent theft ) Then we are screwed. Usually 4-6 associates at my store watching for theft/ help self checkout
Technology shouldn't be that difficult. cameras viewing the belt from all angles to identify each product and counting. While it matches the receipt count. Plus weight sensors that can add up each item's weight and match it with the weight of the items listed on the receipt. Designs of the self-checkout likely will be more like cattle doors that only permit exit upon verification of the completed purchase. Plus adding 1-2 staff to a hidden room like AP to give the customers the impression they are being watched at all times but not knowing and not able to confirm said staffing would be another anti-theft measure. Then eventually decrease such staffing as compliance holds steady. Yea, not far off into the future. Look to new stores and remodel stores to have a more cattle herding like self-checkout and then watch them decrease staffing as well.
That's what I was thinking, would be pretty quick and efficient to.
yea, and it's not like they don't already have each item ALREADY weight given they ship they likely track each weight just as they do with tracking the cost they pay to purchase each item at wholesale cost. It's just a matter or organizing and laying it all together.
RFID tags on all the products and you walk your cart through a scanner and get charged.
True but the cost of tags is a factor that is not as efficient usage of money at a store that sells pallets of soups a week for a about a buck a piece vs a handful of tv's a week. Although I have noticed a trend of them downsizing single items. For example the yogurt used to have so many more single cup yogurt but now they are pushing more and more of the multipacks and cutting down on the single cup yogurts. If that trend continues then RFID tags would be a much better likelihood. On top of them saving on stocking costs.
>True but the cost of tags is a factor [...] saving on stocking costs. All of softlines is already on RFID and a good chunk of hardlines is already there. As you indicated, in addition to saving on the cost of cashiers, the efficiency in inventory/stocking by use of RFID tags would be insane. Imagine having antennas through your backroom and salesfloor that update the inventory instantly. Have an out on the shelf? Well, RFID locates a case that's in the backroom that was accidently binned in the wrong bins - or a case that fell behind all the other cases. Imagine warehouses using RFID to accurately determine what did and didn't get loaded onto the truck. AP using RFID to identify shoplifters and internal theft with a few clicks of a mouse. An application that combines catching RFIDs going through the door that hasn't been scanned at the register with the cameras, similar to how OptikAI works now, except we can 'see' the Hart tools you have under your coat and the Pokémon cards shoved down your pants. Heck, if they could make it work, combine this tech with the ability to read any RFID tags - credit/debit cards, old tags in your clothing, etc... Store gets hit with a quick cash scam? Pull the scanners up whenever the scammers went through the gates. Now, set up an alert in the system for whenever any RFID tags from the first store are detected at another store.
RFID will solve this in no time. Once everything had an RFID tag you wont need self checkouts at all... You'll scan a card or whatever to announce who you are to the system and then you'll run your bags under a RFID scanner and bingo bango, it'll charge your card on file. FYI.. Cash is going away as well... at some point anyhow.
then the thieves will just remove the tag from some items and it wont be recorded i think the only way to have zero shrink would be rows and rows of vending machines where you pay as you go
Check the new batteries in Auto, you cant tell where the RFID tag is. Its NOT the UPC. There will always be ways around it, I cant dispute it, but in all honesty they can hide that shit pretty good.
they will probably come up with some kind of transformer hooked to s stun gun and burn it out
Isn't that how the employee-less Amazon stores work? I've never been in one, only heard of them. No registers, it just knows what you pick up and you pay with your phone.
Pretty much. It will come to Walmart as well, in time. Lots of stuff is already rfid tagged.
Amazon uses a mix of that along with AI and a very large amount of cameras to track what you are buying.
More likely to become pioneer woman mart before anything else.
Yes, very inconvenient when it comes to certain keys we need made but probably for the best
The nightmares when we need extra keys cut to replace old worn out ones... I'm getting too old for this shit.
Dumb move but Home Office is known for those. 🙄
Or Walmart.
Home office is walmart my guy
My store never had one, but i don't think they put any of them in NHM stores
Yeah our threw away the machine a couple days ago
its in automotive but its obsolete since all new cars now have transponder keys most sales were the impulse buy decorative housekeys like a sporting team or r2d2
First, not all cars have rfid transponders... secondly, there are 100 years of older cars that do still use keys.. Third, we sold lots and lots of house keys. Keys as we know it are on the way out for sure, but they will still be needed for many many years to come.
I've never seen a walmart that cut keys... wow...
I thought they all did. I always get keys made at walmart. It's usually in auto or sporting goods.
Yes, it's been a few months now since our store got rid of them...
Ours did. I asked why because I would make keys for people on a regular basis. The manager said that the company didn't want to "pay people" to make keys and they could use the automated kiosk by customer service. How accurate that statement is I do not know, because why would the company worry about paying an associate to perform a service for a customer. Also, the kiosk only makes house keys and not the large variety of keys you could make with the key machine.
Mine has a self service one at the entrance so we never had one
Huh you just made me think. I don't know when ours disappeared but it must of been a few years now.
We just got the new machine, came in damaged an have to send it back lol
someone asked me just the other day where to get keys duplicated, i said automotive counter, or at the grocery entrance by the vending machines. he told me the automotive associate said they don't even have a machine anymore. i never go back there, so i didn't have a clue they got rid of it.
My store got rid of ours just last month
This is a mistake. The self service machines suck, and they don't accept some keys. Not that making keys makes up any sizable amount if walmart's sales, but it's just one more dumb change they've made.
Ours went a couple weeks ago.. had about 50 people ask in the last week if we make keys..... NOPE.
Been got rid of that
Just the other night told a lady to head back to sporting goods/hardware for a key and my coach stopped me "where you been that's been gone fir months." I feel so lost up front lol.
It’s a company thing. Saw something on the wire for it
They took ours out last month.